What do you consider as an industrial wasteland?

[WISFreeways]

I consider an industrial wasteland to have these:

1. At least one river
2. A lot of industrial facilities
3. Railroads (you have to see them)

[bugo]

Gary, Indiana.

[Alex]

Chester, Pennsylvania

[corco]

Caldwell, ID

[rawmustard]

Battle Creek, Michigan, to the immediate west of downtown is quite an industrial wasteland. I would consider a wasteland to have several abandoned factory sites. Just about anyplace with a closed/abandoned paper mill would also qualify, although there are efforts to redevelop many of those sites.

[agentsteel53]

Cairo, Illinois. 



such a friendly welcome!



would you vote for a man named Street Preacher?



behold the vibrance and activity.



some of the buildings have just entirely given up out of sheer despair.

the town is at the confluence of the Ohio and Mississippi rivers - how on earth they managed to screw up such a strategic location, I will never know.  Ask Mr. Preacher, I suppose.

[Alex]

I welcome any photos showing Detroit! Ryan sent me a few months ago. Anyone else have any?

[WISFreeways]

Cleveland, OH, Calumet City, IL, and just south of Los Angeles.

[mightyace]

Cleveland, OH, Calumet City, IL, and just south of Los Angeles.

There are certainly parts of Cleveland that qualify.  However, it would be unfair to paint the whole city that way.

Other cities in the region with sections of town that would qualify:
Youngstown, OH
Pittsburgh, PA (as I said some parts, other parts of Pittsburgh are very nice)
Ashtabula, OH

And further afield:
Wilmington, DE along the river
sections of Knoxville and Chatanooga, TN
The "chemical coast" section of Houston, TX and surrounding cities

[Alex]

Wilmington, DE along the river

Wilmington has dramatically revitalized their riverfront, tearing down most of the industrial sites and replacing them with shops, offices, Frawley Stadium, etc. Even portions of the South Bridge community have seen revitalization on the river (however areas just south of there remain extremely blighted). Overall the northeast side (Eastlawn), areas along and east of U.S. 13 (Church/Spruce Streets), and the aforementioned South Bridge remain in a serious state of poverty. Sections of Westside between 6th Street and Delaware 48 (Lancaster Avenue) remain riddled with crime and gang problems too.

There was a nice site covering the renewal of Wilmington and its growing skyline, but it appears to be dead.

[agentsteel53]

Wilmington has dramatically revitalized their riverfront, tearing down most of the industrial sites and replacing them with shops, offices, Frawley Stadium, etc. Even portions of the South Bridge community have seen revitalization on the river (however areas just south of there remain extremely blighted). Overall the northeast side (Eastlawn), areas along and east of U.S. 13 (Church/Spruce Streets), and the aforementioned South Bridge remain in a serious state of poverty. Sections of Westside between 6th Street and Delaware 48 (Lancaster Avenue) remain riddled with crime and gang problems too.

so basically they took down the old signs, but made no actual progress on behalf of their citizens.  Yippeekayay.  I want my '61 spec shields back.

[mightyace]

Wilmington, DE along the river

Wilmington has dramatically revitalized their riverfront, tearing down most of the industrial sites and replacing them with shops, offices, Frawley Stadium, etc.

Well my memories are 25 or 30 years out of date! 

[njroadhorse]

Kearny, NJ and anywhere near the Meadowlands.

Pittsburgh is not as much a wasteland as it used to be.  Most of the mill sites are now some kind of complex and the neighborhoods are getting a little better.

Also, the entire city of Camden, NJ.  Waterfront and all.

[Mr. Matté]

"You know what I'd consider an industrial wasteland, all of NEW JERSEY!"

[Chris]

The port of Rotterdam, the Netherlands.

30 miles of continuous refineries, coal harbors, container terminals, car terminals, oil storage tanks, power plants, power lines, railroads, shipping and freeways.

I took this pic in 2005, it was even published in a Belgian earth science school book.

[Ian]

-Marcus Hook, PA
-Spots along the south New Jersey Delaware River waterfront
-all of northeastern New Jersey
-parts of Baltimore

[mightyace]

The port of Rotterdam, the Netherlands.

30 miles of continuous refineries, coal harbors, container terminals, car terminals, oil storage tanks, power plants, power lines, railroads, shipping and freeways.

I took this pic in 2005, it was even published in a Belgian earth science school book.

Hey, that road looks too nice for an industrial wasteland!  (at least here in America)  I expect roads in an industrial wasteland are to be in an advanced state of decay. 

[WISFreeways]

You know what I'd consider as one?

Menomonee River Valley in Milwaukee (no thats not the reason I-94 is very depressed  , there was actually an abandoned railroad there that followed that route)
NE Minneapolis and SE St. Paul (dont forget the Mississippi River )
Just south of that double-decker section of I-64 in STL.

There was even this razor blade commercial turning the wasteland into nice mountains   

[SSOWorld]

Northern Lake County, Indiana.  Anything north of the toll road.

[PAHighways]

Pittsburgh, PA (as I said some parts, other parts of Pittsburgh are very nice)

Most of where the mills were located have been cleared and are now used for other purposes.  The Mon Valley, which took the brunt of the steel industry collapse, is where you will still find relics of the industrial past as well as the survivors in Braddock's Edgar Thompson Works and the Clairton Coke Works.

[BigMattFromTexas]

Well San Angelo has a steel company, railroad tracks, a river, a new wind turbine manufactoring company(under construction) and multiple other factories, would this count...
BigMatt

[Alps]

-all of northeastern New Jersey

Then, no offense, but you're an idiot.  And I would say that to anyone who thinks that.

If you want to know where the industrial wastelands are in NE NJ: Carteret.  Port Newark/Elizabeth aren't so much industrial as heavy commercial.  There's a lot of warehousing near the NJ Turnpike in general.  That's no more than 5% of the total land area of NE NJ and about 1% of the roadscape.

[Alps]

Kearny, NJ and anywhere near the Meadowlands.

Pittsburgh is not as much a wasteland as it used to be.  Most of the mill sites are now some kind of complex and the neighborhoods are getting a little better.

Also, the entire city of Camden, NJ.  Waterfront and all.

I have to defend NJ against a New Jerseyan?  Really?  Kearny, believe it or not, is a town.  Try driving NJ 17 through it.  The Meadowlands has light industry and heavy commerce (i.e. warehousing) between itself and Teterboro.  The Meadowlands itself is just a swamp, though.

Camden?  Industrial wasteland?  I don't think you've been off of I-676 or US 30 based on your response, especially re: the waterfront.

[Alps]

I welcome any photos showing Detroit! Ryan sent me a few months ago. Anyone else have any?

I'm sitting on a bunch but I'm focusing on my roads pages for the time being (and gotta get this damn update out).  Besides, I only took photos of the cool stuff, not the wasteland stuff.  The industrial wasteland I saw is near the river and south of the city (M-85 corridor) or along the Jeffries (I-96) west of the city, IIRC.

[Roadgeek Adam]

Kearny, NJ and anywhere near the Meadowlands.

Pittsburgh is not as much a wasteland as it used to be.  Most of the mill sites are now some kind of complex and the neighborhoods are getting a little better.

Also, the entire city of Camden, NJ.  Waterfront and all.

I have to defend NJ against a New Jerseyan?  Really?  Kearny, believe it or not, is a town.  Try driving NJ 17 through it.  The Meadowlands has light industry and heavy commerce (i.e. warehousing) between itself and Teterboro.  The Meadowlands itself is just a swamp, though.

Camden?  Industrial wasteland?  I don't think you've been off of I-676 or US 30 based on your response, especially re: the waterfront.

Kearny is rather beautiful, especially in the Arlington section. State street in Perth Amboy is major industry north & south of the city itself