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Title: Extremely short segments of roads in states
Post by: TheGrassGuy on January 14, 2020, 05:43:46 PM
*I-684 in Connecticut (1.4 mi, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/41.0887792,-73.7177466/41.1078877,-73.7122662/@41.0928906,-73.715518,14.71z/data=!4m9!4m8!1m5!3m4!1m2!1d-73.7177385!2d41.0888076!3s0x89c2bdbb0c0022df:0x6d80190a0b23cc93!1m0!3e0)
*I-95/495 in Washington DC (460 ft, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/38.7929725,-77.0373699/38.7929459,-77.0389835/@38.7924282,-77.0380156,17.83z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)
*US-77 in Iowa (0.3 mi, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/42.4880018,-96.4135533/42.4918456,-96.4126665/@42.4880741,-96.4128708,15.92z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)
*US-58 in Tennessee (0.5 mi, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/36.6002802,-83.6556392/36.5951037,-83.6618418/@36.5932394,-83.6566442,13.96z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)
*US-131 in Indiana (0.6 mi, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/41.7498865,-85.6795768/41.7590322,-85.6773206/@41.7516544,-85.6726171,15z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)
*US-160 in New Mexico (0.9 mi, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/36.9904475,-109.0451919/36.9990476,-109.0340508/@36.9974944,-109.0402609,14.92z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)
*I-72 in Missouri (1.7 mi, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/39.720342,-91.3581145/39.7148467,-91.3888308/@39.7135327,-91.3891332,16z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)
*I-76 in Nebraska (2.7 mi, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/41.0286833,-102.1517363/41.0023528,-102.1903626/@41.0032906,-102.1891446,15.83z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)
*I-295 in Massachusetts (3.7 mi, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/41.9547799,-71.3109714/41.9531471,-71.3814873/@41.9461502,-71.3746176,15.37z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)
*I-41 in Illinois (0.9 mi, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/42.4815163,-87.9464999/42.4945682,-87.9498445/@42.489481,-87.948478,13.96z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)
*I-86 in Pennsylvania (7.0 mi, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/42.1529653,-79.8874089/42.1294204,-79.7620873/@42.0838378,-79.8488367,11.87z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)
*I-24 in Georgia (4.1 mi, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/34.9829596,-85.4665745/34.9829202,-85.4092334/@34.9389762,-85.4700206,11.96z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)
*US-64 in Arizona (4.1 mi, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/36.9207056,-109.0870424/36.8725654,-109.045445/@36.8730886,-109.0931718,12.42z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)
*US-2 in New York (0.9 mi, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/44.9995047,-73.3666293/44.9986212,-73.3483602/@44.9973782,-73.3486352,16.79z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)
*US-206 in New York (0.4 mi, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/41.3067851,-74.80001/41.3119412,-74.8034549/@41.3088025,-74.8026894,16.75z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)
*US-222 in Maryland (3.6 mi, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/39.7214267,-76.1543159/39.6778647,-76.1591287/@39.6661292,-76.1746289,12.33z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)
*US-30 in West Virginia (3.4 mi, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/40.5922552,-80.519128/40.6213006,-80.5635978/@40.6143632,-80.5533806,14.5z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)
*US-166/400 in Missouri (0.6 mi, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/36.9974132,-94.6114005/37.0048025,-94.6179091/@36.9971486,-94.6110344,14.75z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)
*US-8 in Michigan (2.3 mi, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/45.7571107,-87.9217672/45.7872578,-87.9098871/@45.7861559,-87.9112107,16.37z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)
*I-49 in Texas (ramps, 285 ft, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/33.518858,-94.043244/33.5189209,-94.0441666/@33.517509,-94.0418777,17.12z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)

*NH-26 in Vermont (150 ft, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/44.8991129,-71.5082183/44.8990225,-71.5076633/@44.8987344,-71.5072487,18.75z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)
*RI-15 in Massachusetts (0.2 mi, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/41.8727611,-71.3335195/41.873203,-71.3378455/@41.870755,-71.3373301,16.46z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)
*MA-114A in Rhode Island (0.1 mi, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/41.7886113,-71.3329836/41.7897832,-71.3318104/@41.7882439,-71.3331314,16.04z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0 and 0.4 mi, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/41.8291645,-71.3432225/41.8333839,-71.3477972/@41.8316186,-71.3465804,16.87z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)
*RI-78 in Connecticut (0.2 mi, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/41.3941037,-71.841134/41.3940562,-71.8452374/@41.3931011,-71.8446812,17.04z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)
*VT-279 in New York (1.2 mi, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/42.879469,-73.2907041/42.892699,-73.2760064/@42.8911403,-73.2772121,17.75z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)
*NY-149 in Vermont (1.3 mi, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/43.4014564,-73.2260237/43.4061085,-73.2509445/@43.4052652,-73.2468175,16.5z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)
*NY-295 in Massachusetts (1.7 mi, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/42.3939775,-73.3672465/42.3898885,-73.3967013/@42.3897499,-73.3828722,13.71z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)
*ME-113 in New Hampshire (4.6 mi, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/44.2023892,-71.0065494/44.2658496,-71.0094079/@44.2527413,-70.9824384,12z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)
*ME-113B in New Hampshire (300 ft, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/44.2010897,-71.005931/44.2003336,-71.0064445/@44.2004108,-71.0059972,17.96z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0 and 1.0 mi https://www.google.com/maps/dir/44.1641341,-71.0047334/44.1604321,-70.985478/@44.1631148,-70.9970949,15.92z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)
*MSR-896 in Maryland (0.2 mi, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/39.7197753,-75.7885953/39.7221863,-75.7908619/@39.7210272,-75.7920836,17.42z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)
*PA-43 in West Virginia (3.9 mi, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/39.720747,-79.8222185/39.670954,-79.8514108/@39.6947375,-79.859455,13z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)
*WYO-70 in Colorado (1.1 mi, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/41.0030149,-107.3862027/41.003052,-107.3675702/@41.0014018,-107.3706038,16.71z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)

Close calls:
*US-31 in Florida (0.2 mi from border)
*US-59 in Arkansas (370 ft from border)
*I-84 in New Jersey (33 ft from border)
*US 6/209 in New Jersey (0.7 mi from border at Matamoras/Port Jervis)
*I-87 in New Jersey (0.4 mi from border)
*US-250 in Pennsylvania (0.7 mi from border)
*US-220 in New York (100 ft from border)
*US-46 in Pennsylvania (0.1 mi from border)
And the closest call of all...

*US-412 in Texas (3 feet of the border!)
Title: Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
Post by: hotdogPi on January 14, 2020, 05:46:09 PM
US 412 does not enter Texas.
Title: Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
Post by: TheGrassGuy on January 14, 2020, 05:47:26 PM
Quote from: 1 on January 14, 2020, 05:46:09 PM
US 412 does not enter Texas.
According to Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Route_412): "Just before entering Oklahoma, the highway touches the northwestern corner of Texas at a small road junction."
Title: Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
Post by: ozarkman417 on January 14, 2020, 05:49:46 PM
I-24 in Georgia, to meet up with I-59

SM-G965U

Title: Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
Post by: sprjus4 on January 14, 2020, 06:02:56 PM
US-58 in Tennessee.

0.7 mile segment connecting to US-25E.


I-26 ending in Tennessee just short of the Virginia border would fall under close calls. It terminates just south of the border feeding into US-23 which takes traffic into Virginia.
Title: Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
Post by: sprjus4 on January 14, 2020, 06:06:46 PM
Quote from: TheGrassGuy on January 14, 2020, 05:47:26 PM
Quote from: 1 on January 14, 2020, 05:46:09 PM
US 412 does not enter Texas.
According to Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Route_412): "Just before entering Oklahoma, the highway touches the northwestern corner of Texas at a small road junction."
It touches the tip of the northwest border. I'd say it'd be better off under close calls.
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.5003572,-103.0408956,318m/data=!3m1!1e3
Title: Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
Post by: ozarkman417 on January 14, 2020, 06:24:33 PM
Quote from: sprjus4 on January 14, 2020, 06:06:46 PM
Quote from: TheGrassGuy on January 14, 2020, 05:47:26 PM
Quote from: 1 on January 14, 2020, 05:46:09 PM
US 412 does not enter Texas.
According to Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Route_412): "Just before entering Oklahoma, the highway touches the northwestern corner of Texas at a small road junction."
It touches the tip of the northwest border. I'd say it'd be better off under close calls.
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.5003572,-103.0408956,318m/data=!3m1!1e3
In that case US 64 and 56 are also "close calls" in Texas, though I wonder if TxDOT has anything to do with the road, since the westbound side dosen't even enter the state (I don't think it does, at least).

SM-G965U

Title: Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
Post by: kphoger on January 14, 2020, 06:31:32 PM
US-400 in Missouri is only about a half-mile long.




Quote from: TheGrassGuy on January 14, 2020, 05:43:46 PM
And the shortest one of all...

*US-412 in Texas

Quote from: sprjus4 on January 14, 2020, 06:06:46 PM

Quote from: TheGrassGuy on January 14, 2020, 05:47:26 PM

Quote from: 1 on January 14, 2020, 05:46:09 PM
US 412 does not enter Texas.

According to Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Route_412): "Just before entering Oklahoma, the highway touches the northwestern corner of Texas at a small road junction."

It touches the tip of the northwest border. I'd say it'd be better off under close calls.
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.5003572,-103.0408956,318m/data=!3m1!1e3

US-56/64/412 misses Texas by just a couple of feet.  Please see photographic evidence of the marker below.

(https://www.markjamesmullins.com/images/NWTX_markervs56.jpg)
[from a detailed description (https://www.markjamesmullins.com/nwtxcorner.html) by Mark James Mullins]

Furthermore, I can find no reference to US-56, US-64, or US-412 anywhere in TxDOT.  There is no designation file for any of those highways, nor can I locate any document referring to a highway with any of those numbers in Dallam County.
Title: Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
Post by: ozarkman417 on January 14, 2020, 06:39:57 PM
US 166 is the same length as US-400 in MO (used to go to Springfield), and US 56 enters MO for ~ 2.75 miles to end at US-71.

US 166/400 (Downstream Blvd) leads to a casino of the same name, where you exit the highway in MO, park in KS, and gamble in OK..
Title: Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
Post by: formulanone on January 14, 2020, 06:54:54 PM
US 2 in New York
US 340 in Virginia
MSR 896 in Delaware
Title: Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
Post by: oscar on January 14, 2020, 07:04:54 PM
Quote from: formulanone on January 14, 2020, 06:54:54 PM
US 340 in Virginia

Only its separate northern segment (about a half-mile). Its southern segment, starting near Staunton, is over 120 miles long.
Title: Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
Post by: TheGrassGuy on January 14, 2020, 07:38:56 PM
Quote from: formulanone on January 14, 2020, 06:54:54 PM
US 2 in New York
US 340 in Virginia
MSR 896 in Delaware

MSR for multi-state route? Gee, that's a new one!  :clap:
Title: Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
Post by: hotdogPi on January 14, 2020, 07:42:52 PM
Quote from: TheGrassGuy on January 14, 2020, 07:38:56 PM
Quote from: formulanone on January 14, 2020, 06:54:54 PM
US 2 in New York
US 340 in Virginia
MSR 896 in Delaware

MSR for multi-state route? Gee, that's a new one!  :clap:

When I first saw MSR, I thought it was its own designation similar to CKC 110.
Title: Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
Post by: Rothman on January 14, 2020, 08:17:04 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 14, 2020, 06:31:32 PM
US-400 in Missouri is only about a half-mile long.




Quote from: TheGrassGuy on January 14, 2020, 05:43:46 PM
And the shortest one of all...

*US-412 in Texas

Quote from: sprjus4 on January 14, 2020, 06:06:46 PM

Quote from: TheGrassGuy on January 14, 2020, 05:47:26 PM

Quote from: 1 on January 14, 2020, 05:46:09 PM
US 412 does not enter Texas.

According to Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Route_412): "Just before entering Oklahoma, the highway touches the northwestern corner of Texas at a small road junction."

It touches the tip of the northwest border. I'd say it'd be better off under close calls.
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.5003572,-103.0408956,318m/data=!3m1!1e3

US-56/64/412 misses Texas by just a couple of feet.  Please see photographic evidence of the marker below.

(https://www.markjamesmullins.com/images/NWTX_markervs56.jpg)
[from a detailed description (https://www.markjamesmullins.com/nwtxcorner.html) by Mark James Mullins]

Furthermore, I can find no reference to US-56, US-64, or US-412 anywhere in TxDOT.  There is no designation file for any of those highways, nor can I locate any document referring to a highway with any of those numbers in Dallam County.
There's a witness marker there as well that a lot of people mistake for the corner point.
Title: Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
Post by: Sam on January 14, 2020, 08:20:22 PM
NY 17 in Pennsylvania
Title: Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
Post by: dlsterner on January 14, 2020, 10:30:16 PM
Quote from: formulanone on January 14, 2020, 06:54:54 PM
MSR 896 in Delaware

Both DE 896 and PA 896 have decent length to them, however MD 896 is only 0.21 miles long.  Only drove it once, but do not recall seeing any "Welcome to Maryland" signs - it was as if you went straight from PA into DE.
Title: Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
Post by: bassoon1986 on January 14, 2020, 10:38:07 PM
I wouldn't call US 59 in Arkansas a close call. Over 100 miles. It just happens to be essentially non-existent in Arkansas' eyes because it's completely concurrent with US 71 and US 270.


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Title: Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
Post by: jp the roadgeek on January 14, 2020, 10:51:12 PM
All 69 feet of MSR 26 in VT
All 0.23 mi of (unsigned) MA 15 coming from RI
2 segments of RI/MA 114A totaling 0.3 miles
ME 113 and ME 113B in NH
All 0.91 mi of MA 108 coming from NH
All 1.3 miles of VT 149 coming from NY
All 1.67 miles of MA 295 coming from NY (even shorter than I-295 in MA)
All 0.7 miles of WV 43 coming from PA

As for the segment of US 340 in VA, I'm assuming the Loudon County piece.  US 340 does spend a significant amount of time in VA east of Winchester

Title: Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
Post by: J3ebrules on January 15, 2020, 12:08:53 AM
US 46 is entirely in the state of NJ and never touches PA - the western terminus is at I-80, a distinct exit well before the Delaware River.
Title: Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
Post by: debragga on January 15, 2020, 12:21:10 AM
It hasn't been extended that far yet, but the planned section of I-49 in Texas
Title: Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
Post by: DJ Particle on January 15, 2020, 01:11:38 AM
How do the terminii of MA/RI 114A stack up?
Title: Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
Post by: jp the roadgeek on January 15, 2020, 01:49:26 AM
US 206 in PA is only 0.46 miles.  Used to be longer when it duplexed with US 209 to its parent.
Title: Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
Post by: wxfree on January 15, 2020, 02:22:03 AM
Quote from: debragga on January 15, 2020, 12:21:10 AM
It hasn't been extended that far yet, but the planned section of I-49 in Texas

According to Google Earth, a little less than 200 feet of each ramp is in Texas, measuring to the edge of US 59/71.  The USGS map shows the highway about 270 feet from the state line, as a single road, which is likely today's southbound lanes, and Google Earth shows the same distance from the state line to the southbound lanes, so it seems the state line location is pretty accurate.  There's no right-of-way map on the web site for that stretch of road, but the fences indicate that the right-of-way does not extend to the state line, which would mean that there's I-49 ROW in Texas under those ramps.  Google Earth says it's about 120 feet.  I don't know if TxDOT built that piece of road, claims ownership of it, or paid for the land under it.  It isn't mentioned anywhere, including the Statewide Planning Map, but it's almost certainly in the state.  It isn't a freeway, so it isn't "the Interstate," but it's a part of the Interstate and probably on its own ROW.
Title: Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
Post by: formulanone on January 15, 2020, 05:43:46 AM
Quote from: dlsterner on January 14, 2020, 10:30:16 PM
Quote from: formulanone on January 14, 2020, 06:54:54 PM
MSR 896 in Delaware

Both DE 896 and PA 896 have decent length to them, however MD 896 is only 0.21 miles long.  Only drove it once, but do not recall seeing any "Welcome to Maryland" signs - it was as if you went straight from PA into DE.

I meant to put Maryland; my mistake.
Title: Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
Post by: sprjus4 on January 15, 2020, 06:08:44 AM
Quote from: wxfree on January 15, 2020, 02:22:03 AM
According to Google Earth, a little less than 200 feet of each ramp is in Texas, measuring to the edge of US 59/71.  The USGS map shows the highway about 270 feet from the state line, as a single road, which is likely today's southbound lanes, and Google Earth shows the same distance from the state line to the southbound lanes, so it seems the state line location is pretty accurate.  There's no right-of-way map on the web site for that stretch of road, but the fences indicate that the right-of-way does not extend to the state line, which would mean that there's I-49 ROW in Texas under those ramps.  Google Earth says it's about 120 feet.  I don't know if TxDOT built that piece of road, claims ownership of it, or paid for the land under it.  It isn't mentioned anywhere, including the Statewide Planning Map, but it's almost certainly in the state.  It isn't a freeway, so it isn't "the Interstate," but it's a part of the Interstate and probably on its own ROW.

Quote from: debragga on January 15, 2020, 12:21:10 AM
It hasn't been extended that far yet, but the planned section of I-49 in Texas
Title: Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
Post by: GaryV on January 15, 2020, 07:42:20 AM
US-8 in Michigan.  It's measured in miles, not feet like some examples above.  But it's still a very short segment.
Title: Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
Post by: Jim on January 15, 2020, 07:54:29 AM
TM has 25 US Highway segments within a state that are less than 2 miles.  A few carry multiple designations, so are the same segment listed twice.

+--------+-------+---------------------+----------+
| region | route | city                | mileage  |
+--------+-------+---------------------+----------+
| VA     | US219 |                     |  1.63152 |
| VA     | US11W |                     |  1.17307 |
| IL     | US60  |                     |   1.0188 |
| IL     | US62  |                     |   1.0188 |
| WV     | US119 | West Williamson, WV | 0.973001 |
| NY     | US2   |                     |  0.88295 |
| KY     | US31  |                     | 0.868932 |
| NM     | US160 |                     | 0.860789 |
| KY     | US52  | Tug Fork            |   0.7959 |
| KY     | US119 | Tug Fork            |   0.7959 |
| OH     | US223 |                     |  0.78468 |
| WV     | US52  | Goodman, WV         | 0.771417 |
| WV     | US119 | Goodman, WV         | 0.771417 |
| TN     | US58  |                     | 0.680148 |
| IN     | US131 |                     | 0.662626 |
| VA     | US11E |                     |  0.56801 |
| MO     | US166 |                     | 0.560123 |
| MO     | US400 |                     | 0.560123 |
| VA     | US340 | Loudoun Heights, WV | 0.559571 |
| TN     | US45  | South Fulton, TN    | 0.466482 |
| PA     | US206 |                     | 0.406751 |
| IA     | US77  |                     | 0.254329 |
| KY     | US52  | Goodman, WV         | 0.182123 |
| KY     | US119 | Goodman, WV         | 0.182123 |
| ID     | US195 |                     | 0.144528 |
+--------+-------+---------------------+----------+
25 rows in set (0.00 sec)


Same query except for Interstates.

+--------+-------+--------------------------+-----------+
| region | route | city                     | mileage   |
+--------+-------+--------------------------+-----------+
| TN     | I-124 |                          |   1.97224 |
| MO     | I-670 |                          |   1.95626 |
| CA     | I-380 |                          |   1.90375 |
| MO     | I-72  |                          |   1.88443 |
| WA     | I-705 |                          |   1.85085 |
| CA     | I-980 |                          |   1.84885 |
| DC     | I-695 |                          |   1.81756 |
| KS     | I-670 |                          |   1.68996 |
| MD     | I-270 | Ashleigh, MD             |   1.64946 |
| MN     | I-535 |                          |   1.56615 |
| SD     | I-190 |                          |    1.4704 |
| VT     | I-189 |                          |   1.42867 |
| CT     | I-684 |                          |   1.40647 |
| TX     | I-345 |                          |   1.39126 |
| CA     | I-5   | Newhall, CA              |   1.35794 |
| PA     | I-579 |                          |    1.3475 |
| OH     | I-480 | Warrensville Heights, OH |   1.34164 |
| DC     | I-66  |                          |   1.30876 |
| MT     | I-115 |                          |   1.28245 |
| FL     | I-175 |                          |   1.24943 |
| FL     | I-395 |                          |    1.2072 |
| WI     | I-535 |                          |   1.20694 |
| NY     | I-695 |                          |   1.19338 |
| MD     | I-395 | Otterbein, MD            |   1.19287 |
| NY     | I-587 |                          |   1.19146 |
| VA     | I-381 |                          |   1.14629 |
| TX     | I-110 |                          |    1.1264 |
| WY     | I-180 |                          |   1.11989 |
| MI     | I-375 |                          |   1.11824 |
| ND     | I-194 |                          |   1.08662 |
| FL     | I-375 |                          |   1.06486 |
| IL     | I-41  |                          |   1.05146 |
| MT     | I-315 |                          |  0.849427 |
| MD     | I-295 |                          |  0.787973 |
| NY     | I-78  |                          |  0.766025 |
| IA     | I-480 |                          |  0.741675 |
| NY     | I-878 |                          |  0.657861 |
| OH     | I-471 |                          |   0.57136 |
| MD     | I-895 | Ferndale, MD             |    0.5392 |
| MD     | I-395 | Washington Village, MD   |  0.519895 |
| IA     | I-129 |                          |  0.280296 |
| PA     | I-86  | South Waverly, PA        |  0.235195 |
| DC     | I-495 |                          | 0.0679346 |
| DC     | I-95  |                          | 0.0679346 |
+--------+-------+--------------------------+-----------+
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Title: Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
Post by: Jim on January 15, 2020, 07:59:30 AM
TM's 2 shortest overall within the US:

+--------+--------+--------+------------------+------------+
| region | route  | banner | city             | mileage    |
+--------+--------+--------+------------------+------------+
| GA     | TN68   |        |                  |  0.0112353 |
| TN     | KY1076 |        |                  | 0.00440182 |
+--------+--------+--------+------------------+------------+
Title: Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
Post by: epzik8 on January 15, 2020, 08:16:03 AM
I think a very small section of the ramp from I-495 in Delaware north to I-95 is in Pennsylvania.
Title: Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
Post by: Bitmapped on January 15, 2020, 08:22:53 AM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on January 14, 2020, 10:51:12 PM
All 0.7 miles of WV 43 coming from PA

WV 43 is four miles long.
Title: Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
Post by: MNHighwayMan on January 15, 2020, 08:39:54 AM
MN-23 in Wisconsin.
Title: Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
Post by: US 89 on January 15, 2020, 08:59:52 AM
WYO 70 takes a very short dive into Colorado, where it has one intersection with a Moffat County road. Interestingly although WYDOT maintains the whole thing, the state line crossings are signed – but not with the Colorado name. Depending on which direction you're going, you'll get an "Entering Wyoming"  or a "Leaving Wyoming"  sign.
Title: Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
Post by: jp the roadgeek on January 15, 2020, 10:54:15 AM
Quote from: TheGrassGuy on January 14, 2020, 05:43:46 PM
*US-206 in Pennsylvania (0.4 mi, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/41.3067851,-74.80001/41.3119412,-74.8034549/@41.3088025,-74.8026894,16.75z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)

FTFY
Title: Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
Post by: ErmineNotyours on January 15, 2020, 01:23:50 PM
Not exactly in the spirit of OP (it isn't linking another state's highway), but Oregon's SR 120 has shrunk to about a quarter mile, in two different segments: https://www.oregon.gov/ODOT/Data/Documents/SLC_Hwy120.pdf

I'm curious about any and all such official DOT evidence of very short highways.
Title: Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
Post by: hbelkins on January 15, 2020, 01:48:01 PM
Quote from: sprjus4 on January 14, 2020, 06:02:56 PM
US-58 in Tennessee.

0.7 mile segment connecting to US-25E.

Related, US 25E used to be routed through the very southwestern tip of Virginia until the Cumberland Gap Tunnel was built. Now, the route goes directly from Kentucky into Tennessee, which necessitated US 58's extension into Tennessee.

I remember the signage at the Virginia 25E/58 intersection. No cutouts that I ever remember, though.

Quote
I-26 ending in Tennessee just short of the Virginia border would fall under close calls. It terminates just south of the border feeding into US-23 which takes traffic into Virginia.

Actually, I-26 ends at the US 11W interchange, a couple of miles short of the end of the freeway at the state line.
Title: Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
Post by: Rothman on January 15, 2020, 03:14:05 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on January 15, 2020, 01:48:01 PM
Quote from: sprjus4 on January 14, 2020, 06:02:56 PM
US-58 in Tennessee.

0.7 mile segment connecting to US-25E.

Related, US 25E used to be routed through the very southwestern tip of Virginia until the Cumberland Gap Tunnel was built. Now, the route goes directly from Kentucky into Tennessee, which necessitated US 58's extension into Tennessee.

I remember the signage at the Virginia 25E/58 intersection. No cutouts that I ever remember, though.

Makes me wonder where the original alignment went.  I've been to the very point of VA atop Tri-State Peak.  Did it somehow follow where the path goes currently through the Gap?
Title: Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
Post by: PHLBOS on January 15, 2020, 03:23:11 PM
Quote from: epzik8 on January 15, 2020, 08:16:03 AM
I think a very small section of the ramp from I-495 in Delaware north to I-95 is in Pennsylvania.
Correct, there's a 220-foot segment of I-495 in PA based on PennDOT's log; see SR 8009 listing on page 55 (http://www.dot.state.pa.us/public/Bureaus/BOMO/RM/RITS/Annual%20Electronic%20SLDs%20by%20County/District%206/Delaware%20Without%20Pipes.pdf).
Title: Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
Post by: hbelkins on January 15, 2020, 04:19:36 PM
Quote from: Rothman on January 15, 2020, 03:14:05 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on January 15, 2020, 01:48:01 PM
Quote from: sprjus4 on January 14, 2020, 06:02:56 PM
US-58 in Tennessee.

0.7 mile segment connecting to US-25E.

Related, US 25E used to be routed through the very southwestern tip of Virginia until the Cumberland Gap Tunnel was built. Now, the route goes directly from Kentucky into Tennessee, which necessitated US 58's extension into Tennessee.

I remember the signage at the Virginia 25E/58 intersection. No cutouts that I ever remember, though.

Makes me wonder where the original alignment went.  I've been to the very point of VA atop Tri-State Peak.  Did it somehow follow where the path goes currently through the Gap?

Yes, it does. At one time there was a website that had photos from the old road shortly after the tunnel opened and it closed.

My memory of the route is of US 25E going straight through the intersection with US 58 and the Virginia secondary route that leads down into the town of Cumberland Gap. Tenn. That's a later alignment; at one point that was a T-intersection with southbound 25E turning right at US 58 and following the now-VA SR 6xx down into the town, but it was never the through route during my memory, which includes passing through that intersection in the late 1960s.
Title: Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
Post by: Bruce on January 15, 2020, 07:01:08 PM
US 195 in Idaho, which is a funny one (barely over a mile) and is just the offramps for an interchange with US 95. Before the interchange was built, US 95 dived west into Washington and then back northeast into Idaho.
Title: Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
Post by: texaskdog on January 15, 2020, 07:09:10 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on January 15, 2020, 08:39:54 AM
MN-23 in Wisconsin.

Good one!
Title: Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
Post by: webny99 on January 15, 2020, 10:03:53 PM
Quote from: Sam on January 14, 2020, 08:20:22 PM
NY 17 in Pennsylvania

Almost mentioned that one, but then saw it in the OP.

Or so I thought. After they added links, I realized they are referring to the cheater version near Erie. While the real contender is the one I think you are referring to, the quick dip in and out of PA near Sayre.  :)
Title: Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
Post by: Sam on January 16, 2020, 07:07:49 AM
Quote from: webny99 on January 15, 2020, 10:03:53 PM
Quote from: Sam on January 14, 2020, 08:20:22 PM
NY 17 in Pennsylvania
... Erie ... Sayre.
Yes, I was thinking Waverly/Sayre area.
Title: Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
Post by: NWI_Irish96 on January 16, 2020, 09:34:11 AM
Quote from: Jim on January 15, 2020, 07:59:30 AM
TM's 2 shortest overall within the US:

+--------+--------+--------+------------------+------------+
| region | route  | banner | city             | mileage    |
+--------+--------+--------+------------------+------------+
| GA     | TN68   |        |                  |  0.0112353 |
| TN     | KY1076 |        |                  | 0.00440182 |
+--------+--------+--------+------------------+------------+


Are those routes that intentionally cross state lines or did someone just stick an END sign in the wrong spot?
Title: Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
Post by: hbelkins on January 16, 2020, 01:34:16 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on January 16, 2020, 09:34:11 AM
Quote from: Jim on January 15, 2020, 07:59:30 AM
TM's 2 shortest overall within the US:

+--------+--------+--------+------------------+------------+
| region | route  | banner | city             | mileage    |
+--------+--------+--------+------------------+------------+
| GA     | TN68   |        |                  |  0.0112353 |
| TN     | KY1076 |        |                  | 0.00440182 |
+--------+--------+--------+------------------+------------+


Are those routes that intentionally cross state lines or did someone just stick an END sign in the wrong spot?

In the case of KY 1076, it was rerouted when a new alignment of US 127 was built, and the intersection with TN 111 was realigned. Google aerial view (https://goo.gl/maps/NM329W9XJNGhC4cv6) shows the old and new alignments.
Title: Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
Post by: Mark68 on January 16, 2020, 01:52:20 PM
PA 163 borders Maryland. Sometimes the border is actually in the eastbound lane, see here at Citicorp Dr:

https://goo.gl/maps/3W6VmYQT9szA16Jd7

Drove this section a little over a year ago. Was driving north on US 11, turned left on PA 163 to get to I-81 south back toward VA.
Title: Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
Post by: sbeaver44 on January 16, 2020, 02:21:46 PM
Quote from: Bitmapped on January 15, 2020, 08:22:53 AM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on January 14, 2020, 10:51:12 PM
All 0.7 miles of WV 43 coming from PA

WV 43 is four miles long.
And for some reason Wiki still says WV 43 is 0.7mi even though it definitely isn't.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mon%E2%80%93Fayette_Expressway#West%20Virginia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mon%E2%80%93Fayette_Expressway#West%20Virginia)
Title: Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
Post by: hotdogPi on January 16, 2020, 02:24:44 PM
Quote from: sbeaver44 on January 16, 2020, 02:21:46 PM
Quote from: Bitmapped on January 15, 2020, 08:22:53 AM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on January 14, 2020, 10:51:12 PM
All 0.7 miles of WV 43 coming from PA

WV 43 is four miles long.
And for some reason Wiki still says WV 43 is 0.7mi even though it definitely isn't.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mon%E2%80%93Fayette_Expressway#West%20Virginia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mon%E2%80%93Fayette_Expressway#West%20Virginia)

The IP who added it has been range blocked for vandalism, although the content he/she added looks like the number was an honest mistake.
Title: Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
Post by: Eth on January 16, 2020, 07:31:25 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on January 16, 2020, 09:34:11 AM
Quote from: Jim on January 15, 2020, 07:59:30 AM
TM's 2 shortest overall within the US:

+--------+--------+--------+------------------+------------+
| region | route  | banner | city             | mileage    |
+--------+--------+--------+------------------+------------+
| GA     | TN68   |        |                  |  0.0112353 |
| TN     | KY1076 |        |                  | 0.00440182 |
+--------+--------+--------+------------------+------------+


Are those routes that intentionally cross state lines or did someone just stick an END sign in the wrong spot?

For TN 68, I imagine this was purely a matter of convenience. At all of about 20 yards between the state line and the intersection with GA 5, there wouldn't be any point in trying to sign it as anything different for that stretch.

Incidentally, in Street View I see no evidence of the state line itself being signed here, so the difference in route markers (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.9881096,-84.3699082,3a,75y,340.76h,84.27t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sK24vcLCiB6HlC9qbneP1kA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) is really the only thing one has to go off of.
Title: Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
Post by: sbeaver44 on January 16, 2020, 07:53:18 PM
Close calls in Pa:
I-68 at Sideling Hill, less than ⅓ of a mile
US 250 misses the SW corner of PA by 0.7 mi