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Extremely short segments of roads in states
« on: January 14, 2020, 05:43:46 PM »

*I-684 in Connecticut (1.4 mi, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/41.0887792,-73.7177466/41.1078877,-73.7122662/@41.0928906,-73.715518,14.71z/data=!4m9!4m8!1m5!3m4!1m2!1d-73.7177385!2d41.0888076!3s0x89c2bdbb0c0022df:0x6d80190a0b23cc93!1m0!3e0)
*I-95/495 in Washington DC (460 ft, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/38.7929725,-77.0373699/38.7929459,-77.0389835/@38.7924282,-77.0380156,17.83z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)
*US-77 in Iowa (0.3 mi, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/42.4880018,-96.4135533/42.4918456,-96.4126665/@42.4880741,-96.4128708,15.92z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)
*US-58 in Tennessee (0.5 mi, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/36.6002802,-83.6556392/36.5951037,-83.6618418/@36.5932394,-83.6566442,13.96z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)
*US-131 in Indiana (0.6 mi, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/41.7498865,-85.6795768/41.7590322,-85.6773206/@41.7516544,-85.6726171,15z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)
*US-160 in New Mexico (0.9 mi, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/36.9904475,-109.0451919/36.9990476,-109.0340508/@36.9974944,-109.0402609,14.92z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)
*I-72 in Missouri (1.7 mi, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/39.720342,-91.3581145/39.7148467,-91.3888308/@39.7135327,-91.3891332,16z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)
*I-76 in Nebraska (2.7 mi, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/41.0286833,-102.1517363/41.0023528,-102.1903626/@41.0032906,-102.1891446,15.83z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)
*I-295 in Massachusetts (3.7 mi, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/41.9547799,-71.3109714/41.9531471,-71.3814873/@41.9461502,-71.3746176,15.37z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)
*I-41 in Illinois (0.9 mi, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/42.4815163,-87.9464999/42.4945682,-87.9498445/@42.489481,-87.948478,13.96z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)
*I-86 in Pennsylvania (7.0 mi, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/42.1529653,-79.8874089/42.1294204,-79.7620873/@42.0838378,-79.8488367,11.87z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)
*I-24 in Georgia (4.1 mi, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/34.9829596,-85.4665745/34.9829202,-85.4092334/@34.9389762,-85.4700206,11.96z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)
*US-64 in Arizona (4.1 mi, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/36.9207056,-109.0870424/36.8725654,-109.045445/@36.8730886,-109.0931718,12.42z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)
*US-2 in New York (0.9 mi, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/44.9995047,-73.3666293/44.9986212,-73.3483602/@44.9973782,-73.3486352,16.79z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)
*US-206 in New York (0.4 mi, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/41.3067851,-74.80001/41.3119412,-74.8034549/@41.3088025,-74.8026894,16.75z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)
*US-222 in Maryland (3.6 mi, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/39.7214267,-76.1543159/39.6778647,-76.1591287/@39.6661292,-76.1746289,12.33z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)
*US-30 in West Virginia (3.4 mi, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/40.5922552,-80.519128/40.6213006,-80.5635978/@40.6143632,-80.5533806,14.5z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)
*US-166/400 in Missouri (0.6 mi, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/36.9974132,-94.6114005/37.0048025,-94.6179091/@36.9971486,-94.6110344,14.75z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)
*US-8 in Michigan (2.3 mi, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/45.7571107,-87.9217672/45.7872578,-87.9098871/@45.7861559,-87.9112107,16.37z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)
*I-49 in Texas (ramps, 285 ft, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/33.518858,-94.043244/33.5189209,-94.0441666/@33.517509,-94.0418777,17.12z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)

*NH-26 in Vermont (150 ft, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/44.8991129,-71.5082183/44.8990225,-71.5076633/@44.8987344,-71.5072487,18.75z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)
*RI-15 in Massachusetts (0.2 mi, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/41.8727611,-71.3335195/41.873203,-71.3378455/@41.870755,-71.3373301,16.46z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)
*MA-114A in Rhode Island (0.1 mi, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/41.7886113,-71.3329836/41.7897832,-71.3318104/@41.7882439,-71.3331314,16.04z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0 and 0.4 mi, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/41.8291645,-71.3432225/41.8333839,-71.3477972/@41.8316186,-71.3465804,16.87z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)
*RI-78 in Connecticut (0.2 mi, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/41.3941037,-71.841134/41.3940562,-71.8452374/@41.3931011,-71.8446812,17.04z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)
*VT-279 in New York (1.2 mi, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/42.879469,-73.2907041/42.892699,-73.2760064/@42.8911403,-73.2772121,17.75z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)
*NY-149 in Vermont (1.3 mi, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/43.4014564,-73.2260237/43.4061085,-73.2509445/@43.4052652,-73.2468175,16.5z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)
*NY-295 in Massachusetts (1.7 mi, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/42.3939775,-73.3672465/42.3898885,-73.3967013/@42.3897499,-73.3828722,13.71z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)
*ME-113 in New Hampshire (4.6 mi, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/44.2023892,-71.0065494/44.2658496,-71.0094079/@44.2527413,-70.9824384,12z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)
*ME-113B in New Hampshire (300 ft, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/44.2010897,-71.005931/44.2003336,-71.0064445/@44.2004108,-71.0059972,17.96z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0 and 1.0 mi https://www.google.com/maps/dir/44.1641341,-71.0047334/44.1604321,-70.985478/@44.1631148,-70.9970949,15.92z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)
*MSR-896 in Maryland (0.2 mi, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/39.7197753,-75.7885953/39.7221863,-75.7908619/@39.7210272,-75.7920836,17.42z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)
*PA-43 in West Virginia (3.9 mi, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/39.720747,-79.8222185/39.670954,-79.8514108/@39.6947375,-79.859455,13z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)
*WYO-70 in Colorado (1.1 mi, https://www.google.com/maps/dir/41.0030149,-107.3862027/41.003052,-107.3675702/@41.0014018,-107.3706038,16.71z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0)

Close calls:
*US-31 in Florida (0.2 mi from border)
*US-59 in Arkansas (370 ft from border)
*I-84 in New Jersey (33 ft from border)
*US 6/209 in New Jersey (0.7 mi from border at Matamoras/Port Jervis)
*I-87 in New Jersey (0.4 mi from border)
*US-250 in Pennsylvania (0.7 mi from border)
*US-220 in New York (100 ft from border)
*US-46 in Pennsylvania (0.1 mi from border)
And the closest call of all...

*US-412 in Texas (3 feet of the border!)
« Last Edit: January 15, 2020, 09:08:09 AM by TheGrassGuy »
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Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2020, 05:46:09 PM »

US 412 does not enter Texas.
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Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2020, 05:47:26 PM »

US 412 does not enter Texas.
According to Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Route_412): "Just before entering Oklahoma, the highway touches the northwestern corner of Texas at a small road junction."
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Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2020, 05:49:46 PM »

I-24 in Georgia, to meet up with I-59

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Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2020, 06:02:56 PM »

US-58 in Tennessee.

0.7 mile segment connecting to US-25E.

I-26 ending in Tennessee just short of the Virginia border would fall under close calls. It terminates just south of the border feeding into US-23 which takes traffic into Virginia.
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Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2020, 06:06:46 PM »

US 412 does not enter Texas.
According to Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Route_412): "Just before entering Oklahoma, the highway touches the northwestern corner of Texas at a small road junction."
It touches the tip of the northwest border. I'd say it'd be better off under close calls.
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.5003572,-103.0408956,318m/data=!3m1!1e3
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Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2020, 06:24:33 PM »

US 412 does not enter Texas.
According to Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Route_412): "Just before entering Oklahoma, the highway touches the northwestern corner of Texas at a small road junction."
It touches the tip of the northwest border. I'd say it'd be better off under close calls.
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.5003572,-103.0408956,318m/data=!3m1!1e3
In that case US 64 and 56 are also "close calls" in Texas, though I wonder if TxDOT has anything to do with the road, since the westbound side dosen't even enter the state (I don't think it does, at least).

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Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2020, 06:31:32 PM »

US-400 in Missouri is only about a half-mile long.



And the shortest one of all...

*US-412 in Texas



US 412 does not enter Texas.

According to Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Route_412): "Just before entering Oklahoma, the highway touches the northwestern corner of Texas at a small road junction."

It touches the tip of the northwest border. I'd say it'd be better off under close calls.
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.5003572,-103.0408956,318m/data=!3m1!1e3

US-56/64/412 misses Texas by just a couple of feet.  Please see photographic evidence of the marker below.


[from a detailed description by Mark James Mullins]

Furthermore, I can find no reference to US-56, US-64, or US-412 anywhere in TxDOT.  There is no designation file for any of those highways, nor can I locate any document referring to a highway with any of those numbers in Dallam County.
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Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2020, 06:39:57 PM »

US 166 is the same length as US-400 in MO (used to go to Springfield), and US 56 enters MO for ~ 2.75 miles to end at US-71.

US 166/400 (Downstream Blvd) leads to a casino of the same name, where you exit the highway in MO, park in KS, and gamble in OK..
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« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2020, 06:54:54 PM »

US 2 in New York
US 340 in Virginia
MSR 896 in Delaware

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« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2020, 07:04:54 PM »

US 340 in Virginia

Only its separate northern segment (about a half-mile). Its southern segment, starting near Staunton, is over 120 miles long.
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Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2020, 07:38:56 PM »

US 2 in New York
US 340 in Virginia
MSR 896 in Delaware

MSR for multi-state route? Gee, that's a new one!  :clap:
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« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2020, 07:42:52 PM »

US 2 in New York
US 340 in Virginia
MSR 896 in Delaware

MSR for multi-state route? Gee, that's a new one!  :clap:

When I first saw MSR, I thought it was its own designation similar to CKC 110.
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« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2020, 08:17:04 PM »

US-400 in Missouri is only about a half-mile long.



And the shortest one of all...

*US-412 in Texas



US 412 does not enter Texas.

According to Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Route_412): "Just before entering Oklahoma, the highway touches the northwestern corner of Texas at a small road junction."

It touches the tip of the northwest border. I'd say it'd be better off under close calls.
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.5003572,-103.0408956,318m/data=!3m1!1e3

US-56/64/412 misses Texas by just a couple of feet.  Please see photographic evidence of the marker below.


[from a detailed description by Mark James Mullins]

Furthermore, I can find no reference to US-56, US-64, or US-412 anywhere in TxDOT.  There is no designation file for any of those highways, nor can I locate any document referring to a highway with any of those numbers in Dallam County.
There's a witness marker there as well that a lot of people mistake for the corner point.
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« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2020, 08:20:22 PM »

NY 17 in Pennsylvania
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« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2020, 10:30:16 PM »

MSR 896 in Delaware

Both DE 896 and PA 896 have decent length to them, however MD 896 is only 0.21 miles long.  Only drove it once, but do not recall seeing any "Welcome to Maryland" signs - it was as if you went straight from PA into DE.
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Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2020, 10:38:07 PM »

I wouldn’t call US 59 in Arkansas a close call. Over 100 miles. It just happens to be essentially non-existent in Arkansas’ eyes because it’s completely concurrent with US 71 and US 270.


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Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2020, 10:51:12 PM »

All 69 feet of MSR 26 in VT
All 0.23 mi of (unsigned) MA 15 coming from RI
2 segments of RI/MA 114A totaling 0.3 miles
ME 113 and ME 113B in NH
All 0.91 mi of MA 108 coming from NH
All 1.3 miles of VT 149 coming from NY
All 1.67 miles of MA 295 coming from NY (even shorter than I-295 in MA)
All 0.7 miles of WV 43 coming from PA

As for the segment of US 340 in VA, I'm assuming the Loudon County piece.  US 340 does spend a significant amount of time in VA east of Winchester

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Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
« Reply #18 on: January 15, 2020, 12:08:53 AM »

US 46 is entirely in the state of NJ and never touches PA - the western terminus is at I-80, a distinct exit well before the Delaware River.
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Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
« Reply #19 on: January 15, 2020, 12:21:10 AM »

It hasn't been extended that far yet, but the planned section of I-49 in Texas
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« Reply #20 on: January 15, 2020, 01:11:38 AM »

How do the terminii of MA/RI 114A stack up?
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« Reply #21 on: January 15, 2020, 01:49:26 AM »

US 206 in PA is only 0.46 miles.  Used to be longer when it duplexed with US 209 to its parent.
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Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
« Reply #22 on: January 15, 2020, 02:22:03 AM »

It hasn't been extended that far yet, but the planned section of I-49 in Texas

According to Google Earth, a little less than 200 feet of each ramp is in Texas, measuring to the edge of US 59/71.  The USGS map shows the highway about 270 feet from the state line, as a single road, which is likely today's southbound lanes, and Google Earth shows the same distance from the state line to the southbound lanes, so it seems the state line location is pretty accurate.  There's no right-of-way map on the web site for that stretch of road, but the fences indicate that the right-of-way does not extend to the state line, which would mean that there's I-49 ROW in Texas under those ramps.  Google Earth says it's about 120 feet.  I don't know if TxDOT built that piece of road, claims ownership of it, or paid for the land under it.  It isn't mentioned anywhere, including the Statewide Planning Map, but it's almost certainly in the state.  It isn't a freeway, so it isn't "the Interstate," but it's a part of the Interstate and probably on its own ROW.
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Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
« Reply #23 on: January 15, 2020, 05:43:46 AM »

MSR 896 in Delaware

Both DE 896 and PA 896 have decent length to them, however MD 896 is only 0.21 miles long.  Only drove it once, but do not recall seeing any "Welcome to Maryland" signs - it was as if you went straight from PA into DE.

I meant to put Maryland; my mistake.

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Re: Extremely short segments of roads in states
« Reply #24 on: January 15, 2020, 06:08:44 AM »

According to Google Earth, a little less than 200 feet of each ramp is in Texas, measuring to the edge of US 59/71.  The USGS map shows the highway about 270 feet from the state line, as a single road, which is likely today's southbound lanes, and Google Earth shows the same distance from the state line to the southbound lanes, so it seems the state line location is pretty accurate.  There's no right-of-way map on the web site for that stretch of road, but the fences indicate that the right-of-way does not extend to the state line, which would mean that there's I-49 ROW in Texas under those ramps.  Google Earth says it's about 120 feet.  I don't know if TxDOT built that piece of road, claims ownership of it, or paid for the land under it.  It isn't mentioned anywhere, including the Statewide Planning Map, but it's almost certainly in the state.  It isn't a freeway, so it isn't "the Interstate," but it's a part of the Interstate and probably on its own ROW.

It hasn't been extended that far yet, but the planned section of I-49 in Texas
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