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http://tinyurl.com/ylm774e (http://tinyurl.com/ylm774e)
...it's not US 136, and it's not I-74... so what is it?
I assume it's a secret number, since how the roads in this area are signed isn't really an issue.
An ITS milepost posted just after the signal with High School Road on westbound attributes I-74 73.6
Not that ITS markers can be completely trusted as ITS markers on Port Road east of IN-265 indicate it as I-265 through to milepost 10.0
Quote from: AARoads on November 13, 2009, 01:12:37 PM
An ITS milepost posted just after the signal with High School Road on westbound attributes I-74 73.6
So maybe that means it's "I-74 Spur"?
Why wouldn't that be US-136? It seems like that's the only way to connect it to I-74/465
Quote from: corco on November 13, 2009, 01:56:14 PM
Why wouldn't that be US-136? It seems like that's the only way to connect it to I-74/465
Oh, so you're suggesting maybe US 136 turns around and heads back west to the interchange... well, I guess that's a possibility, although there is an "End 136" sign posted east of the interchange:
http://usends.com/30-39/136/136.html (http://usends.com/30-39/136/136.html)
Gun to my head I'd guess that functionally/officially it's US-136, but to eliminate confusion they put the end sign at Crawfordsville Rd- because then you'd have to sign 136 East going west, plus I-74 and 465 are right there so there's not much point in signing it and could only lead to traveler confusion.
From 74 and 465, it's also signed as 136/Crawfordsville Rd instead of TO 136/Crawfordsville Rd.
I guess it could easily be I-74 mainline in Indiana's eyes, too. Since I-74 uses I-465's mileposts on the beltway, it's highly unlikely that they store information in their computer for 74 and 465 along the concurrency, so for them there's no overlap to have I-74 extend beyond I-465 a tiny bit, so it becomes a deal where there's an explicit I-74 MP 73.6 along that spur, and then just an implied one along th e beltway, but for practical purposes nobody cares about the implied one. It doesn't make any sense from a signage standpoint, but from an inventory/maintenance standpoint which I'm sure is what Indiana DOT cares more about, it's totally kosher
My guess would be is that as far as INDOT is concerned it's I-74 Mainline, and as far as the AAHSTO is concerned it's US-136
Quote from: corco on November 13, 2009, 02:25:29 PM
My guess would be is that as far as INDOT is concerned it's I-74 Mainline, and as far as the AAHSTO is concerned it's US-136
AASHTO? Heh... the route log on their website has the east end of US 136 at US 41 in Veedersburg IN! :no:
That's why I was curious about INDOT's designation...
According to INDOT's Reference Post Manual (http://www.in.gov/indot/files/StateWide_2004.pdf), the stretch in question is US-136. It might be a little tough to read, but basically, the ramps on the west side of the interchange intersect I-74, while the ones on the east side intersect US-136, which makes the left turn and ends at the bridge over I-465 (I-74 travels over I-465 for 20.23 miles starting at this point).
Quote from: rawmustard on November 13, 2009, 03:11:09 PM
According to INDOT's Reference Post Manual (http://www.in.gov/indot/files/StateWide_2004.pdf), the stretch in question is US-136.
Interesting... thanks for your research. And all this time, I thought US 136 ended where the "End" sign is posted... silly me. But apparently it goes like this:
http://tinyurl.com/yca8thv (http://tinyurl.com/yca8thv)
Whatever it is, the problem should be eliminated within a few years when that intersection is redone. By the time the construction is finished, I-465 will have ramps lead directly into I-74 West and Crawfordsville Rd. will be reconfigured so that it never goes into I-74. Crawfordsville Rd. will have its own diamond interchange. It could be assumed then that US 136 will end at the 465 interchange. Speaking of the ITS signs, even though I-74 on the southeast side goes into I-465 there are still mile markers on the inside loop for about a mile until Arlington Ave. Explain that.