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Title: Pennyrile Pkwy southern extension
Post by: Stephane Dumas on June 05, 2009, 05:34:52 PM
I wonder if there some construction pics of the Pennyrile Parkway southern extension to I-24?  Also is it built to interstate standards?
Title: Re: Pennyrile Pkwy southern extension
Post by: mightyace on June 05, 2009, 05:42:35 PM
Quote from: Stephane Dumas on June 05, 2009, 05:34:52 PM
I wonder if there some construction pics of the Pennyrile Parkway southern extension to I-24?  Also is it built to interstate standards?

You mean they've actually started that?

It's been marked as proposed on the official KY maps for the last few years now.
Title: Re: Pennyrile Pkwy southern extension
Post by: Alex on June 05, 2009, 07:03:31 PM
From a Yahoo! Southeast Roads message posted by H.B. back in January:

One big note, the Pennyrile is now finished to
US 68 By-pass in Hopkinsville, KY complete with clear view font
signs. On I-24 there is construction signs posted int eh are where
the Pennyrile is supposed to tie in but no earth moved and at the
I-64/ I-164 JCT there was some construction signs in the are but it
was dark when I passed through, this is where ground has been broken
for future I-69.
Title: Re: Pennyrile Pkwy southern extension
Post by: hbelkins on June 06, 2009, 01:22:03 AM
Quote from: AARoads on June 05, 2009, 07:03:31 PM
From a Yahoo! Southeast Roads message posted by H.B. back in January:

One big note, the Pennyrile is now finished to
US 68 By-pass in Hopkinsville, KY complete with clear view font
signs. On I-24 there is construction signs posted int eh are where
the Pennyrile is supposed to tie in but no earth moved and at the
I-64/ I-164 JCT there was some construction signs in the are but it
was dark when I passed through, this is where ground has been broken
for future I-69.


That wasn't me, but I may have replied to that post. Last time I was in the Hoptown area was on the day of Billy Riddle's trip when a bunch of us made a loop of western Kentucky and west Tennessee (with a little southern Illinois thrown in) and the route was still not open, but was under construction. (This was March 2008). As I now understand it, the route is open from Alternate US 41 to Bypass US 68. The section from Bypass 68 to I-24 is currently under construction. The route will probably be built to the standards of the current parkway, which may not meet interstate standards in terms of median width.

Future I-69 will NOT pass through Hopkinsville. It will run on the Pennyrile down to the Western Kentucky Parkway, then west on the WK and I-24 to the Purchase Parkway, then south to Tennessee.
Title: Re: Pennyrile Pkwy southern extension
Post by: Stephane Dumas on June 06, 2009, 10:00:53 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on June 06, 2009, 01:22:03 AM

Future I-69 will NOT pass through Hopkinsville. It will run on the Pennyrile down to the Western Kentucky Parkway, then west on the WK and I-24 to the Purchase Parkway, then south to Tennessee.

For IH standards widths, maybe they could close their eyes on this one and number the remaining gap of the Pennyrile as a I-x24/x29 ;)
Title: Re: Pennyrile Pkwy southern extension
Post by: hbelkins on November 29, 2009, 06:12:26 PM
Quote from: HighwayMaster on November 29, 2009, 05:22:15 PM
That's a little odd. Why don't they build a new I-69 along the US-60 corridor or something like that?

Don't know. Seems funny that Indiana is opting for a new straight-shot alignment between Evansville and Indiana rather than use existing I-70 and US 41, while Kentucky is using existing roads rather than a new alignment. It's been a few years since I have been on US 60 along the river from Henderson to Paducah, but I think quite a bit of it has been rebuilt. Plus there are plans to rebuild US 641 from its terminus at US 60 south to the WK Parkway.

On the Pennyrile subject, I drove the open new portion back in the fall. Construction is underway on the interchange with I-24 and I understand there was a decent traffic backup there today due to construction and holiday traffic.
Title: Re: Pennyrile Pkwy southern extension
Post by: Stephane Dumas on June 09, 2010, 09:52:43 PM
I spotted this info at http://www.kentuckyroads.com/news/1488.html Part of Breathitt-Pennyrile Parkwayabout the phase 2 of the extension scheduled to open.
Title: Re: Pennyrile Pkwy southern extension
Post by: SSF on July 14, 2010, 08:39:35 PM
Construction on the Pennyrile bridge over 24 is continuing, the guardrails need to be poured and it looked some of the bridge deck is still needing poured.  I cant wait til it is open as it would save me time instead of driving on that stretch of 41-Alt and having to worry about the risk of amish buggies.
Title: Re: Pennyrile Pkwy southern extension
Post by: truejd on August 12, 2010, 01:31:18 PM
Does anyone know when phase III is set to open between Lover's Lane and I-24?  It would be good to know before I head that way again in the fall.  I thought I had seen somewhere that it would be open by November but I wasn't sure.
Title: Re: Pennyrile Pkwy southern extension
Post by: RoadWarrior56 on August 12, 2010, 10:22:34 PM
I drove that stretch of I-24 in June.  There is NO WAY the Pennyrile Extension will be open all the way to I-24 for the better part of a year, if not longer, by my estimation.
Title: Re: Pennyrile Pkwy southern extension
Post by: hbelkins on November 17, 2010, 09:12:41 PM
Heard today in a meeting in Frankfort that both the Pennyrile extension from Bypass 68 to I-24, and the widened US 68/KY 80 in Land Between the Lakes, could be open by the end of the year.

Also heard that the Natcher Parkway extension in Bowling Green will be open next summer, after which time the I-65/US 231 Scottsville Road interchange will be rebuilt, most likely as a SPUI with wider exit ramps.
Title: Re: Pennyrile Pkwy southern extension
Post by: ShawnP on November 17, 2010, 09:32:17 PM
Scottsville Road is definitely needed as traffic is starting to back up onto I-65 with all the traffic.
Title: Re: Pennyrile Pkwy southern extension
Post by: wriddle082 on November 18, 2010, 02:54:38 PM
H.B., let me know as soon as the Pennyrile extension and widened 68/80 open up.  I probably live the closest to both of them, and I can try to swing up and get photos one day.
Title: Re: Pennyrile Pkwy southern extension
Post by: ShawnP on November 18, 2010, 08:14:33 PM
I visit BG alot for time with family so I will give a report.
Title: Re: Pennyrile Pkwy southern extension
Post by: hbelkins on November 18, 2010, 08:52:21 PM
Quote from: wriddle082 on November 18, 2010, 02:54:38 PM
H.B., let me know as soon as the Pennyrile extension and widened 68/80 open up.  I probably live the closest to both of them, and I can try to swing up and get photos one day.

Since we have a goobernatorial ;-) election coming up next year, I suspect there will be ribbon-cutting ceremonies for both roads.
Title: Re: Pennyrile Pkwy southern extension
Post by: ShawnP on November 18, 2010, 09:16:34 PM
Speaking of a certain Gooberner. I am so tired of them text and driving lectures on the radio. Today will driving I counted 8 lectures from him. Texting and driving is stupid yes but stop the lectures PLEASE.
Title: Re: Pennyrile Pkwy southern extension
Post by: hbelkins on November 23, 2010, 02:41:18 PM
Quote from: wriddle082 on November 18, 2010, 02:54:38 PM
H.B., let me know as soon as the Pennyrile extension and widened 68/80 open up.  I probably live the closest to both of them, and I can try to swing up and get photos one day.

The westernmost part of 68/80 (from the Kentucky Lake bridge to The Trace) is supposed to open next week.
Title: Re: Pennyrile Pkwy southern extension
Post by: froggie on November 25, 2010, 12:34:05 PM
QuoteSpeaking of a certain Gooberner. I am so tired of them text and driving lectures on the radio. Today will driving I counted 8 lectures from him. Texting and driving is stupid yes but stop the lectures PLEASE.

The lectures will stop when the activity stops.  Good luck with that...
Title: Re: Pennyrile Pkwy southern extension
Post by: ShawnP on November 26, 2010, 04:31:20 PM
The activity will always occur because it's a free society. However as one who doesn't do it. I would like to keep the lectures at a maximum of no more than 1-2 a day on the same radio station (I listen to the same sports radio station every day out of Louisville).
Title: Re: Pennyrile Pkwy southern extension
Post by: RoadWarrior56 on December 27, 2010, 12:09:22 PM
Any date announced yet as to when the Pennyrile will be completed to I-24?  I drove through there in late November, even the striping seemed to be on parts of it.
Title: Re: Pennyrile Pkwy southern extension
Post by: hbelkins on December 27, 2010, 08:58:05 PM
Quote from: RoadWarrior56 on December 27, 2010, 12:09:22 PM
Any date announced yet as to when the Pennyrile will be completed to I-24?  I drove through there in late November, even the striping seemed to be on parts of it.

Possibly in February, according to something I heard last week.
Title: Re: Pennyrile Pkwy southern extension
Post by: wriddle082 on December 28, 2010, 08:28:21 PM
If I'm not mistaken, this will be only the second true freeway opening in KY since they finished the Gene Snyder Freeway (I-265) in 1988.  The previous one was the first new section of the Pennyrile from US 68 Bypass to Alt. US 41.

Since it was nearly dark when I drove that short new section, I can't remember whether or not the median is "parkway width" or "interstate width".  Anyone happen to notice which it is?
Title: Re: Pennyrile Pkwy southern extension
Post by: RoadWarrior56 on December 28, 2010, 08:47:40 PM
It is "Parkway" width, in otherwords, the short section that is already open appears to be the same width as the section completed back in 1969.
Title: Re: Pennyrile Pkwy southern extension
Post by: hbelkins on December 28, 2010, 11:32:45 PM
Quote from: wriddle082 on December 28, 2010, 08:28:21 PM
If I'm not mistaken, this will be only the second true freeway opening in KY since they finished the Gene Snyder Freeway (I-265) in 1988.

Unless you want to count the new section of the Cumberland Parkway, a/k/a "I-66" in Pulaski County. The new section is full freeway to US 27 and the section it bypassed/replaced had a couple of at-grade intersections.
Title: Re: Pennyrile Pkwy southern extension
Post by: wriddle082 on December 29, 2010, 12:43:54 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on December 28, 2010, 11:32:45 PM
Quote from: wriddle082 on December 28, 2010, 08:28:21 PM
If I'm not mistaken, this will be only the second true freeway opening in KY since they finished the Gene Snyder Freeway (I-265) in 1988.

Unless you want to count the new section of the Cumberland Parkway, a/k/a "I-66" in Pulaski County. The new section is full freeway to US 27 and the section it bypassed/replaced had a couple of at-grade intersections.

You are absolutely correct!  I haven't been to that area since the Somerset meet, but I recently had to inform my youngest brother who lives in Lexington about the new road since he was traveling from there to Nashville via Somerset.

So if I'm not mistaken, here is a recent list of true freeway openings in KY:

* 1988: completion of I-265 around Louisville (this section has even had pavement rehabilitation performed on it in the past few years)
* 2009 or 2010: Pennyrile Pkwy extension from Bypass US 68 to Alt US 41 in Hopkinsville
* 2010: Cumberland Parkway "Future I-66" extension in Somerset
* 2011: Pennyrile Pkwy extension from I-24 to Bypass US 68
Title: Re: Pennyrile Pkwy southern extension
Post by: mightyace on January 10, 2011, 01:02:37 PM
^^^

I don't remember.  Will the Natcher extension near Bowling Green be finished this year, next year, or sometime later?
Title: Re: Pennyrile Pkwy southern extension
Post by: hbelkins on January 10, 2011, 02:05:15 PM
Quote from: mightyace on January 10, 2011, 01:02:37 PM
^^^

I don't remember.  Will the Natcher extension near Bowling Green be finished this year, next year, or sometime later?

Late this year, I believe. Most of the grade work is done.
Title: Re: Pennyrile Pkwy southern extension
Post by: hbelkins on January 16, 2011, 12:08:33 PM
Hearing a mid-February opening for the Pennyrile extension, which must mean that all the paving work got done last fall and they must be waiting for guardrail, signage, striping or some such to be finished.
Title: Re: Pennyrile Pkwy southern extension
Post by: SSF on January 16, 2011, 02:35:58 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on January 16, 2011, 12:08:33 PM
Hearing a mid-February opening for the Pennyrile extension, which must mean that all the paving work got done last fall and they must be waiting for guardrail, signage, striping or some such to be finished.

all the way down to 24? fantastic news. will save me the worry of hitting of those buggies I am told i need to watch out for on 41 Alternate. 
Title: Re: Pennyrile Pkwy southern extension
Post by: codyg1985 on January 17, 2011, 12:41:45 PM
I rode through there early Friday night, and all of the striping and lighting and signing seems to be in place along I-24, but the new road is still closed.

The control city is simply "Hopkinsville."
Title: Re: Pennyrile Pkwy southern extension
Post by: wriddle082 on January 17, 2011, 08:34:58 PM
Quote from: codyg1985 on January 17, 2011, 12:41:45 PM
I rode through there early Friday night, and all of the striping and lighting and signing seems to be in place along I-24, but the new road is still closed.

The control city is simply "Hopkinsville."

I noticed that too when I went through there early last month.  I was eastbound on 24, and simply having Hopkinsville as the control city would make sense, but I'm wondering if the westbound 24 signage would at least have auxiliary control cities of Madisonville, Henderson, and Evansville.
Title: Re: Pennyrile Pkwy southern extension
Post by: hbelkins on January 17, 2011, 10:53:08 PM
Quote from: wriddle082 on January 17, 2011, 08:34:58 PM

I noticed that too when I went through there early last month.  I was eastbound on 24, and simply having Hopkinsville as the control city would make sense, but I'm wondering if the westbound 24 signage would at least have auxiliary control cities of Madisonville, Henderson, and Evansville.


If I'm not mistaken, there's no mention of Henderson or Evansville on the Western Kentucky Parkway at the Pennyrile exit. I think it's signed only for Madisonville and Hopkinsville.
Title: Re: Pennyrile Pkwy southern extension
Post by: truejd on February 01, 2011, 01:45:18 PM
Anything new on when the new segment will officially open to I-24?  I hear the weather up there has been bad recently.  Didn't know if that would hold things up at all.
Title: Re: Pennyrile Pkwy southern extension
Post by: RoadWarrior56 on February 25, 2011, 10:18:26 PM
It looks like the rest of the Pennyrile Extension will open the afternoon of Tuesday March 1.  See the attached article.

http://www.publicbroadcasting.net/wkms/news.newsmain/article/0/5666/1765914/Regional.Headlines/Parkway.Extension.to.Open.Next.Week
Title: Re: Pennyrile Pkwy southern extension
Post by: hbelkins on February 25, 2011, 11:10:54 PM
Yes, that's correct. Heard about this last week but forgot to post it here.
Title: Re: Pennyrile Pkwy southern extension
Post by: RoadWarrior56 on March 02, 2011, 07:32:42 AM
Pennyrile Parkway Extension finally opened in its entirety yesterday.  I have attached an article that contains photos.

http://isurfhopkins.com/local-news/10003-roadway-linking-pennyrile-parkway-to-i-24-opens-at-hopkinsville.html?tmpl=component
Title: Re: Pennyrile Pkwy southern extension
Post by: Alex on March 02, 2011, 02:16:32 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.isurfhopkins.com%2Fimages%2Fstories%2Farticle_specific%2F2011_03%2Fpadnash5.JPG&hash=03c4a6222d62ff235b0b8abffba4a93e60b69b34)

Is that the final configuration for the ramp from Interstate 24 onto the Pennyrile? If so, it looks awfully substandard.
Title: If it is
Post by: ShawnP on March 02, 2011, 03:05:32 PM
Someone should be moving to Eastern Kentucky as punishment from KYTC. I would suggest a 3 year post in Pike County designing gravel roads.
Title: Re: Pennyrile Pkwy southern extension
Post by: agentsteel53 on March 02, 2011, 03:21:19 PM
well, they made the third lane extremely short because that parkway shield is so illegible that you won't know that you need to get off until you're within 12 feet of it.
Title: Re: Pennyrile Pkwy southern extension
Post by: hbelkins on March 02, 2011, 03:26:53 PM
My guess is that is the ramp from eastbound I-24 to the northbound parkway, as that would be the loop in the trumpet interchange that is most commonly used at one of the parkway ends. That movement would have less traffic than any of the other movements at the inter change. Traffic going from eastbound I-24 to Hoptown would use US 68/KY east at the Cadiz exit.
Title: Re: Pennyrile Pkwy southern extension
Post by: NE2 on March 02, 2011, 03:42:51 PM
Look at the lane stripes. That photo is rather foreshortened.
Title: Re: Pennyrile Pkwy southern extension
Post by: mgk920 on March 03, 2011, 10:12:29 AM
Quote from: NE2 on March 02, 2011, 03:42:51 PM
Look at the lane stripes. That photo is rather foreshortened.
Agreed, there's LOTS of telephoto compression at work in that image.

Mike
Title: Re: Pennyrile Pkwy southern extension
Post by: Mr_Northside on March 03, 2011, 02:15:41 PM
Yeah... and that web page has a picture looking at it "wrong-way" (with the crew working on the lights) and it doesn't look that bad. 

(I'm also sure if it were as bad as it looked, the ramp SL would be less than 35mph.)
Title: Re: Pennyrile Pkwy southern extension
Post by: NE2 on March 30, 2011, 12:46:09 AM
rickmastfan67 added it to OSM: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=36.7964&lon=-87.4909&zoom=13&layers=M
Title: Re: Pennyrile Pkwy southern extension
Post by: Alex on June 24, 2011, 07:36:35 PM
Quote from: Alex on March 02, 2011, 02:16:32 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.isurfhopkins.com%2Fimages%2Fstories%2Farticle_specific%2F2011_03%2Fpadnash5.JPG&hash=03c4a6222d62ff235b0b8abffba4a93e60b69b34)

Is that the final configuration for the ramp from Interstate 24 onto the Pennyrile? If so, it looks awfully substandard.

Even worse, no acceleration lane from Interstate 24 west onto the Pennyrile Parkway northbound:

(//www.aaroads.com/forum_images/southeast/i-024_wb_exit_081.jpg) (//www.aaroads.com/forum_images/southeast/i-024_wb_exit_081.jpg)
Title: Re: Pennyrile Pkwy southern extension
Post by: ktodd on June 27, 2011, 05:20:49 PM
Just so you'll know, the Breathitt-Pennyrile Parkway has been extended to connect directly with Interstate 24.  The 6-mile long extension in 3 phases provides a direct high-speed connection for through-traffic. It allows drivers to avoid heavy traffic and 8 traffic signals along US 41-Alternate.
Title: Re: Pennyrile Pkwy southern extension
Post by: NE2 on June 27, 2011, 05:35:36 PM
Quote from: ktodd on June 27, 2011, 05:20:49 PM
Just so you'll know, the Breathitt-Pennyrile Parkway has been extended to connect directly with Interstate 24.  The 6-mile long extension in 3 phases provides a direct high-speed connection for through-traffic. It allows drivers to avoid heavy traffic and 8 traffic signals along US 41-Alternate.
wtf?
Title: Re: Pennyrile Pkwy southern extension
Post by: hbelkins on June 27, 2011, 11:56:22 PM
Quote from: ktodd on June 27, 2011, 05:20:49 PM
Just so you'll know, the Breathitt-Pennyrile Parkway has been extended to connect directly with Interstate 24.  The 6-mile long extension in 3 phases provides a direct high-speed connection for through-traffic. It allows drivers to avoid heavy traffic and 8 traffic signals along US 41-Alternate.

Should I "out" you or not? ;-)
Title: Re: Pennyrile Pkwy southern extension
Post by: seicer on June 30, 2011, 06:51:18 PM
The ramps are no more "substandard" than other interstate/parkway to interstate/parkway ramps in the state. The top photo was taken with a telephoto lens, which can distort the distance or curvature in an image. The 35 MPH ramp is for the loop. As for the second image, the ramp is just like any other - 70 MPH SL to a 70 MPH ramp.
Title: Re: Pennyrile Pkwy southern extension
Post by: HighwayMaster on July 18, 2011, 03:04:28 PM
Kentucky does not usually put deceleration lanes on exits, so this is not abnormal. Besides, not very many motorists will use the 24E to Pkwy. N ramp, KY-80/US-68 is the most direct route from 24E to Hopkinsville.
Title: Re: Pennyrile Pkwy southern extension
Post by: Alex on November 09, 2011, 08:50:52 AM
Quote from: HighwayMaster on July 18, 2011, 03:04:28 PM
Kentucky does not usually put deceleration lanes on exits, so this is not abnormal.

The eastbound ramp to the northbound Pennyrile does include a deceleration lane:

(//www.aaroads.com/forum_images/southeast/i-024_eb_exit_081_01.jpg) (//www.aaroads.com/forum_images/southeast/i-024_eb_exit_081_01.jpg)

Photo taken November 7, 2011.