NY 17/"I-86"

[Rothman]

I would like to see far more Interstate 86 signs erected where there currently aren't any, even if upgrades to Interstate Standards aren't completed yet. Maybe it would give some incentive to get a move on making the Interstate upgrade improvements. After all, the Interstate conversion of the entire corridor was once planned to be completed by 2009 (or at least that's what then-Governor George Pataki said in 1998, was he off by at least a few decades).

Your opinion is noted and I think NYSDOT will continue to do its best to comply with FHWA and AASHTO.

[seicer]

Hey, if we wanted that, we'd bring back Cuomo 😉

[vdeane]

I would like to see far more Interstate 86 signs erected where there currently aren't any, even if upgrades to Interstate Standards aren't completed yet. Maybe it would give some incentive to get a move on making the Interstate upgrade improvements. After all, the Interstate conversion of the entire corridor was once planned to be completed by 2009 (or at least that's what then-Governor George Pataki said in 1998, was he off by at least a few decades).

Not sure how much of an incentive it would be, given that this part and this part are still years away at best (the former at least has a project being studied; the latter, I have no clue about).  And in North Carolina, where "future I-26" shields are posted that look just like regular interstate shields, if anything it seems to have deflated any push there might have been to get things finished.

Yeah, 2009 turned out to be a bit off.  The conversion ended up being more expensive than expected and fell way down the state's priority list when money got tight (for a while, it was even off the list entirely).

[Rothman]

I would like to see far more Interstate 86 signs erected where there currently aren't any, even if upgrades to Interstate Standards aren't completed yet. Maybe it would give some incentive to get a move on making the Interstate upgrade improvements. After all, the Interstate conversion of the entire corridor was once planned to be completed by 2009 (or at least that's what then-Governor George Pataki said in 1998, was he off by at least a few decades).

Not sure how much of an incentive it would be, given that this part and this part are still years away at best (the former at least has a project being studied; the latter, I have no clue about).  And in North Carolina, where "future I-26" shields are posted that look just like regular interstate shields, if anything it seems to have deflated any push there might have been to get things finished.

Yeah, 2009 turned out to be a bit off.  The conversion ended up being more expensive than expected and fell way down the state's priority list when money got tight (for a while, it was even off the list entirely).

I've got a hunch that the State is regretting putting the conversion back on the table. The big money came in and a newer crew of leadership approved a bunch of megaprojects without knowing the sultry history of some of them, leading to "unexpected" overruns (i.e., overruns the old crew knew were inevitable, but held to a party line the new crew took as the gospel truth).  So, all of a sudden, there's a lot of sweating over available funding as NYSDOT lumbers towards its upcoming capital program update.

Eh, just my opinion on how I see things unrolling.  The projects will probably still get done, but probably at a cost to the "core" program.

We shall see.  Probably.

(personal opinion emphasized)

[abqtraveler]

Well I would think that the NY peeps would have posted this already, but I did not know that this I-86 EB shield existed before Saturday.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10219981070077597&set=pcb.10219981105758489)

And this particular shield has been there since 2008 at least... wow.

It's interesting how NYSDOT is being very inconsistent at this particular interchange. Given the overhead sign with I-86, there are no ground-mounted I-86 signs, only NY-17 signs. But...approaching the same interchange from the opposite direction on NY-52, there is a JCT NY-17/I-86 sign. Just to add to more of the confusion of what's really going on with the I-86 conversion along the stretch.

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.7907776,-74.7343433,3a,54.8y,172.37h,80.75t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sknU6_gdVkhe1P8R5um-FUw!2e0!5s20220901T000000!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

[dzheng35]

Does anyone know when right-of-way acquisition will begin for the Hale Eddy section and if they have a preliminary design ready yet now that they will carry out that project according to the STIP program?

[amroad17]

Found this interesting mileage sign while looking at GSV a couple of days ago.  https://maps.app.goo.gl/WkpGDsKbkghfMswL9

This is at Exit 59A on I-86 near Waverly, NY.  Also, the mileage on the sign is correct.

[webny99]

Found this interesting mileage sign while looking at GSV a couple of days ago.  https://maps.app.goo.gl/WkpGDsKbkghfMswL9

This is at Exit 59A on I-86 near Waverly, NY.  Also, the mileage on the sign is correct.

The most interesting thing here is that this is east of Corning, so you'd think Corning would be the city to appear here. That being said, Erie does seem to be NYSDOT's preferred control city for I-86 WB, as seen on these new installs at I-86/I-390.

[Rothman]

Having Erie on I-86 EB is a trick.

[webny99]

Having Erie on I-86 EB is a trick.

Whoops, I meant WB of course. Although EB on the western I-86 would also be a trick.

[machias]

Found this interesting mileage sign while looking at GSV a couple of days ago.  https://maps.app.goo.gl/WkpGDsKbkghfMswL9

This is at Exit 59A on I-86 near Waverly, NY.  Also, the mileage on the sign is correct.

The most interesting thing here is that this is east of Corning, so you'd think Corning would be the city to appear here. That being said, Erie does seem to be NYSDOT's preferred control city for I-86 WB, as seen on these new installs at I-86/I-390.

I much rather the regions were consistent with "Erie" vs "Erie Pa". Personally, I prefer "Erie Pa" but that's because I lived in Jamestown for a while and the locals tended to throw "PA" on anything that wasn't in New York anyway.