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Author Topic: US 31 freeway gap in Michigan finally will be filled (well 1 of them anyway)  (Read 72269 times)

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Last I checked US 31 was completed years ago.  So will the old section become US 31 SPUR?
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Last I checked US 31 was completed years ago.  So will the old section become US 31 SPUR?
Completion of the freeway near Benton Harbor, which should have been done decades ago.  They left a 2-and-a-half-mile gap and rerouted the connection to I-94 because they didn't want to disturb some butterflies.
http://www.michiganhighways.org/indepth/US-31Freeway_Berrien.html
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Last I checked US 31 was completed years ago.  So will the old section become US 31 SPUR?
Completion of the freeway near Benton Harbor, which should have been done decades ago.  They left a 2-and-a-half-mile gap and rerouted the connection to I-94 because they didn't want to disturb some butterflies.
http://www.michiganhighways.org/indepth/US-31Freeway_Berrien.html
I know that.  It is unbelievable that so much money is spent of just 2 miles of non controlled access highway that translated into an additional nine miles.
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Last I checked US 31 was completed years ago.  So will the old section become US 31 SPUR?
Completion of the freeway near Benton Harbor, which should have been done decades ago.  They left a 2-and-a-half-mile gap and rerouted the connection to I-94 because they didn't want to disturb some butterflies.
http://www.michiganhighways.org/indepth/US-31Freeway_Berrien.html
I know that.  It is unbelievable that so much money is spent of just 2 miles of non controlled access highway that translated into an additional nine miles.
What are you talking about?  Please start making some sense.
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Last I checked US 31 was completed years ago.  So will the old section become US 31 SPUR?
Completion of the freeway near Benton Harbor, which should have been done decades ago.  They left a 2-and-a-half-mile gap and rerouted the connection to I-94 because they didn't want to disturb some butterflies.
http://www.michiganhighways.org/indepth/US-31Freeway_Berrien.html
I know that.  It is unbelievable that so much money is spent of just 2 miles of non controlled access highway that translated into an additional nine miles.
Huh?
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it's not limited access due to the 94 interchange. but it's good enough because it is unlikely to need a signal in the future. not sure why they didn't just make the main 31 movements limited access. the SB 31 ramp could have been a flyover but i am sure cost is why we got this. picture how 69 swings on and off it's alignment to join i-24 in kentucky. (yes the full interchange is limited access in that example, i am just referring to how the main movements avoid the minor ones)
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^ I’m still trying to understand the 9 additional miles part claimed by Avalanchez71.
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^ I’m still trying to understand the 9 additional miles part claimed by Avalanchez71.

I’m glad you are asking because I thought I was going crazy there.  I know that the revised connection to I-94  is sooner than later to it.  I too was wondering how seven miles got added to it.
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^ Lane miles, perhaps? 2 centerline miles x 4 lanes + 1 mile of ramps = 9 lane miles
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Re: US 31 freeway gap in Michigan finally will be filled (well 1 of them anyway)
« Reply #334 on: November 02, 2022, 09:12:48 AM »

https://wwmt.com/news/local/benton-township-us-31-i-94-construction-michigan-department-transportation-west-berrien-county

U.S. 31 opening this weekend, creating a continuous freeway from U.S. 30 in Plymouth, Indiana, to I-94 in Benton Harbor, Michigan.

While not particularly helpful for my trips between Kalamazoo and Chicagoland, very nice to see the construction wrap up!
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Re: US 31 freeway gap in Michigan finally will be filled (well 1 of them anyway)
« Reply #335 on: November 07, 2022, 05:23:27 PM »

Drove by Benton Harbor yesterday. Signs referencing US-31 at the Napier Avenue exit (Exit 30) on I-94 have been replaced.
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Re: US 31 freeway gap in Michigan finally will be filled (well 1 of them anyway)
« Reply #336 on: November 07, 2022, 07:31:34 PM »

Google Maps has not been updated. Someone keep us posted on when it is updated. Hopefully, it won't be too long (although I wouldn't hold my breath).
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Re: US 31 freeway gap in Michigan finally will be filled (well 1 of them anyway)
« Reply #337 on: November 08, 2022, 02:26:07 AM »

I love reading 13 year old posts.  I wonder what the oldest post on here is.
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Re: US 31 freeway gap in Michigan finally will be filled (well 1 of them anyway)
« Reply #339 on: November 08, 2022, 06:46:24 PM »

Google Maps has not been updated. Someone keep us posted on when it is updated. Hopefully, it won't be too long (although I wouldn't hold my breath).

I wonder how long until MDOT's online mapping tools show the new routing.
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Re: US 31 freeway gap in Michigan finally will be filled (well 1 of them anyway)
« Reply #340 on: November 09, 2022, 06:49:56 AM »

That means waze will show you being off road while driving the new extension. :sombrero:
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Re: US 31 freeway gap in Michigan finally will be filled (well 1 of them anyway)
« Reply #341 on: November 09, 2022, 02:37:45 PM »

Google Maps has not been updated. Someone keep us posted on when it is updated. Hopefully, it won't be too long (although I wouldn't hold my breath).

I wonder how long until MDOT's online mapping tools show the new routing.

It is showing on the mi.gov/drive interactive traffic map.  That also still shows the former Napier Avenue routing as a state trunkline, so I assume it has not been turned back.


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Re: US 31 freeway gap in Michigan finally will be filled (well 1 of them anyway)
« Reply #342 on: November 09, 2022, 02:39:58 PM »

i wonder if it has a new number...
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Re: US 31 freeway gap in Michigan finally will be filled (well 1 of them anyway)
« Reply #343 on: November 09, 2022, 04:51:36 PM »

I love reading 13 year old posts.  I wonder what the oldest post on here is.
It's because moderators merged 2 posts.
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Re: US 31 freeway gap in Michigan finally will be filled (well 1 of them anyway)
« Reply #344 on: November 09, 2022, 06:15:42 PM »

It is showing on the mi.gov/drive interactive traffic map.  That also still shows the former Napier Avenue routing as a state trunkline, so I assume it has not been turned back.



I'm pretty sure that's an ESRI basemap, and the colors have nothing to do with state maintenance.
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Re: US 31 freeway gap in Michigan finally will be filled (well 1 of them anyway)
« Reply #345 on: November 09, 2022, 09:11:57 PM »

It is showing on the mi.gov/drive interactive traffic map.  That also still shows the former Napier Avenue routing as a state trunkline, so I assume it has not been turned back.



I'm pretty sure that's an ESRI basemap, and the colors have nothing to do with state maintenance.

Agreed. Red Arrow Highway on the northern edge of that map used to be US 12, but it was turned back to local control decades ago when I-94 was built there.

It may be a while before Napier Avenue is turned over to local control. MDOT can't force the Berrien County Road Commission to re-assume jurisdiction once the freeway opens, and MDOT will probably have to repave or rebuilt the roadway segment before BCRC agrees to take the road back if recent decommissioning/transfers are any guide. That section of Napier Avenue will end up internally designated "Old US 31" and marked as an unsigned state trunkline on the next edition of the Truck Operator's Map.

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Re: US 31 freeway gap in Michigan finally will be filled (well 1 of them anyway)
« Reply #347 on: November 10, 2022, 04:14:01 PM »

Fritzowl is probably busy planning a new Interstate connection between North America and Europe or Asia; or an Interstate connecting South America with Africa. Maybe he should go smaller, and build an Interstate connecting Australia with New Zealand.
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Re: US 31 freeway gap in Michigan finally will be filled (well 1 of them anyway)
« Reply #349 on: November 22, 2022, 06:16:48 PM »

Last I checked US 31 was completed years ago.  So will the old section become US 31 SPUR?
Completion of the freeway near Benton Harbor, which should have been done decades ago.  They left a 2-and-a-half-mile gap and rerouted the connection to I-94 because they didn't want to disturb some butterflies.
http://www.michiganhighways.org/indepth/US-31Freeway_Berrien.html
I know that.  It is unbelievable that so much money is spent of just 2 miles of non controlled access highway that translated into an additional nine miles.

I suggest you both take some courses in biology.  The butterflies here are likely also an indicator of unique habitat that houses other rare species. 

The rate of species decline is appalling.  Even the American robin’s population is declining rapidly.  Species are interdependent.  There will be a point where once we lose enough species, the jenga tower that is our planet will collapse.  Heaven forbid that a invasive/alien pathogen/predator like the varroa mite or murder hornet succeeds in killing off crop-pollinating honeybees. 

Rerouting a road to preserve a pollinator species seems like a small price to pay. MDOT did the right thing. 
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