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What is the number of this Indianapolis highway?

Started by usends, November 13, 2009, 01:07:38 PM

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usends

Click here to view a map of the highway in question...
http://tinyurl.com/ylm774e
...it's not US 136, and it's not I-74...  so what is it?
I assume it's a secret number, since how the roads in this area are signed isn't really an issue.


Alex

An ITS milepost posted just after the signal with High School Road on westbound attributes I-74 73.6

Not that ITS markers can be completely trusted as ITS markers on Port Road east of IN-265 indicate it as I-265 through to milepost 10.0

usends

Quote from: AARoads on November 13, 2009, 01:12:37 PM
An ITS milepost posted just after the signal with High School Road on westbound attributes I-74 73.6

So maybe that means it's "I-74 Spur"?

corco

Why wouldn't that be US-136? It seems like that's the only way to connect it to I-74/465

usends

Quote from: corco on November 13, 2009, 01:56:14 PM
Why wouldn't that be US-136? It seems like that's the only way to connect it to I-74/465
Oh, so you're suggesting maybe US 136 turns around and heads back west to the interchange... well, I guess that's a possibility, although there is an "End 136" sign posted east of the interchange:
http://usends.com/30-39/136/136.html

corco

#5
Gun to my head I'd guess that functionally/officially it's US-136, but to eliminate confusion they put the end sign at Crawfordsville Rd- because then you'd have to sign 136 East going west, plus I-74 and 465 are right there so there's not much point in signing it and could only lead to traveler confusion.

From 74 and 465, it's also signed as 136/Crawfordsville Rd instead of TO 136/Crawfordsville Rd.

corco

#6
I guess it could easily be I-74 mainline in Indiana's eyes, too. Since I-74 uses I-465's mileposts on the beltway, it's highly unlikely that they store information in their computer for 74 and 465 along the concurrency, so for them there's no overlap to have I-74 extend beyond I-465 a tiny bit, so it becomes a deal where there's an explicit I-74 MP 73.6 along that spur, and then just an implied one along th e beltway, but for practical purposes nobody cares about the implied one. It doesn't make any sense from a signage standpoint, but from an inventory/maintenance standpoint which I'm sure is what Indiana DOT cares more about, it's totally kosher

My guess would be is that as far as INDOT is concerned it's I-74 Mainline, and as far as the AAHSTO is concerned it's US-136

usends

#7
Quote from: corco on November 13, 2009, 02:25:29 PM
My guess would be is that as far as INDOT is concerned it's I-74 Mainline, and as far as the AAHSTO is concerned it's US-136
AASHTO?  Heh... the route log on their website has the east end of US 136 at US 41 in Veedersburg IN!   :no:
That's why I was curious about INDOT's designation...

rawmustard

According to INDOT's Reference Post Manual, the stretch in question is US-136. It might be a little tough to read, but basically, the ramps on the west side of the interchange intersect I-74, while the ones on the east side intersect US-136, which makes the left turn and ends at the bridge over I-465 (I-74 travels over I-465 for 20.23 miles starting at this point).

usends

Quote from: rawmustard on November 13, 2009, 03:11:09 PM
According to INDOT's Reference Post Manual, the stretch in question is US-136.
Interesting... thanks for your research.  And all this time, I thought US 136 ended where the "End" sign is posted... silly me.  But apparently it goes like this:
http://tinyurl.com/yca8thv

tdindy88

Whatever it is, the problem should be eliminated within a few years when that intersection is redone. By the time the construction is finished, I-465 will have ramps lead directly into I-74 West and Crawfordsville Rd. will be reconfigured so that it never goes into I-74. Crawfordsville Rd. will have its own diamond interchange. It could be assumed then that US 136 will end at the 465 interchange. Speaking of the ITS signs, even though I-74 on the southeast side goes into I-465 there are still mile markers on the inside loop for about a mile until Arlington Ave. Explain that.



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