Coronavirus pandemic

[J N Winkler]

I just checked the Johns Hopkins dashboard, and less than an hour ago it showed an increase of out-of-China cases today. But now it only lists around 10k. And everything says "no data". What happened?

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/85320e2ea5424dfaaa75ae62e5c06e61

OK, now the total cases looks fine, but the total death is no longer available

Back to normal now

Not really--they've been showing signs of falling victim to their own success since before they dropped county-level display for the US and Canada.  Besides the "No data" and "Cannot access data source" error messages I've seen, their figures are now severely out of date for many jurisdictions.  For example, they are now showing the US with 1268 cases when they were showing 1663 yesterday, and neither yesterday nor today have they picked up the four additional cases Kansas now has (we went from one in Johnson County to five in 24 hours, four in Johnson County and one in Wyandotte County).  And they were showing Italy with 12,462 cases all day yesterday even though the new figure (15,113 cases) had been released by the Italian civil protection authorities shortly after noon Central time.

Edit:  The Kansas case total is now six, with one case (Sedgwick County's first) at Wesley Hospital in Wichita.

[hotdogPi]

I just checked the Johns Hopkins dashboard, and less than an hour ago it showed an increase of out-of-China cases today. But now it only lists around 10k. And everything says "no data". What happened?

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/85320e2ea5424dfaaa75ae62e5c06e61

OK, now the total cases looks fine, but the total death is no longer available

Back to normal now

Not really--they've been showing signs of falling victim to their own success since before they dropped county-level display for the US and Canada.  Besides the "No data" and "Cannot access data source" error messages I've seen, their figures are now severely out of date for many jurisdictions.  For example, they are now showing the US with 1268 cases when they were showing 1663 yesterday, and neither yesterday nor today have they picked up the four additional cases Kansas now has (we went from one in Johnson County to five in 24 hours, four in Johnson County and one in Wyandotte County).  And they were showing Italy with 12,462 cases all day yesterday even though the new figure (15,113 cases) had been released by the Italian civil protection authorities shortly after noon Central time.

CA, TX, FL, MI, GA, OR, and a few others are missing.

[vdeane]

So this might become like Italy? Now I'm scared.

LGL322DL

That is indeed what Governor Cuomo announced yesterday:
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/12/coronavirus-new-york-will-see-same-trajectory-of-cases-as-china-south-korea-and-italy-gov-cuomo-says.html

Does anyone know whether Alaska is canceling things or not? They have no cases yet, and they're isolated from the rest of the country.

They actually do have a case:
https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/2020/03/13/first-positive-alaska-coronavirus-case-identified/

[J N Winkler]

The latest Protezione Civile bulletin is out.  Cases in Italy increased from 15,113 to 17,660 over the last 24 hours, which is only a 16% increase, lower than the 20%-30% daily increases before and for the first few days of the lockdown.  So it looks like things may be starting to come under control there.

[Bruce]

Here's a county-level map for Washington that is updated frequently with state data.

https://public.tableau.com/profile/albert.froling8261#!/vizhome/COVIDDashboard/COVID19WAState

So far: King County has 270 cases, Snohomish has 108, Pierce has 17, and others have less than 4.

[ixnay]

Hymns inappropriate for use when churches reopen: "Crown Him with Many Crowns." 

Why?

ixnay

[ixnay]

Ironic that people are cancelling trips and I'm trying to plan one.  I'm not looking to go over far, though.

Have a family Spring Break trip planned to Hilton Head booked through VRBO.  Got an email notifying me that they will not be issuing any refunds to people who cancel trips, so I guess we're going.  Not sure what we'll do if the flight gets canceled.

I say drive it.  Shouldn't be much traffic.

Amtrak hasn't suspended any services completely on the national network, just cut back on Acela service by two trips.  So that's an option.

Amtrak doesn't go from here to there, at least not in any way that doesn't take multiple days.

The railroads didn't do that back in the day, either.

ixnay

[UnumProvident101]

I'm from Chattanooga, TN and now my county has one case of the Coronavirus and now the state of Tennessee is under a state of emergency

[kalvado]

The latest Protezione Civile bulletin is out.  Cases in Italy increased from 15,113 to 17,660 over the last 24 hours, which is only a 16% increase, lower than the 20%-30% daily increases before and for the first few days of the lockdown.  So it looks like things may be starting to come under control there.

Maybe they stopped counting.
https://twitter.com/jasonvanschoor/status/1237142891077697538

5/ Patients above 65 or younger with comorbidities are not even assessed by ITU, I am not saying not tubed, I'm saying not assessed and no ITU staff attends when they arrest.

[hotdogPi]

The two countries with the most cases and 0 deaths are Denmark and Norway. Sweden has only 1 death; everyone above them has 7 or more.

[webny99]

The two countries with the most cases and 0 deaths are Denmark and Norway. Sweden has only 1 death; everyone above them has 7 or more.

New York State I believe currently has 325 cases and no deaths reported (yet).

Hymns inappropriate for use when churches reopen: "Crown Him with Many Crowns." 

Why?

Just what I was going to ask. 

[US 89]

Hymns inappropriate for use when churches reopen: "Crown Him with Many Crowns." 

Why?

Just what I was going to ask. 

Look up the meaning of "corona" .

[TheGrassGuy]

The two countries with the most cases and 0 deaths are Denmark and Norway. Sweden has only 1 death; everyone above them has 7 or more.

New York State I believe currently has 325 cases and no deaths reported (yet).

Update: NY now has more than 400

[J N Winkler]

The latest Protezione Civile bulletin is out.  Cases in Italy increased from 15,113 to 17,660 over the last 24 hours, which is only a 16% increase, lower than the 20%-30% daily increases before and for the first few days of the lockdown.  So it looks like things may be starting to come under control there.

Maybe they stopped counting.

Hmmm.  Hard to say--"not assessed" is not quite the same as saying no samples are taken when the person dies (as is how Kansas detected its first community-spread case).  But, yes, things are still looking quite grim in Italy either way.

[kalvado]

The latest Protezione Civile bulletin is out.  Cases in Italy increased from 15,113 to 17,660 over the last 24 hours, which is only a 16% increase, lower than the 20%-30% daily increases before and for the first few days of the lockdown.  So it looks like things may be starting to come under control there.

Maybe they stopped counting.

Hmmm.  Hard to say--"not assessed" is not quite the same as saying no samples are taken when the person dies (as is how Kansas detected its first community-spread case).  But, yes, things are still looking quite grim in Italy either way.

I assume it works like that:
Sample taken, labeled, put in a fridge for later analysis;
body bagged, labeled, loaded on a truck for dumping in mass grave;
ID is kept in the bottom drawer with a post-it note with date for eventual issuance of death certificate

Priority should be given to helping those who can be helped. Those who don't need urgent help (still breathing or already not breathing) can wait.

[Tonytone]

iPhone

[DaBigE]

Hymns inappropriate for use when churches reopen: "Crown Him with Many Crowns." 

Why?

Just what I was going to ask. 

Look up the meaning of "corona" .

And the number of people that will actually make that connection?

[noelbotevera]

Well, school's cancelled for the next two weeks. I'll be returning to school on March 30th.

Thoughts on it so far:
-Why's everybody buying so much toilet paper? How's that going to help?
-Isolation isn't the best way to deal with the outbreak (yes, Poland did that during the Black Death but technology has progressed). South Korea's approach (watch the confirmed cases very closely, and test literally everyone) works the best, considering the statistics so far (7,979 cases, 71 deaths).
-Obviously, we're doing a terrible job containing it, since we're at 2,210 cases and don't have the resources to thoroughly test everyone.
-I haven't felt terrible so far, except for a bout of stomach flu (my fault), and some minor colds. Pretty sure I'll be fine.
-Our house declared tissue and toilet paper rationing. I don't use much of both, so that's not a problem.
-Using the panic to plan a trip out of town this weekend. Might go to Ocean City, the Chesapeake Bay, Black Moshannon State Park...

[1995hoo]

Hymns inappropriate for use when churches reopen: "Crown Him with Many Crowns." 

Why?

Just what I was going to ask. 

Look up the meaning of "corona" .

And the number of people that will actually make that connection?

So someone shouldn't make a pun because not everyone will get it?

[jakeroot]

-Why's everybody buying so much toilet paper? How's that going to help?

Because everyone's fat, and they make massive messes every time they visit the toilet. At least that's my guess! They're buying it up because they don't plan on leaving home for a while. Too bad more people don't have bidets.

People also aren't very thrifty with toilet paper, judging by how often toilets get backed up.

As someone with a pretty healthy diet and body (as of lately), I rarely go through a roll of TP quicker than two or three weeks. I have about 20 rolls in a utility room just from regular shopping.

[noelbotevera]

-Why's everybody buying so much toilet paper? How's that going to help?

Because everyone's fat, and they make massive messes every time they visit the toilet. At least that's my guess! They're buying it up because they don't plan on leaving home for a while. Too bad more people don't have bidets.

Quick tangent on bidets: finally figured out the proper term for them (used to call them "fancy toilet seats"), after remembering using one at Au Pied du Cochon, a restaurant in Montreal. Probably the best bathroom break in my life, since the bidet had heated seats and a gentle spray option. Really want to buy one of those bidets when I have the cash, rather than installing an entire basin.

Of course, there's the Filipino bidet...a small cup of (preferably hot) water (500 mL measuring cup is what we use) and your fingers coated with soap. Some conservative toilet paper use later to dry off, and you've got a clean bum (and wash your hands of course!).

[Max Rockatansky]

-Why's everybody buying so much toilet paper? How's that going to help?

Because everyone's fat, and they make massive messes every time they visit the toilet. At least that's my guess! They're buying it up because they don't plan on leaving home for a while. Too bad more people don't have bidets.

People also aren't very thrifty with toilet paper, judging by how often toilets get backed up.

As someone with a pretty healthy diet and body (as of lately), I rarely go through a roll of TP quicker than two or three weeks. I have about 20 rolls in a utility room just from regular shopping.

Most of it has to down with all the messages people get from all over telling them to prepare to shelter in place for 14-30 days.  To that end paper towels and Kleenex is also flying off the shelves.   Most people I will say are noticeably excessive with their toilet paper usage when a square or two of the extra ply stuff probably would get them out of most sticky situations they find themselves in on the toilet. 

[jakeroot]

Most people I will say are noticeably excessive with their toilet paper usage when a square or two of the extra ply stuff probably would get them out of most sticky situations they find themselves in on the toilet.

Yeah, no shit. I don't know why people waste the stuff to begin with.

Quick tangent on bidets...Some conservative toilet paper use later to dry off, and you've got a clean bum (and wash your hands of course!).

Which reminds me...you still gotta dry off after a bidet. Guess there isn't much winning.

[1995hoo]

-Why's everybody buying so much toilet paper? How's that going to help?

Because everyone's fat, and they make massive messes every time they visit the toilet. At least that's my guess! They're buying it up because they don't plan on leaving home for a while. Too bad more people don't have bidets.

Quick tangent on bidets: finally figured out the proper term for them (used to call them "fancy toilet seats"), after remembering using one at Au Pied du Cochon, a restaurant in Montreal. Probably the best bathroom break in my life, since the bidet had heated seats and a gentle spray option. Really want to buy one of those bidets when I have the cash, rather than installing an entire basin.

Of course, there's the Filipino bidet...a small cup of (preferably hot) water (500 mL measuring cup is what we use) and your fingers coated with soap. Some conservative toilet paper use later to dry off, and you've got a clean bum (and wash your hands of course!).

Since so many people will be telecommuting, you can just wait to shower until after you leave a load. Then you won't need TP, but your soap budget might increase.

[jakeroot]

Since so many people will be telecommuting, you can just wait to shower until after you leave a load. Then you won't need TP, but your soap budget might increase.

Two birds with one stone ... someone is thinking appropriately for a pandemic.