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Title: Terrible Billboard Placement
Post by: Tonytone on May 10, 2019, 03:02:20 PM
This is the sub we've all been waiting for!
(if one already exists it can be merged).

In this Topic people can post the billboards they know that are in bad spots to look at while driving.

Ex: Google Earth Link
https://earth.app.goo.gl/sYtpHt #googleearth
(http://google%20earth%20link
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190510/2e9c63c4df9963770051b14e528f6133.jpg)

Even from far back it's still a bad spot & its on a curve in tight area prone to traffic, they couldn't have picked a better spot for a billboard.


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Title: Re: Terrible Billboard Placement
Post by: kphoger on May 10, 2019, 03:07:12 PM
Now, and here I thought a billboard people can actually see from the road is bad placement.   :biggrin:
Title: Re: Terrible Billboard Placement
Post by: Tonytone on May 10, 2019, 03:10:41 PM
Quote from: kphoger on May 10, 2019, 03:07:12 PM
Now, and here I thought a billboard people can actually see from the road is bad placement.   :biggrin:
Oh then you'd love this road
Google Earth Link
https://earth.app.goo.gl/LYPLtt #googleearth
(http://google%20earth%20link
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190510/4c2fc9cb577c91261830d4c1dfb2e913.jpg)


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Title: Re: Terrible Billboard Placement
Post by: oscar on May 10, 2019, 04:13:42 PM
The Google Earth links in both your posts are bad.

Not clear what is the issue with the billboards in both posts, other than that the billboard in the first post is probably intended for drivers on another road.
Title: Re: Terrible Billboard Placement
Post by: Tonytone on May 10, 2019, 04:18:11 PM
Quote from: oscar on May 10, 2019, 04:13:42 PM
The Google Earth links in both your posts are bad.

Not clear what is the issue with the billboards in both posts, other than that the billboard in the first post is probably intended for drivers on another road.
The first one is definitely intended for I-95 & you have to really look awkwardly to see it. I drive that route almost everyday.

& when you say bad do you mean the links are broken or they are bad in regards to what im asking


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Title: Re: Terrible Billboard Placement
Post by: oscar on May 10, 2019, 04:24:11 PM
Quote from: Tonytone on May 10, 2019, 04:18:11 PM
The first one is definitely intended for I-95 & you have to really look awkwardly to see it. I drive that route almost everyday.

How do you know which road the billboard is aimed at, or that there isn't some other road that gets a better view of the billboard?

Quote
& when you say bad do you mean the links are broken or they are bad in regards to what im asking

Links are broken.
Title: Re: Terrible Billboard Placement
Post by: Tonytone on May 10, 2019, 04:26:04 PM
Quote from: oscar on May 10, 2019, 04:24:11 PM
Quote from: Tonytone on May 10, 2019, 04:18:11 PM
The first one is definitely intended for I-95 & you have to really look awkwardly to see it. I drive that route almost everyday.

How do you know which road the billboard is aimed at, or that there isn't some other road that gets a better view of the billboard?

Quote
& when you say bad do you mean the links are broken or they are bad in regards to what im asking

Links are broken.
I wonder why Google earth links act so wacky & the only other highway is 476 & the ramps would only be able to really see it. But that defeats the purpose of the billboard.


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Title: Re: Terrible Billboard Placement
Post by: Truvelo on May 10, 2019, 04:37:00 PM
What is the policy regarding billboards adjacent to freeways? Here in the UK there are only a handful and they have attracted criticism due to distraction.
Title: Re: Terrible Billboard Placement
Post by: oscar on May 10, 2019, 05:01:09 PM
Quote from: Truvelo on May 10, 2019, 04:37:00 PM
I wonder why Google earth links act so wacky & the only other highway is 476 & the ramps would only be able to really see it. But that defeats the purpose of the billboard.

There are other highways near the I-95/I-476 interchange, most notably US 13. It doesn't help that, with the broken links, you can't tell exactly where the Google Earth image was taken.
Title: Re: Terrible Billboard Placement
Post by: hotdogPi on May 10, 2019, 05:03:12 PM
Quote from: oscar on May 10, 2019, 05:01:09 PM
Quote from: Truvelo on May 10, 2019, 04:37:00 PM
I wonder why Google earth links act so wacky & the only other highway is 476 & the ramps would only be able to really see it. But that defeats the purpose of the billboard.

There are other highways near the I-95/I-476 interchange, most notably US 13. It doesn't help that, with the broken links, you can't tell exactly where the Google Earth image was taken.

I think you just need to remove everything before the https and everything after (and including) the %20. It still tells me that Google Earth isn't installed, so I'm not sure.
Title: Re: Terrible Billboard Placement
Post by: Mapmikey on May 10, 2019, 05:03:39 PM
Quote from: oscar on May 10, 2019, 05:01:09 PM
Quote from: Truvelo on May 10, 2019, 04:37:00 PM
I wonder why Google earth links act so wacky & the only other highway is 476 & the ramps would only be able to really see it. But that defeats the purpose of the billboard.

There are other highways near the I-95/I-476 interchange, most notably US 13. It doesn't help that, with the broken links, you can't tell exactly where the Google Earth image was taken.

Here is GMSV from slightly further back.  I'm not seeing much wrong with this placement...  https://goo.gl/maps/oVgozux956kpFnfg7

You can also see it just fine from the flyover - https://goo.gl/maps/3ED4onub3vs4vgb18
Title: Re: Terrible Billboard Placement
Post by: Tonytone on May 10, 2019, 05:06:46 PM
Quote from: Mapmikey on May 10, 2019, 05:03:39 PM
Quote from: oscar on May 10, 2019, 05:01:09 PM
Quote from: Truvelo on May 10, 2019, 04:37:00 PM
I wonder why Google earth links act so wacky & the only other highway is 476 & the ramps would only be able to really see it. But that defeats the purpose of the billboard.

There are other highways near the I-95/I-476 interchange, most notably US 13. It doesn't help that, with the broken links, you can't tell exactly where the Google Earth image was taken.

Here is GMSV from slightly further back.  I'm not seeing much wrong with this placement...  https://goo.gl/maps/oVgozux956kpFnfg7

You can also see it just fine from the flyover - https://goo.gl/maps/3ED4onub3vs4vgb18
Are you serious, do you really think most people can really see what that says from that far, I mean I can but its a little far even with my 20/20 vision.


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Title: Re: Terrible Billboard Placement
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on May 10, 2019, 05:26:07 PM
Not sure if it's a placement law but Wisconsin has some placed so far away from the road it's difficult or impossible to read what exit the business is off of or any other details about it. One is for Wendy's in Menomonie on eastbound I-94. There used to be a billboard for Perkins nearby that one that faced perpendicular to the road where you had to turn your head 90 degrees to read it.
Title: Re: Terrible Billboard Placement
Post by: jeffandnicole on May 10, 2019, 06:53:11 PM
Quote from: Truvelo on May 10, 2019, 04:37:00 PM
What is the policy regarding billboards adjacent to freeways? Here in the UK there are only a handful and they have attracted criticism due to distraction.

It's up to state and local regulation. Policies vary widely.
Title: Re: Terrible Billboard Placement
Post by: Flint1979 on May 10, 2019, 07:10:21 PM
I don't see how that would be for anything but I-95 from where it's located.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/39%C2%B052'03.0%22N+75%C2%B020'35.0%22W/@39.867143,-75.3443425,235a,35y,27.12h,44.93t/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x0!8m2!3d39.8675!4d-75.3430556
Title: Re: Terrible Billboard Placement
Post by: Mapmikey on May 10, 2019, 08:41:45 PM
Quote from: Tonytone on May 10, 2019, 05:06:46 PM
Quote from: Mapmikey on May 10, 2019, 05:03:39 PM
Quote from: oscar on May 10, 2019, 05:01:09 PM
Quote from: Truvelo on May 10, 2019, 04:37:00 PM
I wonder why Google earth links act so wacky & the only other highway is 476 & the ramps would only be able to really see it. But that defeats the purpose of the billboard.

There are other highways near the I-95/I-476 interchange, most notably US 13. It doesn't help that, with the broken links, you can't tell exactly where the Google Earth image was taken.

Here is GMSV from slightly further back.  I'm not seeing much wrong with this placement...  https://goo.gl/maps/oVgozux956kpFnfg7

You can also see it just fine from the flyover - https://goo.gl/maps/3ED4onub3vs4vgb18
Are you serious, do you really think most people can really see what that says from that far, I mean I can but its a little far even with my 20/20 vision.


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These sideways billboards along I-95 in Virginia are 800 feet from the right lane - https://goo.gl/maps/cF4ffS8Yj9KyJfUL7 - and I have no trouble seeing these.

This is 800 ft from the billboard in question at 95-476 - https://goo.gl/maps/QCtrRSGrjbdmrDEx7

Per this website - https://pipsignworks.com/sign-visibility-simple-rules-for-getting-noticed/ - 800 ft is visible with 24" letters which on a standard 14' tall billboard is 1/7 the height of the billboard which is not that hard to do.  Plus it is still plenty visible for people on the flyover.
Title: Re: Terrible Billboard Placement
Post by: Flint1979 on May 10, 2019, 09:22:31 PM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on May 10, 2019, 05:26:07 PM
Not sure if it's a placement law but Wisconsin has some placed so far away from the road it's difficult or impossible to read what exit the business is off of or any other details about it. One is for Wendy's in Menomonie on eastbound I-94. There used to be a billboard for Perkins nearby that one that faced perpendicular to the road where you had to turn your head 90 degrees to read it.
Been through there many times and know exactly what you are talking about. I never understood why the billboards were so far off the highway.
Title: Re: Terrible Billboard Placement
Post by: KEVIN_224 on May 10, 2019, 09:42:20 PM
Meanwhile, AFAIK, Maine and Vermont don't allow for billboard advertising along their interstates.

I sometimes wonder if billboard advertising is up to the state or town here in Connecticut. A great example is I-84 in Waterbury, between the CT Route 8 exits east to the Cheshire town line. The line of tall and giant billboards (some electronic) literally stop at that point. You don't see any again until at least the next town (Southington, in Hartford County).

There was once an unintended connection of billboards in the Milford, CT area of I-95. I want to to say they were for:

A V.I.P. place for adult toys and lingerie, etc.
Five Guys
A touring exhibit for the late Princess Diana which was at Foxwoods at the time.  :wow:
Title: Re: Terrible Billboard Placement
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on May 10, 2019, 09:58:59 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on May 10, 2019, 09:22:31 PM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on May 10, 2019, 05:26:07 PM
Not sure if it's a placement law but Wisconsin has some placed so far away from the road it's difficult or impossible to read what exit the business is off of or any other details about it. One is for Wendy's in Menomonie on eastbound I-94. There used to be a billboard for Perkins nearby that one that faced perpendicular to the road where you had to turn your head 90 degrees to read it.
Been through there many times and know exactly what you are talking about. I never understood why the billboards were so far off the highway.

This is max zoom on GSV.

https://goo.gl/maps/9w2BfrXRg2PwdHzn6
Title: Re: Terrible Billboard Placement
Post by: Flint1979 on May 10, 2019, 10:04:01 PM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on May 10, 2019, 09:58:59 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on May 10, 2019, 09:22:31 PM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on May 10, 2019, 05:26:07 PM
Not sure if it's a placement law but Wisconsin has some placed so far away from the road it's difficult or impossible to read what exit the business is off of or any other details about it. One is for Wendy's in Menomonie on eastbound I-94. There used to be a billboard for Perkins nearby that one that faced perpendicular to the road where you had to turn your head 90 degrees to read it.
Been through there many times and know exactly what you are talking about. I never understood why the billboards were so far off the highway.

This is max zoom on GSV.

https://goo.gl/maps/9w2BfrXRg2PwdHzn6
With yours I can make out the Wendy's part but not the next exit, I readjusted it a little bit to see if I could make it out this is the best shot I got https://www.google.com/maps/@44.9192638,-92.0321222,3a,15y,131.2h,94.54t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sWkAW1Urhuv5OyPPwkZEoIQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

And it's right in the area I thought it was in too. I've seen several signs that far of a distance off the highway in Wisconsin it's strange.
Title: Re: Terrible Billboard Placement
Post by: Big John on May 10, 2019, 10:18:42 PM
The billboards are off to a good distance on the Indiana Toll Road  Thus the signs and letters are big to remain visible.
Title: Re: Terrible Billboard Placement
Post by: kphoger on May 10, 2019, 10:37:14 PM
Quote from: Tonytone on May 10, 2019, 05:06:46 PM

Quote from: Mapmikey on May 10, 2019, 05:03:39 PM

Quote from: oscar on May 10, 2019, 05:01:09 PM

Quote from: Truvelo on May 10, 2019, 04:37:00 PM
I wonder why Google earth links act so wacky & the only other highway is 476 & the ramps would only be able to really see it. But that defeats the purpose of the billboard.

There are other highways near the I-95/I-476 interchange, most notably US 13. It doesn't help that, with the broken links, you can't tell exactly where the Google Earth image was taken.

Here is GMSV from slightly further back.  I'm not seeing much wrong with this placement...  https://goo.gl/maps/oVgozux956kpFnfg7

You can also see it just fine from the flyover - https://goo.gl/maps/3ED4onub3vs4vgb18

Are you serious, do you really think most people can really see what that says from that far, I mean I can but its a little far even with my 20/20 vision.

How about this view (https://goo.gl/maps/s97Txp9ctZtM857o9)?  Seems halfway decent.

Or how about this view (https://goo.gl/maps/8VfzVqJMYsKNpYw86)?  Even better.
Title: Re: Terrible Billboard Placement
Post by: jp the roadgeek on May 10, 2019, 10:58:37 PM
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on May 10, 2019, 09:42:20 PM
Meanwhile, AFAIK, Maine and Vermont don't allow for billboard advertising along their interstates.

I sometimes wonder if billboard advertising is up to the state or town here in Connecticut. A great example is I-84 in Waterbury, between the CT Route 8 exits east to the Cheshire town line. The line of tall and giant billboards (some electronic) literally stop at that point. You don't see any again until at least the next town (Southington, in Hartford County).

There was once an unintended connection of billboards in the Milford, CT area of I-95. I want to to say they were for:

A V.I.P. place for adult toys and lingerie, etc.
Five Guys
A touring exhibit for the late Princess Diana which was at Foxwoods at the time.  :wow:

I'm pretty sure the next one EB is the digital one by the 72 East interchange on the Plainville/New Britain line. 
Title: Re: Terrible Billboard Placement
Post by: Flint1979 on May 10, 2019, 11:00:25 PM
Quote from: kphoger on May 10, 2019, 10:37:14 PM
Quote from: Tonytone on May 10, 2019, 05:06:46 PM

Quote from: Mapmikey on May 10, 2019, 05:03:39 PM

Quote from: oscar on May 10, 2019, 05:01:09 PM

Quote from: Truvelo on May 10, 2019, 04:37:00 PM
I wonder why Google earth links act so wacky & the only other highway is 476 & the ramps would only be able to really see it. But that defeats the purpose of the billboard.

There are other highways near the I-95/I-476 interchange, most notably US 13. It doesn't help that, with the broken links, you can't tell exactly where the Google Earth image was taken.

Here is GMSV from slightly further back.  I'm not seeing much wrong with this placement...  https://goo.gl/maps/oVgozux956kpFnfg7

You can also see it just fine from the flyover - https://goo.gl/maps/3ED4onub3vs4vgb18

Are you serious, do you really think most people can really see what that says from that far, I mean I can but its a little far even with my 20/20 vision.

How about this view (https://goo.gl/maps/s97Txp9ctZtM857o9)?  Seems halfway decent.

Or how about this view (https://goo.gl/maps/8VfzVqJMYsKNpYw86)?  Even better.
For the first one, if I'm in a car there I'm seeing that billboard before the bridge.
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.8671109,-75.3442747,3a,75y,30.19h,79.42t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFC_xFUXux2VfPu1uOj41Jw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

For the second one, that's perfect that's probably the ramp they are trying to get you to view it from.
Title: Re: Terrible Billboard Placement
Post by: Tonytone on May 10, 2019, 11:07:57 PM
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on May 10, 2019, 11:05:26 PM
Quote from: Tonytone on May 10, 2019, 03:02:20 PM
This is the sub we've all been waiting for!
(if one already exists it can be merged).

In this Topic people can post the billboards they know that are in bad spots to look at while driving.

Ex: Google Earth Link
https://earth.app.goo.gl/sYtpHt #googleearth
(http://google%20earth%20link
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190510/2e9c63c4df9963770051b14e528f6133.jpg)

Even from far back it's still a bad spot & its on a curve in tight area prone to traffic, they couldn't have picked a better spot for a billboard.


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You mean this billboard?
https://goo.gl/maps/gMKo8gJCChpCMkFR9
Winner winner billboard dinner, yes everyone the billboard can be seen but is it easily seen, this sub is for billboards that are in tough spots or you have to break your neck to see them. Someone posted a few examples above.


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Title: Re: Terrible Billboard Placement
Post by: Flint1979 on May 10, 2019, 11:13:41 PM
Quote from: Tonytone on May 10, 2019, 11:07:57 PM
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on May 10, 2019, 11:05:26 PM
Quote from: Tonytone on May 10, 2019, 03:02:20 PM
This is the sub we've all been waiting for!
(if one already exists it can be merged).

In this Topic people can post the billboards they know that are in bad spots to look at while driving.

Ex: Google Earth Link
https://earth.app.goo.gl/sYtpHt #googleearth
(http://google%20earth%20link
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190510/2e9c63c4df9963770051b14e528f6133.jpg)

Even from far back it's still a bad spot & its on a curve in tight area prone to traffic, they couldn't have picked a better spot for a billboard.


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You mean this billboard?
https://goo.gl/maps/gMKo8gJCChpCMkFR9
Winner winner billboard dinner, yes everyone the billboard can be seen but is it easily seen, this sub is for billboards that are in tough spots or you have to break your neck to see them. Someone posted a few examples above.


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After looking at that sign from various vantage points I don't think it's in a bad spot at all. The ramp traffic can see it easily and you can see it on mainline I-95 before the bridge. However you can't see it from US-13.
Title: Re: Terrible Billboard Placement
Post by: Hot Rod Hootenanny on May 10, 2019, 11:15:36 PM
Quote from: Tonytone on May 10, 2019, 11:07:57 PM
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on May 10, 2019, 11:05:26 PM
Quote from: Tonytone on May 10, 2019, 03:02:20 PM
This is the sub we've all been waiting for!
(if one already exists it can be merged).

In this Topic people can post the billboards they know that are in bad spots to look at while driving.

Ex: Google Earth Link
https://earth.app.goo.gl/sYtpHt #googleearth
(http://google%20earth%20link
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190510/2e9c63c4df9963770051b14e528f6133.jpg)

Even from far back it's still a bad spot & its on a curve in tight area prone to traffic, they couldn't have picked a better spot for a billboard.


iPhone

You mean this billboard?
https://goo.gl/maps/gMKo8gJCChpCMkFR9
Winner winner billboard dinner, yes everyone the billboard can be seen but is it easily seen, this sub is for billboards that are in tough spots or you have to break your neck to see them. Someone posted a few examples above.


The billboard in question, from Tonytone, I believe was designed for those traveling on the ramp from I-95 NB to I-476 NB
The google link I'm providing is 3 years older than what is offered for the ramp from I-95 SB to I-476 NB, but you can see the difference in visibility.
https://goo.gl/maps/gjVbsjFsdguxTFik6
Title: Re: Terrible Billboard Placement
Post by: ErmineNotyours on May 10, 2019, 11:51:03 PM
Does it count if it was placed in a good place, but Then someone built a bridge over the sightlines (https://goo.gl/maps/oL6aXBpJkjoexfkP8)?

Or if the state refuses to cut the trees along side the road (https://goo.gl/maps/qEo96mqcTqFRftYU7)?  (It can still be seen okay in the winter.)
Title: Re: Terrible Billboard Placement
Post by: Tonytone on May 11, 2019, 12:45:35 AM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on May 10, 2019, 11:51:03 PM
Does it count if it was placed in a good place, but Then someone built a bridge over the sightlines (https://goo.gl/maps/oL6aXBpJkjoexfkP8)?

Or if the state refuses to cut the trees along side the road (https://goo.gl/maps/qEo96mqcTqFRftYU7)?  (It can still be seen okay in the winter.)
I guess that can count since its been made into "terrible location"  


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Title: Re: Terrible Billboard Placement
Post by: Flint1979 on May 11, 2019, 10:58:48 AM
Quote from: ErmineNotyours on May 10, 2019, 11:51:03 PM
Does it count if it was placed in a good place, but Then someone built a bridge over the sightlines (https://goo.gl/maps/oL6aXBpJkjoexfkP8)?

Or if the state refuses to cut the trees along side the road (https://goo.gl/maps/qEo96mqcTqFRftYU7)?  (It can still be seen okay in the winter.)
Was the railroad crossing in the first link at one time an at grade crossing and then a bridge was built?
Title: Re: Terrible Billboard Placement
Post by: Tonytone on May 11, 2019, 11:04:38 AM
Quote from: Flint1979 on May 10, 2019, 11:00:25 PM
Quote from: kphoger on May 10, 2019, 10:37:14 PM
Quote from: Tonytone on May 10, 2019, 05:06:46 PM

Quote from: Mapmikey on May 10, 2019, 05:03:39 PM

Quote from: oscar on May 10, 2019, 05:01:09 PM

Quote from: Truvelo on May 10, 2019, 04:37:00 PM
I wonder why Google earth links act so wacky & the only other highway is 476 & the ramps would only be able to really see it. But that defeats the purpose of the billboard.

There are other highways near the I-95/I-476 interchange, most notably US 13. It doesn't help that, with the broken links, you can't tell exactly where the Google Earth image was taken.

Here is GMSV from slightly further back.  I'm not seeing much wrong with this placement...  https://goo.gl/maps/oVgozux956kpFnfg7

You can also see it just fine from the flyover - https://goo.gl/maps/3ED4onub3vs4vgb18

Are you serious, do you really think most people can really see what that says from that far, I mean I can but its a little far even with my 20/20 vision.

How about this view (https://goo.gl/maps/s97Txp9ctZtM857o9)?  Seems halfway decent.

Or how about this view (https://goo.gl/maps/8VfzVqJMYsKNpYw86)?  Even better.
For the first one, if I'm in a car there I'm seeing that billboard before the bridge.
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.8671109,-75.3442747,3a,75y,30.19h,79.42t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFC_xFUXux2VfPu1uOj41Jw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

For the second one, that's perfect that's probably the ramp they are trying to get you to view it from.
Yes for a quick second on 95 NB. But is it really safe to look at a billboard on a ramp with a curve?


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Title: Re: Terrible Billboard Placement
Post by: Flint1979 on May 11, 2019, 11:15:29 AM
Quote from: Tonytone on May 11, 2019, 11:04:38 AM
Quote from: Flint1979 on May 10, 2019, 11:00:25 PM
Quote from: kphoger on May 10, 2019, 10:37:14 PM
Quote from: Tonytone on May 10, 2019, 05:06:46 PM

Quote from: Mapmikey on May 10, 2019, 05:03:39 PM

Quote from: oscar on May 10, 2019, 05:01:09 PM

Quote from: Truvelo on May 10, 2019, 04:37:00 PM
I wonder why Google earth links act so wacky & the only other highway is 476 & the ramps would only be able to really see it. But that defeats the purpose of the billboard.

There are other highways near the I-95/I-476 interchange, most notably US 13. It doesn't help that, with the broken links, you can't tell exactly where the Google Earth image was taken.

Here is GMSV from slightly further back.  I'm not seeing much wrong with this placement...  https://goo.gl/maps/oVgozux956kpFnfg7

You can also see it just fine from the flyover - https://goo.gl/maps/3ED4onub3vs4vgb18

Are you serious, do you really think most people can really see what that says from that far, I mean I can but its a little far even with my 20/20 vision.

How about this view (https://goo.gl/maps/s97Txp9ctZtM857o9)?  Seems halfway decent.

Or how about this view (https://goo.gl/maps/8VfzVqJMYsKNpYw86)?  Even better.
For the first one, if I'm in a car there I'm seeing that billboard before the bridge.
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.8671109,-75.3442747,3a,75y,30.19h,79.42t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFC_xFUXux2VfPu1uOj41Jw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

For the second one, that's perfect that's probably the ramp they are trying to get you to view it from.
Yes for a quick second on 95 NB. But is it really safe to look at a billboard on a ramp with a curve?


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The suggest speed on the ramp is 35 mph and you can view the entire sign before the curve and even as your on the curve it's wide open to see.

This right here is a ramp I use every day. https://www.google.com/maps/@43.4334117,-83.8902812,3a,75y,329.39h,90.25t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sERzipEb1jgSEzgrvP--ipg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

And this is the view on NB I-75
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.4329195,-83.8906232,3a,75y,4.8h,87.42t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxhk8Bk9FTOTNPo36Kxz5_g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

And SB I-75
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.4343147,-83.8909396,3a,75y,178.89h,86.1t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-9N-0o3tSKttewgHzXQbzA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

I guess that's not a real good example but it's one I've noticed before.
Title: Re: Terrible Billboard Placement
Post by: Tonytone on May 11, 2019, 11:20:36 AM
Quote from: Flint1979 on May 11, 2019, 11:15:29 AM
Quote from: Tonytone on May 11, 2019, 11:04:38 AM
Quote from: Flint1979 on May 10, 2019, 11:00:25 PM
Quote from: kphoger on May 10, 2019, 10:37:14 PM
Quote from: Tonytone on May 10, 2019, 05:06:46 PM

Quote from: Mapmikey on May 10, 2019, 05:03:39 PM

Quote from: oscar on May 10, 2019, 05:01:09 PM

Quote from: Truvelo on May 10, 2019, 04:37:00 PM
I wonder why Google earth links act so wacky & the only other highway is 476 & the ramps would only be able to really see it. But that defeats the purpose of the billboard.

There are other highways near the I-95/I-476 interchange, most notably US 13. It doesn't help that, with the broken links, you can't tell exactly where the Google Earth image was taken.

Here is GMSV from slightly further back.  I'm not seeing much wrong with this placement...  https://goo.gl/maps/oVgozux956kpFnfg7

You can also see it just fine from the flyover - https://goo.gl/maps/3ED4onub3vs4vgb18

Are you serious, do you really think most people can really see what that says from that far, I mean I can but its a little far even with my 20/20 vision.

How about this view (https://goo.gl/maps/s97Txp9ctZtM857o9)?  Seems halfway decent.

Or how about this view (https://goo.gl/maps/8VfzVqJMYsKNpYw86)?  Even better.
For the first one, if I'm in a car there I'm seeing that billboard before the bridge.
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.8671109,-75.3442747,3a,75y,30.19h,79.42t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFC_xFUXux2VfPu1uOj41Jw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

For the second one, that's perfect that's probably the ramp they are trying to get you to view it from.
Yes for a quick second on 95 NB. But is it really safe to look at a billboard on a ramp with a curve?


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The suggest speed on the ramp is 35 mph and you can view the entire sign before the curve and even as your on the curve it's wide open to see.

This right here is a ramp I use every day. https://www.google.com/maps/@43.4334117,-83.8902812,3a,75y,329.39h,90.25t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sERzipEb1jgSEzgrvP--ipg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

And this is the view on NB I-75
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.4329195,-83.8906232,3a,75y,4.8h,87.42t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxhk8Bk9FTOTNPo36Kxz5_g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

And SB I-75
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.4343147,-83.8909396,3a,75y,178.89h,86.1t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-9N-0o3tSKttewgHzXQbzA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

I guess that's not a real good example but it's one I've noticed before.
SB & NB 75 are good, but the one on the ramp is unsafe imo because you have to turn your head like a owl.


Also that ramp that I posted is a major highway & people go faster then 35 MPH & the curve is tight so if you make a mistake you can really cause an accident. Looking at that billboard is the last of anyone's concern in that area. Thats why its bad placement.


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Title: Re: Terrible Billboard Placement
Post by: Flint1979 on May 11, 2019, 12:53:06 PM
Quote from: Tonytone on May 11, 2019, 11:20:36 AM
Quote from: Flint1979 on May 11, 2019, 11:15:29 AM
Quote from: Tonytone on May 11, 2019, 11:04:38 AM
Quote from: Flint1979 on May 10, 2019, 11:00:25 PM
Quote from: kphoger on May 10, 2019, 10:37:14 PM
Quote from: Tonytone on May 10, 2019, 05:06:46 PM

Quote from: Mapmikey on May 10, 2019, 05:03:39 PM

Quote from: oscar on May 10, 2019, 05:01:09 PM

Quote from: Truvelo on May 10, 2019, 04:37:00 PM
I wonder why Google earth links act so wacky & the only other highway is 476 & the ramps would only be able to really see it. But that defeats the purpose of the billboard.

There are other highways near the I-95/I-476 interchange, most notably US 13. It doesn't help that, with the broken links, you can't tell exactly where the Google Earth image was taken.

Here is GMSV from slightly further back.  I'm not seeing much wrong with this placement...  https://goo.gl/maps/oVgozux956kpFnfg7

You can also see it just fine from the flyover - https://goo.gl/maps/3ED4onub3vs4vgb18

Are you serious, do you really think most people can really see what that says from that far, I mean I can but its a little far even with my 20/20 vision.

How about this view (https://goo.gl/maps/s97Txp9ctZtM857o9)?  Seems halfway decent.

Or how about this view (https://goo.gl/maps/8VfzVqJMYsKNpYw86)?  Even better.
For the first one, if I'm in a car there I'm seeing that billboard before the bridge.
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.8671109,-75.3442747,3a,75y,30.19h,79.42t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFC_xFUXux2VfPu1uOj41Jw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

For the second one, that's perfect that's probably the ramp they are trying to get you to view it from.
Yes for a quick second on 95 NB. But is it really safe to look at a billboard on a ramp with a curve?


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The suggest speed on the ramp is 35 mph and you can view the entire sign before the curve and even as your on the curve it's wide open to see.

This right here is a ramp I use every day. https://www.google.com/maps/@43.4334117,-83.8902812,3a,75y,329.39h,90.25t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sERzipEb1jgSEzgrvP--ipg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

And this is the view on NB I-75
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.4329195,-83.8906232,3a,75y,4.8h,87.42t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxhk8Bk9FTOTNPo36Kxz5_g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

And SB I-75
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.4343147,-83.8909396,3a,75y,178.89h,86.1t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-9N-0o3tSKttewgHzXQbzA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

I guess that's not a real good example but it's one I've noticed before.
SB & NB 75 are good, but the one on the ramp is unsafe imo because you have to turn your head like a owl.


Also that ramp that I posted is a major highway & people go faster then 35 MPH & the curve is tight so if you make a mistake you can really cause an accident. Looking at that billboard is the last of anyone's concern in that area. Thats why its bad placement.


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You don't have to turn your head to see that sign, the vantage point I had the GSV at was after the curve. Here's the same ramp with the GSV moved back slightly. I could go take a picture of it myself too. Even if you did turn your head to look at it that's not that big of a deal. Most traffic going around that curve is going about 60 mph. Honestly though it's a sign meant for I-75 traffic. In the GSV they are advertising for Covenant Hospital which in reality you'd have to take I-675 to get to anyway. The other side of the sign is advertising for some website. It's not much of a distraction though on the ramp.

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.4319982,-83.8890185,3a,20.2y,339.91h,90.95t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOhnIUFPkLR6FTH6ZmmisYw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Title: Re: Terrible Billboard Placement
Post by: Flint1979 on May 11, 2019, 12:54:38 PM
As for the billboard in Philly you're still going to be able to see the sign regardless of how fast you are driving on the ramp. 35 is only the suggested speed I'd probably be doing about 50 mph around that ramp.
Title: Re: Terrible Billboard Placement
Post by: Flint1979 on May 11, 2019, 04:27:55 PM
I just drove past the sign that I mentioned earlier and I read the whole sign before the curve doing 70 miles an hour
Title: Re: Terrible Billboard Placement
Post by: jon daly on May 11, 2019, 07:20:05 PM
I think that they're a form of visual pollution and wouldn't mind if they were banned.

That said, I have a soft spot for large gas station signs.
Title: Re: Terrible Billboard Placement
Post by: bdmoss88 on May 12, 2019, 02:45:20 PM
I drive past this one all the time, for the bingo hall/old dog track. It's been there for years. It's on northbound I-85 about a quarter mile north of exit 22.

https://goo.gl/maps/PzmF446RAKpLUT2D7
Title: Re: Terrible Billboard Placement
Post by: roadman on May 13, 2019, 12:15:59 PM
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on May 10, 2019, 09:42:20 PM
Meanwhile, AFAIK, Maine and Vermont don't allow for billboard advertising along their interstates.

I sometimes wonder if billboard advertising is up to the state or town here in Connecticut. A great example is I-84 in Waterbury, between the CT Route 8 exits east to the Cheshire town line. The line of tall and giant billboards (some electronic) literally stop at that point. You don't see any again until at least the next town (Southington, in Hartford County).

There was once an unintended connection of billboards in the Milford, CT area of I-95. I want to to say they were for:

A V.I.P. place for adult toys and lingerie, etc.
Five Guys
A touring exhibit for the late Princess Diana which was at Foxwoods at the time.  :wow:
In Massachusetts, billboard advertising adjacent to Interstates and freeways is overseen and approved by MassDOT.  However, a request to place billboards requires local approval (including a public hearing) before the application can be reviewed.
Title: Re: Terrible Billboard Placement
Post by: Tonytone on May 13, 2019, 12:43:57 PM
Quote from: Chris19001 on May 13, 2019, 12:41:00 PM
Yes, it is easily seen.  I have never had an issue seeing it from the various vantage points, and obviously someone is paying good money to advertise there so they would agree too. 
Tonytone, you are the only person so far who thinks otherwise.  Why is that?
I just think this billboard is in a bad spot, with all the traffic that can occur & people driving like idiots, I would not look at that billboard. But since that wasn't a good example, let me find some more [emoji4][emoji3525].


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Title: Re: Terrible Billboard Placement
Post by: Flint1979 on May 13, 2019, 03:24:37 PM
Quote from: Tonytone on May 13, 2019, 12:43:57 PM
Quote from: Chris19001 on May 13, 2019, 12:41:00 PM
Yes, it is easily seen.  I have never had an issue seeing it from the various vantage points, and obviously someone is paying good money to advertise there so they would agree too. 
Tonytone, you are the only person so far who thinks otherwise.  Why is that?
I just think this billboard is in a bad spot, with all the traffic that can occur & people driving like idiots, I would not look at that billboard. But since that wasn't a good example, let me find some more [emoji4][emoji3525].


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Well you'd be looking at that billboard regardless if you were trying to or not since it's right in front of you. It does not require you to turn your head that violently to read it.
Title: Re: Terrible Billboard Placement
Post by: Tonytone on May 13, 2019, 03:25:35 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on May 13, 2019, 03:24:37 PM
Quote from: Tonytone on May 13, 2019, 12:43:57 PM
Quote from: Chris19001 on May 13, 2019, 12:41:00 PM
Yes, it is easily seen.  I have never had an issue seeing it from the various vantage points, and obviously someone is paying good money to advertise there so they would agree too. 
Tonytone, you are the only person so far who thinks otherwise.  Why is that?
I just think this billboard is in a bad spot, with all the traffic that can occur & people driving like idiots, I would not look at that billboard. But since that wasn't a good example, let me find some more [emoji4][emoji3525].


iPhone
Well you'd be looking at that billboard regardless if you were trying to or not since it's right in front of you. It does not require you to turn your head that violently to read it.
What! You cannot force me to look at that billboard thats Communist behavior.


iPhone
Title: Re: Terrible Billboard Placement
Post by: Flint1979 on May 13, 2019, 03:30:47 PM
Quote from: Tonytone on May 13, 2019, 03:25:35 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on May 13, 2019, 03:24:37 PM
Quote from: Tonytone on May 13, 2019, 12:43:57 PM
Quote from: Chris19001 on May 13, 2019, 12:41:00 PM
Yes, it is easily seen.  I have never had an issue seeing it from the various vantage points, and obviously someone is paying good money to advertise there so they would agree too. 
Tonytone, you are the only person so far who thinks otherwise.  Why is that?
I just think this billboard is in a bad spot, with all the traffic that can occur & people driving like idiots, I would not look at that billboard. But since that wasn't a good example, let me find some more [emoji4][emoji3525].


iPhone
Well you'd be looking at that billboard regardless if you were trying to or not since it's right in front of you. It does not require you to turn your head that violently to read it.
What! You cannot force me to look at that billboard thats Communist behavior.


iPhone
Where else you going to be looking? The side of the road? I'm not getting how you don't understand that the sign can be read before the curve or even while on the curve.
Title: Re: Terrible Billboard Placement
Post by: roadman on May 13, 2019, 04:48:59 PM
Quote from: jon daly on May 11, 2019, 07:20:05 PM
I think that they're a form of visual pollution and wouldn't mind if they were banned.

That said, I have a soft spot for large gas station signs.

The big thing around the Boston area of late is companies converting their static boards to digital, which can reasonably support 5 to 6 messages.  So why aren't companies who petition for converting a location to a digital board required to remove 4 to 5 of their other static boards?

The other odd thing about billboards adjacent to Interstates is that they can have a minimum spacing of 500 feet between billboards.  Yet, the minimum spacing between major guide sign sis 800 feet.  So, the billboards with the less critical messages can be spaced more closely together than the guide signs with important messages.  Am I the only one who sees something wrong here?
Title: Re: Terrible Billboard Placement
Post by: kphoger on May 13, 2019, 09:49:09 PM
Quote from: roadman on May 13, 2019, 04:48:59 PM
The big thing around the Boston area of late is companies converting their static boards to digital, which can reasonably support 5 to 6 messages.  So why aren't companies who petition for converting a location to a digital board required to remove 4 to 5 of their other static boards?

That math doesn't work out.  Each message can only been seen 20% of the time.  On a static sign, the message is visible 100% of the time.
Title: Re: Terrible Billboard Placement
Post by: Tonytone on May 13, 2019, 09:53:28 PM
Quote from: roadman on May 13, 2019, 04:48:59 PM
Quote from: jon daly on May 11, 2019, 07:20:05 PM
I think that they're a form of visual pollution and wouldn't mind if they were banned.

That said, I have a soft spot for large gas station signs.

The big thing around the Boston area of late is companies converting their static boards to digital, which can reasonably support 5 to 6 messages.  So why aren't companies who petition for converting a location to a digital board required to remove 4 to 5 of their other static boards?

The other odd thing about billboards adjacent to Interstates is that they can have a minimum spacing of 500 feet between billboards.  Yet, the minimum spacing between major guide sign sis 800 feet.  So, the billboards with the less critical messages can be spaced more closely together than the guide signs with important messages.  Am I the only one who sees something wrong here?
I guess the advertisements pay to play in this situation, but then again the difference in spacing of feet between the billboards could be because they want you to see the advertisements first & then the Guide signs next, or vice versa. You cant look at both at the same time.... this is unless you're crossed eyed.


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Title: Re: Terrible Billboard Placement
Post by: sparker on May 17, 2019, 05:10:59 PM
When US 99 was expanded out to an expressway in the San Joaquin Valley in the '50's, there was always one anomaly that affected NB traffic between Madera and the CA 152 junction -- the carriageway, which was the closest to the RR tracks at that point, swerved on a westward arc on about a 50-60' center (into the median) to avoid a single billboard that for some reason had been placed farther away from the tracks than others along that same segment.  That persisted throughout the '80's and into the early '90's (long after it became CA 99), and wasn't corrected until the initial project to convert that section into a full freeway ca. 1994; at which point all the billboards, including the oddly placed one, were removed and the carriageway straightened out (that particular location became a merge point from a diamond on-ramp).  IIRC, this was an older-style billboard perched on a massive base; most of its neighbors were on single or dual poles -- and invariably carried advertising for a broker dealing in farm equipment insurance (not surprising for the region).  But how that particular billboard got what amounted to a "pass" from the Division of Highways/Caltrans had always intrigued me -- but not to the point where I did any more than ask my now ex-wife (Madera-based attorney) if she, being a local, knew anything about the situation (she didn't).  Today, obviously a moot issue.   
Title: Re: Terrible Billboard Placement
Post by: Roadwarriors79 on May 23, 2019, 03:45:31 PM
Billboard restrictions vary from state to state. Alaska, Hawaii, Maine, and Vermont have banned billboards for decades.