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Title: Private BGS
Post by: Pete from Boston on April 14, 2014, 11:40:24 PM
I pass by this ridiculous thing from time to time, in a U-Haul parking lot in Somerville, Mass.:

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3815/13862658485_bf1ff37f83.jpg)

What other examples are there of private entities taking it upon themselves to throw up a gantry or whatever and play highway?
Title: Re: Private BGS
Post by: corco on April 14, 2014, 11:43:51 PM
That is among the most amazing things I have ever seen
Title: Re: Private BGS
Post by: sammi on April 14, 2014, 11:53:24 PM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on April 14, 2014, 11:40:24 PM
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3815/13862658485_bf1ff37f83.jpg)

You can never have the word EXIT too many times. :pan:

Most private signage that I've seen don't qualify as BGS though (e.g. airport signage).
Title: Re: Private BGS
Post by: PurdueBill on April 18, 2014, 05:33:58 PM
Find out who made that for them and have that firm take over signage from the MDC/DCR!!!
Title: Re: Private BGS
Post by: Alex on April 19, 2014, 11:26:02 AM
Delaware Park has two of their own:

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.693588,-75.66975,3a,75y,112.86h,84.85t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s5C0uYfMgSx2IJmt52SwsJw!2e0

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.709176,-75.655457,3a,75y,84.17h,90.35t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sceR5JN-3p4cKit_0X8jowQ!2e0

These were much better (with more realistic shields) before they were replaced sometime around 2000.
Title: Re: Private BGS
Post by: Zeffy on April 19, 2014, 11:49:20 AM
Quote from: Alex on April 19, 2014, 11:26:02 AM
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.709176,-75.655457,3a,75y,84.17h,90.35t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sceR5JN-3p4cKit_0X8jowQ!2e0
These were much better (with more realistic shields) before they were replaced sometime around 2000.

Shouldn't this one have been placed at the split and not before it?
Title: Re: Private BGS
Post by: Pete from Boston on April 19, 2014, 01:46:49 PM
Quote from: Alex on April 19, 2014, 11:26:02 AM
Delaware Park has two of their own:

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.693588,-75.66975,3a,75y,112.86h,84.85t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s5C0uYfMgSx2IJmt52SwsJw!2e0

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.709176,-75.655457,3a,75y,84.17h,90.35t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sceR5JN-3p4cKit_0X8jowQ!2e0

These were much better (with more realistic shields) before they were replaced sometime around 2000.

This makes my eyes hurt.
Title: Re: Private BGS
Post by: realjd on April 19, 2014, 08:28:45 PM
Disney's aren't green but they serve the same role as private BGSs:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.wdwmagic.com%2Fimgstore%2FElementGalleryItems%2Fattractions%2FFullsize%2FDisneys-Hollywood-Studios_Full_3071.jpg&hash=910c238979752cd23bf81828f8228d4b36bbc453)

To be fair, most are posted by the RCID on public roads on Disney property so they may not actually qualify as private.
Title: Re: Private BGS
Post by: jeffandnicole on April 20, 2014, 01:42:32 PM
Quote from: Alex on April 19, 2014, 11:26:02 AM
Delaware Park has two of their own:

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.693588,-75.66975,3a,75y,112.86h,84.85t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s5C0uYfMgSx2IJmt52SwsJw!2e0

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.709176,-75.655457,3a,75y,84.17h,90.35t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sceR5JN-3p4cKit_0X8jowQ!2e0

These were much better (with more realistic shields) before they were replaced sometime around 2000.

Lincoln Financial Field in Philly (where the Eagles play) had something similar as one would leave their main parking lot (Unfortunately I don't have a picture), detailing directions to several highways/roadway.  The problem was, this particular exit is usually blocked off after a game, rendering the sign useless. When the exit is open after a game, traffic would be forced to turn right anyway to prevent left turning traffic from blocking the roadway, again rendering the sign useless.
Title: Re: Private BGS
Post by: Pete from Boston on April 20, 2014, 05:04:46 PM

Quote from: realjd on April 19, 2014, 08:28:45 PM
Disney's aren't green but they serve the same role as private BGSs:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.wdwmagic.com%2Fimgstore%2FElementGalleryItems%2Fattractions%2FFullsize%2FDisneys-Hollywood-Studios_Full_3071.jpg&hash=910c238979752cd23bf81828f8228d4b36bbc453)

To be fair, most are posted by the RCID on public roads on Disney property so they may not actually qualify as private.

To be fair, isn't the RCID just a representative of the landowner within its borders, i.e. Disney?
Title: Re: Private BGS
Post by: formulanone on April 22, 2014, 07:25:46 PM
This Dodge dealership (http://goo.gl/maps/wunrx) outside West Palm Beach:

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.formulanone.org%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F08%2FArrigoSigns1.jpg&hash=2bab06dc5759e43bd400bc1471435f3e423bba2b)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.formulanone.org%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F08%2FArrigoSigns2.jpg&hash=32b592cff9cb027f1be53adbef02fc4496494943)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.formulanone.org%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F08%2FArrigoSigns3.jpg&hash=cdab9dc72db32cabc1fe003bf1c692e29b71b248)
Title: Re: Private BGS
Post by: talllguy on May 13, 2014, 04:15:38 PM
Towson Town Center, Towson, Md. (A large shopping center). I love love love how they used "BELTWAY" on the shield.  :pan:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7454/14156564926_0acf050d9c_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/nyY6xC)
Private BGS (https://flic.kr/p/nyY6xC) by Elliott Plack (https://www.flickr.com/people/88483799@N00/), on Flickr

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5191/14176425671_4e861142c4_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/nAHTsg)
Beltway (https://flic.kr/p/nAHTsg) by Elliott Plack (https://www.flickr.com/people/88483799@N00/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Private BGS
Post by: thenetwork on May 13, 2014, 08:33:41 PM
Here's one from some rinky-dink amusement park in Northern Ohio:   ;-)

https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=41.45151,-82.674054&spn=0.327319,0.837021&cbll=41.45151,-82.674054&layer=c&panoid=3jMc09tKpV3IXAlHJfZrRA&cbp=12,176.81,,0,0.13&t=m&z=11

Title: Re: Private BGS
Post by: jakeroot on May 13, 2014, 11:15:02 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on May 13, 2014, 08:33:41 PM
Here's one from some rinky-dink amusement park in Northern Ohio:   ;-)

https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=41.45151,-82.674054&spn=0.327319,0.837021&cbll=41.45151,-82.674054&layer=c&panoid=3jMc09tKpV3IXAlHJfZrRA&cbp=12,176.81,,0,0.13&t=m&z=11

About as good as I would expect from an amusement park, which isn't saying much because it actually looks pretty darn good.
Title: Re: Private BGS
Post by: thenetwork on May 14, 2014, 11:38:14 AM
Quote from: jake on May 13, 2014, 11:15:02 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on May 13, 2014, 08:33:41 PM
Here's one from some rinky-dink amusement park in Northern Ohio:   ;-)

https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=41.45151,-82.674054&spn=0.327319,0.837021&cbll=41.45151,-82.674054&layer=c&panoid=3jMc09tKpV3IXAlHJfZrRA&cbp=12,176.81,,0,0.13&t=m&z=11

About as good as I would expect from an amusement park, which isn't saying much because it actually looks pretty darn good.

They used to have a whole slew of wooden overhead BGSs along the entire causeway, and in the parking area they had some of the nicest looking big green EXIT signs (about 30-some years ago).

Back to the modern signs, there are 2-3 more sets south of the link above, but GSV blurred many of the shields.  BTW, it's not often you find any signs for 3 even-numbered routes in-a-row together (SR-2, SR-4, US-6).
Title: Re: Private BGS
Post by: Pete from Boston on October 03, 2014, 11:54:09 AM
I'm not sure at all about these:

(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2947/15429192495_a9db360d6e.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/93617544@N08/15429192495/)

(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2941/15242647157_c57d0af21b.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/93617544@N08/15242647157/)
Stockwell Drive, Stoughton, Mass. (https://www.flickr.com/photos/93617544@N08/15242647157/)

They are on a road that exists almost entirely to serve the retail businesses that are its only abutters, and they're blue.  But down in the bottom left-hand corner is what looks like the date and dimension text customarily found on MassDOT signs.
Title: Re: Private BGS
Post by: Brandon on October 03, 2014, 12:00:39 PM
Quote from: jake on May 13, 2014, 11:15:02 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on May 13, 2014, 08:33:41 PM
Here's one from some rinky-dink amusement park in Northern Ohio:   ;-)

https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=41.45151,-82.674054&spn=0.327319,0.837021&cbll=41.45151,-82.674054&layer=c&panoid=3jMc09tKpV3IXAlHJfZrRA&cbp=12,176.81,,0,0.13&t=m&z=11

About as good as I would expect from an amusement park, which isn't saying much because it actually looks pretty darn good.

Some rinky-dink amusement park - LOL!  :-D

It's only bigger than any one of the Disney parks with more rides than two of them put together.
Title: Re: Private BGS
Post by: NE2 on October 03, 2014, 12:08:12 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alpsroads.net%2Froads%2Fma%2Fus_44%2Feglobe.jpg&hash=846eb97bb4d23ddf4e871a71ecca86189bbb609b)
from http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/ma/us_44/
Title: Re: Private BGS
Post by: NE2 on October 03, 2014, 12:21:15 PM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on April 20, 2014, 05:04:46 PM

Quote from: realjd on April 19, 2014, 08:28:45 PM
Disney's aren't green but they serve the same role as private BGSs:

To be fair, most are posted by the RCID on public roads on Disney property so they may not actually qualify as private.

To be fair, isn't the RCID just a representative of the landowner within its borders, i.e. Disney?

Yes, but the roads are legally public.

The exact same standards are used on RCID roads and Disney roads open to guests (e.g. World Drive north of Epcot Center Drive). Private roads intended for employees only have normal sign assemblies (http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=28.423835,-81.579001&spn=0.006746,0.012392&gl=us&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=28.42382,-81.578799&panoid=vP7DZ5GIh2-3GBU1850UQw&cbp=12,351.03,,0,3.61) or tiny signs more like other private roads (http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=28.395695,-81.532685&spn=0.006786,0.012392&gl=us&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=28.395598,-81.532684&panoid=hEqgzW2ARudPoAXIPG0C4w&cbp=12,38.99,,2,2.74) where anything is posted.
Title: Re: Private BGS
Post by: Brandon on October 03, 2014, 01:02:05 PM
Quote from: NE2 on October 03, 2014, 12:08:12 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alpsroads.net%2Froads%2Fma%2Fus_44%2Feglobe.jpg&hash=846eb97bb4d23ddf4e871a71ecca86189bbb609b)
from http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/ma/us_44/

Talk about sign reuse!
Title: Re: Private BGS
Post by: Michael on October 03, 2014, 06:31:27 PM
Here's one (https://maps.google.com/?ll=42.96589,-76.846933&spn=0.002862,0.005681&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=42.96589,-76.846933&panoid=m7SwUxs5IPuGzomQwuhQAA&cbp=12,76.81,,1,-6.06) at the Petro Stopping Center just off of Exit 41 on the NY Thruway.  This is straight across NY 414 from the exit ramp.
Title: Re: Private BGS
Post by: formulanone on October 03, 2014, 07:05:50 PM
(https://farm7.staticflickr.com/6132/5979582973_8b4b7aac5c_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/a7oVGa)
Church of Christ - Spartanburg, SC
Title: Re: Private BGS
Post by: Zeffy on October 03, 2014, 07:12:07 PM
Quote from: formulanone on October 03, 2014, 07:05:50 PM
http://flic.kr/p/a7oVGa

Church of Christ - Spartanburg, SC

It's button copy. Looks like Series D(M) button copy no less. How the hell does that end up happening?
Title: Re: Private BGS
Post by: adventurernumber1 on October 03, 2014, 07:19:57 PM
Quote from: formulanone on October 03, 2014, 07:05:50 PM
http://flic.kr/p/a7oVGa

Church of Christ - Spartanburg, SC

That might be a Church full of roadgeeks (not being realistic, but that would be very cool if there was a Church full of Roadgeeks that had that button copy sign)  :-D
Title: Re: Private BGS
Post by: NE2 on October 03, 2014, 10:04:51 PM
Probably acquired a sign with all the necessary letters.

Disney has a button copy sign (or it might be older cat's eye reflectors), but the Goog's photo (http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=28.361566,-81.553413&spn=0.001688,0.003098&gl=us&t=m&z=19&layer=c&cbll=28.361589,-81.553308&panoid=QVF7cw_kJpyd10AC1C1GhA&cbp=12,292.95,,1,-0.12) sucks and I can't find my photo.
Title: Re: Private BGS
Post by: SignGeek101 on October 03, 2014, 10:15:16 PM
Quote from: adventurernumber1 on October 03, 2014, 07:19:57 PM
Quote from: formulanone on October 03, 2014, 07:05:50 PM
http://flic.kr/p/a7oVGa

Church of Christ - Spartanburg, SC

That might be a Church full of roadgeeks (not being realistic, but that would be very cool if there was a Church full of Roadgeeks that had that button copy sign)  :-D

Perhaps the pastor or priest is a roadgeek? I don't think it would be too unrealistic to suggest it. Why would a church have a button copy sign? Surely interesting.
Title: Re: Private BGS
Post by: DaBigE on October 03, 2014, 11:56:31 PM
Maybe they were looking for a relatively cheap sign they wouldn't have to illuminate? Or one of their members works for a sign company that got them a great deal on some surplus sign material.
Title: Re: Private BGS
Post by: Pete from Boston on October 06, 2014, 11:18:35 AM
I tried to ask, but:

"Sorry, we were unable to deliver your message to the following address.

<info@spartanburgchurch.org>:
Mail server for "spartanburgchurch.org" unreachable for too long :"
Title: Re: Private BGS
Post by: SteveG1988 on October 06, 2014, 12:20:43 PM
Hershey Park has a ride called the "Twin Turnpike"

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi41.tinypic.com%2Fifwjg9.jpg&hash=a85e94a11607e7c7dddb6343239e82e11168416e)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.tinypic.com%2Fxb00hk.jpg&hash=1972ab47db257bed60de009a04360bb2e3387597)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.ytimg.com%2Fvi%2Fg1XlA7feFuE%2F0.jpg&hash=6f360af36decc9dab9d1ab11f6ee0a3f1f655dff)

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amusementparkmom.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F05%2F2011-10-14_17-37-30_572.jpg&hash=9634f4ee22e63439407ae12de53267a0db3cd984)



Title: Re: Private BGS
Post by: AMLNet49 on October 06, 2014, 04:02:14 PM
Quote from: NE2 on October 03, 2014, 12:08:12 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alpsroads.net%2Froads%2Fma%2Fus_44%2Feglobe.jpg&hash=846eb97bb4d23ddf4e871a71ecca86189bbb609b)
from http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/ma/us_44/

I was shocked when I scrolled down and saw this. This sign is legit 10 minutes from my house and I drove past it every day on the way to school. There is actually another Globe Liquors in Fall River that also uses this style of sign. Basically what it is, is that Globe bought old button copy signs that the then-MassHighway took down, had reflective copy made, and mounted back to back (one facing one direction, one facing the other).  It really works as an identifier and makes it stand out in an area of a ton of stores. The one in Fall River also uses back to back signs, one of which faces an access road to a highway on-ramp thus appearing to a ton of traffic.
Title: Re: Private BGS
Post by: thenetwork on October 06, 2014, 08:28:46 PM
Quote from: SteveG1988 on October 06, 2014, 12:20:43 PM
Hershey Park has a ride called the "Twin Turnpike"

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi41.tinypic.com%2Fifwjg9.jpg&hash=a85e94a11607e7c7dddb6343239e82e11168416e)


I think the kids should petition Hershey Park to raise the speed limit on that stretch to 70 MPH!   :bigass:

I also think the "passenger station" where they stop to load and unload riders should be marked as the Breezewood Exit. :rofl:

Kennywood also had a Turnpike ride as well.  The signs were not as elaborate, though.
Title: Re: Private BGS
Post by: Brian556 on October 06, 2014, 08:41:20 PM
Sanger, Texas:

https://maps.google.com/?ll=33.312975,-97.183074&spn=0.000009,0.006196&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=33.31293,-97.183144&panoid=DcNM20UBj0ypfde5pyuQGQ&cbp=12,321.57,,1,15 (https://maps.google.com/?ll=33.312975,-97.183074&spn=0.000009,0.006196&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=33.31293,-97.183144&panoid=DcNM20UBj0ypfde5pyuQGQ&cbp=12,321.57,,1,15)
Title: Re: Private BGS
Post by: Roadsguy on October 10, 2014, 09:53:34 AM
Hershey Park itself has some accurate BGSes at the entrance, with Highway Gothic and everything. Unfortunately, this (http://goo.gl/maps/ewWg3) is the best picture I could get on Street View. I just love how they gave Chocolate World a brown sign. :clap: