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empirestate

Quote from: hbelkins on August 25, 2015, 05:42:21 PM
Party poopers. Y'all should wait until the erroneous signs are posted, take a picture, and then complain.

Or just post them in "Worst Of" even thought they're awesomely made.


route17fan

Agreed - the problem seems to be a growing trend. I was just hoping to catch it before it got to the fabrication process and .. viola! .. another signing error.
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amroad17

Had a great vacation last week, staying in Painted Post, NY for five days going to Corning and Cooperstown among my wife's and my pursuits.  Anyway, by staying there I got to see the re-done South Hamilton Street as well as the I-86/I-99 interchange (I joked to my wife that this should be called the Get Smart interchange).  NYSDOT did a fine job on this considering how this interchange was set up just 10 years ago.  We drove there taking US 15 up from Williamsport.  My opinion about this is that I-99 should be signed all the way down to Williamsport with a caveat that the I-180/US 15 interchange be upgraded in the near future (it works for North Carolina).  US 15 is pretty much Interstate standard from that interchange to the PA/NY state line.

The Prospect Mountain interchange is progressing nicely.  Still a bit of work to do--probably will take all of the two to three years of completion that is projected.
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Rothman

Quote from: amroad17 on August 25, 2015, 08:20:11 PM
The Prospect Mountain interchange is progressing nicely.  Still a bit of work to do--probably will take all of the two to three years of completion that is projected.

Of course there's more work to do :D.  The first phase actually left things with more safety problems than there were at the beginning, so NYSDOT always planned to keep the phases as close together as possible.  Phase II is set to be let later this year.  Should be interesting what the bids come in at given the recent volatility.
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TravelingBethelite

Quote from: hbelkins on August 25, 2015, 05:42:21 PM
Party poopers. Y'all should wait until the erroneous signs are posted, take a picture, and then complain.
You're right. What's the fun in doing that, when you can wait until the general public sees it and doesn't care?! Anyone who thinks otherwise, well:  :pan: On topic, did they show what the new state line would look like?
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vdeane

Quote from: TravelingBethelite on August 25, 2015, 09:20:57 PM
On topic, did they show what the new state line would look like?
I would assume this design:
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cl94

Quote from: vdeane on August 25, 2015, 09:42:36 PM
Quote from: TravelingBethelite on August 25, 2015, 09:20:57 PM
On topic, did they show what the new state line would look like?
I would assume this design:


Probably. There are a couple of those out this way. Hopefully without the URL that is noncompliant.
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Quote from: shadyjay on August 25, 2015, 10:24:52 PM
Nope... the contract plans linked above show a sign with this logo:

https://www.google.com/search?q=welcome+to+new+york+state+of+opportunity&es_sm=93&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0CD8QsARqFQoTCMajuKbYxccCFUE3PgodHIgAhA&biw=1440&bih=775#imgrc=Br3caJG67CqmRM%3A

In green, with "WELCOME TO" above.  Perhaps for use on 2-lane roads at the border (ie-non-interstate).

Perhaps meant to replace this style:
https://www.google.com/search?q=welcome+to+new+york+state+of+opportunity&es_sm=93&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0CD8QsARqFQoTCMajuKbYxccCFUE3PgodHIgAhA&biw=1440&bih=775#tbm=isch&q=welcome+to+new+york+state&imgrc=0eiH-8xbr-Q0rM%3A
does MUTCD allow this type of thing? When you come in on I-90 EB from PA, you are bombarded with all kinds of signs, something I haven't seen outside of New York.
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J N Winkler

Quote from: hbelkins on August 25, 2015, 05:42:21 PMParty poopers. Y'all should wait until the erroneous signs are posted, take a picture, and then complain.

Actually, by suggesting that someone get in touch with NYSDOT to have the errors fixed before letting, I am acting from purely mercenary motives.  I have the plans with mistakes already in hand.  If they fix the errors and upload the new plans before the letting date, then I get plans with mistakes plus corrected plans.  Win.
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Quote from: Buffaboy on August 25, 2015, 10:46:58 PM

Quote from: shadyjay on August 25, 2015, 10:24:52 PM
Nope... the contract plans linked above show a sign with this logo:

https://www.google.com/search?q=welcome+to+new+york+state+of+opportunity&es_sm=93&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0CD8QsARqFQoTCMajuKbYxccCFUE3PgodHIgAhA&biw=1440&bih=775#imgrc=Br3caJG67CqmRM%3A

In green, with "WELCOME TO" above.  Perhaps for use on 2-lane roads at the border (ie-non-interstate).

Perhaps meant to replace this style:
https://www.google.com/search?q=welcome+to+new+york+state+of+opportunity&es_sm=93&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0CD8QsARqFQoTCMajuKbYxccCFUE3PgodHIgAhA&biw=1440&bih=775#tbm=isch&q=welcome+to+new+york+state&imgrc=0eiH-8xbr-Q0rM%3A
does MUTCD allow this type of thing? When you come in on I-90 EB from PA, you are bombarded with all kinds of signs, something I haven't seen outside of New York.

Yes, the roadside powerpoint presentation of New York State tourism.  I have a little marketing in my history and get that just creating the passive feeling that there is a lot to think about with regard to New York tourism is worth it to someone's campaign, but the official nature of these makes them seem, well, officious.

machias

#1137
I spoke with R9, they are fixing the signing plans.

froggie

Quote from: hbelkinsParty poopers. Y'all should wait until the erroneous signs are posted, take a picture, and then complain.

Minimizing confusion amongst the traveling public > the desires of a few signgeeks.

route17fan

Quote from: upstatenyroads on August 26, 2015, 10:29:43 AM
I spoke with R9, they are fixing the signing plans.

Awesome! Thank you!  :)
John Krakoff - Cleveland, Ohio

vdeane

Quote from: shadyjay on August 25, 2015, 10:24:52 PM
Nope... the contract plans linked above show a sign with this logo:

https://www.google.com/search?q=welcome+to+new+york+state+of+opportunity&es_sm=93&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0CD8QsARqFQoTCMajuKbYxccCFUE3PgodHIgAhA&biw=1440&bih=775#imgrc=Br3caJG67CqmRM%3A

In green, with "WELCOME TO" above.  Perhaps for use on 2-lane roads at the border (ie-non-interstate).

Perhaps meant to replace this style:
https://www.google.com/search?q=welcome+to+new+york+state+of+opportunity&es_sm=93&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0CD8QsARqFQoTCMajuKbYxccCFUE3PgodHIgAhA&biw=1440&bih=775#tbm=isch&q=welcome+to+new+york+state&imgrc=0eiH-8xbr-Q0rM%3A
Kinda surprising, given that NYSDOT has historically used the same welcome sign for all roads.  Guess somebody didn't want to pay for the full-size sign on two lane roads.
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Alps

Quote from: hbelkins on August 25, 2015, 05:42:21 PM
Party poopers. Y'all should wait until the erroneous signs are posted, take a picture, and then complain.
I know you're being sarcastic, but better off preventing taxpayer waste if you can. Of course, once the sign is made, may as well be quiet and leave it out.

Alps

Quote from: J N Winkler on August 25, 2015, 11:11:03 PM
Is Alfred E. Neuman no longer the governor?
What, you worry?

Buffaboy


Quote from: Alps on August 26, 2015, 08:57:11 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on August 25, 2015, 11:11:03 PM
Is Alfred E. Neuman no longer the governor?
What, you worry?

None of them look like him, maybe Spitzer actually.
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Buffaboy

I was browsing Google Earth and I looked in the Albany area. Why is Corporate Woods Boulevard  connected to I-90 in such a large trumpet with what appears to be a concrete, interstate grade roadway? There's a similar connection on I-787.
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cl94

Quote from: Buffaboy on August 27, 2015, 10:53:33 AM
I was browsing Google Earth and I looked in the Albany area. Why is Corporate Woods Boulevard  connected to I-90 in such a large trumpet with what appears to be a concrete, interstate grade roadway? There's a similar connection on I-787.

Google "I-687". That's why.
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Henry

Quote from: cl94 on August 27, 2015, 11:08:05 AM
Quote from: Buffaboy on August 27, 2015, 10:53:33 AM
I was browsing Google Earth and I looked in the Albany area. Why is Corporate Woods Boulevard  connected to I-90 in such a large trumpet with what appears to be a concrete, interstate grade roadway? There's a similar connection on I-787.

Google "I-687". That's why.
Besides, that interchange was originally built for the cancelled I-687 project. It was to go to I-87 where Exit 3 would have served the connection there. More information can be found here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_687
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Quote from: cl94 on August 27, 2015, 11:08:05 AM
Quote from: Buffaboy on August 27, 2015, 10:53:33 AM
I was browsing Google Earth and I looked in the Albany area. Why is Corporate Woods Boulevard  connected to I-90 in such a large trumpet with what appears to be a concrete, interstate grade roadway? There's a similar connection on I-787.

Google "I-687". That's why.
I saw a power transmission line travels between the two trumpets, I was definitely wrong assuming that's where the routing of I-687 was supposed to go.
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Alex

Quote from: Buffaboy on August 27, 2015, 11:30:29 AM

Quote from: cl94 on August 27, 2015, 11:08:05 AM
Quote from: Buffaboy on August 27, 2015, 10:53:33 AM
I was browsing Google Earth and I looked in the Albany area. Why is Corporate Woods Boulevard  connected to I-90 in such a large trumpet with what appears to be a concrete, interstate grade roadway? There's a similar connection on I-787.

Google "I-687". That's why.
I saw a power transmission line travels between the two trumpets, I was definitely wrong assuming that's where the routing of I-687 was supposed to go.

http://www.interstate-guide.com/i-687_ny.html


cl94

I-687 is the main reason Exits 4-5 on I-87 are so messed up. The C-D setup was supposed to continue on as I-687. Now that Exit 1 has been rebuilt to handle heavy traffic to/from the north, an expressway would be redundant.
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