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Re: I-69 in KY
« Reply #650 on: June 23, 2016, 04:36:03 PM »

The only other non-Interstate-conversions I can think of have been done on the Cumberland at US 127 and the WK at KY 259. That does not include the KY 11/Mountain Parkway interchange, where the toll booths were on the bridge over the crossroads and the whole interchange had to be reconstructed to remove the toll booths.
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Re: I-69 in KY
« Reply #651 on: November 08, 2016, 12:19:18 PM »

Some observations from driving I-69 between Henderson and Mayfield recently.

Construction in full swing on interchange with 1-24 at Benton.

Screw up on BGS southbound approaching I-69 split with Pennyrile Parkway. The BGS for Fulton has a "Y" arrow, basically meaning you can go either way at the split. I think they are trying to say either lane works, but that should be (2) arrows pointing to the right, not a "Y"

South of Madisonville, there is a mileage sign for Providence. This makes no sense. Providence isn't anywhere near the road. Southbound motorists who are traveling to Providence would have exited at the 1st Madisonville exit, and taken 41-A over to Providence...about 5 miles north of this sign. At the point of the sign, you would continue south and then west on I-69 to Dawson Springs, then north on a very narrow and curvy state highway for about 20 miles. Completely out of the way. I find it odd that there is mileage signs for off-route places like Providence and Morganfield, but not a one for Evansville, where most of the traffic is headed.
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Re: I-69 in KY
« Reply #652 on: November 08, 2016, 12:28:11 PM »

Screw up on BGS southbound approaching I-69 split with Pennyrile Parkway. The BGS for Fulton has a "Y" arrow, basically meaning you can go either way at the split. I think they are trying to say either lane works, but that should be (2) arrows pointing to the right, not a "Y"

Here are some photos of the signs in question. The first is two miles out and the second is at the split between the parkways and I-69 South.



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Re: I-69 in KY
« Reply #653 on: November 08, 2016, 01:59:03 PM »

Thanks for the pics.
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Re: I-69 in KY
« Reply #654 on: November 08, 2016, 04:19:02 PM »

Screw up on BGS southbound approaching I-69 split with Pennyrile Parkway. The BGS for Fulton has a "Y" arrow, basically meaning you can go either way at the split. I think they are trying to say either lane works, but that should be (2) arrows pointing to the right, not a "Y"

Here are some photos of the signs in question. The first is two miles out and the second is at the split between the parkways and I-69 South.




Is the parkways with I-69 signed just I-69, or I-69 and Parkway? (Example being I-69 consigned with Pennyrile Parkway, or is the Pennyrile signed former?)
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Re: I-69 in KY
« Reply #655 on: November 08, 2016, 04:53:48 PM »

Screw up on BGS southbound approaching I-69 split with Pennyrile Parkway. The BGS for Fulton has a "Y" arrow, basically meaning you can go either way at the split. I think they are trying to say either lane works, but that should be (2) arrows pointing to the right, not a "Y"

Here are some photos of the signs in question. The first is two miles out and the second is at the split between the parkways and I-69 South.




Is the parkways with I-69 signed just I-69, or I-69 and Parkway? (Example being I-69 consigned with Pennyrile Parkway, or is the Pennyrile signed former?)

pretty sure it's just 69 now.
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Re: I-69 in KY
« Reply #656 on: November 08, 2016, 07:08:11 PM »

Why is there even an APL sign 2 miles from the interchange?  This, as it is shown, can be very misleading to a motorist.  This overhead should only have the left part of the sign on it with no arrows and no sign for I-69.  The second photo of signs is fine the way it is because of the extra lane appearing at the sign.  The 1-mile advance is probably wrong also based on what I can see in the first photo.  Both the 1-mile and 2-mile advance BGS's should only have the EXITS 106B-A info on it to reduce motorist confusion or have a separate BGS for I-69 with the 1-mile advance BGS.

Another thought is to have the APL signs look like the ones at the interchange, having a left-curved arrow, a "Y" arrow underneath the vertical line, and a right-curved arrow.  This would make a lot of sense and, I believe, should reduce motorist confusion.

It would be rather neat if Memphis was listed underneath Fulton.  :D  I know, I-69 probably will not reach Memphis for at least 15-20 years (if we are lucky), however, this is the way to get to Memphis if you live in Evansville, SW Indiana, or western Kentucky.  Why not?
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Re: I-69 in KY
« Reply #657 on: November 08, 2016, 10:30:47 PM »

Screw up on BGS southbound approaching I-69 split with Pennyrile Parkway. The BGS for Fulton has a "Y" arrow, basically meaning you can go either way at the split. I think they are trying to say either lane works, but that should be (2) arrows pointing to the right, not a "Y"

Here are some photos of the signs in question. The first is two miles out and the second is at the split between the parkways and I-69 South.




Is the parkways with I-69 signed just I-69, or I-69 and Parkway? (Example being I-69 consigned with Pennyrile Parkway, or is the Pennyrile signed former?)

At one time, the westernmost part of the WK had "North (or South) I-69/Formerly WK Parkway" signs. I didn't drive far enough west on the WK when I was there to see the signage.

No mention of the Pennyrile north of the WK. And the approaches on both parkways have "Parkway Ends 1 Mile" signs.

I have pics on the Millennium Highway Facebook page but haven't gotten them uploaded to Flickr or to my site yet.
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Re: I-69 in KY
« Reply #658 on: November 09, 2016, 02:02:33 AM »

I don't believe that the 2 mile advance sign is confusing. It correctly indicates which lane you need to be in at that point for I-69 and that you can be in either lane for the parkways at that point.

The major problem with stipple signs (other than legibility) is that they were generally based on the gore point; if the roadway picks up lanes or loses lanes between the advance sign and the interchange, the driver has no way of knowing how the lane they're in now corresponds to the stipples - specifically, does the new lane show up on the left or right? This signing approach doesn't require the driver to know that - you get in the appropriate lane now based on the overhead and you're fine, although you can also move over a lane when the new one shows up.
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Re: I-69 in KY
« Reply #659 on: November 09, 2016, 07:19:55 AM »

It would be rather neat if Memphis was listed underneath Fulton.  :D  I know, I-69 probably will not reach Memphis for at least 15-20 years (if we are lucky), however, this is the way to get to Memphis if you live in Evansville, SW Indiana, or western Kentucky.  Why not?

Memphis would still be a logical control city since the Parkway dumps you onto US 51, which also has a control city of Memphis once you get to Tennessee.
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Re: I-69 in KY
« Reply #660 on: November 09, 2016, 10:15:05 AM »

Screw up on BGS southbound approaching I-69 split with Pennyrile Parkway. The BGS for Fulton has a "Y" arrow, basically meaning you can go either way at the split. I think they are trying to say either lane works, but that should be (2) arrows pointing to the right, not a "Y"

Here are some photos of the signs in question. The first is two miles out and the second is at the split between the parkways and I-69 South.




Is the parkways with I-69 signed just I-69, or I-69 and Parkway? (Example being I-69 consigned with Pennyrile Parkway, or is the Pennyrile signed former?)
At one time, the westernmost part of the WK had "North (or South) I-69/Formerly WK Parkway" signs. I didn't drive far enough west on the WK when I was there to see the signage.

No mention of the Pennyrile north of the WK. And the approaches on both parkways have "Parkway Ends 1 Mile" signs.

I have pics on the Millennium Highway Facebook page but haven't gotten them uploaded to Flickr or to my site yet.
I've personally kept myself up to date on I-69 in Indiana, as I live right next to the proposed route. I've relied on other sources to keep me updated on other sections. Thanks!
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Re: I-69 in KY
« Reply #661 on: November 09, 2016, 02:50:05 PM »

It looks as if there is room for another control city under "Fulton" maybe in time (15-20 years) Memphis could easily be added.
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Re: I-69 in KY
« Reply #662 on: November 09, 2016, 04:03:44 PM »

I don't believe that the 2 mile advance sign is confusing. It correctly indicates which lane you need to be in at that point for I-69 and that you can be in either lane for the parkways at that point.

I think the biggest issue with the 2mi advance sign, and it took me a minute or 2 to figure out why I thought there was an issue, is that the vertical dividing line doesn't split the "Y" arrow.  In a sense, it seems one could assume, that *somehow* if you want to use I-69 South, you can veer either left or right in the right lane.
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Re: I-69 in KY
« Reply #663 on: November 10, 2016, 08:41:18 PM »

Any mention of I-69 along Purchase Parkway and I-24 between Tennessee and I-24's first interchange east of Purchase Parkway (I think it's US 62)
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Re: I-69 in KY
« Reply #664 on: November 10, 2016, 10:00:06 PM »

I-69 is fully signed along I-24 between the WK and Purchase parkways.
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Re: I-69 in KY
« Reply #665 on: November 11, 2016, 08:40:29 AM »

I-69 is fully signed along I-24 between the WK and Purchase parkways.
I know, is there any End I-69 shields and any mention of I-69 along Purchase Parkways?
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Re: I-69 in KY
« Reply #666 on: November 11, 2016, 07:17:17 PM »

I-69 is fully signed along I-24 between the WK and Purchase parkways.
I know, is there any End I-69 shields and any mention of I-69 along Purchase Parkways?

There used to be an "End I-69" sign at the Purchase Parkway/I-24 interchange (westbound on 24) and several "Future I-69 corridor" signs on the Purchase south of Mayfield.
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« Reply #667 on: November 14, 2016, 05:07:03 PM »

I-69 is fully signed along I-24 between the WK and Purchase parkways.
I know, is there any End I-69 shields and any mention of I-69 along Purchase Parkways?

There used to be an "End I-69" sign at the Purchase Parkway/I-24 interchange (westbound on 24) and several "Future I-69 corridor" signs on the Purchase south of Mayfield.

yep, the one on WB 24 is still there as of 2 weeks ago
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Re: I-69 in KY
« Reply #668 on: January 12, 2017, 08:36:47 AM »

The reconstruction of the Exit 43 interchange with KY 343 at Benton, KY was opened to traffic on the new ramps last December.  It is now a diamond interchange.

http://www.marshallcountydaily.com/2016/12/12/purchase-pkwyky-348-exit-43-interchange-at-benton-expected-to-open-by-weeks-end/

Final pavement will be laid in the spring.

One step closer.
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« Reply #669 on: January 15, 2017, 07:33:20 PM »

The reconstruction of the Exit 43 interchange with KY 343 at Benton, KY was opened to traffic on the new ramps last December.  It is now a diamond interchange.

http://www.marshallcountydaily.com/2016/12/12/purchase-pkwyky-348-exit-43-interchange-at-benton-expected-to-open-by-weeks-end/

Final pavement will be laid in the spring.

One step closer.

Any dates on the same exit type remediation needed at Wingo?
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« Reply #670 on: January 16, 2017, 09:31:42 AM »

The reconstruction of the Exit 43 interchange with KY 343 at Benton, KY was opened to traffic on the new ramps last December.  It is now a diamond interchange.

http://www.marshallcountydaily.com/2016/12/12/purchase-pkwyky-348-exit-43-interchange-at-benton-expected-to-open-by-weeks-end/

Final pavement will be laid in the spring.

One step closer.

Any dates on the same exit type remediation needed at Wingo?

Not sure, I had a REALLY slow day at work and was digging through Google looking for any updates on I-69 in Kentucky and found that article.

Google maps from that interchange is from 2012 both on 69 and KY 339.

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« Reply #671 on: February 03, 2017, 03:10:44 PM »

Anyone know if the Purchase Parkway is officially Interstate 69? If not, is there any upgrades underway?
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« Reply #672 on: February 03, 2017, 04:04:52 PM »

Anyone know if the Purchase Parkway is officially Interstate 69? If not, is there any upgrades underway?

No, it isn't a part of I-69 yet. And yes, there is construction. The I-24 interchange is being rebuilt to provide a high-speed movement to stay on 69, one of the old toll booth interchanges has been rebuilt, and the southern end of the Mayfield bypass (ramp to US 45) is being rebuilt.

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Re: I-69 in KY
« Reply #673 on: February 04, 2017, 12:11:21 PM »

Anyone know if the Purchase Parkway is officially Interstate 69? If not, is there any upgrades underway?

No, it isn't a part of I-69 yet. And yes, there is construction. The I-24 interchange is being rebuilt to provide a high-speed movement to stay on 69, one of the old toll booth interchanges has been rebuilt, and the southern end of the Mayfield bypass (ramp to US 45) is being rebuilt.



Before I-69 signs can be added to the Purchase Parkway, there's still the last remaining "tollbooth" style interchange at Wingo that needs to be reconstructed, and upgrades to the mainline between Mayfield and Fulton that need to be accomplished (e.g., cable barriers, lengthening merge lanes at interchanges, lowering the roadway below overpasses to increase clearance, etc.).  KYTC lists in its latest 6-Year Road Plan these projects being completed in the 2020-2021 timeframe, which would be around the same time it, along with TDOT, plans to start reconfiguration of the South Fulton interchange to extend I-69 into Tennessee.
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Re: I-69 in KY
« Reply #674 on: February 06, 2017, 01:13:51 PM »

Kentucky U.S. Senator Rand Paul has introduced a proposed amendment, SA 3967, to SA 3896 to House Appropriations Bill H.R. 2777 that designates the Edward T. Breathitt Parkway from I-24 to I-69 as I-169

I don't know if the legislation has passed (I don't think so), but a state representative is making sure people hear about I-169:

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After working hard for a few weeks, a representative and senator stopped by Tuesday at the Hopkinsville Rotary Club’s weekly lunch to give them an update on the work they’ve done.
State Rep. Walker Thomas informed the Rotarians his big goal is to make Interstate 169 happen. He explained it doesn’t make sense to not have the best way to Nashville.
Former Mayor Dan Kemp asked how soon this would happen. Westerfield responded saying “someday.” Thomas said he is working to make Congress and the other levels of legislature aware of the project.
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