Illinois interesting bid annoucements

[paulthemapguy]

There are indeed a couple of FYA's along Illinois 15 just east of I-57 in Mount Vernon. https://goo.gl/maps/WRWza3ENmN5B7Zqp8

[Crash_It]

List of projects for the April 29, 2022 Letting is up.

* Item 77 adds flashing yellow arrows to US 45 at Devers Road and the I-24 ramps

* Item 78 has signal modifications and ADA improvements for IL 13 at Giant City Road on the east side of Carbondale

Unless I missed something recently, those signals in Metropolis should be the first Flashing Yellow Arrow signals in District 9/Southern IL.

I'm curious what the signal improvements at IL 13 and Giant City Road will be. The phasing has always been weird at the light anyway, with a Lead/Lag for Left Turn movements from 13 onto Giant City Road. I'd like to see FYAs for Giant City Road traffic. Pretty sure the Double Lefts from 13 to Giant City Road will stay Protected-Only.

I could see Pedestrian signals and striped crosswalks added for walking traffic, especially with the bike/running trail now along 13 between Giant City Road and Reed Station Rd

Hilarious that it's taking IDOT so long to implement FYAs statewide, even on completely new signal installations. You go to Wisconsin and you can hardly escape them. State roads, county roads, even local roads.

It's even more hilarious that WisDOT still had yet to resurface US12 through Walworth county. It's been at least 20 years now.

[Big John]

It's even more hilarious that WisDOT still had yet to resurface US12 through Walworth county. It's been at least 20 years now.

Per the US 12 thread, they will be working on US 12 north of WI 50: https://projects.511wi.gov/12walworth/full-project-overview/

[JoePCool14]

It's even more hilarious that WisDOT still had yet to resurface US12 through Walworth county. It's been at least 20 years now.

WisDOT > IDOT

You will never convince me otherwise.

[Hobart]

There are indeed a couple of FYA's along Illinois 15 just east of I-57 in Mount Vernon. https://goo.gl/maps/WRWza3ENmN5B7Zqp8

This picture amuses me, because you can tell how haphazard they were with replacing the five-segment sections. One of the five-segments is still up, and they didn't realize that the minor approach now only has one signal on it for the through direction.

[Crash_It]

It's even more hilarious that WisDOT still had yet to resurface US12 through Walworth county. It's been at least 20 years now.

WisDOT > IDOT

You will never convince me otherwise.

Is that WI still has a higher percentage of roads in deplorable condition than IL?

[JoePCool14]

There are indeed a couple of FYA's along Illinois 15 just east of I-57 in Mount Vernon. https://goo.gl/maps/WRWza3ENmN5B7Zqp8

This picture amuses me, because you can tell how haphazard they were with replacing the five-segment sections. One of the five-segments is still up, and they didn't realize that the minor approach now only has one signal on it for the through direction.

Looking more closely, I think in the Street View the work is still in progress. Some of the pedestrian signals are bagged, some signals are dark, some are straight-up missing. And like you said, that old five-segment tower is still there. However, only one thru signal on the side streets could potentially be an oversight. I don't see any indication they added another one to the mast arm.

It's even more hilarious that WisDOT still had yet to resurface US12 through Walworth county. It's been at least 20 years now.

WisDOT > IDOT

You will never convince me otherwise.

Is that WI still has a higher percentage of roads in deplorable condition than IL?

I actively drive a lot in both Wisconsin and Illinois, on highways and surface streets. I enjoy my time driving in Wisconsin significantly more than in Illinois. Better navigation, more innovative designs, more consistent standards, less signal slap-happy than Illinois (in my opinion), and other pluses. Are there are some deficient roads in Wisconsin? Yes. But guess what, there's just as many if not more in Illinois. And combined with the other reasons I've already mentioned, I will stand by my statement.

I think we've had this discussion before...

[Rick Powell]

List of projects for the April 29, 2022 Letting is up.

* Item 27 is "an interim improvement to address poor pavement condition" with resurfacing along IL 47 on the north side of Yorkville

Interesting. IDOT District 1 will eventually be making an incursion into District 3 from US 30 at the Kane County Line to south of Galena Road to add lanes to  IL 47 from Sugar Grove south, where it will meet a similar District 3 project going from Yorkville to the north. This interim pavement repair will help the existing road hold together until, and during, construction. I remember a similar project in Yorkvile just prior to the 4-laning project, and it seemed to help...there was a lot of explaining that was done that the resurfacing didn't replace the add-lanes project, it set the larger project up for success.

[Crash_It]

There are indeed a couple of FYA's along Illinois 15 just east of I-57 in Mount Vernon. https://goo.gl/maps/WRWza3ENmN5B7Zqp8

This picture amuses me, because you can tell how haphazard they were with replacing the five-segment sections. One of the five-segments is still up, and they didn't realize that the minor approach now only has one signal on it for the through direction.

Looking more closely, I think in the Street View the work is still in progress. Some of the pedestrian signals are bagged, some signals are dark, some are straight-up missing. And like you said, that old five-segment tower is still there. However, only one thru signal on the side streets could potentially be an oversight. I don't see any indication they added another one to the mast arm.

It's even more hilarious that WisDOT still had yet to resurface US12 through Walworth county. It's been at least 20 years now.

WisDOT > IDOT

You will never convince me otherwise.

Is that WI still has a higher percentage of roads in deplorable condition than IL?

I actively drive a lot in both Wisconsin and Illinois, on highways and surface streets. I enjoy my time driving in Wisconsin significantly more than in Illinois. Better navigation, more innovative designs, more consistent standards, less signal slap-happy than Illinois (in my opinion), and other pluses. Are there are some deficient roads in Wisconsin? Yes. But guess what, there's just as many if not more in Illinois. And combined with the other reasons I've already mentioned, I will stand by my statement.

I think we've had this discussion before...

The signal lights are timed better in Illinois than Wisconsin. Just drive down either WIS 31 or WIS32 in Kenosha to see what I mean.

Plus, you don't see WisDOT winning any awards. This is just one of many in the last few years alone.


https://www.theintelligencer.com/news/article/I-255-project-in-Metro-East-wins-national-award-16430583.php

[Max Rockatansky]

There are indeed a couple of FYA's along Illinois 15 just east of I-57 in Mount Vernon. https://goo.gl/maps/WRWza3ENmN5B7Zqp8

This picture amuses me, because you can tell how haphazard they were with replacing the five-segment sections. One of the five-segments is still up, and they didn't realize that the minor approach now only has one signal on it for the through direction.

Looking more closely, I think in the Street View the work is still in progress. Some of the pedestrian signals are bagged, some signals are dark, some are straight-up missing. And like you said, that old five-segment tower is still there. However, only one thru signal on the side streets could potentially be an oversight. I don't see any indication they added another one to the mast arm.

It's even more hilarious that WisDOT still had yet to resurface US12 through Walworth county. It's been at least 20 years now.

WisDOT > IDOT

You will never convince me otherwise.

Is that WI still has a higher percentage of roads in deplorable condition than IL?

I actively drive a lot in both Wisconsin and Illinois, on highways and surface streets. I enjoy my time driving in Wisconsin significantly more than in Illinois. Better navigation, more innovative designs, more consistent standards, less signal slap-happy than Illinois (in my opinion), and other pluses. Are there are some deficient roads in Wisconsin? Yes. But guess what, there's just as many if not more in Illinois. And combined with the other reasons I've already mentioned, I will stand by my statement.

I think we've had this discussion before...

The signal lights are timed better in Illinois than Wisconsin. Just drive down either WIS 31 or WIS32 in Kenosha to see what I mean.

Plus, you don't see WisDOT winning any awards. This is just one of many in the last few years alone.


https://www.theintelligencer.com/news/article/I-255-project-in-Metro-East-wins-national-award-16430583.php

Sweet, they are awarding the flattest highways now. 

[TheHighwayMan3561]

Plus, you don't see WisDOT winning any awards. This is just one of many in the last few years alone.

https://www.theintelligencer.com/news/article/I-255-project-in-Metro-East-wins-national-award-16430583.php

Cool, they won an award no one in the general public knows or cares about. Trumpeting that as a measure of Illinois's superiority is like citing a #1 ranking in a BuzzFeed or Forbes article.

[jeffandnicole]

Plus, you don't see WisDOT winning any awards. This is just one of many in the last few years alone.

https://www.theintelligencer.com/news/article/I-255-project-in-Metro-East-wins-national-award-16430583.php

The project, one of the first under the bipartisan Rebuild Illinois capital program, fixed one of the state's worst roads quicker, safer and cheaper by closing the work zone to all traffic for nine months instead of using multiple construction seasons.

How is closing a road for reconstruction worthy of an award?

[ilpt4u]

Plus, you don't see WisDOT winning any awards. This is just one of many in the last few years alone.

https://www.theintelligencer.com/news/article/I-255-project-in-Metro-East-wins-national-award-16430583.php

The project, one of the first under the bipartisan Rebuild Illinois capital program, fixed one of the state's worst roads quicker, safer and cheaper by closing the work zone to all traffic for nine months instead of using multiple construction seasons.

How is closing a road for reconstruction worthy of an award?

I'm not sure, but if that is a prereq, I expect INDOT to win the award once the 65/70 North Split reconstruction is done

[Crash_It]

Plus, you don't see WisDOT winning any awards. This is just one of many in the last few years alone.

https://www.theintelligencer.com/news/article/I-255-project-in-Metro-East-wins-national-award-16430583.php

The project, one of the first under the bipartisan Rebuild Illinois capital program, fixed one of the state's worst roads quicker, safer and cheaper by closing the work zone to all traffic for nine months instead of using multiple construction seasons.

How is closing a road for reconstruction worthy of an award?

The answer is in that very selection you quoted, and this wasn't the only time IDOT won an award in recent history


https://www.myradiolink.com/2018/09/24/illinois-wins-national-transportation-award/


Can't say the same for WIsDOT.

[Max Rockatansky]

I want to know more about the ravenous Entenmann's delivery drivers who are terrorizing Illinois. 

[edwaleni]

I want to know more about the ravenous Entenmann's delivery drivers who are terrorizing Illinois.

6:15AM - FedEx Ground
6:25AM - UPS
6:30AM - All kinds of commercial bakeries delivering bread to WalMart's, Jewel, etc. (Gonella, Flowers, etc.)
7:15AM - Amazon Prime
7:30AM - Entenmanns/Pepperidge Farms
7:40AM - Sysco Food Services, GFS (Gordon Food Services)
7:50AM - Frito Lay
8:00AM - Vending Machine companies
8:30AM - Coca-Cola & Pepsi Distributors

This is what terrorizes the Chicago metro 5 days a week.

[paulthemapguy]

Plus, you don't see WisDOT winning any awards. This is just one of many in the last few years alone.
https://www.theintelligencer.com/news/article/I-255-project-in-Metro-East-wins-national-award-16430583.php

Is it funny that I knew exactly who created this insanely cherry-picked rebuttal when I read it in the quotes, before my eyes made their way up to the person's username?

[Max Rockatansky]

Plus, you don't see WisDOT winning any awards. This is just one of many in the last few years alone.
https://www.theintelligencer.com/news/article/I-255-project-in-Metro-East-wins-national-award-16430583.php

Is it funny that I knew exactly who created this insanely cherry-picked rebuttal when I read it in the quotes, before my eyes made their way up to the person's username?

Must've been a slow day in between Entenmann's truck driver incursions. 

[hobsini2]

Crash is still trying to say that IDOT is somehow superior in their "Construction tactics", "Transportation tactics" and "rehabbing surfaces"? This old tripe needs to go.
For every deficiency Crash comes up with in Wisconsin, I can come up with one in Illinois. It's not that difficult.

For example, IMHO, Wisconsin does a much better job of signing state highway to state highway junctions for the general public. I don't have to guess what direction a road is heading.

[Max Rockatansky]

Crash is still trying to say that IDOT is somehow superior in their "Construction tactics", "Transportation tactics" and "rehabbing surfaces"? This old tripe needs to go.
For every deficiency Crash comes up with in Wisconsin, I can come up with one in Illinois. It's not that difficult.

For example, IMHO, Wisconsin does a much better job of signing state highway to state highway junctions for the general public. I don't have to guess what direction a road is heading.

More accurate to say that Crash has an Illinois superiority complex regarding all things.  This spin doctoring is just the tip of a massive iceberg. 

[kphoger]

I enjoy my time driving in Wisconsin significantly more than in Illinois ... less signal slap-happy than Illinois ...

The signal lights are timed better in Illinois than Wisconsin.

I'll take fewer stoplights over better-timed stoplights any day.  And Illinois is definitely signal slap-happy.

[Max Rockatansky]

I enjoy my time driving in Wisconsin significantly more than in Illinois ... less signal slap-happy than Illinois ...

The signal lights are timed better in Illinois than Wisconsin.

I'll take fewer stoplights over better-timed stoplights any day.  And Illinois is definitely signal slap-happy.

You know what Illinois does do better than Wisconsin?
























































































Being flat.

[JoePCool14]

Not so fast. Here's a photo I took in Illinois. Doesn't look flat to me.



Checkmate.

[kphoger]

That's literally as flat as a pancake.

[Max Rockatansky]

That's literally as flat as a pancake.

Similar to a pancake one might find at Denny's?