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For the sake of equal comparison to the situation we're talking about, filter that list of examples to just the ones where:- only 1 interstate route uses the interchange - said interstate is a 2di that does not terminate at the interchange- the through routing of said interstate changes freeways at the interchange, with one direction of travel needing to use a loop ramp to stay on said interstate
Kentucky Transportation officials say they're hopeful the Pennyrile Parkway will officially become I-69 sooner than you think. Officials say the I-69 signs could go up as soon as two years from now.Several exit upgrades are on the governor's six year highway plan. Work has already started at the intersection of the Pennyrile and Western Kentucky Parkway just south of Madisonville."They don't have to have these projects completed to get commitment to hang the shields up," said Brad Schneider of Kyndle. "The 55 miles of the Western Kentucky Parkway that's already shielded as I-69, not all the improvements were done before federal highways allowed Kentucky to put the shields up."Officials say more than $160 million will be spent this year on several I-69 upgrades in Henderson County, Webster County, and Hancock County.
I realise that many of the same points were made while I was compiling this post...Quote from: Buck87 on January 29, 2014, 10:28:35 AMFor the sake of equal comparison to the situation we're talking about, filter that list of examples to just the ones where:- only 1 interstate route uses the interchange - said interstate is a 2di that does not terminate at the interchange- the through routing of said interstate changes freeways at the interchange, with one direction of travel needing to use a loop ramp to stay on said interstate I-55 in Memphis.However, especially given the nature of Kentucky's Parkways (and the looming presence of future I-66), your first point isn't great for comparisons. There's little reason why the other arms of the cloverleaf at Nortonville aren't interstates, other than history. If Kentucky got AASHTO & FHWA approval for I-66, or signed the bottom half of the Pennyrile as I-x69 or I-x24, surely then the cloverleaf's loop ramps wouldn't matter.
It's not like there's no precedent. Millions of folks have driven off an uncompleted 95 onto a numberless route into NJ for years without ever making a turn. The through routing of the NJ Turnpike will continue on a non-Interstate even once the 95 mess is sorted out and that route exits the Turnpike. Did I edit this correctly? ~S
Quote from: Pete from Boston on February 27, 2014, 09:15:15 AMIt's not like there's no precedent. Millions of folks have driven off an uncompleted 95 onto a numberless route into NJ for years without ever making a turn. The through routing of the NJ Turnpike will continue on a non-Interstate even once the 95 mess is sorted out and that route exits the Turnpike. Did I edit this correctly? ~SI think so. I'm not sure what I actually submitted but this reads to say what I meant to.
Quote from: Pete from Boston on March 01, 2014, 01:16:49 AMQuote from: Pete from Boston on February 27, 2014, 09:15:15 AMIt's not like there's no precedent. Millions of folks have driven off an uncompleted 95 onto a numberless route into NJ for years without ever making a turn. The through routing of the NJ Turnpike will continue on a non-Interstate even once the 95 mess is sorted out and that route exits the Turnpike. Did I edit this correctly? ~SI think so. I'm not sure what I actually submitted but this reads to say what I meant to. You had two posts, both had the same first sentence, but each had a different second sentence, so I just amalgamated them into a paragraph.
I realise that many of the same points were made while I was compiling this post...Quote from: Buck87 on January 29, 2014, 10:28:35 AMFor the sake of equal comparison to the situation we're talking about, filter that list of examples to just the ones where:- only 1 interstate route uses the interchange - said interstate is a 2di that does not terminate at the interchange- the through routing of said interstate changes freeways at the interchange, with one direction of travel needing to use a loop ramp to stay on said interstate I-55 in Memphis.
Quote from: english si on January 29, 2014, 11:44:03 AMI realise that many of the same points were made while I was compiling this post...Quote from: Buck87 on January 29, 2014, 10:28:35 AMFor the sake of equal comparison to the situation we're talking about, filter that list of examples to just the ones where:- only 1 interstate route uses the interchange - said interstate is a 2di that does not terminate at the interchange- the through routing of said interstate changes freeways at the interchange, with one direction of travel needing to use a loop ramp to stay on said interstate I-55 in Memphis.Apparently, TnDOT doesn't see it your way regarding I-55 in Memphis.http://www.tdot.state.tn.us/i55/default.htm (I-55/Riverside Dr./E. E. Crump Interchange Upgrade)Requiring major Interstate traffic to be forced to negotiate single-lane loops hardly counts as "feasible" in my book.
Apparently, TnDOT doesn't see it your way regarding I-55 in Memphis.
Requiring major Interstate traffic to be forced to negotiate single-lane loops hardly counts as "feasible" in my book.
Mississippi disagrees wrt I-69 at I-55.
Quote from: NE2 on March 02, 2014, 03:27:37 PMMississippi disagrees wrt I-69 at I-55.I-55 has C/D lanes and the interchange is much newer (with, I believe, less tight ramps)
Quote from: Anthony_JK on March 02, 2014, 09:28:20 AMApparently, TnDOT doesn't see it your way regarding I-55 in Memphis.really? I-55 is incomplete due to that junction?They are in agreement with me - crappy TOTSOs, while they should be sorted eventually, should not be barriers to Interstate designations going through the interchange, contra KDOT...QuoteRequiring major Interstate traffic to be forced to negotiate single-lane loops hardly counts as "feasible" in my book.suggest you look up the word "feasible". You meant "sensible".and arguably for the junction in KY, it is sensible, given that traffic volumes are light, turning traffic small and the money can be put to better use currently, like helping to pay for the Bridge over the Ohio that would finish the I-69 corridor in Kentucky to freeway-standard, even if some things aren't quite Interstate standard, and some loop ramps are needed to follow the route.
Unless something totally unforeseen happens, even with the signing of I-69 and the construction of a direct ramp, the majority of the through traffic eastbound on the WK Parkway is going to stay on the WK and not exit onto the northbound Pennyrile.
Do you know if that is factual? I am not picking at you, but my guess is that now, about the same number of people exit northbound as go straight on the WK, especially in the warmer months. A lot of people from Evansville-Henderson-Owensboro hang out at the lakes. There really isn't anything sizeable on the WK, unless you are considering traffic that would eventually end up in Louisville or Lexington, which I can't think is that sizeable of a traffic count. I also believe that once the interstate is designated and the ramps reconfigured, the majority of traffic on the Pennyrile/69 section will have come from the Pennyrile South section and not the WK/69. Evansville-Hopkinsville-Nashville will still be a busier route than Evansville-Memphis.
Traffic ADVISORYA contractor for the Kentucky Transportation Cabinet (KYTC) is continuing to ramp up work to upgrade the Interstate 69 Interchange with the Breathitt-Pennyrile Parkway and the Wendell Ford-Western Kentucky Parkway south of Madisonville in Hopkins County. To facilitate this increased level of activity the contractor plans to restrict traffic to one lane in each direction running along the Pennyrile Parkway from mile point 34.3 to mile point 35.1 starting next week.This lane restriction with two-way traffic running on the southbound lanes will include a 15 ft. MAXIMUM LOAD WIDTH. There will be a strictly enforced 55 mile per hour speed limit in this work zone with an enhanced enforcement presence.Motorists who regularly travel through the I-69/Pennyrile Pkwy/Western Kentucky Pkwy Interchange south of Madisonville may have already noticed construction work on crossovers in this work zone. Once those crossovers are completed, all traffic will move to the southbound lanes with two-way traffic. The contractor plans to use a median barrier wall along this restricted section for about 8/10ths of a mile.The $29 million design-build contract was awarded to the Rogers Group, Inc., and QK4 Inc., with an expected completion date in May of 2015.Kentucky now has 55 miles of I-69. The route follows I-24 for 17 miles from The Julian Carroll-Purchase Parkway at Calvert City to Eddyville. I-69 then runs for 38 miles along the former Wendell Ford-Western Kentucky Parkway from Eddyville to the Pennyrile Parkway near Madisonville.The existing I-69/Pennyrile Parkway cloverleaf requires motorists to slow to about 45 miles per hour to negotiate the ramps through the interchange. The new arrangement will allow motorists to make the transition between the west and north legs of the interchange at normal highway speeds.The interchange project in Hopkins County is among about 10 major projects scheduled over the next 2 to 3 years aimed at extended I-69 northward along the Pennyrile toward Henderson and southward along the Purchase Parkway toward Fulton. I-69 will eventually cover about 150 miles through Kentucky.
They're getting ready to do a traffic shift on the Pennyrile to accommodate the reconstruction of the interchange.https://www.facebook.com/KYTCDistrict2/posts/681271918611458?stream_ref=10QuoteTraffic ADVISORYA contractor for the Kentucky Transportation Cabinet (KYTC) is continuing to ramp up work to upgrade the Interstate 69 Interchange with the Breathitt-Pennyrile Parkway and the Wendell Ford-Western Kentucky Parkway south of Madisonville in Hopkins County. To facilitate this increased level of activity the contractor plans to restrict traffic to one lane in each direction running along the Pennyrile Parkway from mile point 34.3 to mile point 35.1 starting next week.This lane restriction with two-way traffic running on the southbound lanes will include a 15 ft. MAXIMUM LOAD WIDTH. There will be a strictly enforced 55 mile per hour speed limit in this work zone with an enhanced enforcement presence.Motorists who regularly travel through the I-69/Pennyrile Pkwy/Western Kentucky Pkwy Interchange south of Madisonville may have already noticed construction work on crossovers in this work zone. Once those crossovers are completed, all traffic will move to the southbound lanes with two-way traffic. The contractor plans to use a median barrier wall along this restricted section for about 8/10ths of a mile.The $29 million design-build contract was awarded to the Rogers Group, Inc., and QK4 Inc., with an expected completion date in May of 2015.Kentucky now has 55 miles of I-69. The route follows I-24 for 17 miles from The Julian Carroll-Purchase Parkway at Calvert City to Eddyville. I-69 then runs for 38 miles along the former Wendell Ford-Western Kentucky Parkway from Eddyville to the Pennyrile Parkway near Madisonville.The existing I-69/Pennyrile Parkway cloverleaf requires motorists to slow to about 45 miles per hour to negotiate the ramps through the interchange. The new arrangement will allow motorists to make the transition between the west and north legs of the interchange at normal highway speeds.The interchange project in Hopkins County is among about 10 major projects scheduled over the next 2 to 3 years aimed at extended I-69 northward along the Pennyrile toward Henderson and southward along the Purchase Parkway toward Fulton. I-69 will eventually cover about 150 miles through Kentucky.View of what the interchange will look like: