Unique, Odd, or Interesting Signs aka The good, the bad, and the ugly

[kphoger]

That's an interesting situation to have, why don't they just move the trains to unblock the road?

They do.  Eventually.  But, in between now and then...

[Scott5114]

Spelled out "JUNCTION" is still the standard for signs on a green background. However, the MUTCD specifies these are only supposed to be used when junctioning multiple routes.

[hbelkins]

Spelled out "JUNCTION" is still the standard for signs on a green background. However, the MUTCD specifies these are only supposed to be used when junctioning multiple routes.

I still want to know why it's BY-PASS and not BYPASS.

Virginia sometimes uses the larger first letter in its "To" banners.

[Scott5114]

Probably because that it was more commonly spelled with a hyphen when the first MUTCD was written, usage shifted to drop the hyphen as the word became more common, and the sign was never redrawn to remove the hyphen. May be a suggestion to write in to the next MUTCD, since it would probably mean a wider typeface could be used there, enhancing readability.

I also wonder why there's not a M4-2a BYP banner; seems just as clear as ALT or TEMP. Also, why is the JCT plate's dimensions different than the rest of the banners? (Oklahoma normally uses a plate with the same dimensions as the others.)

[hbelkins]

Probably because that it was more commonly spelled with a hyphen when the first MUTCD was written, usage shifted to drop the hyphen as the word became more common, and the sign was never redrawn to remove the hyphen. May be a suggestion to write in to the next MUTCD, since it would probably mean a wider typeface could be used there, enhancing readability.

I also wonder why there's not a M4-2a BYP banner; seems just as clear as ALT or TEMP. Also, why is the JCT plate's dimensions different than the rest of the banners? (Oklahoma normally uses a plate with the same dimensions as the others.)

Ohio also uses a banner of similar size to directional banners.

[CoreySamson]

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[cjk374]

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Yeah...the dumbest symbol sign they could have ever dreamed up for "Tourist Information (Center). I saw one somewhere one day with an arrow under it. I said to myself, "Hey, if you don't know what's in that direction, I can't help you."

[Big John]

^^ That has been changed to INFO in MUTCD.

[amroad17]

I can't remember where the discussion was concerning the old JUNCTION banners but I drove past a JUNCTION I-64 on an LGS on US 258 NB in Hampton, VA earlier today.

Image from GSV



moto g(7) optimo (XT1952DL)

My earliest memories of trips through Virginia was that they did not use the standard "JCT" signs prior to intersections, just advance turn signs, but they used "JUNCTION" banners approaching interstate interchanges. Up until a few years ago, there was one of those signs at the eastern end of Alternate US 58 at I-81 in Abingdon.

Yeah I remember when I first came to VA there were many JUNCTION banners at interstate junctions, now it's just JCT. I was surprised when I saw that US 258 LGS, I'm not sure if it was VDOT or Hampton who installed that.

I don't recall seeing any kind of JCT banner at a regular intersection in VA either.

Virginia has never used JCT banners before state/US highway intersections.  The signage is (or used to be--some things have changed since the 1980's) an advance sign such as this: https://goo.gl/maps/a9X76GnQ4oJfPP5R9   Then at the intersection there is this: https://goo.gl/maps/TasyZid4iiwZB33y5

If anyone cares to, you may look along US 58 there at the Airline/Frederick intersection in Portsmouth, VA to see how the signage is for US 17 being the cross street.

[fillup420]

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reminds me of this one i saw the other day

https://www.google.com/maps/@36.0064451,-78.9213576,3a,49.1y,153.36h,87.22t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfqVAyO7h9ir7H7fqg0wxWg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

[tylert120]

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reminds me of this one i saw the other day

https://www.google.com/maps/@36.0064451,-78.9213576,3a,49.1y,153.36h,87.22t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfqVAyO7h9ir7H7fqg0wxWg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

That is terrible placement. To the average motorist that looks like the speed limit is maybe 35mph ahead?

For this reason, in Pennsylvania, no other signage is allowed to be on a speed limit or stop sign posts anymore, to avoid confusion. This even includes small SR segment markers.

[Ben114]

I've never seen it as "RTE #" outside of a VMS.

[hbelkins]

I've never seen it as "RTE #" outside of a VMS.

Virginia labels its secondaries as "Rte. XXX" along with the road name at overpasses and underpasses on interstate highways.

[plain]

I can't remember where the discussion was concerning the old JUNCTION banners but I drove past a JUNCTION I-64 on an LGS on US 258 NB in Hampton, VA earlier today.

Image from GSV



moto g(7) optimo (XT1952DL)

My earliest memories of trips through Virginia was that they did not use the standard "JCT" signs prior to intersections, just advance turn signs, but they used "JUNCTION" banners approaching interstate interchanges. Up until a few years ago, there was one of those signs at the eastern end of Alternate US 58 at I-81 in Abingdon.

Yeah I remember when I first came to VA there were many JUNCTION banners at interstate junctions, now it's just JCT. I was surprised when I saw that US 258 LGS, I'm not sure if it was VDOT or Hampton who installed that.

I don't recall seeing any kind of JCT banner at a regular intersection in VA either.

Virginia has never used JCT banners before state/US highway intersections.  The signage is (or used to be--some things have changed since the 1980's) an advance sign such as this: https://goo.gl/maps/a9X76GnQ4oJfPP5R9   Then at the intersection there is this: https://goo.gl/maps/TasyZid4iiwZB33y5

If anyone cares to, you may look along US 58 there at the Airline/Frederick intersection in Portsmouth, VA to see how the signage is for US 17 being the cross street.

It actually depends on the circumstances. VDOT sometimes will do it if the US/State Hwy is a freeway. Here's one on VA 10 NB approaching VA 288

image from GSV



moto g(7) optimo (XT1952DL)

[STLmapboy]

Check out this colorful US route shield near Salisbury, MD.

[plain]

Check out this colorful US route shield near Salisbury, MD.

MD has a funny way of signing their business routes... and I like it lmao.

Also, I just realized in my previous post on this thread I said VA 10 NB when I should've said WB.

[WillWeaverRVA]

I can't remember where the discussion was concerning the old JUNCTION banners but I drove past a JUNCTION I-64 on an LGS on US 258 NB in Hampton, VA earlier today.

Image from GSV



moto g(7) optimo (XT1952DL)

My earliest memories of trips through Virginia was that they did not use the standard "JCT" signs prior to intersections, just advance turn signs, but they used "JUNCTION" banners approaching interstate interchanges. Up until a few years ago, there was one of those signs at the eastern end of Alternate US 58 at I-81 in Abingdon.

Yeah I remember when I first came to VA there were many JUNCTION banners at interstate junctions, now it's just JCT. I was surprised when I saw that US 258 LGS, I'm not sure if it was VDOT or Hampton who installed that.

I don't recall seeing any kind of JCT banner at a regular intersection in VA either.

Virginia has never used JCT banners before state/US highway intersections.  The signage is (or used to be--some things have changed since the 1980's) an advance sign such as this: https://goo.gl/maps/a9X76GnQ4oJfPP5R9   Then at the intersection there is this: https://goo.gl/maps/TasyZid4iiwZB33y5

If anyone cares to, you may look along US 58 there at the Airline/Frederick intersection in Portsmouth, VA to see how the signage is for US 17 being the cross street.

It actually depends on the circumstances. VDOT sometimes will do it if the US/State Hwy is a freeway. Here's one on VA 10 NB approaching VA 288

image from GSV



moto g(7) optimo (XT1952DL)

VDOT also posts JCT banners for secondary routes at times, such as for Chesterfield County SR 653 on US 360.

Oddly, the Richmond District sometimes uses them for relatively minor routes, such as Chesterfield County SR 743 here.

[plain]

I can't remember where the discussion was concerning the old JUNCTION banners but I drove past a JUNCTION I-64 on an LGS on US 258 NB in Hampton, VA earlier today.

Image from GSV



moto g(7) optimo (XT1952DL)

My earliest memories of trips through Virginia was that they did not use the standard "JCT" signs prior to intersections, just advance turn signs, but they used "JUNCTION" banners approaching interstate interchanges. Up until a few years ago, there was one of those signs at the eastern end of Alternate US 58 at I-81 in Abingdon.

Yeah I remember when I first came to VA there were many JUNCTION banners at interstate junctions, now it's just JCT. I was surprised when I saw that US 258 LGS, I'm not sure if it was VDOT or Hampton who installed that.

I don't recall seeing any kind of JCT banner at a regular intersection in VA either.

Virginia has never used JCT banners before state/US highway intersections.  The signage is (or used to be--some things have changed since the 1980's) an advance sign such as this: https://goo.gl/maps/a9X76GnQ4oJfPP5R9   Then at the intersection there is this: https://goo.gl/maps/TasyZid4iiwZB33y5

If anyone cares to, you may look along US 58 there at the Airline/Frederick intersection in Portsmouth, VA to see how the signage is for US 17 being the cross street.

It actually depends on the circumstances. VDOT sometimes will do it if the US/State Hwy is a freeway. Here's one on VA 10 NB approaching VA 288

image from GSV



moto g(7) optimo (XT1952DL)

VDOT also posts JCT banners for secondary routes at times, such as for Chesterfield County SR 653 on US 360.

Oddly, the Richmond District sometimes uses them for relatively minor routes, such as Chesterfield County SR 743 here.

Wow.. I've never noticed those before. It's crazy that they'll do it for secondary routes at a regular intersection but not primary

[1995hoo]

I was screwing around with Street View and I found a sign showing a snowmobile lane....as you approach a US border crossing from Quebec. I've seen plenty of snowmobile crossing signs, but never one in this context. I found myself wondering how many people actually use snowmobiles to cross the border there.

https://goo.gl/maps/xcGCf72xd7RFGfrD8

[ari-s-drives]

Here's a diagrammatic sign (if you can classify it as that) on a surface street

[amroad17]

I can't remember where the discussion was concerning the old JUNCTION banners but I drove past a JUNCTION I-64 on an LGS on US 258 NB in Hampton, VA earlier today.

Image from GSV



moto g(7) optimo (XT1952DL)

My earliest memories of trips through Virginia was that they did not use the standard "JCT" signs prior to intersections, just advance turn signs, but they used "JUNCTION" banners approaching interstate interchanges. Up until a few years ago, there was one of those signs at the eastern end of Alternate US 58 at I-81 in Abingdon.

Yeah I remember when I first came to VA there were many JUNCTION banners at interstate junctions, now it's just JCT. I was surprised when I saw that US 258 LGS, I'm not sure if it was VDOT or Hampton who installed that.

I don't recall seeing any kind of JCT banner at a regular intersection in VA either.

Virginia has never used JCT banners before state/US highway intersections.  The signage is (or used to be--some things have changed since the 1980's) an advance sign such as this: https://goo.gl/maps/a9X76GnQ4oJfPP5R9   Then at the intersection there is this: https://goo.gl/maps/TasyZid4iiwZB33y5

If anyone cares to, you may look along US 58 there at the Airline/Frederick intersection in Portsmouth, VA to see how the signage is for US 17 being the cross street.

It actually depends on the circumstances. VDOT sometimes will do it if the US/State Hwy is a freeway. Here's one on VA 10 NB approaching VA 288

image from GSV



moto g(7) optimo (XT1952DL)

VDOT also posts JCT banners for secondary routes at times, such as for Chesterfield County SR 653 on US 360.

Oddly, the Richmond District sometimes uses them for relatively minor routes, such as Chesterfield County SR 743 here.

Wow.. I've never noticed those before. It's crazy that they'll do it for secondary routes at a regular intersection but not primary

Correct me if I am wrong, but after reading these few posts about seeing JCT (secondary highway) I seem to recall back in the 1970's and 1980's, mostly along US 17 from the Churchland area to the James River Bridge (not the only places in Virginia I noticed this, but a section of highway fairly close to where I used to live), that there were JUNCTION signs (yes, fully spelled out) posted before every secondary route along the way.  I am not sure if and when some VDOT Districts may have stopped this practice or started to use the abbreviated JCT signs in place of these "classic" postings.

[Mapmikey]

Correct me if I am wrong, but after reading these few posts about seeing JCT (secondary highway) I seem to recall back in the 1970's and 1980's, mostly along US 17 from the Churchland area to the James River Bridge (not the only places in Virginia I noticed this, but a section of highway fairly close to where I used to live), that there were JUNCTION signs (yes, fully spelled out) posted before every secondary route along the way.  I am not sure if and when some VDOT Districts may have stopped this practice or started to use the abbreviated JCT signs in place of these "classic" postings.

Yes, "JUNCTION" was in use statewide at one point.

When I lived in the Tidewater area in 1991-93 there were still a couple of these floating around - Diamond Springs Rd approaching US 60 had one, there was a SR 615 JUNCTION sign on US 58 Bus in Virginia Beach and Atlantic Ave SB at US 58 had one.

Here is one that was still up last time I checked on it (a few years back now).  This photo is from 2006 and is on SR 601 in Gloucester County.  This posting may go back to when this was still part of VA 198:



This set made it to the early 2010s before being replaced.  Photo by Froggie, 2007:

[roadman65]

https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/50645202811/in/photostream/

Looks like Columbia is only 6 miles on this sign, but the number "1"  to make it "16"  is now faded.

[Bruce]

Special evacuation signs for a specific dam with segregation between modes in Carnation/Tolt, WA:

[ClassicHasClass]

Shouldn't that pedestrian sign indicate running, not walking, if the dam fails?