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kernals12



Max Rockatansky

Quote from: kernals12 on December 07, 2024, 10:51:03 PMCasino Royale- way too sober for a Bond film and I cannot understand why the audience is supposed to care about Vesper

Eva Green was probably enough reason for me care about several movies that were way worse than Casino Royale.  The 1967 parody version had Ursula Andress in the role oddly post Dr. No.

kernals12

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 07, 2024, 11:16:16 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on December 07, 2024, 10:51:03 PMCasino Royale- way too sober for a Bond film and I cannot understand why the audience is supposed to care about Vesper

Eva Green was probably enough reason for me care about several movies that were way worse than Casino Royale.  The 1967 parody version had Ursula Andress in the role oddly post Dr. No.

I find myself watching Die Another Day more often than Casino Royale.

Max Rockatansky

Quote from: kernals12 on December 07, 2024, 11:23:56 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 07, 2024, 11:16:16 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on December 07, 2024, 10:51:03 PMCasino Royale- way too sober for a Bond film and I cannot understand why the audience is supposed to care about Vesper

Eva Green was probably enough reason for me care about several movies that were way worse than Casino Royale.  The 1967 parody version had Ursula Andress in the role oddly post Dr. No.

I find myself watching Die Another Day more often than Casino Royale.

And you want a prize for watching what a lot of people consider to be one of the worst Bond movie?  I would have thought something like Moonraker would be in your swim lane. 

kernals12

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 07, 2024, 11:36:52 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on December 07, 2024, 11:23:56 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 07, 2024, 11:16:16 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on December 07, 2024, 10:51:03 PMCasino Royale- way too sober for a Bond film and I cannot understand why the audience is supposed to care about Vesper

Eva Green was probably enough reason for me care about several movies that were way worse than Casino Royale.  The 1967 parody version had Ursula Andress in the role oddly post Dr. No.

I find myself watching Die Another Day more often than Casino Royale.

And you want a prize for watching what a lot of people consider to be one of the worst Bond movie?  I would have thought something like Moonraker would be in your swim lane. 

According to Rotten Tomatoes, the worst Bond movie is A View to a Kill

kkt

Quote from: kernals12 on December 07, 2024, 11:41:47 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 07, 2024, 11:36:52 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on December 07, 2024, 11:23:56 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 07, 2024, 11:16:16 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on December 07, 2024, 10:51:03 PMCasino Royale- way too sober for a Bond film and I cannot understand why the audience is supposed to care about Vesper

Eva Green was probably enough reason for me care about several movies that were way worse than Casino Royale.  The 1967 parody version had Ursula Andress in the role oddly post Dr. No.

I find myself watching Die Another Day more often than Casino Royale.

And you want a prize for watching what a lot of people consider to be one of the worst Bond movie?  I would have thought something like Moonraker would be in your swim lane. 

According to Rotten Tomatoes, the worst Bond movie is A View to a Kill

I am not persuaded by Rotten Tomato ratings.  People rate each movie individually without comparing it to other films in the series. 

I think the worst and most cringeworthy is Diamonds Are Forever.  Homophobic humor that has was never funny and has aged poorly.  They are sending Bond to deal with diamond smugglers?  What's the matter, Her Majesty's Goverment and the United States have no cops?  Las Vegas doesn't really make it as an exotic location to me.  The theme song was good though.

I liked the Craig Casino Royale.  Bond is in a rough business and the opposition is not going easy on him.  Some of the other films make it look effortless, like there was never any danger.


Max Rockatansky

View to a Kill isn't exactly good but the premise about wiping out Silicon Valley has aged up a bit.

Aside from GoldenEye I'm not really a fan of the Brosnan era.  GoldenEye was solid but the films got less grounded with each installment.  Tomorrow Never Dies is enjoyably silly if I'm in the mood for something campy. 

JayhawkCO

Casino Royale's poker scenes alone make it unwatchable for me.

Rothman

Quote from: JayhawkCO on December 08, 2024, 09:56:51 AMCasino Royale's poker scenes alone make it unwatchable for me.

What's so bad about the sloppy shuffle?
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1995hoo

Quote from: kernals12 on December 07, 2024, 11:41:47 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 07, 2024, 11:36:52 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on December 07, 2024, 11:23:56 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 07, 2024, 11:16:16 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on December 07, 2024, 10:51:03 PMCasino Royale- way too sober for a Bond film and I cannot understand why the audience is supposed to care about Vesper

Eva Green was probably enough reason for me care about several movies that were way worse than Casino Royale.  The 1967 parody version had Ursula Andress in the role oddly post Dr. No.

I find myself watching Die Another Day more often than Casino Royale.

And you want a prize for watching what a lot of people consider to be one of the worst Bond movie?  I would have thought something like Moonraker would be in your swim lane. 

According to Rotten Tomatoes, the worst Bond movie is A View to a Kill

So does that mean you're incapable of reaching your own opinion? A person is entitled to like, or dislike, whatever movie he wants. It doesn't matter what a website's users think.

The reason why someone likes or dislikes it can be entirely random, too. For example, I happen to like watching Saturday Night Fever because several significant segments were filmed within five blocks of where my grandparents lived, so watching it is like riding a time machine back to the neighborhood I knew as a kid.
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JayhawkCO

Quote from: Rothman on December 08, 2024, 09:58:11 AM
Quote from: JayhawkCO on December 08, 2024, 09:56:51 AMCasino Royale's poker scenes alone make it unwatchable for me.

What's so bad about the sloppy shuffle?

The amount of min-raising is mind numbing. It's been forever since I've seen it, on purpose, but I remember there being a lot of other poker faux pas as well.

kernals12

Quote from: 1995hoo on December 08, 2024, 10:06:07 AM
Quote from: kernals12 on December 07, 2024, 11:41:47 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 07, 2024, 11:36:52 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on December 07, 2024, 11:23:56 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 07, 2024, 11:16:16 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on December 07, 2024, 10:51:03 PMCasino Royale- way too sober for a Bond film and I cannot understand why the audience is supposed to care about Vesper

Eva Green was probably enough reason for me care about several movies that were way worse than Casino Royale.  The 1967 parody version had Ursula Andress in the role oddly post Dr. No.

I find myself watching Die Another Day more often than Casino Royale.

And you want a prize for watching what a lot of people consider to be one of the worst Bond movie?  I would have thought something like Moonraker would be in your swim lane. 

According to Rotten Tomatoes, the worst Bond movie is A View to a Kill

So does that mean you're incapable of reaching your own opinion?
A person is entitled to like, or dislike, whatever movie he wants. It doesn't matter what a website's users think.

The reason why someone likes or dislikes it can be entirely random, too. For example, I happen to like watching Saturday Night Fever because several significant segments were filmed within five blocks of where my grandparents lived, so watching it is like riding a time machine back to the neighborhood I knew as a kid.

I find Die Another Day quite enjoyable. Building a giant space laser is a much more interesting Bond villain plot than winning a poker game.

Max Rockatansky

#1812
Mission Impossible has been consistently been putting out better movies since Ghost Protocol.  The exception to that being Skyfall which also happens to be one of my favorite 007 movies.  Spectre lost me when the incorporated the novel era plot point about Blofeld being 007's adoptive brother.

But yeah, Rotten Tomatoes isn't the end all be all for how someone should enjoy a movie.  What movies people like is a highly subjective thing to begin with.  There is all sorts of B movies or just plain bad ones I get way more enjoyment out of compared to stuff movie critics like. 

Scott5114

Quote from: kkt on December 08, 2024, 01:46:56 AMLas Vegas doesn't really make it as an exotic location to me.

Ever been down Nellis Boulevard after dark?
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kernals12

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 08, 2024, 11:24:18 AMMission Impossible has been consistently been putting out better movies since Ghost Protocol.  The exception to that being Skyfall which also happens to be one of my favorite 007 movies.  Spectre lost me when the incorporated the novel era plot point about Blofeld being 007's adoptive brother.

But yeah, Rotten Tomatoes isn't the end all be all for how someone should enjoy a movie.  What movies people like is a highly subjective thing to begin with.  There is all sorts of B movies or just plain bad ones I get way more enjoyment out of compared to stuff movie critics like. 

Don't get me started on Mission Impossible. Ghost Protocol had a contrived plot and didn't know the first thing about how nuclear missiles work. The most recent one; they would've been able to make it a one parter if half the run time wasn't taken up by villainous monologues

Max Rockatansky

#1816
Quote from: kernals12 on December 08, 2024, 01:09:32 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 08, 2024, 11:24:18 AMMission Impossible has been consistently been putting out better movies since Ghost Protocol.  The exception to that being Skyfall which also happens to be one of my favorite 007 movies.  Spectre lost me when the incorporated the novel era plot point about Blofeld being 007's adoptive brother.

But yeah, Rotten Tomatoes isn't the end all be all for how someone should enjoy a movie.  What movies people like is a highly subjective thing to begin with.  There is all sorts of B movies or just plain bad ones I get way more enjoyment out of compared to stuff movie critics like. 

Don't get me started on Mission Impossible. Ghost Protocol had a contrived plot and didn't know the first thing about how nuclear missiles work. The most recent one; they would've been able to make it a one parter if half the run time wasn't taken up by villainous monologues

Some people just want to enjoy a popcorn movie.  I'm happy with being entertained and hanging with my wife for a couple hours.   

I'm not a film critic nor have ambitions to be one.  What I do know is that real world accuracy (historical, scientific, or otherwise) doesn't always translate as an entertainment medium in film format.   

vdeane

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 08, 2024, 09:25:40 AMAside from GoldenEye I'm not really a fan of the Brosnan era.  GoldenEye was solid but the films got less grounded with each installment.  Tomorrow Never Dies is enjoyably silly if I'm in the mood for something campy. 
I enjoyed the Brosnan era, but then the campiness, over the top villains, and advanced spy tech are my favorite parts.  Doesn't hurt that Tomorrow Never Dies and GoldenEye were my introductions to the franchise.

Of the Craig films, No Time to Die became my favorite.  Although that might be in part because Paloma has become my favorite character.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

kkt

Quote from: Scott5114 on December 08, 2024, 12:21:19 PM
Quote from: kkt on December 08, 2024, 01:46:56 AMLas Vegas doesn't really make it as an exotic location to me.

Ever been down Nellis Boulevard after dark?

No, should I?

Scott5114

Quote from: kkt on December 08, 2024, 03:29:22 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 08, 2024, 12:21:19 PM
Quote from: kkt on December 08, 2024, 01:46:56 AMLas Vegas doesn't really make it as an exotic location to me.

Ever been down Nellis Boulevard after dark?

No, should I?


Absolutely not!

But what happens there could be called exotic...
uncontrollable freak sardine salad chef

kernals12

Open space. A few parks should provide enough of a greenery fix for most city dwellers.

Rothman

Quote from: kernals12 on December 22, 2024, 08:20:15 PMOpen space. A few parks should provide enough of a greenery fix for most city dwellers.

Go take a walk.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position(s) of NYSDOT.

TheCatalyst31

Quote from: kernals12 on December 22, 2024, 08:20:15 PMOpen space. A few parks should provide enough of a greenery fix for most city dwellers.

For once I mean this literally:

Roadgeekteen

Kernals12 is overrated
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kernals12

Quote from: Rothman on December 22, 2024, 08:37:10 PM
Quote from: kernals12 on December 22, 2024, 08:20:15 PMOpen space. A few parks should provide enough of a greenery fix for most city dwellers.

Go take a walk.

I've got plenty of places to walk. I can get a good walk in at my apartment complex.



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