Quote from: Plutonic Panda on Today at 07:32:27 AMWell, yeah, the tunnel in Syracuse isn't happening. I've accepted that. I don't see why we need to accept Breezewood. That can should be fixed and should not be accepted. I don't know anything about I-99.
QuoteSeeing as how I-90 is tolled in Massachusetts, New York, Indiana, and Illinois, my assumption that it would be tolled all the way through Ohio isn't unreasonable.
Quote from: Plutonic Panda on Today at 01:56:54 AM^^^ good point. If they tear out I-794 in Milwaukee which they seem dead set on doing it'll be interesting to see the costs on that. The costs to remove I-375 in Detroit are a better comparison as well.
Quote from: Plutonic Panda on Today at 01:56:54 AM^^^ good point. If they tear out I-794 in Milwaukee which they seem dead set on doing it'll be interesting to see the costs on that. The costs to remove I-375 in Detroit are a better comparison as well.
[/quoteQuote from: Plutonic Panda on Today at 12:49:01 AMQuote from: froggie on May 19, 2024, 11:41:00 PMRight the big dig. Most overtly used example of expensive road projects. But that actually placed a freeway tunnel replacing an elevated viaduct. Same thing with the Alaskan Way Viaduct. So really those two are that comparable. This isn't replacing it in the sense of keeping it the same the state is downgrading the facility to a surface street and rerouting the corridor to another existing road.Quote from: Plutonic Panda on May 18, 2024, 12:14:12 AM^^^ you must get paid to be a cheerleader for this project.
The other poster said the most expensive *urban road* project ever. Reading is key. If it isn't it sure it close. How many billions are being spent to construct a surface boulevard? I suppose you could count the Alaskan Way Viaduct removal.
Moot point. If Henry was referring to the Boulevard part of the I-81 project, that part is small potatoes compared to I-690 (as mentioned above). If he's referring to the whole project, he (and you too apparently) have clearly forgotten the Big Dig. Compared to that, I-81 doesn't even come close.
Now if Boston had simply torn down the viaduct and built a surface boulevard with no tunnel like New York is doing to Syracuse then it'd be more comparable.
Wrong. A huge selling point of The Big Dig was how it was going to open space in downtown Boston and reconnect the community between the North End and the rest of downtown.
In both cases of Syracuse and Boston, the issue to be addressed was an obsolete viaduct. Boston was able to pursue the tunnel option while Syracuse was not (ROW and water table issues, as explained ad absurdum now).
In terms of cost comparison, sure, one can compare it to possible demolitions of I-375 and I-794, but one must also take into account how each of the demolished highways fit into the overall system in the metro area. Sure, those projects will be cheaper -- they didn't have to totally reconfigure how traffic passed through the metro area...
Quote from: SP Cook on May 18, 2024, 02:20:12 PMAnybody who is concerned about gambling and Las Vegas has not been paying attention for the last 10 years. Since the Supreme Court's ruling that every state is equal, and thus Congress could not prohibit gambling in other states, it has exploded. Not only can you gamble on your phone, there are casinos within walking distance, or at least a short drive, from more than 2/3rd of Big Four sports arenas.
Quote from: froggie on May 19, 2024, 11:59:38 PMhttps://www.wcax.com/2024/05/17/vtrans-officials-still-bullish-notch-road-barriers/
Earlier this month, VTrans installed temporary chicanes on each end of the VT 108 Smuggler's Notch stretch, in order to prevent the notorious event of trucks getting stuck in the Notch and closing the road for hours at a time as they are unstuck, removed, and ticketed (over $2K for the first offense) by authorities.
The Notch opened to traffic last week. But within 48 hours, a truck driver dodged the chicane on the Cambridge side and got stuck. I had a hunch this was going to happen after seeing the first photos of the chicane...too easy for trucks to skirt into the opposing lane. VTrans has more work to do to figure out a better solution.