Minor things that bother you

[Big John]

recursive acronyms:

php='php hypertext preprocessor'
kde='kde desktop environment'
i heard but am not 100% on gnu='gnu's not unix'

repetitive acronyms:

'atm machine'
'pin number'

that'd be like calling the thing you play football with a 'football ball'.

Oh the good ol' department of redundancy department.

On sports TV:  The XYZ halftime show, brought to you by XYZ.

[oscar]

recursive acronyms:

php='php hypertext preprocessor'
kde='kde desktop environment'
i heard but am not 100% on gnu='gnu's not unix'

These are a thing because the open-source programmers back in the 90s when these projects were getting started thought recursive acronyms were pretty funny. Open-source programmers have a kind of unique culture that has a strange sense of humor.

Anyway, I don't think KDE was ever a recursive acronym. The "K" was originally for "Kool" (because CDE was already taken by the Common Desktop Environment), but later they just dropped it and it was the "K Desktop Environment", until they dropped that and now it's just the "KDE Software Collection" or "KDE SC". Whatever it's called, it's better than GNOME.

Another one coming out of that community (where I lurked on the fringes, at Snodfart's computer science department):

MUNG = Mung Until No Good

[Scott5114]

This. That road is KS 9 (and US 77) for me, not K-9, which I consider nonstandard notation despite being official.

Well, you're just wrong, then. It is K-9 in both official designation and by what people call it. It would be as if I said your country was Storkslapper for me, not Spain or España, which I consider nonstandard notation despite being official.

He has a point. Not sure why those states, despite being one of many that share a common first letter, were able to capitalize on the single-letter abbreviation.

I mean, not really. Using the postal code for state routes is something a few states do, but for most of them roadgeeks made it up wholesale. Nowhere in State of Oklahoma parlance are our roads ever referred to as "OK-xx" or "Oklahoma xx"; they are uniformly "SH-xx" or "State Highway xx" (one of the rare times ODOT is consistent about something!). In Missouri, the state highways are not "MO-xx", but officially "Route xx", which is never to be abbreviated to "Rt." officially. "SH" and "Route" can be ambiguous, though (there are lots of states that use "SH", including Texas next door, and "Route" could refer to any numbered highway) so we as roadgeeks distinguish between them with postal codes because we talk about routes in a lot of different states.

Kansas and Michigan just made their routes K- and M- and just got lucky that Kentucky, Missouri, Minnesota, etc. didn't decide to do the same thing.

[formulanone]

...which I consider nonstandard notation despite being official.

Wut.

I think he's saying that standard notation (or suffix) would be two letters for a state route/highway. Kansas would be 'KS', not 'K'. Likewise, Michigan would be 'MI', not 'M'. But it seems the single-letter suffix is the official notation.

He has a point. Not sure why those states, despite being one of many that share a common first letter, were able to capitalize on the single-letter abbreviation.

I guess those states just used it in their official documentation; however, Pennsylvania could just start using P-611, Florida could extoll the virtues of a single character dropped by switching to F-794, and Delaware can use D-141 at any time, but they haven't. 

At this point, it would just add to confusion and take three decades to change an unseen speck of dust. I, and many other road geeks/enthusiasts/fans/foamers use the state abbreviation for denoting ribbons of routes outside their home state because there's only so many SHs and SRs to go around without complicating discussion.

[hotdogPi]

Pennsylvania could just start using P-611

Or they could decide to call it US 611, the same way that Colorado has one and only one route beginning with "E-".

[texaskdog]

#1 for me...people sighing.  Does sighing prompt anyone to change their behavior?  I once sat next to a burned out employee and counted his sighs all day.  hundreds.

[texaskdog]

recursive acronyms:

php='php hypertext preprocessor'
kde='kde desktop environment'
i heard but am not 100% on gnu='gnu's not unix'

repetitive acronyms:

'atm machine'
'pin number'

that'd be like calling the thing you play football with a 'football ball'.

Oh the good ol' department of redundancy department.

Like New York Football Giants.  The baseball Giants left New York 64 years ago.

[jeffandnicole]

recursive acronyms:

php='php hypertext preprocessor'
kde='kde desktop environment'
i heard but am not 100% on gnu='gnu's not unix'

repetitive acronyms:

'atm machine'
'pin number'

that'd be like calling the thing you play football with a 'football ball'.

Oh the good ol' department of redundancy department.

Like New York Football Giants.  The baseball Giants left New York 64 years ago.

That's just people/ESPN Broadcasters having fun with the team name.  At least it's not official, like Washington Football Team.

[texaskdog]

recursive acronyms:

php='php hypertext preprocessor'
kde='kde desktop environment'
i heard but am not 100% on gnu='gnu's not unix'

repetitive acronyms:

'atm machine'
'pin number'

that'd be like calling the thing you play football with a 'football ball'.

Oh the good ol' department of redundancy department.

Like New York Football Giants.  The baseball Giants left New York 64 years ago.

That's just people/ESPN Broadcasters having fun with the team name.  At least it's not official, like Washington Football Team.

That's kind of funny.  It shows A) if you hate our name we just wont have one  B) they sound like any soccer team that goes nameless

[Bruce]

"National" chains that aren't actually national.

Last time I checked, the Pacific Northwest is a pretty major part of this nation.

[hbelkins]

Another one coming out of that community (where I lurked on the fringes, at Snodfart's computer science department):

MUNG = Mung Until No Good
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PINE = Pine Is Not Elm. (Did anyone here ever read m.t.r with Pine or Elm?)

recursive acronyms:

php='php hypertext preprocessor'
kde='kde desktop environment'
i heard but am not 100% on gnu='gnu's not unix'

repetitive acronyms:

'atm machine'
'pin number'

that'd be like calling the thing you play football with a 'football ball'.

Oh the good ol' department of redundancy department.

I remember listening to a radio morning show as a kid, the hosts hated the stat in baseball being said "RBIs", because to them that meant you were saying "runs batted ins". So they would always say it "RsBI." I suppose it make sense...

I've always just said "RBI": "Howie Kendrick's grand slam gave him 4 RBI for the inning." It's correct regardless of whether it's singular or plural because the first word is "R" either way.

The plural of the title of the top elected lawyer in a state (or appointed by the president and confirmed by the Senate at the federal level) is attorneys general, not attorney generals. I'm still unsure about the plural of the title of the top elected county official in Kentucky. It's county judge-executive (it used to be county judge until the system of county courts was abolished, and then the position was known as county judge-executive). I don't know whether to call them county judges-executive or county judge-executives.

[zachary_amaryllis]

PINE = Pine Is Not Elm. (Did anyone here ever read m.t.r with Pine or Elm?)

i used to.  nice, quick and dirty without all that tedious mucking about with a gui.

[texaskdog]

"National" chains that aren't actually national.

World Champions for sports that only play in one country

[Big John]

"National" chains that aren't actually national.

World Champions for sports that only play in one country

Miss Universe that only consists of contestants of one planet.

[J N Winkler]

PINE = Pine Is Not Elm. (Did anyone here ever read m.t.r with Pine or Elm?)

I think I tried Pine once with Usenet newsgroups, though I used it almost exclusively for email.  When I transitioned to reading newsgroups through an email client briefly before I quit Usenet altogether, I used Thunderbird.  I didn't feel I was getting enough out of MTR in its later days to justify the learning curve of transitioning to a Unix-based client that would have offered content filtration.

[kenarmy]

Speaking of, it bothers me when there is a "1-XXX- XXX- "insert random word" . like just give me  the whole number i dont have time to pay attention to those little letters 🙄. It's designed to help you remember but it doesn't help.

[Big John]

^^ Or when a company tells you to call 1-800-8letters.  It always has 7 digits after the "1-800", so what are you supposed to do with the 8th or more digits?

[Scott5114]

For a while there, the phone I had didn't include the "traditional" dialing letters, because it had a QWERTY physical keyboard and the numbers were simply part of that keyboard. So if someone wanted to include an "S" or something like that in their phone number I would have had no way to translate it to the number it was supposed to be. Guess how many of that kind of phone number I called after I got that phone?

[tolbs17]

What's funny is that Alps laughs of what I say sometimes. 

[Scott5114]

What's funny is that Alps laughs of what I say sometimes. 

And that bothers you?

[texaskdog]

"National" chains that aren't actually national.

World Champions for sports that only play in one country

Miss Universe that only consists of contestants of one planet.

Genius!

[tolbs17]

What's funny is that Alps laughs of what I say sometimes. 

And that bothers you?

Naw, not really. I don't want to be rude

[Scott5114]

What's funny is that Alps laughs of what I say sometimes. 

And that bothers you?

Naw, not really.

Why did you post it in "minor things that bother you" then?

[kenarmy]

Speaking of.. i'm banned from the chat and i'm not exactly sure why  .

[tolbs17]

What's funny is that Alps laughs of what I say sometimes. 

And that bothers you?

Naw, not really.

Why did you post it in "minor things that bother you" then?

Cause I wanted to joke.