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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #750 on: March 24, 2016, 09:53:27 PM »

I remember having to go through Newton and  Conover to  get from one segment of I-40 to the next; my father's family lived in Knoxville, and we lived in Greensboro so we drove what is now US 70 through the area until 1977.
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #751 on: March 24, 2016, 10:17:09 PM »

Supposedly North Carolina is to begin zero-tolerance speed limit enforcement. "Obey the sign or pay the fine."

I have my doubts as to whether that'll actually happen. But since I saw the article, I figured I'd pass it on.
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #752 on: March 24, 2016, 10:23:44 PM »

Supposedly North Carolina is to begin zero-tolerance speed limit enforcement. "Obey the sign or pay the fine."

I have my doubts as to whether that'll actually happen. But since I saw the article, I figured I'd pass it on.

I think this is only for the upcoming Easter weekend and a few days after that. I really doubt they're going to ticket people for going 1 MPH over; there aren't enough officers on the payroll to do that, and the tickets would be dismissed in court when the judges see lines circling the building 10 times over.
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #753 on: March 24, 2016, 11:20:06 PM »

Supposedly North Carolina is to begin zero-tolerance speed limit enforcement. "Obey the sign or pay the fine."

I have my doubts as to whether that'll actually happen. But since I saw the article, I figured I'd pass it on.

I think this is only for the upcoming Easter weekend and a few days after that. I really doubt they're going to ticket people for going 1 MPH over; there aren't enough officers on the payroll to do that, and the tickets would be dismissed in court when the judges see lines circling the building 10 times over.

Agreed.  It's a holiday weekend and the Highway Patrol will already have more troopers for it.  This will last the week or so and then back to normal. 
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #754 on: March 25, 2016, 11:28:53 AM »

So are they unveiling the number too, or just the sign? :biggrin:
The signs will simply say "Future Interstate Corridor." I don't think there will be a shield, blank or otherwise, but I'll be interested to see. No word on what number will be requested.
Any number between 42 and 62 would still do, though I'd expect it to be in the 40s, mainly because it would start at or near I-40.
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #755 on: March 25, 2016, 09:03:32 PM »

Supposedly North Carolina is to begin zero-tolerance speed limit enforcement. "Obey the sign or pay the fine."

I have my doubts as to whether that'll actually happen. But since I saw the article, I figured I'd pass it on.

I could repost by southeast roads post.  It's not the case.
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #756 on: March 30, 2016, 01:04:45 PM »

"Future Interstate" signs unveiled on the US 70 not-yet-open Goldsboro Bypass:
http://wnct.com/2016/03/30/sign-for-future-u-s-70-interstate-to-be-unveiled-in-goldsboro/

The signs say "Future Interstate" at the top and have a large blank green space where a shield can be placed after a number for the future interstate becomes known.
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #757 on: March 30, 2016, 04:01:33 PM »

What will the Interstate designation be? Keep us posted.
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #758 on: March 30, 2016, 08:31:31 PM »

"Future Interstate" signs unveiled on the US 70 not-yet-open Goldsboro Bypass:
http://wnct.com/2016/03/30/sign-for-future-u-s-70-interstate-to-be-unveiled-in-goldsboro/

The signs say "Future Interstate" at the top and have a large blank green space where a shield can be placed after a number for the future interstate becomes known.
Don't know, especially given the many years it will take until the project to upgrade US 70 is completed, why the hurry to unveil a sign with a blank space now. Why not wait until May when AASHTO, assuming it get's an application from NCDOT, will decide which number NCDOT can use.

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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #759 on: March 30, 2016, 10:56:00 PM »

"Future Interstate" signs unveiled on the US 70 not-yet-open Goldsboro Bypass:
http://wnct.com/2016/03/30/sign-for-future-u-s-70-interstate-to-be-unveiled-in-goldsboro/

The signs say "Future Interstate" at the top and have a large blank green space where a shield can be placed after a number for the future interstate becomes known.
Don't know, especially given the many years it will take until the project to upgrade US 70 is completed, why the hurry to unveil a sign with a blank space now. Why not wait until May when AASHTO, assuming it get's an application from NCDOT, will decide which number NCDOT can use.

Photo op to distract from the recent H.B. 2 controversy?
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #760 on: March 31, 2016, 07:52:37 AM »

"Future Interstate" signs unveiled on the US 70 not-yet-open Goldsboro Bypass:
http://wnct.com/2016/03/30/sign-for-future-u-s-70-interstate-to-be-unveiled-in-goldsboro/


The signs say "Future Interstate" at the top and have a large blank green space where a shield can be placed after a number for the future interstate becomes known.
Don't know, especially given the many years it will take until the project to upgrade US 70 is completed, why the hurry to unveil a sign with a blank space now. Why not wait until May when AASHTO, assuming it get's an application from NCDOT, will decide which number NCDOT can use.

Photo op to distract from the recent H.B. 2 controversy?


Nah this was planned before all of that broke loose.
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #761 on: March 31, 2016, 08:34:37 AM »

Photo op in general.  Gives the politicians the ability to "show" that they're actually doing "something" when they're really not...
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #762 on: March 31, 2016, 10:30:09 AM »

What will the Interstate designation be? Keep us posted.
At this point, we still don't know. I could see this become an eastern I-44, or barring that, I-42, I-46 or I-48. None of the last three numbers are currently in use anywhere, so I think they'd be a good fit there.
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #763 on: March 31, 2016, 10:48:27 AM »

"Future Interstate" signs unveiled on the US 70 not-yet-open Goldsboro Bypass:
http://wnct.com/2016/03/30/sign-for-future-u-s-70-interstate-to-be-unveiled-in-goldsboro/

The signs say "Future Interstate" at the top and have a large blank green space where a shield can be placed after a number for the future interstate becomes known.
Don't know, especially given the many years it will take until the project to upgrade US 70 is completed, why the hurry to unveil a sign with a blank space now. Why not wait until May when AASHTO, assuming it get's an application from NCDOT, will decide which number NCDOT can use.

A few things
 1) this sign is located on the under construction section of the 70 bypass. So - as long as it's not signed anywhere else - a blank sign just is publicity.  This section of 70 will be opened after Aashto in May and when it opens they can place the shield - open sections of 70 can wait till the designation is assigned

2) silly as it is but this sign appears to have the same dimensions as the Future 495 signs on 64 between 540 and Rocky Mount.  They want a 2di but .... When you are looking for clues that's about all you get

3) the sign unveiling was scheduled and pushed by the Super70 commission before anything with HB2. It is strictly for publicity and awareness of the route - check the box stuff. Heck gov. Easley came to a rather uneventful groundbreaking for an expansion of a shingle mfg plant. Just a check the box thing politicos do.
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #764 on: March 31, 2016, 12:09:25 PM »

What will the Interstate designation be? Keep us posted.

It's I-50. Here is an excerpt from an email from Mr. Durwood Stephenson, the director of the Super 70 Corridor Commission:

"The Corridor Commission has recommended I-50 for several reasons; i.e. no conflicts with numbering, must be even number between 46 and 70. ASHTO will make final decision hopefully at their annual meeting in May, 2016."
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #765 on: March 31, 2016, 12:22:51 PM »

What will the Interstate designation be? Keep us posted.

It's I-50. Here is an excerpt from an email from Mr. Durwood Stephenson, the director of the Super 70 Corridor Commission:

"The Corridor Commission has recommended I-50 for several reasons; i.e. no conflicts with numbering, must be even number between 46 and 70. AASHTO will make final decision hopefully at their annual meeting in May, 2016."

Does NC 50 not count as a conflict with numbering?  Especially since it is concurrent with US 70 and partly US 401 through Raleigh into Garner
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #766 on: March 31, 2016, 12:33:29 PM »

He may have meant no conflict with there being another I-50 somewhere else...?

North Carolina already has I-74/US 74 and I-73/NC 73 without a problem.

There is no rule about state route conflict anyway.  South Carolina has several (20, 126, 185, 385) and only renumbered SC 77 and SC 85 because they crossed into North Carolina and NC renumbered all its original conflicts.  SC 26 and SC 95 were renumbered before the interstate era.

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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #767 on: March 31, 2016, 12:44:23 PM »

What will the Interstate designation be? Keep us posted.

It's I-50. Here is an excerpt from an email from Mr. Durwood Stephenson, the director of the Super 70 Corridor Commission:

"The Corridor Commission has recommended I-50 for several reasons; i.e. no conflicts with numbering, must be even number between 46 and 70. ASHTO will make final decision hopefully at their annual meeting in May, 2016."

Did you mail them - if go great job!
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #768 on: March 31, 2016, 01:33:15 PM »

What will the Interstate designation be? Keep us posted.

It's I-50. Here is an excerpt from an email from Mr. Durwood Stephenson, the director of the Super 70 Corridor Commission:

"The Corridor Commission has recommended I-50 for several reasons; i.e. no conflicts with numbering, must be even number between 46 and 70. ASHTO will make final decision hopefully at their annual meeting in May, 2016."

Did you mail them - if go great job!

Yes. Thanks for getting that info.

Also, what does this do for the Norfolk-Raleigh interstate number? :poke: :spin:
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #769 on: March 31, 2016, 02:06:51 PM »

Also, what does this do for the Norfolk-Raleigh interstate number? :poke: :spin:
If I-50 is accepted by AASHTO, then to fit the grid the US 64/17 route would have to have an even number between 52 and 62. I don't know whether NCDOT is asking for a number for that route on this AASHTO cycle as well.
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #770 on: March 31, 2016, 02:12:36 PM »

Also, what does this do for the Norfolk-Raleigh interstate number? :poke: :spin:
If I-50 is accepted by AASHTO, then to fit the grid the US 64/17 route would have to have an even number between 52 and 62. I don't know whether NCDOT is asking for a number for that route on this AASHTO cycle as well.

I wonder if they will even build it in the first place. But, I wouldn't put anything past NCDOT when it comes to new interstates.
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #771 on: March 31, 2016, 02:17:18 PM »

What will the Interstate designation be? Keep us posted.

It's I-50. Here is an excerpt from an email from Mr. Durwood Stephenson, the director of the Super 70 Corridor Commission:

"The Corridor Commission has recommended I-50 for several reasons; i.e. no conflicts with numbering, must be even number between 46 and 70. AASHTO will make final decision hopefully at their annual meeting in May, 2016."

Does NC 50 not count as a conflict with numbering?  Especially since it is concurrent with US 70 and partly US 401 through Raleigh into Garner

The state could renumber NC 50 to something else, it's not hard for them and they have done this in the past... best example NC 26 --> NC 226.  However, since existing NC 73 and I-73 exist and even cross each other, the current NCDOT may not care.
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #772 on: March 31, 2016, 02:32:38 PM »

What will the Interstate designation be? Keep us posted.

It's I-50. Here is an excerpt from an email from Mr. Durwood Stephenson, the director of the Super 70 Corridor Commission:

"The Corridor Commission has recommended I-50 for several reasons; i.e. no conflicts with numbering, must be even number between 46 and 70. AASHTO will make final decision hopefully at their annual meeting in May, 2016."

Does NC 50 not count as a conflict with numbering?  Especially since it is concurrent with US 70 and partly US 401 through Raleigh into Garner

The state could renumber NC 50 to something else, it's not hard for them and they have done this in the past... best example NC 26 --> NC 226.  However, since existing NC 73 and I-73 exist and even cross each other, the current NCDOT may not care.
NC 50 is concurrent with US 70 in Raleigh but not anywhere along the route of the new interstate (NC 50 roughly parallels I-40, not the proposed I-50). The name NC 50 is well known locally and there would probably be strong local opposition to changing it.
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #773 on: March 31, 2016, 03:26:33 PM »

Also, what does this do for the Norfolk-Raleigh interstate number? :poke: :spin:
If I-50 is accepted by AASHTO, then to fit the grid the US 64/17 route would have to have an even number between 52 and 62. I don't know whether NCDOT is asking for a number for that route on this AASHTO cycle as well.

I wonder if they will even build it in the first place. But, I wouldn't put anything past NCDOT when it comes to new interstates.

If they are asking for I-50 for US 70, then I could see NCDOT ask for I-60 along US 64/US 17, because why not.  :bigass:
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Re: North Carolina
« Reply #774 on: March 31, 2016, 04:08:32 PM »

Also, what does this do for the Norfolk-Raleigh interstate number? :poke: :spin:
If I-50 is accepted by AASHTO, then to fit the grid the US 64/17 route would have to have an even number between 52 and 62. I don't know whether NCDOT is asking for a number for that route on this AASHTO cycle as well.

I wonder if they will even build it in the first place. But, I wouldn't put anything past NCDOT when it comes to new interstates.

If they are asking for I-50 for US 70, then I could see NCDOT ask for I-60 along US 64/US 17, because why not.  :bigass:

Lol.  Doesn't US 60 end somewhere near Norfolk though?
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