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Jacksonville, FL
« on: November 28, 2017, 08:19:39 AM »

From what it looks like, this plan would remove the freeway link for U.S. 1 Alternate between the Hart Bridge and Martin Luther King, Jr. Parkway. Currently that connection is just one lane per direction.

Mayor in Washington 'to advocate for Jacksonville’s needs'

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Mayor Lenny Curry is spending part of this week in Washington D.C., to lobby federal officials. That likely includes a proposal to tear down ramps to the Hart Bridge Expressway.

Curry’s office said his trip to D.C. is “to advocate for Jacksonville’s needs.”

According to the schedule, Curry left Monday and will stay through Wednesday to meet with lawmakers and Trump administration officials, specifically those who have oversight of federal transportation spending.

Curry is seeking a $25 million Infrastructure for Rebuilding America grant from the U.S. Department of Transportation to offset the estimated $50 million road project.

City Council members approved $1.5 million for surveying, geotechnical investigations and preparation of a design criteria package on Oct. 24 after a Florida Department of Transportation study found that removing the ramps would improve freight traffic to Talleyrand Avenue.

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Re: Jacksonville, FL
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2017, 08:35:57 AM »

Visible progress being made with new express lanes along the West beltway

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The new express lanes along the West beltway are set to open in early 2018, but drivers from the Buckman Bridge to I-95 are seeing signs of progress. Some of the new express lanes are paved, but not yet ready to go. Overhead toll structures are up as well. One frequent driver of the West Beltway says he’s noticed less construction vehicles as well.

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Re: Jacksonville, FL
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2017, 08:45:57 AM »

Diverging diamond road configuration comes to First Coast

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The first diverging diamond interchange on the First Coast is being built at I-95 exit 373, where the interstate connects with and crosses over A1A/State Road 200.

From above the stretch of A1A/200 looks like a braid of rope because instead of each direction of traffic traveling parallel and to the right of opposing traffic as usual, the sides actually swap while traveling underneath the Interstate.

"Scary!," said a woman named Karen to First Coast News just a few footsteps away from the construction, while looking at FDOT animated video depicting various viewpoints of what the finished product will be, expected in summer 2020.

Holy cats! Eight DDI's for SR 23?

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The project in Yulee carries a price tag of $40 million. FDOT said more diverging diamonds - specifically eight along State Route 23 - are planned, with construction to begin in 2019.

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Re: Jacksonville, FL
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2017, 09:39:48 AM »

So if I got this right the city wants to push traffic from US 1A onto a surface grade while approaching the Hart Bridge?  How is that supposed to improve traffic at Talleyrand Avenue?  Wouldn't a full set of ramps at Duval Street be a better approach than what is being proposed?  US 1A may be an awful freeway design but gutting part of it for a surface alignment won't help any.

Speaking of the Hart Bridge/US 1A ramp connection what the hell is this supposed to be?....a half ass attempt at a northbound ramp?

https://www.google.com/maps/@30.3260818,-81.6336948,3a,60y,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s06smMqACdRCIOICvrEB6Kw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en
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Re: Jacksonville, FL
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2017, 10:30:16 AM »

So how much longer until FL 9B becomes I-795?
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Re: Jacksonville, FL
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2017, 10:47:03 AM »

So if I got this right the city wants to push traffic from US 1A onto a surface grade while approaching the Hart Bridge?  How is that supposed to improve traffic at Talleyrand Avenue?  Wouldn't a full set of ramps at Duval Street be a better approach than what is being proposed?  US 1A may be an awful freeway design but gutting part of it for a surface alignment won't help any.

Speaking of the Hart Bridge/US 1A ramp connection what the hell is this supposed to be?....a half ass attempt at a northbound ramp?

https://www.google.com/maps/@30.3260818,-81.6336948,3a,60y,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s06smMqACdRCIOICvrEB6Kw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

Look at the older Street View images. It appears to have a gate, so it's probably meant to be a part-time ramp. I wonder whether it might be intended to be used for stadium events to help expedite traffic leaving the area (even if it might not actually be used in that manner)? That "Tailgaters Parking" operation did a pretty booming business the last time I went to a game there.
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Re: Jacksonville, FL
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2017, 07:37:00 PM »

So how much longer until FL 9B becomes I-795?

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=2867.0

From what it looks like, this plan would remove the freeway link for U.S. 1 Alternate between the Hart Bridge and Martin Luther King, Jr. Parkway. Currently that connection is just one lane per direction.

Mayor in Washington 'to advocate for Jacksonville’s needs'

They must be high if they want to get rid of those ramps.  That is, unless they want to re-configure it to connect directly to Gator Bowl Blvd.  Might be a 'tad' tolerable that way, but those ramps need to be there.  There is no other 'reasonable' connection to replace it if they are going to completely destroy it.  Cesery/University Blvd (FL-109) is NOT a reasonable alternative there for the traffic.

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Re: Jacksonville, FL
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2017, 02:28:02 PM »

Whoever’s proposing the plan of removing the connector from MLK Pkwy to the Hart Bridge is seriously out of their mind. This connection along with US 1 ALT can serve as a bypass of Downtown Jacksonville if I-95 or the Fuller Warren gets backed up. It also provides a shortcut from points north on I-95 towards Beach Blvd via FL 228 after the Bridge.
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Re: Jacksonville, FL
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2017, 05:34:45 PM »

Why did they remove US 1A off of SR 115 to begin with?
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Re: Jacksonville, FL
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2017, 12:11:08 AM »

Why did they remove US 1A off of SR 115 to begin with?

It never was.  I think you're confusing it with US-90 Alternate.

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Re: Jacksonville, FL
« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2017, 04:30:07 PM »

US 1A was on 115...

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Re: Jacksonville, FL
« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2017, 05:13:16 PM »

Why did they remove US 1A off of SR 115?
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Re: Jacksonville, FL
« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2017, 07:49:46 PM »

US 1A was on 115...

News to me to be honest (not counting the 'unsigned' segment).  I honestly had thought that the 'Arlington Expressway' segment had only been US-90 Alternate in the past.

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Re: Jacksonville, FL
« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2017, 09:09:22 AM »

Why did they remove US 1A off of SR 115?
US 1 alternate has used Emerson St to Phillips highway since at least the 1980s. I have seen older maps that have Us 1A using Arlington Expressway and Southside Blvd.

I think Southside Blvd should just continue as SR113, like the Southside Connector.

 SR 117 can go away. Make Norwood Ave 115 since it's the same street as Lem Turner Rd, name change at I 95.

As it is now 115 is discontinuous

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Re: Jacksonville, FL
« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2017, 11:12:56 AM »

US 1 Alternate shifted away from the Arlington Expressway once the Haines St/20th Expressways opened. These are MLK Pkwy now.
1955 map showing the former alignment:
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Re: Jacksonville, FL
« Reply #15 on: December 16, 2017, 11:34:16 PM »


 SR 117 can go away. Make Norwood Ave 115 since it's the same street as Lem Turner Rd, name change at I 95.

As it is now 115 is discontinuous

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Not exactly....SR 115 has a silent concurrency with I-95 between Lem Turner and 20th St Expressway. Internally with FDOT, it is one, wholly connected route.
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Re: Jacksonville, FL
« Reply #16 on: December 16, 2017, 11:37:30 PM »


 SR 117 can go away. Make Norwood Ave 115 since it's the same street as Lem Turner Rd, name change at I 95.

As it is now 115 is discontinuous

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Not exactly....SR 115 has a silent concurrency with I-95 between Lem Turner and 20th St Expressway. Internally with FDOT, it is one, wholly connected route.
I actually read that after I posted the previous message.. it bothers me how SR 115 and SR 228 loose signage in downtown Jacksonville

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Hart Bridge Expressway west leg permanently closed
« Reply #17 on: May 13, 2020, 09:00:22 AM »

The Hart Bridge Expressway elevated roadway west from U.S. 1 ALT and the Hart Bridge closed last month. A 18 month long project demolishes the viaduct between A.P. Randolph Street and Gator Bowl Boulevard and replaces it with an at-grade boulevard. The flyovers spanning Hogans Creek into Downtown will remain.

Detours for Hart Bridge Expressway ramps demolition begin April 4

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The $25.4 million demolition of the overhead Hart Bridge Expressway ramps near TIAA Bank Field will begin next week, a city spokesperson said April 2.

Traffic detours will begin April 4 for Hart Bridge commuters in and out of Downtown.

The roughly 18 months of traffic disruption is meant to support Jacksonville Jaguars owner Shad Khan’s estimated $2.5 billion redevelopment of the Shipyards properties and Lot J near the stadium and Metropolitan Park.

The project calls for removing part of the Hart Bridge ramp at Liberty Street between Gator Bowl and A. Philip Randolph boulevards, bringing a portion of the expressway to street level and aligning the new roadway.

Construction of a signalized intersection at Gator Bowl Boulevard is part of the project.

Map showing the part to be removed

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Re: Jacksonville, FL
« Reply #18 on: May 13, 2020, 10:36:49 PM »

That sucks. I’ve used this bridge many times. Downgrading it seems backwards. Is there development planned here to connect the river?
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Re: Jacksonville, FL
« Reply #19 on: May 14, 2020, 12:15:22 AM »

^ Yes, development related to the Jaguars stadium, referenced in the article Alex posted.

FDOT traffic data shows an AADT of less than 15K.  Even with combined with the existing ~4200 along Gator Bowl Blvd, that's well within the adequacy range for a 4-lane at-grade boulevard, with plenty of room for any growth from the development.
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