The universe according to MMM

[MultiMillionMiler]

Speaking of DVD sets, when I ordered the voyager set last year, they sent me DS9 by mistake. I immediately requested a switch, felt like suing for getting the worst series instead of the best one. Took another week for the correct set to come.

I hope is not considering suing for having to exchange and it taking another week.  For heaven's sake.  The justice system is a blunt instrument for serious inequities, not for having to wait a week for an entertainment item.

And if you really think Voyager is the best Star Trek series, well, I just feel sorry for you.

In Voyager, except for Janeway, the characters aren't all disgusting, immoral, unempathetic, tantrumy snobs.

[Max Rockatansky]

Speaking of DVD sets, when I ordered the voyager set last year, they sent me DS9 by mistake. I immediately requested a switch, felt like suing for getting the worst series instead of the best one. Took another week for the correct set to come.

Hyperbole or are you actually being serious?

Deep Space 9 was one of the worst science fiction shows ever created. The emotional distress of being trolled like that should be grounds for a lawsuit. How the hell do you get the two mixed up. They're literal opposites!

Okay, I guess that 29k was seriously being earmarked for lawyer's fees then.

[kkt]

Why would I need a lawyer for that? It would be and open and shut case. Even if there technically wasn't law to support my position, I'd probably get jury nullification on this one because it's so obviously outrageous.

You really think that would be a jury trial?  I would have thought small claims, so your filing fees (that you would lose) wouldn't be so high.

And I don't think you understand how jury nullification works.

[Max Rockatansky]

Why would I need a lawyer for that? It would be and open and shut case. Even if there technically wasn't law to support my position, I'd probably get jury nullification on this one because it's so obviously outrageous.

You really think that would be a jury trial?  I would have thought small claims, so your filing fees (that you would lose) wouldn't be so high.

And I don't think you understand how jury nullification works.

For a civil lawsuit/small claim not to be immediately dismissed there would have to be no avenue for correcting the shipping mistake or a refusal to correct.  Given that mistake was remedied (I'm assuming free of charge) I guess that I'm not understanding what the problem actually even is?

Again I ask, is this hyperbole?  So far it's been pretty hard to tell if MMM is actually serious or really believes things like this.

[jeffandnicole]

Why would I need a lawyer for that? It would be and open and shut case. Even if there technically wasn't law to support my position, I'd probably get jury nullification on this one because it's so obviously outrageous.

You really think that would be a jury trial?  I would have thought small claims, so your filing fees (that you would lose) wouldn't be so high.

And I don't think you understand how jury nullification works.

For a civil lawsuit/small claim not to be immediately dismissed there would have to be no avenue for correcting the shipping mistake or a refusal to correct.  Given that mistake was remedied (I'm assuming free of charge) I guess that I'm not understanding what the problem actually even is?

Again I ask, is this hyperbole?  So far it's been pretty hard to tell if MMM is actually serious or really believes things like this.

There really isn't anything that MMM says that I don't think he's exaggerating one way or another.

[Evan_Th]

In the bonus features for the DS9 DVDs they give close-up pictures of some of them and talk about them.  They were never supposed to be seen clearly on the air, so a lot of them are in jokes.  Names of various show crew who usually don't get their names seen, favorite Hollywood hangouts, etc.

I especially like the long-lasting career of Admiral Gene Roddenberry.

[jeffandnicole]

Why would I need a lawyer for that? It would be and open and shut case. Even if there technically wasn't law to support my position, I'd probably get jury nullification on this one because it's so obviously outrageous.

You really think that would be a jury trial?  I would have thought small claims, so your filing fees (that you would lose) wouldn't be so high.

And I don't think you understand how jury nullification works.

Well in that case, even the judge, as pompous as they usually are, would likely award me some monetary compensation for the extended wait and the extreme emotional disappointment seeing the wrong series on the box after opening the package, after already waiting over a week for it initially. At least I have the satisfaction that the $70 drain on my bank account from buying the series, was compensated by $70 interest I received one month in it. But yes, it was exchanged free of charge.

How much did the filing fee cost ya?

[Max Rockatansky]

For obviously outrageous and appalling cases like this, both filing fees and court surcharges would likely be waived. I mean, it would be pretty cruel to impose extra court costs on someone just trying to get compensated for a horrific injustice such as this. It's easy to not send someone the wrong star trek series. Not only was I not able to finish the series as early as I would like, but there were 5 days that I went to six flags, so I definitely could have used the few extra days had it been sent correctly.

You do know that courts can potentially actually order you to pay a fine for wasting their time?  Considering you dispute was remedied why do you expect a small claims or civil court to hear your case?  You were apparently made whole again by the shipper getting you the correct box set.  What mental and/or physical injuries did you suffer due to getting a DS9 box set?

I have to ask, is this why you broke your 23 day streak that you cited to other day?  I feel as though this is all somehow connected now given the irrational response to getting the wrong DVD set by mistake.

[Max Rockatansky]

Why would I need a lawyer for that? It would be and open and shut case. Even if there technically wasn't law to support my position, I'd probably get jury nullification on this one because it's so obviously outrageous.

You really think that would be a jury trial?  I would have thought small claims, so your filing fees (that you would lose) wouldn't be so high.

And I don't think you understand how jury nullification works.

For a civil lawsuit/small claim not to be immediately dismissed there would have to be no avenue for correcting the shipping mistake or a refusal to correct.  Given that mistake was remedied (I'm assuming free of charge) I guess that I'm not understanding what the problem actually even is?

Again I ask, is this hyperbole?  So far it's been pretty hard to tell if MMM is actually serious or really believes things like this.

There really isn't anything that MMM says that I don't think he's exaggerating one way or another.

Stands to reason.  I don't recall the last time (if ever) someone on forum told us they counted how many days they go between beating their meat. 

[jeffandnicole]

Why would I need a lawyer for that? It would be and open and shut case. Even if there technically wasn't law to support my position, I'd probably get jury nullification on this one because it's so obviously outrageous.

You really think that would be a jury trial?  I would have thought small claims, so your filing fees (that you would lose) wouldn't be so high.

And I don't think you understand how jury nullification works.

For a civil lawsuit/small claim not to be immediately dismissed there would have to be no avenue for correcting the shipping mistake or a refusal to correct.  Given that mistake was remedied (I'm assuming free of charge) I guess that I'm not understanding what the problem actually even is?

Again I ask, is this hyperbole?  So far it's been pretty hard to tell if MMM is actually serious or really believes things like this.

There really isn't anything that MMM says that I don't think he's exaggerating one way or another.

Stands to reason.  I don't recall the last time (if ever) someone on forum told us they counted how many days they go between beating their meat. 

If you gotta count in days, you're not doing it enough.

[Max Rockatansky]

Why would I need a lawyer for that? It would be and open and shut case. Even if there technically wasn't law to support my position, I'd probably get jury nullification on this one because it's so obviously outrageous.

You really think that would be a jury trial?  I would have thought small claims, so your filing fees (that you would lose) wouldn't be so high.

And I don't think you understand how jury nullification works.

For a civil lawsuit/small claim not to be immediately dismissed there would have to be no avenue for correcting the shipping mistake or a refusal to correct.  Given that mistake was remedied (I'm assuming free of charge) I guess that I'm not understanding what the problem actually even is?

Again I ask, is this hyperbole?  So far it's been pretty hard to tell if MMM is actually serious or really believes things like this.

There really isn't anything that MMM says that I don't think he's exaggerating one way or another.

Stands to reason.  I don't recall the last time (if ever) someone on forum told us they counted how many days they go between beating their meat. 

If you gotta count in days, you're not doing it enough.

Apparently the opposite tact is being taken, a 60 day goal was cited on the last page. 

[Scott5114]

Speaking of DVD sets, when I ordered the voyager set last year, they sent me DS9 by mistake. I immediately requested a switch, felt like suing for getting the worst series instead of the best one. Took another week for the correct set to come.

I hope is not considering suing for having to exchange and it taking another week.  For heaven's sake.  The justice system is a blunt instrument for serious inequities, not for having to wait a week for an entertainment item.

And if you really think Voyager is the best Star Trek series, well, I just feel sorry for you.

In Voyager, except for Janeway, the characters aren't all disgusting, immoral, unempathetic, tantrumy snobs.

You just described Tom Paris...

[MultiMillionMiler]

For obviously outrageous and appalling cases like this, both filing fees and court surcharges would likely be waived. I mean, it would be pretty cruel to impose extra court costs on someone just trying to get compensated for a horrific injustice such as this. It's easy to not send someone the wrong star trek series. Not only was I not able to finish the series as early as I would like, but there were 5 days that I went to six flags, so I definitely could have used the few extra days had it been sent correctly.

You do know that courts can potentially actually order you to pay a fine for wasting their time?  Considering you dispute was remedied why do you expect a small claims or civil court to hear your case?  You were apparently made whole again by the shipper getting you the correct box set.  What mental and/or physical injuries did you suffer due to getting a DS9 box set?

I have to ask, is this why you broke your 23 day streak that you cited to other day?  I feel as though this is all somehow connected now given the irrational response to getting the wrong DVD set by mistake.

No, the 23 day streak was ruined by star treks excessive sexuality in it. Back during the Voyager shipping ordeal, I was only going about a week in between.

[MultiMillionMiler]

Why would I need a lawyer for that? It would be and open and shut case. Even if there technically wasn't law to support my position, I'd probably get jury nullification on this one because it's so obviously outrageous.

You really think that would be a jury trial?  I would have thought small claims, so your filing fees (that you would lose) wouldn't be so high.

And I don't think you understand how jury nullification works.

For a civil lawsuit/small claim not to be immediately dismissed there would have to be no avenue for correcting the shipping mistake or a refusal to correct.  Given that mistake was remedied (I'm assuming free of charge) I guess that I'm not understanding what the problem actually even is?

Again I ask, is this hyperbole?  So far it's been pretty hard to tell if MMM is actually serious or really believes things like this.

There really isn't anything that MMM says that I don't think he's exaggerating one way or another.

Stands to reason.  I don't recall the last time (if ever) someone on forum told us they counted how many days they go between beating their meat. 

If you gotta count in days, you're not doing it enough.

I have found that refraining from doing it improves my mental health and sleep quality. That's why I try to reduce doing it as much as possible. It took great effort and time to get it down from once every 2-3 days to every 2-3 weeks, but it's worth it for me.

[Scott5114]

He is the most logical and moral person on the show. Everyone else has anger issues, philosophically twisted mindsets, talks too much...etc. Janeway was a flaming hypocrite for throwing him in the Brig for a month in "30 days".

He's a whiny pissbaby and just about the lamest person on the ship (and I'm including Neelix in that). Even Harry Kim is cooler than him.

No, the 23 day streak was ruined by star treks excessive sexuality in it.

Seven of Nine, I presume?

[MultiMillionMiler]

He is the most logical and moral person on the show. Everyone else has anger issues, philosophically twisted mindsets, talks too much...etc. Janeway was a flaming hypocrite for throwing him in the Brig for a month in "30 days".

He's a whiny pissbaby and just about the lamest person on the ship (and I'm including Neelix in that). Even Harry Kim is cooler than him.

No, the 23 day streak was ruined by star treks excessive sexuality in it.

Seven of Nine, I presume?

No, it was a next generation episode.

As for Tom and Neelix, it seems you dislike the characters that have the most humanity and common sense. Not to mention if it weren't for him the entire crew would have been stranded for life on that planet.

[Scott5114]

No, the 23 day streak was ruined by star treks excessive sexuality in it.

Seven of Nine, I presume?

No, it was a next generation episode.

There is no possibility for which episode it was that leaves you looking good here, man.

As for Tom and Neelix, it seems you dislike the characters that have the most humanity and common sense.

I was about to say, I don't think I like anyone at all on Voyager, but then I remembered The Doctor. But even he is sort of a bad copy of Data from TNG.

Not to mention if it weren't for him the entire crew would have been stranded for life on that planet.

Good.

[MultiMillionMiler]

Well it kind of served them right for them refusing to share their technology with anyone. I'm glad they got a taste of their own medicine for those few days. It's too bad the next generation crew never got that sweet karma.

[Max Rockatansky]

I only made it 23 days. And I partly blame star trek for that.

It's Star Trek's fault inasmuch as rape is the victims' fault.  If you can't watch Star Trek without needing sexual release, then the problem is with you, not the show.

Also... now I'm imagining a young guy on Long Island wanking off to mental images of cartoon space explorers.  And it's kind of depressing.

Change your opinion at all now that we know it was the The Next Generation?

[SSOWorld]

He is the most logical and moral person on the show. Everyone else has anger issues, philosophically twisted mindsets, talks too much...etc. Janeway was a flaming hypocrite for throwing him in the Brig for a month in "30 days".

He's a whiny pissbaby and just about the lamest person on the ship (and I'm including Neelix in that). Even Harry Kim is cooler than him.

No, the 23 day streak was ruined by star treks excessive sexuality in it.

Seven of Nine, I presume?

which one?

[kkt]

He is the most logical and moral person on the show. Everyone else has anger issues, philosophically twisted mindsets, talks too much...etc. Janeway was a flaming hypocrite for throwing him in the Brig for a month in "30 days".

He's a whiny pissbaby and just about the lamest person on the ship (and I'm including Neelix in that). Even Harry Kim is cooler than him.

No, the 23 day streak was ruined by star treks excessive sexuality in it.

Seven of Nine, I presume?

which one?

Is that supposed to be a weapon she's holding on the right?  I lost interest in Voyager about season 3.  But if it's something that's supposed to be aimed before it's fired, it looks very poorly designed.  If you want all the weight of such a large device, might as well put it on a tripod for really stable aim.

[MultiMillionMiler]

To be honest she looks better on the left.

[SSOWorld]

He is the most logical and moral person on the show. Everyone else has anger issues, philosophically twisted mindsets, talks too much...etc. Janeway was a flaming hypocrite for throwing him in the Brig for a month in "30 days".

He's a whiny pissbaby and just about the lamest person on the ship (and I'm including Neelix in that). Even Harry Kim is cooler than him.

No, the 23 day streak was ruined by star treks excessive sexuality in it.

Seven of Nine, I presume?

which one?

Is that supposed to be a weapon she's holding on the right?  I lost interest in Voyager about season 3.  But if it's something that's supposed to be aimed before it's fired, it looks very poorly designed.  If you want all the weight of such a large device, might as well put it on a tripod for really stable aim.

left: seven in Voyager (Ice Queen); Left: Seven in Picard defrosted and a vigilante defending ex-borgs against Romulans.

[TheHighwayMan3561]

To be honest she looks better on the left.

Probably because actress Jeri Ryan was 25 years younger then? You'll probably look better now than in 2048.

[MultiMillionMiler]

They used the same actress 25 years later? I thought the very last season they were 23 years in the future just in the show, not in real life! Or was the picture on the right not taken during the filming of the show? Voyager was written over 7 years.