In Washington, non-Intersate Freeways/Highways don't have exit numbers. However, I was just going over things I had, and remembered that the Sunset Freeway (US 26) West of Portland, OR, and OR 217 do have numbered Exits, as does Michigan and California. Is this wide spread and Washington is odd, or vice-versa?
Numbered exits on non-Interstates are usually not a thing out here. NJ 42 and DE 1 are exceptions. The Garden State Parkway and the NJ Turnpike I guess qualify as well.
Numbered exits on non-Interstates seem not at all unusual; that might be something where states go both ways. UT 67, and the freeway segment at the west end of CA 299 as well as most of CA 99, come quickly to mind.
In Alaska, the only numbered exits in the entire state are on a road (Johansen Expressway in Fairbanks) that not only isn't an Interstate, it doesn't even have a signed state route number.
This topic (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=1901.0) has come up in the past.
Pennsylvania does in some cases, but not universally.
For example, none of US 15's freeway sections (except the short I-180 overlap in Williamsport) have exit numbers, whereas the US 6 freeway northeast of Scranton does have numbered exits–even though that segment is numbered sequentially and mileposted without regard to its mileage throughout the rest of the state.
The US 220 freeway between Mill Hall and Linden is now signed with exit numbers which are mileage-based and continue where I-99's interchange numbers would resume assuming an overlap with I-80. And yet, where I-99 is slated to continue along the US 15 freeway north of Williamsport, exits are not numbered, even though some guide signs have blank exit tabs and space for a three-digit exit number to be added.
PA 33, which is a freeway from end to end, does not have exit numbers, while the exits on the freeway portion of PA 28 do, albeit sequential ones.
Interestingly, PennDOT only includes Interstate exit numbers on its official state map. Even if non-Interstates' exits are numbered, they're not shown.
Wisconsin regularly does this for non-Interstate freeways and expressways.
Georgia does this for GA 400 and US 78, but kept sequential numbering for them.
The latest MUTCD says it should be done. Florida does it on most toll roads but not free roads.
SR 3 and SR 16 have some numbered exits: https://www.google.com/maps/@47.545657,-122.673847,3a,26.3y,30.58h,96.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1smp4TkZyqjLHG-vXKK4J0CA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Many freeways outside the US :bigass:
Seriously though, FL 528 has numbered exits when I went there in 2008/9.
These all do:
MA 2
US 3
MA 3
NH 16
MA 24
MA 25
NH 101
MA 128
MA 140
MA 213
Everett Turnpike
It's actually unusual for a numbered highway with several exits not to have numbered exits.
Freeways or other interchanges without exit numbers:
MA 125 at MA 28 (single interchange, neither road is a freeway)
US 4 at NH 155A, 155, and 108 (expressway, not freeway)
MA 57 (legitimate example)
MA 116 (single interchange)
Plimoth Plantation Highway (unnumbered route)
Storrow Drive / Soldiers Field Road (unnumbered route)
Bypass of Keene, NH
1, you beat me to the punch.
Here's a few from MA you missed:
US 6/Mid-Cape Highway
Freeway portions of MA 146 (added within the last few years)
Lowell Connector
For NH, don't forget the Spaulding Turnpike.
Quote from: briantroutman on July 24, 2015, 04:38:26 PM
This topic (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=1901.0) has come up in the past.
A more challenging topic would be what
Interstates have no exit numbers?
Most NY parkways have numbered exits.
The freeway/expressway section of US 1 between the Tobin Bridge and the Danvers/Topsfield line doesn't have exit numbers.
From my observations over the years, the use of exit numbers on such roads is not at all uncommon, but it seems to be most common when the whole road is "freeway" grade. Virginia State Route 267, the Dulles Toll Road and Greenway, is a good example–it's better than some Interstates I've driven and it has exit numbers. The Durham Freeway, NC-147, is another; I lived right by Exit 15A for three years. The Bee Line (FL-528) has been mentioned already. Then you have the Garden State Parkway as another example.
It seems to me to be less common–I deliberately do not say "uncommon" or "nonexistent"–when a road transitions, either permanently or back and forth, between "freeway" grade and some other class of road. (An example of a road that changes back and forth is US-29 in Virginia, which has "freeway" sections, "expressway" sections, urban and suburban arterial sections, and at least one two-lane road section through the Manassas Battlefield from the War Between the States, and nowhere does it have exit numbers that I can recall. BTW, I put "freeway" and "expressway" in quotation marks to denote the technical terms since those usages are uncommon here.) Of course, there are exceptions; I recall US-15/501 in Durham had exit numbers on the bypass segment near Duke University when I attended said school in the 1990s, though there were no exit numbers on either road beyond the ends of said segment (except the obvious exception of the I-85 concurrency). We can always find exceptions, so I'm not saying "it never happens" or the like.
Then you have some of Nova Scotia's 100-series highways. Some of the "exit" numbers on those are not what most of us would consider "exits" since they're at-grade intersections (Route 103 heading around from Yarmouth towards Lunenburg and Halifax is an example), though others are in fact interchanges.
Quote from: PHLBOS on July 24, 2015, 05:45:32 PM
Quote from: briantroutman on July 24, 2015, 04:38:26 PM
This topic (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=1901.0) has come up in the past.
A more challenging topic would be what Interstates have no exit numbers?
Up until PennDOT converted to mileage-based exit numbering in 2001, I-180 lacked exit numbers.
I-180 was my hometown interstate as a very young child, and when I finally saw I-80 for the first time around age four and discovered that the exits had the added bonus of exit
numbers, I immediately assumed that 2DIs had exit numbers while 3DIs lacked them. Of course I quickly learned otherwise once I got my first atlas.
As to why I-180's exits weren't numbered–I always assumed that PennDOT was waiting for the entire 80-to-80 loop (the Susquehanna Beltway–"the Beltway" , as locals still call it) to be completed first. Perhaps pressured by local leaders to get red and blue shields in Williamsport, PennDOT designated the half that was completed as I-180 in 1984, but the fact that they didn't bother numbering the exits at that time suggests that they still had some notion that the two gaps in the western half of the Susquehanna Beltway would be completed in the near future.
In CT, the following have exit numbers:
US 7
CT 2
CT 2A
CT 8
CT 9
CT 11
CT 15
CT 25
CT 34
CT 40 (some)
CT 66 (continuation of I-691)
CT 72
CT 798
The following have freeway sections, but no exit numbers
US 6
CT 3
CT 12
CT 20
CT 32
CT 78
CT 349
CT 695
Quote from: PHLBOS on July 24, 2015, 05:45:32 PM
1, you beat me to the punch.
Here's a few from MA you missed:
US 6/Mid-Cape Highway
Freeway portions of MA 146 (added within the last few years)
Lowell Connector
For NH, don't forget the Spaulding Turnpike.
Quote from: briantroutman on July 24, 2015, 04:38:26 PM
This topic (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=1901.0) has come up in the past.
A more challenging topic would be what Interstates have no exit numbers?
I-676 in PA and I would think a lot of 3di's would lack them. Are there any 2di's that do?
LA 3132 in Shreveport, LA. US 167 in El Dorado, AR now that the super 2 has been converted to a 4 lane highway.
Kentucky does exit numbers on freeways that aren't interstate highways. as in the Parkway System (Which is the bulk of non-interstate freeways) and I've even seen an exit number on KY 9 which isn't even a freeway.
https://www.google.ca/maps/@39.001993,-84.415165,3a,15y,283.56h,91.59t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s36cLbBkUjwrtiiW5UKzf7g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Quote from: ekt8750 on July 24, 2015, 04:25:53 PM
Numbered exits on non-Interstates are usually not a thing out here. NJ 42 and DE 1 are exceptions. The Garden State Parkway and the NJ Turnpike I guess qualify as well.
I was going to correct you, and assumed you were confusing 42 and 55... but Wikipedia says they added exit numbers to 42 in 2003, about a year or two after I last drove on it. There's also NJ 18 with exit numbers.
Quote from: 1995hoo on July 24, 2015, 05:57:32 PM
(An example of a road that changes back and forth is US-29 in Virginia, which has "freeway" sections, "expressway" sections, urban and suburban arterial sections, and at least one two-lane road section through the Manassas Battlefield from the War Between the States, and nowhere does it have exit numbers that I can recall.
US 29 Business freeway through Lynchburg along with US 501 continuing the freeway has sequential exit numbers.
Some bypasses in southwestern Virginia have them, notably Christiansburg/Blacksburg...
Mike
Quote from: ekt8750 on July 24, 2015, 07:29:30 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on July 24, 2015, 05:45:32 PM
Quote from: briantroutman on July 24, 2015, 04:38:26 PM
This topic (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=1901.0) has come up in the past.
A more challenging topic would be what Interstates have no exit numbers?
I-676 in PA and I would think a lot of 3di's would lack them. Are there any 2di's that do?
The only ones I can think of are extremely short 3DIs in urban cores –like I-676 in Philadelphia, I-579 in Pittsburgh, I-175 and I-375 in St. Petersburg, and I-375 in Detroit.
Quote from: PHLBOS on July 24, 2015, 05:45:32 PM
what Interstates have no exit numbers?
I know two of Virginia's shortest Interstates, I-195 and I-564, do not have exit numbers. However, Virginia's shortest Interstate, I-381, has one numbered exit (Exit 0) and two lettered exits (exit A for I-81 North, and exit B for I-81 South).
FL 408
FL 429
FL 417
MD 32
MD 200
US 50 in Maryland
This will be a rather comprehensive list...
Michigan has done it on most if not all US-route freeways, and on M-14 as well. Google also shows exit numbers on M-6 south of Grand Rapids.
Starting to pop up in Colorado. Exits have been numbered on the E-470 tollway probably since it opened (Mile 0 at I-25 on the south end, not surprisingly). Recently, they have shown up on CO-115 where it has a few interchanges leaving Colorado Springs to the south, and on CO-21, Powers Blvd., in its brief freeway sections like at the Platte Avenue (U.S. 24) exit.
Minnesota, as far as I've seen, only has them on U.S. 52 in its freeway section through Rochester.
In New Mexico, U.S. 84-285 north of Santa Fe has them. U.S. 84 is treated as a north-south highway, and its mile 0 is where it intersects U.S. 60 at Fort Sumner and continues east to Texas concurrent with 60. The only other non-interstate freeway in the state is U.S. 70 east of Las Cruces, and when I last drove that highway it had no exit numbers.
Quote from: Pink Jazz on July 24, 2015, 09:20:32 PM
However, Virginia's shortest Interstate, I-381, has one numbered exit (Exit 0) and two lettered exits (exit A for I-81 North, and exit B for I-81 South).
what
Quote from: Pink Jazz on July 24, 2015, 09:20:32 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on July 24, 2015, 05:45:32 PM
what Interstates have no exit numbers?
I know two of Virginia's shortest Interstates, I-195 and I-564, do not have exit numbers. However, Virginia's shortest Interstate, I-381, has one numbered exit (Exit 0) and two lettered exits (exit A for I-81 North, and exit B for I-81 South).
I-381's sole exit with I-81 has been Exit 1A-B back to at least 2008...
Mike
Quote from: NE2 on July 24, 2015, 10:15:10 PM
Quote from: Pink Jazz on July 24, 2015, 09:20:32 PM
However, Virginia's shortest Interstate, I-381, has one numbered exit (Exit 0) and two lettered exits (exit A for I-81 North, and exit B for I-81 South).
what
I think Wikipedia's to blame.
The Wikipedia article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_381)lists the traffic signal at Key St. as "Exit 0" , but according to Street View, it's not signed anything like an exit–not even given the
NEXT SIGNAL type of signage that's sometimes used on high-volume arterials.
The article also misleadingly states that the I-81 interchange is "signed as exits A (north) and B (south)" , though elsewhere, the article adds: "Except where indicated, all exit numbers begin with 1."
Quote from: Mapmikey on July 24, 2015, 08:25:53 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on July 24, 2015, 05:57:32 PM
(An example of a road that changes back and forth is US-29 in Virginia, which has "freeway" sections, "expressway" sections, urban and suburban arterial sections, and at least one two-lane road section through the Manassas Battlefield from the War Between the States, and nowhere does it have exit numbers that I can recall.
US 29 Business freeway through Lynchburg along with US 501 continuing the freeway has sequential exit numbers.
Some bypasses in southwestern Virginia have them, notably Christiansburg/Blacksburg...
Mike
Thanks for that. I'll be damned if I can remember the last time I was on what is now 29 Business near Lynchburg. I can remember the road itself, which reminded me of a Pennsylvania Interstate, but that's about all I remember. Has to be no later than 1998 since I went that way. On all the most recent trips I've used the super-duper new bypass. But you know, that's why I said "that I can recall," though I figured it'd be froggie rushing to "correct" me.
It won't surprise you to hear I have only been to Blacksburg once and I followed the smell of livestock shit rather than the road signs :bigass: (In all seriousness: I was astonished when I got there. I had to take a huge dump and I went to the first men's room available, located in the car park I used. No booth. No door, just a wall that was about shoulder height for someone sitting on the toilet.....oh, and there was a folding chair facing the shitter so the guy waiting to go next could sit and wait. WTF, do they want you to have a conversation or something?????? "Now, I think the best wiping technique is as follows.....").
Quote from: Zeffy on July 24, 2015, 09:23:42 PM
FL 408
FL 429
FL 417
MD 32
MD 200
US 50 in Maryland
This will be a rather comprehensive list...
Missed MD 100 and US 29.
I don't know if US 15 has exit numbers.
Nevada only has a handful of non-Interstate highways that are freeway grade:
US 95 and US 395 both are major freeways in Las Vegas and Reno/Carson City, respectively, and both have exit numbers. (Granted both now overlap interstates for part of the freeway length, but both highways existed as freeways prior to the establishment of the cosigned Interstate.)
Clark County 215 is freeway for much of its length, and also has exit numbers. However, this is and extension of I-215 and will eventually be redesignated as such.
Summerlin Parkway in Las Vegas is the only major freeway in the state that does not have exit numbers. This is a City of Las Vegas owned facility, not NDOT (or future NDOT), and it already is a bit substandard with signage for an urban freeway (except near US 95, which is work NDOT did as part of US 95 projects).
The only other non-Interstate freeway in Nevada is unsigned SR 171, the McCarran airport connector. But it's so short and only has one non-terminus exit in only one direction, so exit numbers aren't necessary.
US 67's freeway in AR has them.
TN840 (still not a interstate)
NJ55
NY 27 has numbered exits they start from 37 assuming they would have extended the expressway into Nassau which never happened, NY 135 has numbered exits, so does NY 440, however the short NY 231 expressway doesn't.
WA 14 has exit numbers.
As for Oregon, as noted, US 26 and OR 217 do. US 30 doesn't for its lone exit to NW Thurman St.
OR 18 does, at least along the OR 22 overlap and one near Willamina on a Super 2 segment.
OR 22 has one with OR 99W, but not on the West Salem freeway portion. Its exit number sequence resets at I-5.
OR 569 has them, and OR 126 east of I-105 is hit or miss.
I doubt Delta Highway has any, but it's a Lane County freeway, not ODOT.
OR 99E doesn't along McGloughlin Blvd north of Milwaukie or on MLK through the Delta Park area.
OR 224 doesn't yet, but that will change with Phase 2 of the Sunrise Freeway construction.
I'd be surprised if OR 62 didn't have any once the expressway through north Medford is built.
US 97 has them.
OR 140 has one line exit number on the Klamath Falls expressway.
Quote from: The High Plains Traveler on July 24, 2015, 10:10:12 PM
Starting to pop up in Colorado. Exits have been numbered on the E-470 tollway probably since it opened (Mile 0 at I-25 on the south end, not surprisingly). Recently, they have shown up on CO-115 where it has a few interchanges leaving Colorado Springs to the south, and on CO-21, Powers Blvd., in its brief freeway sections like at the Platte Avenue (U.S. 24) exit.
When we hit Denver 2 weeks ago, I noticed that on
C-470 Eastbound, they are adding exit numbers when upgrading signage. As of now, C-470 is numbered from I-70 to Quincy Avenue (Exit 7) heading east and most of those BGS are newer. I didn't see numbered exits going the other way, except for the new Alameda Parkway interchange (Exit 2), yet it looked like all the westbound BGSs east/south of Alameda were older -- probably original C-470 signage.
Ohio has been slowly converting their non-interstate freeways to numbered exits, with SR-10 in Lorain County being one of the earliest from US-20 to I-480. SR-2 also in Lorain Co. has been up for a while, but originally mileage based from the Huron Co. line and not consistently at every exit.
Pennsylvania has some examples of this.
PA 581
PA 378
US 219?
US 119 and US 422
US 22?
Quote from: noelbotevera on July 25, 2015, 08:39:36 AM
Pennsylvania has some examples of this.
PA 581
PA 378
US 219?
US 119 and US 422
US 22?
Ahhhh forgot all about US 422 and PA 378. 378 spent the early part of its life as I-378 back when I-78 ran over the current US 22 freeway in Bethlehem. The exit numbers are a holdover from that.
Almost everything in the NYC/Long Island metro area has exit numbers, which is interesting because NY 17 is the only non-interstate outside of this area to have them (except for NY 481, NY 390, and NY 590, but they're really interstate extensions, so I don't count them; US 15 had exit numbers, but it no longer counts because it's I-99). I-587, I-790, I-695, I-895, and I-478 lack exit numbers. I-78 has them despite being nothing more than a one-way traffic circle connected to the Holland Tunnel in NY. Go figure.
Quote from: vdeane on July 25, 2015, 03:17:30 PM
Almost everything in the NYC/Long Island metro area has exit numbers, which is interesting because NY 17 is the only non-interstate outside of this area to have them (except for NY 481, NY 390, and NY 590, but they're really interstate extensions, so I don't count them; US 15 had exit numbers, but it no longer counts because it's I-99). I-587, I-790, I-695, I-895, and I-478 lack exit numbers. I-78 has them despite being nothing more than a one-way traffic circle connected to the Holland Tunnel in NY. Go figure.
What about exit B1 on the Berkshire Connector?
Quote from: vdeane on July 25, 2015, 03:17:30 PM
Almost everything in the NYC/Long Island metro area has exit numbers, which is interesting because NY 17 is the only non-interstate outside of this area to have them (except for NY 481, NY 390, and NY 590, but they're really interstate extensions, so I don't count them; US 15 had exit numbers, but it no longer counts because it's I-99). I-587, I-790, I-695, I-895, and I-478 lack exit numbers. I-78 has them despite being nothing more than a one-way traffic circle connected to the Holland Tunnel in NY. Go figure.
Heh. I-587, I-695, I-895 and I-478 lack exits between their end points.
Quote from: Rothman on July 25, 2015, 06:48:32 PM
Heh. I-587, I-695, I-895 and I-478 lack exits between their end points.
Yes, no, no, and maybe.
Quote from: Big John on July 24, 2015, 04:40:14 PM
Georgia does this for GA 400 and US 78, but kept sequential numbering for them.
Georgia is all over the place on this topic.
US 78 - yes, sequential
GA 316 - no
GA 400 - yes, sequential
GA 166 - no
GA 141 - no
US 80 (Columbus) - yes, sequential
US 27 Alt (Columbus) - no
US 19/41 (Griffin) - no
US 19/82 (Albany) - yes, sequential
US 27 (Rome) - no
Athens Perimeter - yes, mileage-based
US 84 (Bainbridge) - no
Now that I think about it, looking at that list, it seems like there's a rough distance cutoff. Anything over about 10 miles in length gets exit numbers. As for why the Athens Perimeter is the only one with mileage-based numbers, I'm guessing that's because it's the only one where the freeway makes up the entire route (GA 10 Loop, in this case).
Quote from: kj3400 on July 24, 2015, 10:49:15 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on July 24, 2015, 09:23:42 PM
FL 408
FL 429
FL 417
MD 32
MD 200
US 50 in Maryland
This will be a rather comprehensive list...
Missed MD 100 and US 29.
I don't know if US 15 has exit numbers.
US 15 in MD does not. Nor does it in PA.
I can't think of a non-interstate in VA that has exit numbers according to absolute mileage, but several do have numbers based upon relative mileage or sequence:
The Chesapeake Expressway (VA-168, numbers based upon distance from NC)
The Lynchburg Expressway (US-29 BUS and US-501, numbered sequentially southward (then northward along US-501), starting at the bridge over the James. The super-2 and Madison Heights portions do not have numbers, however)
The Christiansburg Bypass (US-460, numbered sequentially westbound, the expressway around Blacksburg is not numbered, however)
VA-267 (numbered sequentially, increasing eastbound)
VA-895's interchange with Airport Drive is signed as Exit 3, despite none of the other exits having numbers.
Quote from: NE2 on July 25, 2015, 07:39:10 PM
Quote from: Rothman on July 25, 2015, 06:48:32 PM
Heh. I-587, I-695, I-895 and I-478 lack exits between their end points.
Yes, no, no, and maybe.
Crap. Single off-ramps foiled me again.
Quote from: 1 on July 25, 2015, 04:09:14 PM
Quote from: vdeane on July 25, 2015, 03:17:30 PM
Almost everything in the NYC/Long Island metro area has exit numbers, which is interesting because NY 17 is the only non-interstate outside of this area to have them (except for NY 481, NY 390, and NY 590, but they're really interstate extensions, so I don't count them; US 15 had exit numbers, but it no longer counts because it's I-99). I-587, I-790, I-695, I-895, and I-478 lack exit numbers. I-78 has them despite being nothing more than a one-way traffic circle connected to the Holland Tunnel in NY. Go figure.
What about exit B1 on the Berkshire Connector?
That's the interchange with I-90. It's numbered with I-90 exiting itself because Thruway (see: exit 24), but it's not exactly a junction off the interstate system.
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on July 24, 2015, 06:34:30 PM
The following have freeway sections, but no exit numbers
US 6
CT 3
CT 12
CT 20
CT 32
CT 78
CT 349
CT 695
CT 695 will very shortly have exit numbers as its getting new signs and mile-based exits in conjunction with the I-395 project. Previously, it did have one exit number, #90, SB/WB, for Squaw Rock Road. The NB/EB interchange for Ross Road just east of Squaw Rock Road was not numbered, or signed for that matter. Just a simple EXIT sign in the gore.
If CT 20 gets exit numbers, I personally think it should start with #1 (Old County Road), rather than CT 20's mileage from its western terminus. I'd sign the freeway portion as an I-X91 as its the main route between I-91 and the Airport and worthy of a 3DI.
Quote from: Eth on July 25, 2015, 07:55:24 PMUS 78 - yes, sequential
Then there's the
other piece of US 78 at Monroe, which is not numbered.
Georgia mileposts its state highways by county, which would make using existing milepost numbers pretty illogical and incoherent. Why they didn't make an exception for 400 is one of GDOT's many mysteries.
Whoa, wait... was GA 365 ever mileposted by county? :hmmm:
The various US-70 freeway segments between Raliegh and the coast in NC are trending towards numbering. Most of the exits in the New Bern area are numbered now, at least on the BGS's leading up to them if not the actual exit sign in the gore (exit 417 for the Neuse River Bridge from the Freedom Memorial Bridge now has the number on the gore sign as well).
Quote from: Rothman on July 25, 2015, 09:17:04 PM
Quote from: NE2 on July 25, 2015, 07:39:10 PM
Quote from: Rothman on July 25, 2015, 06:48:32 PM
Heh. I-587, I-695, I-895 and I-478 lack exits between their end points.
Yes, no, no, and maybe.
Crap. Single off-ramps foiled me again.
I-587 is a "maybe" thanks to the park-and-ride ramp immediately east of the roundabout
Continuing NC:
US 64 in Alexander County
US 421 in spots (between Winston and Wilkesboro and between Greensboro on and off to Sanford)
As mentioned US 70 does have some numbered exits
Durham Freeway/Tri-Ex connector (NC 147)
Triangle Expressway (NC 540)
US 64/264 to Zebulon and then US 64 to WIlliamston, then US 264 to Greenville
US 17 in New Bern and (I think) Elizabeth City
US 1 between Raleigh and Sanford
US 321 between Hickory and just north of Gastonia
US 74 between Clyde and Bryson City
The freeway portion of KY 4 (New Circle Road) has exit numbers.
Quote from: tidecat on July 27, 2015, 08:22:17 AM
The freeway portion of KY 4 (New Circle Road) has exit numbers.
Even the non-freeway portion has exit numbers too for the few exits on the non-freeway part of KY 4.
Arizona
US 60
US 93
AZ Loop 101
AZ 143
AZ Loop 202
AZ 210
AZ Loop 303
Quote from: roadman on July 24, 2015, 05:52:58 PM
The freeway/expressway section of US 1 between the Tobin Bridge and the Danvers/Topsfield line doesn't have exit numbers.
The OP was asking for
numbered exits/interchanges along non-Interstates.
Additionally, only the stretch of US 1 (solo) between I-93/Zakim Bridge and the MA 60 at the Revere/Saugus line would count as a freeway/expressway. US 1 north of there to I-95 at the Danvers/Topsfield line is an arterial/Jersey-type divided-highway with no controlled access. While it does have interchanges, it also has intersections (most of them one-sided).
Quote from: PHLBOS on July 27, 2015, 11:47:37 AM
Quote from: roadman on July 24, 2015, 05:52:58 PM
The freeway/expressway section of US 1 between the Tobin Bridge and the Danvers/Topsfield line doesn't have exit numbers.
The OP was asking for numbered exits/interchanges along non-Interstates.
I was listing all freeways and other roads with interchanges in Massachusetts and New Hampshire and showing how almost all of them (but not quite all) had exit numbers. He was expanding the list of those that didn't.
California has plenty of non-Interstates with numbered exits.
CA-1
US-101
CA-55
CA-91
CA-57
CA-22
CA-60
Just to name a few
Quote from: Bickendan on July 25, 2015, 01:16:54 AM
WA 14 has exit numbers.
Actually, I didn't remember that. I was basing my statement on SR-525, 526, 518, 509, 99, 167, 3, 18, 512, 240, US 2, 101, and 395.
SR 16 however, does have exit numbers.
Quote from: OCGuy81 on July 27, 2015, 01:03:07 PM
California has plenty of non-Interstates with numbered exits.
CA-1
US-101
CA-55
CA-91
CA-57
CA-22
CA-60
Just to name a few
Every freeway in California, regardless of it being an Interstate or not, is supposed to have exit numbers now.
QuoteI can't think of a non-interstate in VA that has exit numbers according to absolute mileage, but several do have numbers based upon relative mileage or sequence:
The Chesapeake Expressway (VA-168, numbers based upon distance from NC)
By definition, this would be absolute mileage, as your "Milepost 0" would properly be at the NC line.
Regarding the thread, and ignoring the earlier thread (like everyone else seems to have), three of Vermont's four non-Interstate freeways have exit numbers (VT 279 around Bennington being the exception). Of these, VT 289 around Essex is unique in being the only freeway statewide to use milepost-based exit numbers. The other freeways, including the Interstates, are sequential-based.
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on July 25, 2015, 07:57:45 PM
US 15 in MD does not. Nor does it in PA.
US 15 in MD has mileage-based exit numbers from I-70 (exit 10) to MD 26 (exit 17).
Also in Virginia, these bypasses have sequential exit numbers: Bluefield, Lebanon, Tazewell, Richlands, Coeburn, Norton, and Big Stone Gap.
Mike
The recently upgraded sections of US 31 in Indiana have exit numbers. IN 265 (which will eventually be an interstate) has an exit number.
KY 841 has exit numbers on the parts that are not duplexed with I-265.
Quote from: Big John on July 24, 2015, 04:40:14 PM
Wisconsin regularly does this for non-Interstate freeways and expressways.
Interestingly, it's not consistent. A few examples:
- US 10 is interchange numbered (numbers went up in about 2010).
- US 45 between I-41 (Algoma interchange in Oshkosh) and US 10 (Winchester interchange) is not interchange numbered.
- The non-US 10 part of WI 441 (Calumet St/County 'KK', College Ave/County 'CE', Northland Ave/County 'OO' and I-41/Northeast interchange in Appleton) is not interchange numbered.
- WI 26, WI 29, US 151 are interchange numbered.
- WI 172 is not interchange numbered.
Mike
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on July 24, 2015, 06:34:30 PM
The following have freeway sections, but no exit numbers
US 6
CT 3
CT 12
CT 20
CT 32
CT 78
CT 349
CT 695
Add 17, 187/189, 190, SR 571 (all are short though). I think 12 doesn't belong.
IL-390 is getting exit numbers as ISTHA adds a lane and a new interchange at I-290.
Quote from: TEG24601 on July 27, 2015, 03:11:43 PM
Quote from: Bickendan on July 25, 2015, 01:16:54 AM
WA 14 has exit numbers.
Actually, I didn't remember that. I was basing my statement on SR-525, 526, 518, 509, 99, 167, 3, 18, 512, 240, US 2, 101, and 395.
SR 16 however, does have exit numbers.
SR 3 has at least a couple. (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.545521,-122.673917,3a,75y,52.71h,73.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sUz7LVHoncp1rm1L5931TPA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1%5B/url) My guess is they're being added as signage is replaced.
Personally, I disagree with the trend that every exit needs to be numbered, regardless of how short the freeway section is. (Even if said trend is MUTCD-mandated now?) For instance, I see no need to number the exits on the Sequim bypass on US 101. But there's no reason for roads like 512, 167, 520, and 18 not to have exit numbers. (Especially since 520 is mostly brand new signage now, at least west of 405.)
Is it possible we could split the discussion about freeways without numbered exits onto a new thread?
The U.S. 287 bypass of Boise City, OK has one exit, and it is numbered as Exit 21.
Here's a list of non-interstate highways with numbered exits in Wisconsin:
US 10
US 12
WIS 16
WIS 26
WIS 29
US 41 (non-interstate section also has exit numbers north of Green Bay)
US 45
US 51
US 53
WIS 64
WIS 145
US 151
Quote from: thenetwork on July 25, 2015, 01:44:54 AM
Ohio has been slowly converting their non-interstate freeways to numbered exits, with SR-10 in Lorain County being one of the earliest from US-20 to I-480. SR-2 also in Lorain Co. has been up for a while, but originally mileage based from the Huron Co. line and not consistently at every exit.
US 35 east of Dayton has been getting the Clearview treatment, and they have added exit numbers at interchanges such as I-675, OH 835, and N Fairfield Rd.
US 60 in Missouri east of I-44 to US 65 in Springfield, and at other various lengths along the route, especially in Wright, Texas, and Howell Counties, and between Poplar Bluff and Sikeston.
Portions of US 82 across North Texas which have been upgraded to controlled access use exit numbers. They're based off the Texas mileage system, though, so you have a lot of big numbers like Exit 640. And, of course, there is US 75 with its sequential exit numbering.
RI-4 has exit numbers (8,7,6,5) that are a continuation south of where it splits from I-95 at exit 9. Big question is what will happen to the numbers when I-95 gets renumbered to mileage based exits, will they go mileage based also, get eliminated, or just be left as is?
The new US 31 freeway segments in Indiana has exit numbers as does the US 20 freeway around South Bend. Anything else in Indiana?
Quote from: monty on August 16, 2015, 02:27:25 PM
The new US 31 freeway segments in Indiana has exit numbers as does the US 20 freeway around South Bend. Anything else in Indiana?
I mentioned US 31 up in Reply #61 as well as IN 265 in Jeffersonville.
As mentioned earlier, Upstate New York tends to not number interchanges off of non-interstate freeways. I think this hearkens back to the 1961 MUTCD when it's mentioned that Interstates should have interchange numbers (instead of _freeways_ should have interchange numbers). There's still a lot of old people at NYSDOT.
I've been begging for exit numbering on NY 33 in Buffalo for years, my argument being that it's longer than I-290 and has more interchanges than I-290 but NYSDOT says nope because it's not an interstate.
Quote from: upstatenyroads on August 19, 2015, 01:06:45 PM
As mentioned earlier, Upstate New York tends to not number interchanges off of non-interstate freeways. I think this hearkens back to the 1961 MUTCD when it's mentioned that Interstates should have interchange numbers (instead of _freeways_ should have interchange numbers). There's still a lot of old people at NYSDOT.
I've been begging for exit numbering on NY 33 in Buffalo for years, my argument being that it's longer than I-290 and has more interchanges than I-290 but NYSDOT says nope because it's not an interstate.
These are the same people who refuse to stop using sequential exit numbering because switching would "cause too much confusion"
Quote from: cl94 on August 19, 2015, 01:36:56 PM
Quote from: upstatenyroads on August 19, 2015, 01:06:45 PM
As mentioned earlier, Upstate New York tends to not number interchanges off of non-interstate freeways. I think this hearkens back to the 1961 MUTCD when it's mentioned that Interstates should have interchange numbers (instead of _freeways_ should have interchange numbers). There's still a lot of old people at NYSDOT.
I've been begging for exit numbering on NY 33 in Buffalo for years, my argument being that it's longer than I-290 and has more interchanges than I-290 but NYSDOT says nope because it's not an interstate.
These are the same people who refuse to stop using sequential exit numbering because switching would "cause too much confusion"
...and cause too much of a burden on businesses to change advertising. :banghead:
Quote from: monty on August 16, 2015, 02:27:25 PM
The new US 31 freeway segments in Indiana has exit numbers as does the US 20 freeway around South Bend. Anything else in Indiana?
Can I get an example of exit numbers on the US 20 freeway (St. Joseph Valley Parkway)? I don't recall any. Over the years, I often thought they would be useful. Several exits into the city are marked identically "South Bend" with no indication of the street. It has to be confusing to travelers.
Quote from: cl94 on August 19, 2015, 01:36:56 PM
Quote from: upstatenyroads on August 19, 2015, 01:06:45 PM
As mentioned earlier, Upstate New York tends to not number interchanges off of non-interstate freeways. I think this hearkens back to the 1961 MUTCD when it's mentioned that Interstates should have interchange numbers (instead of _freeways_ should have interchange numbers). There's still a lot of old people at NYSDOT.
I've been begging for exit numbering on NY 33 in Buffalo for years, my argument being that it's longer than I-290 and has more interchanges than I-290 but NYSDOT says nope because it's not an interstate.
These are the same people who refuse to stop using sequential exit numbering because switching would "cause too much confusion"
Actually, the 1961 MUTCD makes no mention that only Interstates should have exit numbering. In fact, the only mention of exit numbering I found comes from Section 1D-34–Interchange Sign Requirements:
QuoteThe designation of interchanges by name may be advantageous in some circumstances, but generally an interchange can be identified by the name or number of the intersected highway or the chief destination thereon. A special interchange designation only adds to the legend that must appear on the interchange signs. Numbering of interchanges is subject to the further disadvantage that it assumes definite termini for an expressway and a fixed number of interchanges.
Interestingly, this edition of the manual appears to *discourage* exit numbering.
The 1971 MUTCD was the next full edition of the manual. This edition makes the first mention of required freeway exit numbering. Section 2F-20–Interchange Exit Numbering (from the part of the manual on freeway signing practices):
QuoteThe milepost numbers along freeways provide valuable orientation to the driver, and the appropriate milepost number shall be used in signing each interchange exit. ...
Interchange exit numbers shall be displayed with each advance guide sign, exit direction sign, and the gore sign. ... The milepost exit number preferably will be displayed on a separate panel at the top of the major sign, or at location below the major sign where conditions make this more practical. ...
Consistent with the AASHO action to adopt the consecutive numbering system for the Interstate System and with the Federal requirement for a milepost numbering system, the two systems may be combined by displaying an auxiliary panel with a single line legend "MILE (number)–EXIT (number)" in conjunction with the advance guide, exit direction and overhead gore signs. For the ground-mounted EXIT gore sign that already displays a consecutive number, the auxiliary panel will read only "MILE (number)".
As far as the MUTCD is concerned, it doesn't appear that the MUTCD ever had an rule only requiring Interstates to use exit numbering. It also appears that FHWA has always preferred reference-based exit numbering. From this, it looks like sequential numbering on Interstates was an AASHO directive which conflicted with reference-based numbering directed by FHWA, with both methods arising sometime between 1961 and 1971 and this MUTCD attempted to reconcile those conflicting policies.
On this same subject...
If you have HOV exits, are they numbered exits? I just noticed on I-405 near Bellevue, WA, a couple of HOV only ramps don't have exit numbers.
Quote from: TEG24601 on August 24, 2015, 11:05:10 AM
On this same subject...
If you have HOV exits, are they numbered exits? I just noticed on I-405 near Bellevue, WA, a couple of HOV only ramps don't have exit numbers.
...Neither do any of the ones on I-5 that have been around several years longer.
(In other words, no, typically not.)
Quote from: Kacie Jane on August 24, 2015, 12:39:25 PM
Quote from: TEG24601 on August 24, 2015, 11:05:10 AM
On this same subject...
If you have HOV exits, are they numbered exits? I just noticed on I-405 near Bellevue, WA, a couple of HOV only ramps don't have exit numbers.
...Neither do any of the ones on I-5 that have been around several years longer.
(In other words, no, typically not.)
They really shouldn't, since exit numbers implies that they aren't restricted.
Same goes for the right-side exit to the King County Metro north bus base on I-5 at N 163rd Street (between exits 175 and 176).
Minnesota's only non-Interstate with exit numbers is US 52 in the Rochester vicinity. The St. Paul freeway portion is not numbered.
Michigan has been very inconsistent over the years.
US 131 has had exit numbers my entire life. I think US 31 (from Grand Haven north) and US 127 got them 10-15 years ago. M-6 had them from when it was built in 2001.
On the other hand, US 10, M-53, and M-59 didn't get exit numbers until the switch to Clearview. As far as I know, M-5 and M-8 are the only remaining exit number holdouts. The expressway portion of US 31 through Holland doesn't have numbers, but the M-57 interchange on non-freeway US 127 does.