I-35 or I-4

[dariusb]

Which do you prefer, I-35 between Austin and San Antonio or I-4 between Tampa and Orlando? Based on traffic, scenery and road repair.

[roadman65]

I-35. Only cause I live near I-4 so I would be biased to give an accurate answer.

[LilianaUwU]

Trash vs garbage.

[Rothman]

I choose Doctor Who.

[Scott5114]

Trash vs garbage.

Kansas City and Minneapolis are nice.

[dariusb]

I-35. Only cause I live near I-4 so I would be biased to give an accurate answer.

That's fine I'm interested in your opinion.

[dariusb]

Trash vs garbage.

Wow, lol. I know I-35 between Austin and San Antonio can be hell. I've heard I-4 is no joke in that department. Then again I've never been on that freeway.

[epzik8]

Trash vs garbage.

Wow, lol. I know I-35 between Austin and San Antonio can be hell. I've heard I-4 is no joke in that department. Then again I've never been on that freeway.

My dad has told me his share of traffic horror stories on I-4.

[Max Rockatansky]

Trash vs garbage.

Took the words right out my mouth.

[roadman65]

Trash vs garbage.

Took the words right out my mouth.

I only drove I-35 once between Austin and SA, but I can believe that it can be another I-4 based on gossip.

[roadman65]

Trash vs garbage.

Took the words right out my mouth.

I only drove I-35 once between Austin and SA, but I can believe that it can be another I-4 based on gossip. However it wasn't bad the day I drove it, but I could have got lucky.

[Max Rockatansky]

Trash vs garbage.

Took the words right out my mouth.

I only drove I-35 once between Austin and SA, but I can believe that it can be another I-4 based on gossip.

It is, both suck in every conceivable way.

[Quillz]

Never been on either. 

[Max Rockatansky]

I'm a former Orlando resident.  That being the case I've done pretty much everything conceivable to avoid I-4.  The cited segment of I-35 never has been an enjoyable experience every time I've interacted with it.

[roadman65]

Well both are in developing areas.  Both are attracting those from Michigan, New York, and New Jersey to move there and businesses relying on those to establish themselves in those two corridors.

[Max Rockatansky]

Orlando has two problems that lead to everyone dog piling onto I-4:

-  The street grid is a contender for the worst of any major U.S. city.
-  The locals don't want to use the tolled State Roads.

Most of the time the toll prices were worth it to get out town fast.  I picked the right apartment to live at along Semoran. My commute was super short and didn't involve anything limited access.

[JayhawkCO]

I-4 sucks worse than that stretch of I-35, but neither are fun.

[roadman65]

Orlando has two problems that lead to everyone dog piling onto I-4:

-  The street grid is a contender for the worst of any major U.S. city.
-  The locals don't want to use the tolled State Roads.

Most of the time the toll prices were worth it to get out town fast.  I picked the right apartment to live at along Semoran. My commute was super short and didn't involve anything limited access.

It never was planned. Everything just thrown in. Streets laid out terrible and no foresight into what it will lead.

New Jersey, where I'm from, is the best example to show the results of overdevelopment, yet Florida leaders don't want to look and see what their type of present thinking has done in the past elsewhere. Just continue screwing up like other states have done, and say shit happens when residents complain about the traffic.

[Max Rockatansky]

Orlando has two problems that lead to everyone dog piling onto I-4:

-  The street grid is a contender for the worst of any major U.S. city.
-  The locals don't want to use the tolled State Roads.

Most of the time the toll prices were worth it to get out town fast.  I picked the right apartment to live at along Semoran. My commute was super short and didn't involve anything limited access.

It never was planned. Everything just thrown in. Streets laid out terrible and no foresight into what it will lead.

New Jersey, where I'm from, is the best example to show the results of overdevelopment, yet Florida leaders don't want to look and see what their type of present thinking has done in the past elsewhere. Just continue screwing up like other states have done, and say shit happens when residents complain about the traffic.

Planning or not, there isn't much that can be done with so many random lakes.  A lot of the retiree oriented communities (thinking of Belle Isle especially) use those lakes a de facto barriers. 

[roadman65]

Orlando has two problems that lead to everyone dog piling onto I-4:

-  The street grid is a contender for the worst of any major U.S. city.
-  The locals don't want to use the tolled State Roads.

Most of the time the toll prices were worth it to get out town fast.  I picked the right apartment to live at along Semoran. My commute was super short and didn't involve anything limited access.

It never was planned. Everything just thrown in. Streets laid out terrible and no foresight into what it will lead.

New Jersey, where I'm from, is the best example to show the results of overdevelopment, yet Florida leaders don't want to look and see what their type of present thinking has done in the past elsewhere. Just continue screwing up like other states have done, and say shit happens when residents complain about the traffic.

Planning or not, there isn't much that can be done with so many random lakes.  A lot of the retiree oriented communities (thinking of Belle Isle especially) use those lakes a de facto barriers. 

When they develop east of SR 417 is the time to strategize on how to lay out a street grid so when new developments occur there, they have a free flowing arterial system when they get beyond their peak.

[Max Rockatansky]

Orlando has two problems that lead to everyone dog piling onto I-4:

-  The street grid is a contender for the worst of any major U.S. city.
-  The locals don't want to use the tolled State Roads.

Most of the time the toll prices were worth it to get out town fast.  I picked the right apartment to live at along Semoran. My commute was super short and didn't involve anything limited access.

It never was planned. Everything just thrown in. Streets laid out terrible and no foresight into what it will lead.

New Jersey, where I'm from, is the best example to show the results of overdevelopment, yet Florida leaders don't want to look and see what their type of present thinking has done in the past elsewhere. Just continue screwing up like other states have done, and say shit happens when residents complain about the traffic.

Planning or not, there isn't much that can be done with so many random lakes.  A lot of the retiree oriented communities (thinking of Belle Isle especially) use those lakes a de facto barriers. 

When they develop east of SR 417 is the time to strategize on how to lay out a street grid so when new developments occur there, they have a free flowing arterial system when they get beyond their peak.

Lake Nona didn't do much for me when most of that was new.  Just made Narcoossee Road more of a pain in the ass to get through when I was heading south.

[Alex]

Orlando has two problems that lead to everyone dog piling onto I-4:

-  The street grid is a contender for the worst of any major U.S. city.
-  The locals don't want to use the tolled State Roads.

Most of the time the toll prices were worth it to get out town fast.  I picked the right apartment to live at along Semoran. My commute was super short and didn't involve anything limited access.

And to the southwest, the Green Swamp results in a bottleneck of all regional traffic onto six lanes of I-4 or two lanes of US 17/92. Osceola and Polk County approving every development along CR 532 and nearby, plus the solid corridor of suburban development and logistics centers along US 27 resulted in the traffic congestion.

Traffic congestion along the stretch from US 27 to SR 429 was not routine until after 2016. It occurred, but not with regularity.

[GaryV]

The street grid is a contender for the worst of any major U.S. city.

A grid doesn't solve everything. Look at areas in the mid-northern suburbs of Detroit. Places like northern Troy and Sterling Heights, Rochester Hills, Shelby Twp. They have a well-defined grid with the mile roads and n/s roads. (Although the Clinton River does interrupt it in some places.) The problem is that the roads have not been expanded as much as the population has expanded. So the grid becomes gridlock.

[roadman65]

They don't think of the impact. They just approve building because the money it brings into the economy and the additional traffic is not on their minds. 

To the commissioners it's like " so what" as if it's another " life is unfair" moment.

[webny99]

Just realized I-4 is only 6 lanes between FL 429 and World Dr. That is an insane bottleneck, especially westbound. Six lanes collapsing into three is probably the closest thing I've seen to the QEW east of Red Hill Valley Pkwy which is an unhinged seven lanes into three.