DFW Loop 9 Tollway Highway - development updates and news topic

Started by TheBox, June 10, 2021, 10:41:25 PM

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Bobby5280

It overlaps Tater Brown Road from I-35E for about half a mile before diverting Northward on its own path. In Google Earth you have to turn on the Historical Imagery slider and shift to 7/2023 imagery to see the new construction. It is not visible in the default overhead imagery view.


rte66man

Quote from: BJ59 on November 21, 2023, 01:28:23 PM
Quote from: motorola870 on November 21, 2023, 05:34:10 AM
There is also the section of loop 9 from I35E to I45 under construction they have opened a section of this phase starting at the northbound service road and going east. Google streetview on the northbound mainlanes shows it open as of 4 months ago.

Is it labeled Tater Brown Road on Google Maps?
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.5463166,-96.8146757,16.71z?entry=ttu

Yup.

I was impressed with the 1+ mile long bridge at the east end as it approaches I-45.
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BJ59

I noticed all the support beams for that bridge on the way to Houston a while back and didn't know what they were. I did not know those were for the future Loop 9. Very cool

armadillo speedbump

Quote from: BJ59 on November 21, 2023, 01:28:23 PM
Quote from: motorola870 on November 21, 2023, 05:34:10 AM
There is also the section of loop 9 from I35E to I45 under construction they have opened a section of this phase starting at the northbound service road and going east. Google streetview on the northbound mainlanes shows it open as of 4 months ago.

Is it labeled Tater Brown Road on Google Maps?
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.5463166,-96.8146757,16.71z?entry=ttu

Yep.  And if one goes to Google Earth and switches to the latest images (07/23) one can see the entire route from I-35E to I-45 is nearing phase 1 completion, except for the final 2 miles west of I-45.  Those final 2 miles will be entirely on a bridge!  Google Streetview from the west end of that bridge:

https://www.google.com/maps/@32.5545038,-96.6989358,3a,51.4y,72.51h,86.85t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s2pEFEBaXQ3sdijGcBeoNJA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

I-45 end looking west:

https://www.google.com/maps/@32.5608717,-96.6648804,3a,53.8y,273.61h,89.41t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sa7Hft06f1d5Azt0mMmrwaw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3Da7Hft06f1d5Azt0mMmrwaw%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D355.98544%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

MaxConcrete

Bids were opened yesterday for work at I-35E and Loop 9, south of Dallas. The online plans show that most of this work is on I-35E, with minimal work on Loop 9. This job appears to prepare I-35E for the interchange, and defines the configuration and right-of-way for the ultimate Loop 9 main lanes.

http://www.dot.state.tx.us/insdtdot/orgchart/cmd/cserve/bidtab/02013001.htm

County:   ELLIS   Let Date:   02/01/24
Type:   RECONSTRUCT INTERCHANGE   Seq No:   3001
Time:   0 X   Project ID:   F 2024(737)
Highway:   IH 35E   Contract #:   02243001
Length:   0.000   CCSJ:   0442-03-042
Limits:   
From:   IH 35E AT FM 664   Check:   $100,000
To:   & IH 35E AT SL 9   Misc Cost:   
Estimate   $127,632,940.85   % Over/Under   Company
Bidder 1   $146,081,306.28   +14.45%   FLATIRON CONSTRUCTORS, INC.
Bidder 2   $147,149,991.40   +15.29%   WEBBER, LLC
Bidder 3   $147,947,937.56   +15.92%   INDUS ROAD & BRIDGE, INC.
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Bobby5280

$150 million? Just to prep I-35E for a directional interchange? I wonder if that will include the beginnings of any ramps. $150 million would be a lot just to build what will probably be a partial volleyball interchange.

05danper42842

Hopefully they do another bid soon for the interchange at the other end of the road. Might aswell do both interchanges so other loop segments have a starting base to start from. For example loop c can use the interchange as a visual base of how the road should be connected.
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Bobby5280

They have detailed plans for the main lanes and interchanges that will eventually be built. Right now their top concern needs to be corridor preservation. That can be done by merely building a 2-lane road with a swath of empty ROW preserved next to it. Such a thing can be built in a relatively short amount of time for not all that much money. It locks the super highway's ROW in place, protected from jackasses that want to build new things all over it. The initial 2-lane road would eventually be turned into one of two frontage roads. Or it might be one of the two primary roadways if there are no frontage roads on that segment.

Plutonic Panda

Couldn't even purchase the row without needing to build anything?

Bobby5280

If they just purchase the land and leave it vacant that will always leave open the possibility some media whore politician and scumbag real estate developer will pull a fast one and build over that land anyway. Or some progressive activists will insist the vacant property be turned into park land, green space, bicycle paths, etc. Jerks on both sides of the political aisle have no problem sabotaging long term infrastructure plans in return for short term gain.

To preserve a future freeway or toll road corridor properly there at least needs to be a 2-lane road marking the path permanently (with that vacant land secured off to the side). I know even that isn't a guarantee. But if there is at least a road of some type marking the path the general public will anticipate the big highway being built there eventually.

05danper42842

I was using SOAR Imagery and it looks the both bridges are fully paved. Google maps hasn't updated the street view.
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05danper42842

I passed by their 3 days ago by I 35. Hopefully they finish the first phase soon. I wonder how will loop 9 connect with the outer loop at Kaufman since it looks like it won't connect. They might to add a connector or reshape the outer loop Kaufman.
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debragga

Quote from: 05danper42842 on April 29, 2024, 06:41:02 PMI passed by their 3 days ago by I 35. Hopefully they finish the first phase soon. I wonder how will loop 9 connect with the outer loop at Kaufman since it looks like it won't connect. They might to add a connector or reshape the outer loop Kaufman.

Loop 9 is supposed to be pretty far west of the Kaufman Outer Loop. It'll only be in Kaufman County for a few miles around the Combine/Seagoville area and then shift back over into Dallas County again. The Outer Loop will also be north-south but it'll be somewhere between Forney and Terrell.

05danper42842

Loop 9 I-35E ROW Preparations and earthwork have begun since time and about today I drove by and noticed utilities relocation is on full force. Also, Loop 9 Segment C has received a ROD as of Dec 27, 2023. I can't find much information on Segment C. Would be interesting how would it with PGBT East Branch.
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05danper42842

A waze editor told me that loop 9 Corridor B could open as early in November of this year possbily.
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05danper42842

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Based on new updated satellite imagery that was released this week. Looks like loop 9 Segment C will be much more costly due to housing development growing at a fast rate near US 175. You can use this map link to view the alignment in google maps(Note the alignments may be incorrect since the gis alignments were obtained for the outer loop way before they finalized the alignments. Not alot information has been given out about that segment of loop 9. They received a ROD for that segment last year or this year.

https://www.txdot.gov/loop9/segment-c.html

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=1XEjsYNy96OGVeqOuq2_1nKP2yUSJVb0&usp=sharing
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MaxConcrete

Quote from: 05danper42842 on October 23, 2024, 06:59:41 PMBased on new updated satellite imagery that was released this week. Looks like loop 9 Segment C will be much more costly due to housing development growing at a fast rate near US 175. You can use this map link to view the alignment in google maps. Not alot information has been given out about that segment of loop 9. They received a ROD for that segment last year or this year.

https://www.txdot.gov/loop9/segment-c.html

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=1XEjsYNy96OGVeqOuq2_1nKP2yUSJVb0&usp=sharing

That "Future Road Projects" map is not consistent with the most recent long term planning map.

See page 67 in this document.

The northeast section of the Collin County Outer Loop, between SH 121 and US 380, is not shown in the NCTCOG map. Instead, the east Outer Loop has a northern terminus at the US 380 freeway.

I don't know if the northeast Outer Loop is dead or just temporarily removed, perhaps to keep the 2045 mobility plan "financially constrained".
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CoreySamson

#42
NEWS FLASH!

As of today, we have Loop 9 shields in the wild at the Loop 9/I-45 interchange!


Location of sign: https://maps.app.goo.gl/2JQN2R5Dz9uvyZcZ6


Location of sign: https://maps.app.goo.gl/vQUsqxABMXgobdGt6

It is also signed on BGSs. Given that it looks basically ready, I wouldn't be surprised if it opens very soon. I don't have a picture of this, but if you turn your head to the left at the location of the second picture to look at the accompanying street blade, the street blade seems to suggest that Loop 9 ends at I-45 Business and not at I-45. Here's my horrible attempt to recreate it:

| <== Malloy Bridge Road |
|          Loop 9 ==>            |
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05danper42842

Yes is supposed to end at I-45 Business route. According to the Loop 9 website is supposed to be open to traffic in 2025. I don't know what is holding them back from opening?
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05danper42842

Loop 9 Corridor B Phase 1 is now complete and fully open to the public as of today!  :clap:
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