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Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly

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roadman65:

--- Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on August 13, 2022, 03:36:11 AM ---
--- Quote from: roadman65 on August 12, 2022, 11:18:14 PM ---https://goo.gl/maps/EaNKSRk8vDo7foi39
Interesting Left Turn Signal sign.

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I looked at it, and yeah, the sign is ... odd. I don't really understand all the standards and what-nots, but yeah, odd.

The intersection has an odd feel to it, very NYC-y. I almost thought it was one head per lane, but I saw the other one on the pole. NYC signals always looked... 'minimalistic' to me.

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New York City seems to use two left turn heads always copying California, Illinois, New Jersey, and I believe Delaware as well.  The rest of New York does not and conforms to the MUTCD.

jakeroot:

--- Quote from: roadman65 on August 13, 2022, 09:18:13 AM ---
--- Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on August 13, 2022, 03:36:11 AM ---
--- Quote from: roadman65 on August 12, 2022, 11:18:14 PM ---https://goo.gl/maps/EaNKSRk8vDo7foi39
Interesting Left Turn Signal sign.

--- End quote ---

I looked at it, and yeah, the sign is ... odd. I don't really understand all the standards and what-nots, but yeah, odd.

The intersection has an odd feel to it, very NYC-y. I almost thought it was one head per lane, but I saw the other one on the pole. NYC signals always looked... 'minimalistic' to me.

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New York City seems to use two left turn heads always copying California, Illinois, New Jersey, and I believe Delaware as well.  The rest of New York does not and conforms to the MUTCD.

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To be clear, all of these other places that require two signals heads for turning traffic are also conforming to the MUTCD. States that just use one are simply meeting the bare-minimum MUTCD requirements.

thenetwork:

--- Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on August 13, 2022, 03:36:11 AM ---
--- Quote from: roadman65 on August 12, 2022, 11:18:14 PM ---https://goo.gl/maps/EaNKSRk8vDo7foi39
Interesting Left Turn Signal sign.

--- End quote ---

I looked at it, and yeah, the sign is ... odd. I don't really understand all the standards and what-nots, but yeah, odd.

The intersection has an odd feel to it, very NYC-y. I almost thought it was one head per lane, but I saw the other one on the pole. NYC signals always looked... 'minimalistic' to me.

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It looks like the solid green signal is closer to the left-turn stop line than the two left-arrow lights and too many people turned based on the green ball signal.

Sani:
My apologies if either of these have already appeared in this 300-page thread.

The effect isn't as noticeable in this photo, but the Clearview type on this sign is stretched horizontally for some reason: https://goo.gl/maps/otn8tKMWBdiyKkT19

I've noticed a few of these now... "Hey, Bob! We musta screwed up that order for the merge signs. Someone wrote down W4-6 on the order form instead of W4-3. Should we send them back?"

"Nah, Steve, too late for that. We've got these extra posts and bolts, we'll make it work." https://goo.gl/maps/aXs8jD2chuxmXavR6

roadfro:

--- Quote from: Sani on August 14, 2022, 01:02:35 AM ---I've noticed a few of these now... "Hey, Bob! We musta screwed up that order for the merge signs. Someone wrote down W4-6 on the order form instead of W4-3. Should we send them back?"

"Nah, Steve, too late for that. We've got these extra posts and bolts, we'll make it work." https://goo.gl/maps/aXs8jD2chuxmXavR6

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In this case, it seems like it's a combination of right sign, wrong location and mounting. Looking upstream in Street View shows the freeway mainline has the proper added lane sign posted. This sign, if oriented correctly, is meant for the on ramp traffic to know they have an added lane, and should be mounted a little further upstream along the on ramp (so as to not be visible from the freeway).

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