NJ Turnpike upgrading signing

[PAHighways]

I could have sworn there's a "76 West - Cleveland" for non-exiting traffic at Monroeville.  (And a "Columbus Ohio [sic]" on a supplemental sign approaching New Stanton.)

The pull-thru sign there says "Ohio and West."

Of course, our beloved Commonwealth won't even acknowledge its largest city west of Harrisburg.  I mean, it won't acknowledge, west of Harrisburg, its largest city.  As opposed to its largest city that's west of Harrisburg, which is like a fifth as large as the former.  

Guides east of Harrisburg use Philadelphia/Harrisburg and guides west use Pittsburgh/Harrisburg, which is appropriate since those are the largest cities along the Turnpike.  There is no reason to add "Philadelphia" to ones west, nor a reason to add "Pittsburgh" to ones east of the capital.

[Michael in Philly]

I could have sworn there's a "76 West - Cleveland" for non-exiting traffic at Monroeville.  (And a "Columbus Ohio [sic]" on a supplemental sign approaching New Stanton.)

The pull-thru sign there says "Ohio and West."

Of course, our beloved Commonwealth won't even acknowledge its largest city west of Harrisburg.  I mean, it won't acknowledge, west of Harrisburg, its largest city.  As opposed to its largest city that's west of Harrisburg, which is like a fifth as large as the former.  

Guides east of Harrisburg use Philadelphia/Harrisburg and guides west use Pittsburgh/Harrisburg, which is appropriate since those are the largest cities along the Turnpike.  There is no reason to add "Philadelphia" to ones west, nor a reason to add "Pittsburgh" to ones east of the capital.

Well, I've already said how I feel about American BGS's not being informative enough.  20 years ago, the entry sign for the Turnpike westbound at either US 1 or US 13 (I forget) read "Harrisburg, Pittsburgh & Ohio."  That's more like it!

UPDATE/EDIT:
On further research, I knew I'd seen a "Cleveland" somewhere:  https://www.aaroads.com/northeast/pennsylvania075/i-076_wb_exit_075_04.jpg

[Alex]

Well, I've already said how I feel about American BGS's not being informative enough.  20 years ago, the entry sign for the Turnpike westbound at either US 1 or US 13 (I forget) read "Harrisburg, Pittsburgh & Ohio."  That's more like it!

Indeed. Here is an original sign from the Germantown Pike (old U.S. 422) interchange with I-276.

[NE2]

Indeed. Here is an original sign from the Germantown Pike (old U.S. 422) interchange with I-276.

403...

[hbelkins]

Indeed. Here is an original sign from the Germantown Pike (old U.S. 422) interchange with I-276.

403...

Appears as if Jeff doesn't allow hotlinking.

[vdeane]

I think that one's just plain blocked.  I can't even get to it by pasting in the url after navigating to PA Highways first!

[PAHighways]

All of the Gallery pictures are hotlinked protected.

Go here and the picture in question is the second of the three from Alex under the 8/1993 entry.

[NE2]

I still got a 403 until I cleared my cache. Gotta love the overkill.

[bzakharin]

I hope this isn't late or discussed elsewhere, but what's up with the Exit 5 Northbound pullthrough sign? It looks like a hybrid of the old and the new signage. It has "[turnpike shield] North" at the top and then "Thru Traffic\Next Exit 7 Miles" below it.

[HighwayMaster]

I still got a 403 until I cleared my cache. Gotta love the overkill.

404 here.

[Alps]

I hope this isn't late or discussed elsewhere, but what's up with the Exit 5 Northbound pullthrough sign? It looks like a hybrid of the old and the new signage. It has "[turnpike shield] North" at the top and then "Thru Traffic\Next Exit 7 Miles" below it.

Working on that. Up to the Turnpike Authority to decide whether they're ready to move beyond THRU TRAFFIC.

[newyorker478]

Anybody have any pics of the new NJTP pull-throughs? Personally I kinda liked THRU TRAFFIC ONLY and I hope they don't get rid of the exit signs, as they did on the Western Spur SB at the Sports Complex exit and the tollboooth

[NJRoadfan]

Northbound signs say "New York".

[Alps]

Not even Del Mem Bridge. Interesting. New York is used all the way up the Turnpike, probably even past the exits that start to go there (10, 13, 14, 16E)

[1995hoo]

Northbound signs say "New York".

No more info on distance to the next exit? I always liked having that info.

[J N Winkler]

No more info on distance to the next exit? I always liked having that info.

They are still doing it, just not at Exit 4.  The signs photographed were installed in NJTA contract T600.156, which also installed another "THRU TRAFFIC" sign with distance to next exit northbound at Exit 5 (in fact, the same sign as that mentioned by bzakharin upthread).

[NJRoadfan]

The "next exit xx miles" has been added to the bottom of the BGSes of the current exit.

[Alps]

The "next exit xx miles" has been added to the bottom of the BGSes of the current exit.

Soon it'll be going as a separate panel per MUTCD

[HighwayMaster]

The "next exit xx miles" has been added to the bottom of the BGSes of the current exit.

Soon it'll be going as a separate panel per MUTCD.

Says who?

[Alps]

Says the MUTCD. And before you continue to be snippity, I may have influence regarding these signs... I don't want to elaborate on forum.

[hbelkins]

Says the MUTCD. And before you continue to be snippity, I may have influence regarding these signs... I don't want to elaborate on forum.

Should that be "Parsnippity?" 

[jeffandnicole]

What's funny about the separate panel conforming to MUTCD standards is that there is so little of the NJ Turnpike conforming to MUTCD standards!  From the Exit # appearing in the main sign panel rather than a tab at the top, to the 25' skip lines in the roadway, there are so many things out of conformity!

[Alps]

What's funny about the separate panel conforming to MUTCD standards is that there is so little of the NJ Turnpike conforming to MUTCD standards!  From the Exit # appearing in the main sign panel rather than a tab at the top, to the 25' skip lines in the roadway, there are so many things out of conformity!

25' isn't out of conformance. 10/30 is a suggestion, but by no means a requirement for lane striping. In terms of a lot of the signage, you'll notice it start to comply over the coming years as signs get replaced thanks to the requirements of the MUTCD. Keep your eyes peeled.

[mtantillo]

What's funny about the separate panel conforming to MUTCD standards is that there is so little of the NJ Turnpike conforming to MUTCD standards!  From the Exit # appearing in the main sign panel rather than a tab at the top, to the 25' skip lines in the roadway, there are so many things out of conformity!

25' isn't out of conformance. 10/30 is a suggestion, but by no means a requirement for lane striping. In terms of a lot of the signage, you'll notice it start to comply over the coming years as signs get replaced thanks to the requirements of the MUTCD. Keep your eyes peeled.

Thank goodness!  I was quite blown away when old, but compliant signs were replaced with Jersey Turnpike style signs on I-95 between I-80 and the GWB. 

[jeffandnicole]

According to Section 3A.06 of the MUTCD, you are right - the 10/30 is a guidence.  However, it states this specifically: "Broken lines should consist of 10-foot line segments and 30-foot gaps, or dimensions in a similar ratio of line segments to gaps as appropriate for traffic speeds and need for delineation."  On the NJ Turnpike, there is certainly not a 75 foot space between skip lines.  In fact, often times the unmarked portion is smaller than the marked portion (say, 25 feet of line, followed by 15 - 20 feet of unmarked pavement, followed by 25 feet of marked pavement, etc)