Florida

[formulanone]

Oh yeah, the 874 and 878, forgot about the MDX duo with blue monochrome markers.

[realjd]

The US 192 ones are bogus, as they don't actually measure miles.

It's rare that I venture west Narcoossee on 192. I knew they were bogus but I'm trying to remember if they're labeled "mile marker" or just "marker".

[mefailenglish]

How recent is that? I've only seen shields on the Turnpike and I-75 mile markers.

I took that photo on April 6, 2013.

The MMs on US 27 in Miami-Dade are similar, but blue:

[emory]

Pinellas County is seeking ownership of FL 699 from FDOT, citing heavy pedestrian activity on the beach road and a high number of motorist/bicyclist collisions as reasons to remove it from state control.

http://www.tbnweekly.com/pinellas_county/content_articles/092613_pco-01.txt

[NE2]

The Alexander Street extension north of Plant City is now open, and feeds directly into SR 39. Anyone know how it's signed? SR 39A? CR 39A? SR 39 Truck?

[FLRoads]

The Alexander Street extension north of Plant City is now open, and feeds directly into SR 39. Anyone know how it's signed? SR 39A? CR 39A? SR 39 Truck?

I checked it out last Sunday morning on my way to Orlando and its signed as SR 39 in both directions north of Interstate 4. Most signage along I-4 east and west have also been changed reflecting the new alignment. One sign on I-4 west approaching Paul Buchman Highway does show the former SR 39 as being CR 39 though, so it looks like there will be state-maintained and county-maintained 39's. IMO that seems redundant, but I know how FDOT and some county DOTs work with their route numbering. I'm fine with it being handed over to the county, but perhaps it should have been CR 39A instead??

I also drove the old alignment and there is still a SR 39 reassurance shield erected south of Sam Allen Road and assemblies at the I-4 interchange. As I got back onto I-4 eastbound I could see another SR 39 south shield in the distance, so I am curious as to how SR 39 is signed south of the interstate and through Plant City.

I would have had some photos but I did not take the camera with me on that trip...

[florida]

The Alexander Street extension north of Plant City is now open, and feeds directly into SR 39. Anyone know how it's signed? SR 39A? CR 39A? SR 39 Truck?

I checked it out last Sunday morning on my way to Orlando and its signed as SR 39 in both directions north of Interstate 4. Most signage along I-4 east and west have also been changed reflecting the new alignment. One sign on I-4 west approaching Paul Buchman Highway does show the former SR 39 as being CR 39 though, so it looks like there will be state-maintained and county-maintained 39's. IMO that seems redundant, but I know how FDOT and some county DOTs work with their route numbering. I'm fine with it being handed over to the county, but perhaps it should have been CR 39A instead??

I also drove the old alignment and there is still a SR 39 reassurance shield erected south of Sam Allen Road and assemblies at the I-4 interchange. As I got back onto I-4 eastbound I could see another SR 39 south shield in the distance, so I am curious as to how SR 39 is signed south of the interstate and through Plant City.

I would have had some photos but I did not take the camera with me on that trip...

If you or anyone makes it back, there is an interesting Temp Truck SR 39 along Alabama and Wheeler Street to the south of US 92.

https://www.google.com/maps/@28.011307,-82.12357,3a,75y,339.97h,71.4t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1siRbKy9EXwNnZYWcSFP3IgA!2e0

And there's this little fun sign too!
https://www.google.com/maps/@28.011353,-82.123611,3a,75y,162.56h,73.63t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sHJg6YeiO9UoFFhxhN83s1Q!2e0

[D-Dey65]

I've got to find an excuse to go to that new segment of FL Truck 39.

[Alex]

If you or anyone makes it back, there is an interesting Temp Truck SR 39 along Alabama and Wheeler Street to the south of US 92.

https://www.google.com/maps/@28.011307,-82.12357,3a,75y,339.97h,71.4t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1siRbKy9EXwNnZYWcSFP3IgA!2e0

And there's this little fun sign too!
https://www.google.com/maps/@28.011353,-82.123611,3a,75y,162.56h,73.63t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sHJg6YeiO9UoFFhxhN83s1Q!2e0

The other temp assembly, photo from Veterans Day last year:

[roadman65]

Is the SR 39A extension open yet?  Also, was Alexander Street (always signed as a TRUCK ROUTE) always part of the FL State Road System before it got its "A" designation?

[FLRoads]

Is the SR 39A extension open yet?  Also, was Alexander Street (always signed as a TRUCK ROUTE) always part of the FL State Road System before it got its "A" designation?

Yes, it opened in December and I drove it last weekend. I made a post about it yesterday morning (a few posts up from this one) 

[roadman65]

Yes, I checked it out just now.  I see that it will be SR 39 mainline and the old is CR 39, just like in Zephyrhills wi the redundant SR 54 and CR 54.  Oh, yes, the cannot forget the redundant Hwy A1A in St. Augustine Beach with the bypass as mainline SR A1A and the beach alignment as CR A1A. 

Interestingly, even though it takes through traffic out of downtown, the old alignment should be SR 39A just like the deal with SR 50 in Brooksville.

I will be going to the FL Strawberry Festival in a few weeks, so I can check it out then.

[mstgator]

I see that it will be SR 39 mainline and the old is CR 39, just like in Zephyrhills wi the redundant SR 54 and CR 54.

That one is sort of a different case, as SR 54 completely ceased to exist between the western end of SR 56 and the northern end of SR 581 when that stretch was turned over to the county (the newer "parallel" alignment is signed as 56 and 581, not 54).

Somewhat big announcement for Pinellas County today:

http://tbo.com/pinellas-county/pinellas-expressway-construction-accelerated-20140217/

Construction of the new SR 690 expressway along 118th Avenue (connecting US 19 and I-275) and the new alignment of SR 686/Roosevelt Blvd (bypassing the Ulmerton Road mess) could begin as soon as 2017, with completion by 2022.

[NE2]

I see that it will be SR 39 mainline and the old is CR 39, just like in Zephyrhills wi the redundant SR 54 and CR 54.

That one is sort of a different case, as SR 54 completely ceased to exist between the western end of SR 56 and the northern end of SR 581 when that stretch was turned over to the county (the newer "parallel" alignment is signed as 56 and 581, not 54).

He means farther east, where CR 54 bypasses Zephyrhills and SR 54 goes through.

[NJRoadfan]

Construction of the new SR 690 expressway along 118th Avenue (connecting US 19 and I-275) and the new alignment of SR 686/Roosevelt Blvd (bypassing the Ulmerton Road mess) could begin as soon as 2017, with completion by 2022.

The article says its all going to be tolled. Is that a misprint? That surface stretch of 118th street isn't all that long.

[emory]

Construction of the new SR 690 expressway along 118th Avenue (connecting US 19 and I-275) and the new alignment of SR 686/Roosevelt Blvd (bypassing the Ulmerton Road mess) could begin as soon as 2017, with completion by 2022.

The article says its all going to be tolled. Is that a misprint? That surface stretch of 118th street isn't all that long.

Neither is the I-4/Selmon Expressway connector.

[NJRoadfan]

Neither is the I-4/Selmon Expressway connector.

The Selmon is a toll road so it makes sense.

[mstgator]

I see that it will be SR 39 mainline and the old is CR 39, just like in Zephyrhills wi the redundant SR 54 and CR 54.

That one is sort of a different case, as SR 54 completely ceased to exist between the western end of SR 56 and the northern end of SR 581 when that stretch was turned over to the county (the newer "parallel" alignment is signed as 56 and 581, not 54).

He means farther east, where CR 54 bypasses Zephyrhills and SR 54 goes through.

Ah, forgot about that.  Can't wait to see what they'll do whenever SR 54 is extended to the bypass; I suppose they'll reverse the redundancy with CR 54 moved to the current SR 54 alignment.

Construction of the new SR 690 expressway along 118th Avenue (connecting US 19 and I-275) and the new alignment of SR 686/Roosevelt Blvd (bypassing the Ulmerton Road mess) could begin as soon as 2017, with completion by 2022.

The article says its all going to be tolled. Is that a misprint? That surface stretch of 118th street isn't all that long.

Yes, both elevated sections are to be tolled.  The existing surface roads will remain free.

[emory]

Neither is the I-4/Selmon Expressway connector.

The Selmon is a toll road so it makes sense.

This is Florida. If a new freeway is announced and it's not tolled, I'm surprised.

[NE2]

This is Florida. If a new freeway is announced and it's not tolled, I'm surprised.

SR 9B? Port of Miami Tunnel? Starke Bypass (probably)? Hell, US 19?

Texas is the state that tolls every fucen thing.

[emory]

9B is a future interstate and I don't expect FDOT to toll those. Those other three are new to me, but new tolled freeways don't surprise me. The Palmetto Expressway being an untolled non-interstate in Miami-Dade feels so strange. Also, where is US 19 a freeway?

[NE2]

Also, where is US 19 a freeway?

A whole bunch in Pinellas.
http://www.myus19.com/

[xcellntbuy]

9B is a future interstate and I don't expect FDOT to toll those. Those other three are new to me, but new tolled freeways don't surprise me. The Palmetto Expressway being an untolled non-interstate in Miami-Dade feels so strange. Also, where is US 19 a freeway?

HOT lanes are proposed for FL 826, the Palmetto Expressway.

[emory]

9B is a future interstate and I don't expect FDOT to toll those. Those other three are new to me, but new tolled freeways don't surprise me. The Palmetto Expressway being an untolled non-interstate in Miami-Dade feels so strange. Also, where is US 19 a freeway?

HOT lanes are proposed for FL 826, the Palmetto Expressway.

Well those exist on interstates too, but drivers have the option not to use those.

[Alex]

Bay News 9 also ran a piece on the new "Gateway Express" toll lanes connecting I-275 with US 19 and PIE Airport. The stories were the first I heard that these would be tolled facilities. They will be the first toll roads for Pinellas County (not including either the Skyway or Pinellas Bayway toll bridges).

http://www.baynews9.com/content/news/baynews9/news/article.html/content/news/articles/bn9/2014/2/17/gov_scott_gateway_ex.html

Found another article which shows the extension to PIE Airport as SR 686.

http://www.saintpetersblog.com/game-changer-fdot-plans-elevated-toll-road-to-connect-i-275-and-u-s-19

The SR 690 lanes will be on a viaduct above the CR 296/118th Avenue North carriageways, very Texas like.