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Title: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: BridgesToIdealism on July 23, 2020, 06:43:34 PM
It seems that having signed state routes that have at least one terminus at a dead-end are somewhat common in Louisiana, especially down towards the Delta. However, I was wondering if anyone else knows of any other locations where this occurs in quantity? To clarify, I'm only talking about actively signed routes and current alignments (i.e. old alignments that have been bypassed but left in place in sections don't count). Some of the ones that I have thought of are below.

Louisiana

* LA-300 (dead-end at Delacroix)
* LA-46 (dead-end at Shell Beach)
* LA-624 (dead-end Hopedale Marina)
* LA-23 (dead-end at Venice)
* LA-39 (dead-end just south of the Pointe a la Hache ferry)
* LA-3257 (dead-end across the bayou from Lafitte)
* LA-1 (dead-end at Grand Isle)

Florida

* FL-404/Pineda Causeway (dead-end just west of I-95, although plans for extension)
* FL-9336 (dead-end at Everglades National Park)

South Carolina

* SC-700 (dead-end at Rockville)
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: ilpt4u on July 23, 2020, 06:49:57 PM
What do you mean by dead end? As in the roadway just ends, with no road to turn onto to continue?
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: BridgesToIdealism on July 23, 2020, 06:50:38 PM
Quote from: ilpt4u on July 23, 2020, 06:49:57 PM
What do you mean by dead end? As in the roadway just ends, with no road to turn onto to continue?

Yes
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: hotdogPi on July 23, 2020, 06:51:58 PM
ME 24 is a dead end.
ME 123 is a no outlet but not quite a dead end.
ME 209 is also a no outlet.
RI 77 is almost a no outlet.

All blocked by water.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: jmacswimmer on July 23, 2020, 06:53:08 PM
In Southern Maryland, MD 6 dead-ends at the Potomac River at its western terminus.  MD 5 also dead-ends at its southern terminus in Point Lookout State Park (where the Potomac empties into the Chesapeake).

One of the more prominent examples IMHO of a state route dead-ending would be NC 12 at its northern terminus in Corolla NC, where access to any OBX points further north requires driving directly on the beach. (And the only way back to mainland, for now, requires backtracking 20 miles to US 158 in Kitty Hawk.)
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: Max Rockatansky on July 23, 2020, 07:05:06 PM
Some from California:

CA 39:  The highway exists between I-210 and CA 2 but it is blocked off with no outlet due to a land slide.
CA 169:  Both segments have a dead end with through road built over the implied connection or outlet.
CA 173:  Technically exists between CA 138 and CA 189 but the dirt section is blocked off with no through route.
CA 207:  Ends at the Mount Reba Ski Area.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on July 23, 2020, 07:06:51 PM
MN 11, east end at a resort past the Voyageurs NP entrance. It used to have an end shield, but it didn't in 2016 when I went to that terminus.

Also US 75's north end where the customs stations were closed.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: cu2010 on July 23, 2020, 07:13:19 PM
The most useless NY route, NY 421, dead ends in the middle of nowhere.

NY 189 now effectively dead ends at the Canadian border; this is now a one-way southbound only crossing after the Canadians closed their border station in 2011.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: Max Rockatansky on July 23, 2020, 07:14:51 PM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on July 23, 2020, 07:06:51 PM
MN 11, east end at a resort past the Voyageurs NP entrance. It used to have an end shield, but it didn't in 2016 when I went to that terminus.

MN 169 east of Ely essentially continues onward but trickles into nothing in Superior National Forest. 
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: sprjus4 on July 23, 2020, 07:22:16 PM
VA-125 (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.8343856,-76.5501997,1896m/data=!3m1!1e3) directly in the middle.

There used to be a bridge here over a decade ago, it was demolished and never replaced. VA-125 is still signed on either side.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: Max Rockatansky on July 23, 2020, 07:32:24 PM
Arizona:

AZ 67 dead ends at the North Rim of the Grand Canyon. 
AZ 373 ends in Greer and has no outlet.
AZ 366 ends near the peak of Mount Graham and has no outlet.
AZ 181 dead ends at Chircahua National Monument and has no outlet.
AZ 289 ends in the ghost town of Ruby and has no outlet.

An obvious one I forgot for California was both ends of CA 146.  Both sides end at Pinnacles National Park and have no outlet nor connection aside foot trails.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: Takumi on July 23, 2020, 07:38:55 PM
VA 14, 354, and quite a few state facility routes.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: formulanone on July 23, 2020, 08:18:46 PM
LA 56 at Cocodrie

TX 87 was partially washed away years ago, southwest of Port Arthur.

TX 165 (if the gates are closed) at the Texas State Cemetery.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: SectorZ on July 23, 2020, 08:18:57 PM
Along with some Maine routes already posted, ME 4 in Rangeley dead-ends at a lake pier.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: ilpt4u on July 23, 2020, 08:56:53 PM
KY looks like it has some that end at marinas on Kentucky Lake
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: Bickendan on July 23, 2020, 09:48:54 PM
OR 46 terminates at the Oregon Caves -- may not count, as that is the destination itself.
OR 351 dead ends just south of the Lake Wallowa recreation area.
OR 413 makes it to Cornucopia and stops... but it's unclear if it's signed.
WA 501's lower branch and its spur (Spur 501) both dead end.
WA 504 terminates at Johnston Observatory on Loowit -- may not count, as that's the destination.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: paulthemapguy on July 23, 2020, 10:58:25 PM
Michigan 37 dead ends on the Old Mission Peninusla in Grand Traverse County.  Michigan 116 dead ends at Ludington State Park.  Michigan 154 dead ends at the southern tip of Harsens Island in Lake St. Clair.
Lots of Missouri State Routes dead end at state parks, and plenty of Minnesota State Routes dead end at state facilities.  Utah has state routes that do one or the other.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: Rothman on July 23, 2020, 11:00:32 PM
NY 431 dead ends at Whiteface Mountain's summit.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: Big John on July 23, 2020, 11:12:40 PM
WA 542 at Mt. Baker
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: Revive 755 on July 23, 2020, 11:13:03 PM
I think we had this thread already but anyway:

Illinois
* IL 138 (https://goo.gl/maps/b4RWj6oT29iFYMBE9)

Missouri
* Very frequently with the lettered routes.
* Common with numbered routes that go into state parks such as MO 119, MO 144, and MO 147
* Also a few cases where the road into a city has been turned over, such as MO 231, MO 267, and MO 340 around St. Louis.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: Finrod on July 23, 2020, 11:24:52 PM
Colorado State Highway 5 ends at the top of Mt. Evans, and is the highest paved road in North America at the summit.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: briantroutman on July 24, 2020, 12:00:36 AM
PA 660 dead-ends at a parking area for Leonard Harrison State Park. Google Maps seems to suggest that the parking area is PA 660–and that the route therefore loops back onto itself (which perhaps is debatable as to being a dead end or not), but that doesn't appear to be supported by the corresponding PennDOT straight line diagram (http://www.dot.state.pa.us/public/Bureaus/BOMO/RM/RITS/Annual%20Electronic%20SLDs%20by%20County/District%203/Tioga%20Without%20Pipes.pdf) (bottom of page 130).

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50145969698_59c9e3ec42_o.png)

Of the top of my head, I'm not aware of any other signed Pennsylvania state traffic routes (i.e. those signed with a keystone shield) that dead-end. If there's another, I'd be interested in knowing about it.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: WNYroadgeek on July 24, 2020, 12:11:20 AM
If cul-de-sacs count, then you can add NY 14's northern terminus: https://goo.gl/maps/WQHefMTdF6Zmp1SU8
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: xonhulu on July 24, 2020, 12:41:57 AM
Quote from: Bickendan on July 23, 2020, 09:48:54 PM
OR 46 terminates at the Oregon Caves -- may not count, as that is the destination itself.
OR 351 dead ends just south of the Lake Wallowa recreation area.
OR 413 makes it to Cornucopia and stops... but it's unclear if it's signed.
WA 501's lower branch and its spur (Spur 501) both dead end.
WA 504 terminates at Johnston Observatory on Loowit -- may not count, as that's the destination.

As of 2018, the last time I was on these highways, neither of OR 351 or OR 413 were signed.

Some more from Oregon:
OR 540 dead-ends at either the entrance to Sunset Bay State Park or the parking lot of Cape Arago State Park (I'm not sure where the designation actually stops).
OR 250 (unsigned) dead-ends at Cape Blanco State Park
OR 251 (unsigned) dead-ends at the parking lot for Port Orford Heads State Park

OR 182 (never signed) dead-ended at the end of Otter Rock, but I'm not sure the route still exists: ODOT relinquished the hwy to Lincoln County a few years back.

In Washington:
WA 103 dead-ends at Leadbetter Point State Park.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: NWI_Irish96 on July 24, 2020, 08:13:50 AM
Indiana:

IN 111 and IN 166 dead end at the Ohio River. Several other state highways end at entrances to places like military facilities, state parks, state home/hospitals, quarries, where the road continues as a restricted-access road.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: GaryV on July 24, 2020, 08:49:35 AM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on July 23, 2020, 10:58:25 PM
Michigan 37 dead ends on the Old Mission Peninusla in Grand Traverse County. 

Until it gets truncated, as MDOT proposed.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: thspfc on July 24, 2020, 09:26:57 AM
Not sure if mentioned yet, but US-41 and M-26 dead-end at Copper Harbor, and US-45 dead-ends in Ontonagon (though if it were me, I would route US-45 up to Houghton on M-26).
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: Max Rockatansky on July 24, 2020, 09:48:17 AM
Quote from: thspfc on July 24, 2020, 09:26:57 AM
Not sure if mentioned yet, but US-41 and M-26 dead-end at Copper Harbor, and US-45 dead-ends in Ontonagon (though if it were me, I would route US-45 up to Houghton on M-26).

Actually M-26 ends in Copper Harbor but US 41 keeps going and ends at a roundabout near Mud Lake. 
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: Mapmikey on July 24, 2020, 10:27:39 AM
A few more Virginia examples that are not state-facility routes:
US 60 (Rudee inlet)
VA 171 (boat landing)
VA 173 (boat landing)
VA 180 (boat landing)
VA 204 (Nat'l Mon)
VA 205Y (Potomac River)
VA 222 (Rappahannock River)

If Military Facilities count then also VA 105, VA 206, VA 238 and VA 278.

VA 92 has a similar situation with VA 125 on one side of the old bridge

North Carolina:
US 74 (but technically not US 76)
US 117 (Port of Wilm)
US 421 (Ft Fisher)
NC 9
NC 58
NC 128
NC 136
NC 307
NC 344
NC 461

South Carolina:
SC 260
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: 1995hoo on July 24, 2020, 10:34:54 AM
Several in Hawaii. On Kauai, HI-560 and HI-550 dead-end at Ke'e Beach and the Pu'u O Kila Lookout, respectively, and HI-583 dead-ends at Wailua Falls. I know there are some on the other islands, too.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: GaryV on July 24, 2020, 12:32:25 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on July 24, 2020, 09:48:17 AM
Quote from: thspfc on July 24, 2020, 09:26:57 AM
Not sure if mentioned yet, but US-41 and M-26 dead-end at Copper Harbor, and US-45 dead-ends in Ontonagon (though if it were me, I would route US-45 up to Houghton on M-26).

Actually M-26 ends in Copper Harbor but US 41 keeps going and ends at a roundabout near Mud Lake.

Depends on what you mean by "dead ends".  There is a dirt road (Mandan Rd) going out of the turnaround at the end of US-41 - that road loops around back to US-41 on the other side of Copper Harbor.

And US-45 ends at an intersection with a local street in Ontonagon.  That street used to be M-64 until the new bridge was built a bit upstream.  But it's still an intersection, not a cul de sac.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on July 24, 2020, 01:29:46 PM
There's also MN 172, which was formerly MN 72 until that route got realigned onto a border crossing.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: Hot Rod Hootenanny on July 24, 2020, 08:05:01 PM
Quote from: briantroutman on July 24, 2020, 12:00:36 AM
PA 660 dead-ends at a parking area for Leonard Harrison State Park. Google Maps seems to suggest that the parking area is PA 660–and that the route therefore loops back onto itself (which perhaps is debatable as to being a dead end or not), but that doesn't appear to be supported by the corresponding PennDOT straight line diagram (http://www.dot.state.pa.us/public/Bureaus/BOMO/RM/RITS/Annual%20Electronic%20SLDs%20by%20County/District%203/Tioga%20Without%20Pipes.pdf) (bottom of page 130).

Having visited Leonard Harrison state park, last fall, coming back from the Newburyport meet, I can tell you that it is a hard no on PA 660 getting signed at the park entrance. In fact the 'End' sign for 660 is about 1/2 mile down the road from said park entrance.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: oscar on July 24, 2020, 08:28:53 PM
On Hawaii's Big Island, HI 130 ends in Kalapana, where volcano goddess Madame Pele rudely truncated the route (http://www.hawaiihighways.com/photos-Lava-Closures-page2.htm). However, there is a restricted-access unpaved road within the old ROW, for the remaining local residents and occasional lava viewing opportunities, and also to connect to a recently-built one-lane road reserved for emergency evacuations.

Maui's HI 360 dead-ends at the Hana Bay wharf. The turn down to the wharf was unmarked last I was there, confusing tourists trying to clinch the route.

On Oahu, HI 93 and HI 930 both end near Kaena Point. Motorists once could drive around the point between those present-day routes. Unpaved remnants of the old roads still approach the point, but landslides and a stone wall block motorists from the nature preserve at the point.

There are many others in Hawaii, and also Alaska.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: CardInLex on July 24, 2020, 08:51:14 PM
Quote from: ilpt4u on July 23, 2020, 08:56:53 PM
KY looks like it has some that end at marinas on Kentucky Lake

Not sure if it would count or not... KY 39 dead ends (twice) on either side of the Kentucky River in Jessamine/Garrard Counties.
https://goo.gl/maps/o9anYLT2LdKQ9bRD8

KY 595 dead ends at Poosey Ridge in Madison County.
https://goo.gl/maps/6bAHiX4Uh52zwPuG9
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: froggie on July 24, 2020, 10:50:52 PM
No examples that I can think of in either Vermont or New Hampshire.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: Flint1979 on July 24, 2020, 10:59:11 PM
Quote from: thspfc on July 24, 2020, 09:26:57 AM
Not sure if mentioned yet, but US-41 and M-26 dead-end at Copper Harbor, and US-45 dead-ends in Ontonagon (though if it were me, I would route US-45 up to Houghton on M-26).
M-26 ends at US-41 and US-41 continues on to the dead end without M-26.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: Flint1979 on July 24, 2020, 11:08:51 PM
Quote from: GaryV on July 24, 2020, 12:32:25 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on July 24, 2020, 09:48:17 AM
Quote from: thspfc on July 24, 2020, 09:26:57 AM
Not sure if mentioned yet, but US-41 and M-26 dead-end at Copper Harbor, and US-45 dead-ends in Ontonagon (though if it were me, I would route US-45 up to Houghton on M-26).

Actually M-26 ends in Copper Harbor but US 41 keeps going and ends at a roundabout near Mud Lake.

Depends on what you mean by "dead ends".  There is a dirt road (Mandan Rd) going out of the turnaround at the end of US-41 - that road loops around back to US-41 on the other side of Copper Harbor.

And US-45 ends at an intersection with a local street in Ontonagon.  That street used to be M-64 until the new bridge was built a bit upstream.  But it's still an intersection, not a cul de sac.
Well there is a dead end sign and where US-41 ends there is a Road Ends sign with a red diamond on it so I'm assuming that's where the road dead ends. After that it's basically just an ATV trail with lots of potholes and ruts.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: CNGL-Leudimin on July 25, 2020, 04:29:05 AM
Technically not state routes (since Spain is not dividied into states but communities), but here's a list of regional roads of Aragon that dead-end:
- A-135
- A-139 (the only true dead end, all others end at parking lots)
- A-2520 (technically, an unpaved road continues beyond the parking lot)
- A-2606
- A-2617

This means from this roundabout (https://www.google.es/maps/@42.6176395,0.5353599,3a,75y,44.15h,87.87t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRYiUwsmfsYnTBAZo18qWTA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) one is going to hit a dead end no matter which direction chooses (unless of course one turns back).

During the time France closed their borders due to that virus, A-136 and A-138 also technically dead-ended. N-330a, the old Somport pass road, at least has a turnoff back into Spain right at the border. The only border crossing open to trucks was the Somport tunnel.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: dgolub on July 25, 2020, 08:54:08 AM
NY 25 and NY 27 here on Long Island.  The former is a proper dead end where you run out of land at Orient Point.  The latter has a circle at the end where the eastbound lane loops around and becomes the westbound lane at Montauk Point State Park.  Also, MD 272 has a dead end in Elk Neck State Park.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: thspfc on July 25, 2020, 09:05:32 AM
Quote from: Flint1979 on July 24, 2020, 11:08:51 PM
Quote from: GaryV on July 24, 2020, 12:32:25 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on July 24, 2020, 09:48:17 AM
Quote from: thspfc on July 24, 2020, 09:26:57 AM
Not sure if mentioned yet, but US-41 and M-26 dead-end at Copper Harbor, and US-45 dead-ends in Ontonagon (though if it were me, I would route US-45 up to Houghton on M-26).

Actually M-26 ends in Copper Harbor but US 41 keeps going and ends at a roundabout near Mud Lake.

Depends on what you mean by "dead ends".  There is a dirt road (Mandan Rd) going out of the turnaround at the end of US-41 - that road loops around back to US-41 on the other side of Copper Harbor.

And US-45 ends at an intersection with a local street in Ontonagon.  That street used to be M-64 until the new bridge was built a bit upstream.  But it's still an intersection, not a cul de sac.
Well there is a dead end sign and where US-41 ends there is a Road Ends sign with a red diamond on it so I'm assuming that's where the road dead ends. After that it's basically just an ATV trail with lots of potholes and ruts.
My bad, I must have misinterpreted the question. I was thinking about state-level routes that do not end at other state-level routes (i.e. US-45 ending at a neighborhood street in Ontonagon).
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: Flint1979 on July 25, 2020, 10:28:45 AM
Quote from: thspfc on July 25, 2020, 09:05:32 AM
Quote from: Flint1979 on July 24, 2020, 11:08:51 PM
Quote from: GaryV on July 24, 2020, 12:32:25 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on July 24, 2020, 09:48:17 AM
Quote from: thspfc on July 24, 2020, 09:26:57 AM
Not sure if mentioned yet, but US-41 and M-26 dead-end at Copper Harbor, and US-45 dead-ends in Ontonagon (though if it were me, I would route US-45 up to Houghton on M-26).

Actually M-26 ends in Copper Harbor but US 41 keeps going and ends at a roundabout near Mud Lake.

Depends on what you mean by "dead ends".  There is a dirt road (Mandan Rd) going out of the turnaround at the end of US-41 - that road loops around back to US-41 on the other side of Copper Harbor.

And US-45 ends at an intersection with a local street in Ontonagon.  That street used to be M-64 until the new bridge was built a bit upstream.  But it's still an intersection, not a cul de sac.
Well there is a dead end sign and where US-41 ends there is a Road Ends sign with a red diamond on it so I'm assuming that's where the road dead ends. After that it's basically just an ATV trail with lots of potholes and ruts.
My bad, I must have misinterpreted the question. I was thinking about state-level routes that do not end at other state-level routes (i.e. US-45 ending at a neighborhood street in Ontonagon).
The Dead End sign is just after the campground entrance to Fort Wilkins State Park and there is a 55 mph speed limit sign there too. The Road Ends sign with the red diamond is at the entrance to Mandon Road where it turns to dirt.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: roadman65 on July 25, 2020, 10:35:07 AM
FL 320 in Levy County is 6 miles long and ends at the entrance to Manatee Springs State Park.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: Flint1979 on July 25, 2020, 11:00:13 AM
US-45 doesn't exactly dead end. The street that US-45 ends on dead ends but US-45 ends about 1 or 2 blocks before that so you could call it a dead end I guess. I don't know why it doesn't end at it's intersection with M-38 and M-64.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: kphoger on July 25, 2020, 11:48:06 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on July 25, 2020, 10:35:07 AM
FL 320 in Levy County is 6 miles long and ends at the entrance to Manatee Springs State Park.

But the road keeps going, doesn't it?
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: Max Rockatansky on July 25, 2020, 12:15:07 PM
Quote from: kphoger on July 25, 2020, 11:48:06 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on July 25, 2020, 10:35:07 AM
FL 320 in Levy County is 6 miles long and ends at the entrance to Manatee Springs State Park.

But the road keeps going, doesn't it?

Florida interestingly doesn't have as many examples as it might seem on the surface.  A lot of Old State Roads which did once have no outlet were turned back over to the counties.  FL 679 would be an example of one that still ends but the continuing road has no outlet (Mullet Key).
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: wanderer2575 on July 25, 2020, 12:19:33 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on July 24, 2020, 11:08:51 PM
Quote from: GaryV on July 24, 2020, 12:32:25 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on July 24, 2020, 09:48:17 AM
Quote from: thspfc on July 24, 2020, 09:26:57 AM
Not sure if mentioned yet, but US-41 and M-26 dead-end at Copper Harbor, and US-45 dead-ends in Ontonagon (though if it were me, I would route US-45 up to Houghton on M-26).

Actually M-26 ends in Copper Harbor but US 41 keeps going and ends at a roundabout near Mud Lake.

Depends on what you mean by "dead ends".  There is a dirt road (Mandan Rd) going out of the turnaround at the end of US-41 - that road loops around back to US-41 on the other side of Copper Harbor.

And US-45 ends at an intersection with a local street in Ontonagon.  That street used to be M-64 until the new bridge was built a bit upstream.  But it's still an intersection, not a cul de sac.
Well there is a dead end sign and where US-41 ends there is a Road Ends sign with a red diamond on it so I'm assuming that's where the road dead ends. After that it's basically just an ATV trail with lots of potholes and ruts.

The marker in the cul-de-sac at US-41's northern terminus.  Mandan Road is to the left in the background, but as Flint1979 noted it's really not passable for most vehicles.

(https://i.imgur.com/J6gFiCm.jpg)
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: Max Rockatansky on July 25, 2020, 12:32:48 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on July 25, 2020, 12:19:33 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on July 24, 2020, 11:08:51 PM
Quote from: GaryV on July 24, 2020, 12:32:25 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on July 24, 2020, 09:48:17 AM
Quote from: thspfc on July 24, 2020, 09:26:57 AM
Not sure if mentioned yet, but US-41 and M-26 dead-end at Copper Harbor, and US-45 dead-ends in Ontonagon (though if it were me, I would route US-45 up to Houghton on M-26).

Actually M-26 ends in Copper Harbor but US 41 keeps going and ends at a roundabout near Mud Lake.

Depends on what you mean by "dead ends".  There is a dirt road (Mandan Rd) going out of the turnaround at the end of US-41 - that road loops around back to US-41 on the other side of Copper Harbor.

And US-45 ends at an intersection with a local street in Ontonagon.  That street used to be M-64 until the new bridge was built a bit upstream.  But it's still an intersection, not a cul de sac.
Well there is a dead end sign and where US-41 ends there is a Road Ends sign with a red diamond on it so I'm assuming that's where the road dead ends. After that it's basically just an ATV trail with lots of potholes and ruts.

The marker in the cul-de-sac at US-41's northern terminus.  Mandan Road is to the left in the background, but as Flint1979 noted it's really not passable for most vehicles.

(https://i.imgur.com/J6gFiCm.jpg)

Either way Mandan Road doesn't have an outlet. 
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: zzcarp on July 25, 2020, 12:40:43 PM
Colorado Highway 150 dead ends at a campground at the Sand Dunes National Park. There is a 4WD road that diverges just before the terminus that goes up over Medano Pass.

An honorable mention goes to CO 170 where State maintenance ends at Eldorado Springs but the road continues outside of the town as dirt and dead-ends about 3 miles later in Eldorado Canyon State Park.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: Max Rockatansky on July 25, 2020, 12:43:38 PM
Quote from: zzcarp on July 25, 2020, 12:40:43 PM
Colorado Highway 150 dead ends at a campground at the Sand Dunes National Park. There is a 4WD road that diverges just before the terminus that goes up over Medano Pass.

An honorable mention goes to CO 170 where State maintenance ends at Eldorado Springs but the road continues outside of the town as dirt and dead-ends about 3 miles later in Eldorado Canyon State Park.

Interestingly CO 150 used to be a through highway via Mosca Pass.  The road still exists but has eroded down to a trail:

https://www.gribblenation.org/2020/04/2016-summer-mountain-trip-part-24.html?m=1
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: ozarkman417 on July 25, 2020, 12:50:56 PM
AR 7 ends at a recreation area on a bend of the White River. AR 155 dead ends on top of Mount Nebo. MO 744 dead ends at the old SGF terminal.

All these routes have loops where turning around is possible, but those loops are not part of the highway itself.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: mgk920 on July 25, 2020, 01:03:00 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on July 24, 2020, 09:48:17 AM
Quote from: thspfc on July 24, 2020, 09:26:57 AM
Not sure if mentioned yet, but US-41 and M-26 dead-end at Copper Harbor, and US-45 dead-ends in Ontonagon (though if it were me, I would route US-45 up to Houghton on M-26).

Actually M-26 ends in Copper Harbor but US 41 keeps going and ends at a roundabout near Mud Lake.

But a driveable road continues beyond that end.

Can I also assume that this criterion does not include ferry terminals?

Mike
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: Max Rockatansky on July 25, 2020, 01:26:37 PM
Quote from: mgk920 on July 25, 2020, 01:03:00 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on July 24, 2020, 09:48:17 AM
Quote from: thspfc on July 24, 2020, 09:26:57 AM
Not sure if mentioned yet, but US-41 and M-26 dead-end at Copper Harbor, and US-45 dead-ends in Ontonagon (though if it were me, I would route US-45 up to Houghton on M-26).

Actually M-26 ends in Copper Harbor but US 41 keeps going and ends at a roundabout near Mud Lake.

But a driveable road continues beyond that end.

Can I also assume that this criterion does not include ferry terminals?

Mike

Regarding ferry terminals I don't think that was addressed by the OP.  My understanding was that the criteria was highways that end and don't have an outlet ahead. 
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: Flint1979 on July 25, 2020, 01:35:50 PM


Quote from: Max Rockatansky on July 25, 2020, 12:32:48 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on July 25, 2020, 12:19:33 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on July 24, 2020, 11:08:51 PM
Quote from: GaryV on July 24, 2020, 12:32:25 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on July 24, 2020, 09:48:17 AM
Quote from: thspfc on July 24, 2020, 09:26:57 AM
Not sure if mentioned yet, but US-41 and M-26 dead-end at Copper Harbor, and US-45 dead-ends in Ontonagon (though if it were me, I would route US-45 up to Houghton on M-26).

Actually M-26 ends in Copper Harbor but US 41 keeps going and ends at a roundabout near Mud Lake.

Depends on what you mean by "dead ends".  There is a dirt road (Mandan Rd) going out of the turnaround at the end of US-41 - that road loops around back to US-41 on the other side of Copper Harbor.

And US-45 ends at an intersection with a local street in Ontonagon.  That street used to be M-64 until the new bridge was built a bit upstream.  But it's still an intersection, not a cul de sac.
Well there is a dead end sign and where US-41 ends there is a Road Ends sign with a red diamond on it so I'm assuming that's where the road dead ends. After that it's basically just an ATV trail with lots of potholes and ruts.

The marker in the cul-de-sac at US-41's northern terminus.  Mandan Road is to the left in the background, but as Flint1979 noted it's really not passable for most vehicles.

(https://i.imgur.com/J6gFiCm.jpg)

Either way Mandan Road doesn't have an outlet.

It loops back to US-41 but isn't passable in some areas and is a dirt road. I wouldn't depend on it to take that loop back to US-41. I would consider it a dangerous road.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: steviep24 on July 25, 2020, 04:18:03 PM
In western NY NY261 and NY272 dead end at Lake Ontario.

NOTE: NY237 and NY98 are truncated at the Lake Ontario State Parkway but both roads continue north to the lake. It's possible these routes may have dead ended at Lake Ontario at one time.

EDIT: Looks like NY261 officially ends at LOSP although Google Maps shows it going beyond that. Street View does show a JCT NY261 sign near the LOSP interchange.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: index on July 25, 2020, 04:20:54 PM
GA SR 177, split in the middle by the Okfenokee Swamp.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: US71 on July 25, 2020, 04:28:25 PM
AR 94 and AR 264 dead end in Beaver Lake

AR 127 ends at Lost Bridge Park
Another section of 127 used to dead end into Beaver Lake, but was rerouted.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: formulanone on July 25, 2020, 05:31:15 PM
AL 62 ends at a gate for the long-closed Monsanto factory near Guntersville.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: GaryV on July 25, 2020, 08:28:54 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on July 25, 2020, 11:00:13 AM
US-45 doesn't exactly dead end. The street that US-45 ends on dead ends but US-45 ends about 1 or 2 blocks before that so you could call it a dead end I guess. I don't know why it doesn't end at it's intersection with M-38 and M-64.

US-45 ends at its old intersection with M-64.  Several years ago the old M-64 bridge was removed and a new high bridge was constructed upstream.  So the end of M-64 was changed at that time (and also M-38 to match it).  But US-45 remained the same.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: BridgesToIdealism on July 25, 2020, 09:24:56 PM
Sorry I haven't been around to monitor the discussion here. In terms of my original intent with the question, my intent was to identify cases of signed state routes that literally terminate at a dead-end; that is, with no outlet and not at the intersection of another road. Routes that dead-end at a body of water do count, as long as the route doesn't continue disjointed on the other side (I saw a couple of posts about routes that were fragmented when bridges were demolished, while that's technically a dead-end, it's not what I had in mind). Same goes for state routes that are fragmented through National Parks - again, technically two dead-ends, but not exactly what I had in mind.

For a perfect example of the type of situation that I initially had in mind, look at Louisiana State Highway 300 as it terminates at a dead-end in Delacroix, LA. This was the first highway that led me to start this thread.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: Hot Rod Hootenanny on July 25, 2020, 10:43:26 PM
In Ohio, I've located OH 44 & OH 53 dead ending into Lake Erie. OH 357 dead ends into Lake Erie on both of its ends (because it is on South Bass Island), and OH 247 dead ends into the Ohio River, south of US 52.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: roadman65 on July 25, 2020, 11:03:03 PM
Quote from: kphoger on July 25, 2020, 11:48:06 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on July 25, 2020, 10:35:07 AM
FL 320 in Levy County is 6 miles long and ends at the entrance to Manatee Springs State Park.

But the road keeps going, doesn't it?

It does as a Park Road with no other outlet.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: roadman65 on July 25, 2020, 11:05:17 PM
NY 27 would sure count at Montauk Point. However I assume NY 25 does not as the Cross Sound Ferry connects to New London, CT taking autos there.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: Flint1979 on July 25, 2020, 11:10:36 PM
Quote from: GaryV on July 25, 2020, 08:28:54 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on July 25, 2020, 11:00:13 AM
US-45 doesn't exactly dead end. The street that US-45 ends on dead ends but US-45 ends about 1 or 2 blocks before that so you could call it a dead end I guess. I don't know why it doesn't end at it's intersection with M-38 and M-64.

US-45 ends at its old intersection with M-64.  Several years ago the old M-64 bridge was removed and a new high bridge was constructed upstream.  So the end of M-64 was changed at that time (and also M-38 to match it).  But US-45 remained the same.
Yeah you can clearly see where the old alignment of M-64 was on Google Maps. I don't think Ontonagon Street even exists on the west side of the river anymore that's a parking lot. They should have scaled US-45 back to the M-64/M-38 interchange when they made that change.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: mgk920 on July 26, 2020, 01:26:17 AM
Quote from: Flint1979 on July 25, 2020, 01:35:50 PM


Quote from: Max Rockatansky on July 25, 2020, 12:32:48 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on July 25, 2020, 12:19:33 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on July 24, 2020, 11:08:51 PM
Quote from: GaryV on July 24, 2020, 12:32:25 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on July 24, 2020, 09:48:17 AM
Quote from: thspfc on July 24, 2020, 09:26:57 AM
Not sure if mentioned yet, but US-41 and M-26 dead-end at Copper Harbor, and US-45 dead-ends in Ontonagon (though if it were me, I would route US-45 up to Houghton on M-26).

Actually M-26 ends in Copper Harbor but US 41 keeps going and ends at a roundabout near Mud Lake.

Depends on what you mean by "dead ends".  There is a dirt road (Mandan Rd) going out of the turnaround at the end of US-41 - that road loops around back to US-41 on the other side of Copper Harbor.

And US-45 ends at an intersection with a local street in Ontonagon.  That street used to be M-64 until the new bridge was built a bit upstream.  But it's still an intersection, not a cul de sac.
Well there is a dead end sign and where US-41 ends there is a Road Ends sign with a red diamond on it so I'm assuming that's where the road dead ends. After that it's basically just an ATV trail with lots of potholes and ruts.

The marker in the cul-de-sac at US-41's northern terminus.  Mandan Road is to the left in the background, but as Flint1979 noted it's really not passable for most vehicles.

(https://i.imgur.com/J6gFiCm.jpg)

Either way Mandan Road doesn't have an outlet.

It loops back to US-41 but isn't passable in some areas and is a dirt road. I wouldn't depend on it to take that loop back to US-41. I would consider it a dangerous road.

A bit off-topic, but that is also near the point on the 'lower 48' USA's road network that is the most remote, measured in driving distance, from the nearest interstate highway access interchange.

:spin:

Mike
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: Flint1979 on July 26, 2020, 10:10:31 AM
Quote from: mgk920 on July 26, 2020, 01:26:17 AM
Quote from: Flint1979 on July 25, 2020, 01:35:50 PM


Quote from: Max Rockatansky on July 25, 2020, 12:32:48 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on July 25, 2020, 12:19:33 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on July 24, 2020, 11:08:51 PM
Quote from: GaryV on July 24, 2020, 12:32:25 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on July 24, 2020, 09:48:17 AM
Quote from: thspfc on July 24, 2020, 09:26:57 AM
Not sure if mentioned yet, but US-41 and M-26 dead-end at Copper Harbor, and US-45 dead-ends in Ontonagon (though if it were me, I would route US-45 up to Houghton on M-26).

Actually M-26 ends in Copper Harbor but US 41 keeps going and ends at a roundabout near Mud Lake.

Depends on what you mean by "dead ends".  There is a dirt road (Mandan Rd) going out of the turnaround at the end of US-41 - that road loops around back to US-41 on the other side of Copper Harbor.

And US-45 ends at an intersection with a local street in Ontonagon.  That street used to be M-64 until the new bridge was built a bit upstream.  But it's still an intersection, not a cul de sac.
Well there is a dead end sign and where US-41 ends there is a Road Ends sign with a red diamond on it so I'm assuming that's where the road dead ends. After that it's basically just an ATV trail with lots of potholes and ruts.

The marker in the cul-de-sac at US-41's northern terminus.  Mandan Road is to the left in the background, but as Flint1979 noted it's really not passable for most vehicles.

(https://i.imgur.com/J6gFiCm.jpg)

Either way Mandan Road doesn't have an outlet.

It loops back to US-41 but isn't passable in some areas and is a dirt road. I wouldn't depend on it to take that loop back to US-41. I would consider it a dangerous road.

A bit off-topic, but that is also near the point on the 'lower 48' USA's road network that is the most remote, measured in driving distance, from the nearest interstate highway access interchange.

:spin:

Mike
Yes that is true I actually knew that piece of information.
The closest Interstate to Copper Harbor is I-39 at about 230 miles away.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: debragga on July 26, 2020, 11:27:57 AM
Quote from: BridgesToIdealism on July 23, 2020, 06:43:34 PM
It seems that having signed state routes that have at least one terminus at a dead-end are somewhat common in Louisiana, especially down towards the Delta. However, I was wondering if anyone else knows of any other locations where this occurs in quantity? To clarify, I'm only talking about actively signed routes and current alignments (i.e. old alignments that have been bypassed but left in place in sections don't count). Some of the ones that I have thought of are below.

Louisiana

* LA-300 (dead-end at Delacroix)
* LA-46 (dead-end at Shell Beach)
* LA-624 (dead-end Hopedale Marina)
* LA-23 (dead-end at Venice)
* LA-39 (dead-end just south of the Pointe a la Hache ferry)
* LA-3257 (dead-end across the bayou from Lafitte)
* LA-1 (dead-end at Grand Isle)

Florida

* FL-404/Pineda Causeway (dead-end just west of I-95, although plans for extension)
* FL-9336 (dead-end at Everglades National Park)

South Carolina

* SC-700 (dead-end at Rockville)

LA-23 isn't a dead-end. It ends at a T-intersection with Jump Basin Rd.
LA-39 similarly ends at a T-intersection with Hwy 15 (old Highway 15?).
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: Mapmikey on July 26, 2020, 12:55:16 PM
VA 298 also has dead end conclusion...
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: Thing 342 on July 26, 2020, 01:34:56 PM
I would say that VA33 also dead-ends, given that the streets at its end are privately-maintained and say NO ENTRANCE.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: epzik8 on July 26, 2020, 01:56:47 PM
There is a good number in Maryland with their unconventional system. MD 159 in Perryman stops at the Bush River, parallel to Amtrak and MARC's right of way. MD 177 ends at Gibson Island in Anne Arundel County. MD 272 stops at Elk Neck State Park in Cecil County. MD 24 in Edgewood in Harford County is a technicality because it ends at the Aberdeen Proving Ground gate, and you can't proceed without credentials. However, the road continues. Then there's MD 176, which ends at a point prior to a cul-de-sac in Anne Arundel County. It used to go out to US 1 in Elkridge in Howard County, but the construction of the MD 100 freeway during the 1990s split Dorsey Road in half. MD 100 replaced MD 176 in this area at the Baltimore-Washington Parkway interchange in the Hanover area. Today, the other half of Dorsey Road in part of MD 103.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: GaryA on July 27, 2020, 11:46:38 AM
CA 202 ends at the gate of a state prison, which may or may not match the OP's intent.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: Max Rockatansky on July 27, 2020, 11:59:15 AM
Quote from: GaryA on July 27, 2020, 11:46:38 AM
CA 202 ends at the gate of a state prison, which may or may not match the OP's intent.

But there is an outlet.  CA 222, CA 77, CA 153, CA 193, CA 275, CA 283, CA 211, CA 3, CA 151, CA 284, CA 270, CA 130, CA 198, and CA 191 similarly end but have outlet roads (good luck with CA 270 and Bodie Road towards Aurora).  One that I forgot about is CA 180 ending in Cedar Grove of Kings Canyon National Park, there is no outlet road.  Interestingly CA 180 was planned to cross the Sierra Nevada Mountains via Kearsarge Pass to Onion Valley Road.  Similarly CA 168's western segment ends at Camp Sabrina in what was the planned Piute Pass Highway.  CA 203 was part of the briefly studied Minaret Summit Highway.  In the case of CA 203 it ends just before the Mammoth Ski Area and thus has no outlet west towards Devil's Postpile.  Some highways like CA 178 and CA 190 end suddenly at segments that will never be built but have roads that provide an outlet. 
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: oscar on July 27, 2020, 12:31:10 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on July 27, 2020, 11:59:15 AM
In the case of CA 203 it ends just before the Mammoth Ski Area and thus has no outlet west towards Devil's Postpile.

Legislatively, and confirmed by Caltrans' Postmile Query Tool, CA 203 ends west of the ski area, at the county line, where the pavement continues to Devil's Postpile. Travel past the ski area is usually blocked by snow in the winter, and may be mostly limited to shuttle buses in the summer, though I was able to drive to the county line in the off-season. There are some unpaved roads branching from CA 203 right around the county line, which may further complicate whether you want to call it a "dead end".
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: Max Rockatansky on July 27, 2020, 12:42:21 PM
Quote from: oscar on July 27, 2020, 12:31:10 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on July 27, 2020, 11:59:15 AM
In the case of CA 203 it ends just before the Mammoth Ski Area and thus has no outlet west towards Devil's Postpile.

Legislatively, and confirmed by Caltrans' Postmile Query Tool, CA 203 ends west of the ski area, at the county line, where the pavement continues to Devil's Postpile. Travel past the ski area is usually blocked by snow in the winter, and may be mostly limited to shuttle buses in the summer, though I was able to drive to the county line in the off-season. There are some unpaved roads branching from CA 203 right around the county line, which may further complicate whether you want to call it a "dead end".

There definitely isn't anything that will get you anywhere other than a turnaround back to the ski area and Minaret Summit, the further road ends at the Middle Fork San Joaquin River.  It's surprisingly close as the bird flys to Forest Route 81 in Sierra National Forest. 
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: Life in Paradise on July 27, 2020, 01:02:14 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on July 24, 2020, 08:13:50 AM
Indiana:

IN 111 and IN 166 dead end at the Ohio River. Several other state highways end at entrances to places like military facilities, state parks, state home/hospitals, quarries, where the road continues as a restricted-access road.
There is also IN 69 that ends at the Hovey Wetlands near the Ohio River.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: NWI_Irish96 on July 27, 2020, 01:11:11 PM
Quote from: Life in Paradise on July 27, 2020, 01:02:14 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on July 24, 2020, 08:13:50 AM
Indiana:

IN 111 and IN 166 dead end at the Ohio River. Several other state highways end at entrances to places like military facilities, state parks, state home/hospitals, quarries, where the road continues as a restricted-access road.
There is also IN 69 that ends at the Hovey Wetlands near the Ohio River.


The IN 69 designation ends well before the dead-end at the river, with other connecting roads in between.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: Flint1979 on July 27, 2020, 06:16:22 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on July 27, 2020, 01:11:11 PM
Quote from: Life in Paradise on July 27, 2020, 01:02:14 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on July 24, 2020, 08:13:50 AM
Indiana:

IN 111 and IN 166 dead end at the Ohio River. Several other state highways end at entrances to places like military facilities, state parks, state home/hospitals, quarries, where the road continues as a restricted-access road.
There is also IN 69 that ends at the Hovey Wetlands near the Ohio River.


The IN 69 designation ends well before the dead-end at the river, with other connecting roads in between.
Speaking of IN-69 what's with the strange curve it takes north of Mount Vernon? Does that have something to do with Indiana's stupid setup of not having state roads in cities?
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: Life in Paradise on July 28, 2020, 01:39:08 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on July 27, 2020, 06:16:22 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on July 27, 2020, 01:11:11 PM
Quote from: Life in Paradise on July 27, 2020, 01:02:14 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on July 24, 2020, 08:13:50 AM
Indiana:

IN 111 and IN 166 dead end at the Ohio River. Several other state highways end at entrances to places like military facilities, state parks, state home/hospitals, quarries, where the road continues as a restricted-access road.
There is also IN 69 that ends at the Hovey Wetlands near the Ohio River.


The IN 69 designation ends well before the dead-end at the river, with other connecting roads in between.
Speaking of IN-69 what's with the strange curve it takes north of Mount Vernon? Does that have something to do with Indiana's stupid setup of not having state roads in cities?
I just remembered the IN-69 designation ended at a parking lot for Hovey.   There was a county road or two that also went into the lot.  Last time I was down that far was either in the late 80s when I worked in Mt. Vernon, or early 90s.

The weird curve of IN-69 was due to the completion of the eastern portion of the Mt. Vernon bypass.  Since the state put this in, they moved the state highway to the bypass rather than give the road a new state highway number.  IN-69 then twins with IN-62 through Mt. Vernon to hook up to the west portion.  One of the reasons of the bypass was for the truck traffic that goes to the Southwind Maritime Center/Port of Indiana-Mt. Vernon.  It's located on the east side of town, so with the bypass most of the truck traffic was taken off of city streets.  Posey County and the City of Mt. Vernon then said they would take care of the old IN-69 pavement.

Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: jdb1234 on July 28, 2020, 02:01:37 PM
AL 182 has a dead end western terminus in Gulf Shores.
AL 180 used to have a similar end in Orange Beach, but AL 180 was truncated to end at AL 161 instead.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: kphoger on July 28, 2020, 03:11:10 PM
Quote from: zzcarp on July 25, 2020, 12:40:43 PM
Colorado Highway 150 dead ends at a campground at the Sand Dunes National Park. There is a 4WD road that diverges just before the terminus that goes up over Medano Pass.

I don't think that's correct.  Does C-150 end at the national park boundary?  The road keeps going, but it's no longer C-150.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: Max Rockatansky on July 28, 2020, 03:21:14 PM
Quote from: kphoger on July 28, 2020, 03:11:10 PM
Quote from: zzcarp on July 25, 2020, 12:40:43 PM
Colorado Highway 150 dead ends at a campground at the Sand Dunes National Park. There is a 4WD road that diverges just before the terminus that goes up over Medano Pass.

I don't think that's correct.  Does C-150 end at the national park boundary?  The road keeps going, but it's no longer C-150.

It ends at the Park Boundary but there is no outlet road.  See my comments above regarding CO 150 and Mosca Pass. 
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: kphoger on July 28, 2020, 03:24:30 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on July 28, 2020, 03:21:14 PM

Quote from: kphoger on July 28, 2020, 03:11:10 PM

Quote from: zzcarp on July 25, 2020, 12:40:43 PM
Colorado Highway 150 dead ends at a campground at the Sand Dunes National Park. There is a 4WD road that diverges just before the terminus that goes up over Medano Pass.

I don't think that's correct.  Does C-150 end at the national park boundary?  The road keeps going, but it's no longer C-150.

It ends at the Park Boundary but there is no outlet road.  See my comments above regarding CO 150 and Mosca Pass. 

Which means it's not a dead end.

Quote from: BridgesToIdealism on July 23, 2020, 06:50:38 PM

Quote from: ilpt4u on July 23, 2020, 06:49:57 PM
What do you mean by dead end? As in the roadway just ends, with no road to turn onto to continue?

Yes

Quote from: BridgesToIdealism on July 25, 2020, 09:24:56 PM
In terms of my original intent with the question, my intent was to identify cases of signed state routes that literally terminate at a dead-end; that is, with no outlet and not at the intersection of another road.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: Mapmikey on July 28, 2020, 03:25:22 PM
Quote from: epzik8 on July 26, 2020, 01:56:47 PM
There is a good number in Maryland with their unconventional system. MD 159 in Perryman stops at the Bush River, parallel to Amtrak and MARC's right of way. MD 177 ends at Gibson Island in Anne Arundel County. MD 272 stops at Elk Neck State Park in Cecil County. MD 24 in Edgewood in Harford County is a technicality because it ends at the Aberdeen Proving Ground gate, and you can't proceed without credentials. However, the road continues. Then there's MD 176, which ends at a point prior to a cul-de-sac in Anne Arundel County. It used to go out to US 1 in Elkridge in Howard County, but the construction of the MD 100 freeway during the 1990s split Dorsey Road in half. MD 100 replaced MD 176 in this area at the Baltimore-Washington Parkway interchange in the Hanover area. Today, the other half of Dorsey Road in part of MD 103.

Also signed in MD with dead ends...
MD 8
MD 18
MD 152 (most of the time)
MD 366
MD 413
MD 485
MD 591
MD 953
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: zzcarp on July 28, 2020, 04:06:31 PM
Quote from: kphoger on July 28, 2020, 03:24:30 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on July 28, 2020, 03:21:14 PM

Quote from: kphoger on July 28, 2020, 03:11:10 PM

Quote from: zzcarp on July 25, 2020, 12:40:43 PM
Colorado Highway 150 dead ends at a campground at the Sand Dunes National Park. There is a 4WD road that diverges just before the terminus that goes up over Medano Pass.

I don't think that's correct.  Does C-150 end at the national park boundary?  The road keeps going, but it's no longer C-150.

It ends at the Park Boundary but there is no outlet road.  See my comments above regarding CO 150 and Mosca Pass. 

Which means it's not a dead end.

Quote from: BridgesToIdealism on July 23, 2020, 06:50:38 PM

Quote from: ilpt4u on July 23, 2020, 06:49:57 PM
What do you mean by dead end? As in the roadway just ends, with no road to turn onto to continue?

Yes

Quote from: BridgesToIdealism on July 25, 2020, 09:24:56 PM
In terms of my original intent with the question, my intent was to identify cases of signed state routes that literally terminate at a dead-end; that is, with no outlet and not at the intersection of another road.

I just checked CDOT's route log and state maintenance does end at the park boundary. Interestingly, it is still showed on the CDOT map in OTIS and on Google maps as CO 150 until the road dead-ends into a campground circle one-way loop (https://www.google.com/maps/place/37%C2%B044'40.9%22N+105%C2%B030'10.6%22W/@37.7446981,-105.5040343,435m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m17!1m10!4m9!1m3!2m2!1d-105.5192284!2d37.7250845!1m3!2m2!1d-105.5035922!2d37.7447637!3e0!3m5!1s0x0:0x0!7e2!8m2!3d37.7446963!4d-105.5029395). There's no pavement surface change to designate the end of the state maintenance, and signage is nonexistent north of LN 6A south of the entrance. It's a case of meeting the requirements a de facto dead end, if not de jure.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: kphoger on July 28, 2020, 04:27:29 PM
Quote from: zzcarp on July 28, 2020, 04:06:31 PM
I just checked CDOT's route log and state maintenance does end at the park boundary. Interestingly, it is still showed on the CDOT map in OTIS and on Google maps as CO 150 until the road dead-ends into a campground circle one-way loop (https://www.google.com/maps/place/37%C2%B044'40.9%22N+105%C2%B030'10.6%22W/@37.7446981,-105.5040343,435m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m17!1m10!4m9!1m3!2m2!1d-105.5192284!2d37.7250845!1m3!2m2!1d-105.5035922!2d37.7447637!3e0!3m5!1s0x0:0x0!7e2!8m2!3d37.7446963!4d-105.5029395). There's no pavement surface change to designate the end of the state maintenance, and signage is nonexistent north of LN 6A south of the entrance. It's a case of meeting the requirements a de facto dead end, if not de jure.

Do you mean LN 6N?  That's where C-150 begins to parallel the park boundary.  The road doesn't actually cross the boundary until immediately after the Oasis Store (just off-camera to the right in the picture below).

(https://i.imgur.com/VyNJE1c.png)
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: zzcarp on July 28, 2020, 04:35:40 PM
Quote from: kphoger on July 28, 2020, 04:27:29 PM
Quote from: zzcarp on July 28, 2020, 04:06:31 PM
I just checked CDOT's route log and state maintenance does end at the park boundary. Interestingly, it is still showed on the CDOT map in OTIS and on Google maps as CO 150 until the road dead-ends into a campground circle one-way loop (https://www.google.com/maps/place/37%C2%B044'40.9%22N+105%C2%B030'10.6%22W/@37.7446981,-105.5040343,435m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m17!1m10!4m9!1m3!2m2!1d-105.5192284!2d37.7250845!1m3!2m2!1d-105.5035922!2d37.7447637!3e0!3m5!1s0x0:0x0!7e2!8m2!3d37.7446963!4d-105.5029395). There's no pavement surface change to designate the end of the state maintenance, and signage is nonexistent north of LN 6A south of the entrance. It's a case of meeting the requirements a de facto dead end, if not de jure.

Do you mean LN 6N?  That's where C-150 begins to parallel the park boundary.  The road doesn't actually cross the boundary until immediately after the Oasis Store (just off-camera to the right in the picture below).

(https://i.imgur.com/VyNJE1c.png)

You win. I didn't remember that sign from my trip there. Good catch.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: cl94 on July 28, 2020, 04:50:48 PM
What I think is an exhaustive list for New York:

- NY 14 at Sodus Bay
- NY 25 at Orient Point
- NY 27 at Montauk Point
- NY 74 at Lake Champlain
- NY 373 at Lake Champlain
- NY 431 at Whiteface Mountain
- If we're including parkways, the Bay Parkway at Jones Beach State Park dies at a cul-de-sac, as does the Prospect Mountain Veterans Memorial Highway

NY 189 is a de-facto dead-end for people on it, as the border crossing is one way SB. With NY 421, the road continues as dirt for a little over a mile and is passable in a normal car before it degrades to logging roads that may or may not have a real outlet. That being said, the former alignment DID have a true dead end. NY 261 officially dies before Lake Ontario. A handful of decommissioned routes dead-ended when they existed.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: webny99 on July 28, 2020, 04:53:55 PM
Quote from: kphoger on July 28, 2020, 03:24:30 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on July 28, 2020, 03:21:14 PM
It ends at the Park Boundary but there is no outlet road.  See my comments above regarding CO 150 and Mosca Pass. 

Which means it's not a dead end.

Quote from: BridgesToIdealism on July 23, 2020, 06:50:38 PM
Quote from: ilpt4u on July 23, 2020, 06:49:57 PM
What do you mean by dead end? As in the roadway just ends, with no road to turn onto to continue?

Yes


If we take dead end literally, the thread itself becomes a dead end.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: Road Hog on July 28, 2020, 04:57:32 PM
In anywhere outside of the Gulf shore or a state-line situation, I am not aware of many Texas state-maintained routes that dead-end. Usually they exist from one route to another route and any truncation takes place outside those bounds.

Municipal turnbacks appear to be the cause of most modern state route terminations deep in the hearta'. The only one close by that leaps to mind is FM 1417 that ends at McKinney city limits after the road was turned over to the city in 2001. Also, FM 1193 in Prosper used to terminate at Business 289 a mile west of the new-location route, but the business route (now Coleman Street) no longer exists, so 1193 terminates at Prosper's former main junction.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: kphoger on July 28, 2020, 04:59:05 PM
Quote from: Road Hog on July 28, 2020, 04:57:32 PM
In anywhere outside of the Gulf shore or a state-line situation, I am not aware of many Texas state-maintained routes that dead-end. Usually they exist from one route to another route and any truncation takes place outside those bounds.

Municipal turnbacks appear to be the cause of most modern state route terminations deep in the hearta'. The only one close by that leaps to mind is FM 1417 that ends at McKinney city limits after the road was turned over to the city in 2001. Also, FM 1193 in Prosper used to terminate at Business 289 a mile west of the new-location route, but the business route (now Coleman Street) no longer exists, so 1193 terminates at Prosper's former main junction.

I've been trying to hunt down an FM route that dead-ends, but to no avail.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: MikieTimT on July 28, 2020, 05:29:25 PM
AR-980.  Pretty much all of them.  Actually other than AR-612, any state highway route above 600.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: jp the roadgeek on July 28, 2020, 06:11:59 PM
Technically it doesn't, but CT 184 in spirit ends at a dead end just beyond the RI border.  The road used to be part of CT/RI 84, and later served as a temporary I-95 until RI finished its portion.  The stub east of CT 216 that connected to RI 3 was dead ended.  Other than that, no other signed state routes in CT that do (just a couple of SSR's that enter state parks such as SSR 450 aka The Hammonasset Connector).  Every state route that approaches the coast loops back around. 

Speaking of RI, RI 108 dead ends at Point Judith.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: kphoger on July 29, 2020, 01:16:00 PM
Quote from: MikieTimT on July 28, 2020, 05:29:25 PM
AR-980.  Pretty much all of them.  Actually other than AR-612, any state highway route above 600.

Lake Wallace, south of Dermott?  I don't think AR-922 terminates at a dead end.

(Also, GSV indicates (https://goo.gl/maps/3p7YY34ugbYMyRgK6) it's actually signed as 722.  What's up with that?)
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: dvferyance on July 30, 2020, 10:48:33 PM
Wisconsin only has one WI-42 ends at the ferry terminal for Washington Island in Door County. It does have some county highways that dead end but there was already a thread for that.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: mgk920 on July 31, 2020, 12:01:14 PM
Quote from: dvferyance on July 30, 2020, 10:48:33 PM
Wisconsin only has one WI-42 ends at the ferry terminal for Washington Island in Door County. It does have some county highways that dead end but there was already a thread for that.

There is also no other ferry to that island, so it has no other outlet.

Mike
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: hobsini2 on August 01, 2020, 03:12:50 PM
So if I understand this criteria correctly, WIS 42 qualifies since it ends at the Ferry to Washington Island. But WIS 136 does not qualify because it ends at County DL. Correct?
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: dvferyance on August 01, 2020, 07:50:01 PM
Quote from: hobsini2 on August 01, 2020, 03:12:50 PM
So if I understand this criteria correctly, WIS 42 qualifies since it ends at the Ferry to Washington Island. But WIS 136 does not qualify because it ends at County DL. Correct?
No because it's not a dead end. The highway itself may end but as long as there is some outlet at the endpoint it would not make it a dead end state route.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: kinupanda on August 02, 2020, 12:37:13 AM
Quote from: kphoger on July 28, 2020, 04:59:05 PM
Quote from: Road Hog on July 28, 2020, 04:57:32 PM
In anywhere outside of the Gulf shore or a state-line situation, I am not aware of many Texas state-maintained routes that dead-end. Usually they exist from one route to another route and any truncation takes place outside those bounds.

Municipal turnbacks appear to be the cause of most modern state route terminations deep in the hearta'. The only one close by that leaps to mind is FM 1417 that ends at McKinney city limits after the road was turned over to the city in 2001. Also, FM 1193 in Prosper used to terminate at Business 289 a mile west of the new-location route, but the business route (now Coleman Street) no longer exists, so 1193 terminates at Prosper's former main junction.

I've been trying to hunt down an FM route that dead-ends, but to no avail.
The west end of RM 1832 is at a Boy Scouts facility (GSV (https://goo.gl/maps/XRBFda2LaZ8oBBsG6)). Contrary to the map labels, TxDOT's planning map confirms that the designation ends as expected at the entrance, at what looks like a gate. Assuming that's what it is, this is technically a dead end when the gate is closed.
Title: Re: Signed state routes that dead-end
Post by: cpzilliacus on August 03, 2020, 05:41:04 PM
Quote from: Mapmikey on July 28, 2020, 03:25:22 PM
Quote from: epzik8 on July 26, 2020, 01:56:47 PM
There is a good number in Maryland with their unconventional system. MD 159 in Perryman stops at the Bush River, parallel to Amtrak and MARC's right of way. MD 177 ends at Gibson Island in Anne Arundel County. MD 272 stops at Elk Neck State Park in Cecil County. MD 24 in Edgewood in Harford County is a technicality because it ends at the Aberdeen Proving Ground gate, and you can't proceed without credentials. However, the road continues. Then there's MD 176, which ends at a point prior to a cul-de-sac in Anne Arundel County. It used to go out to US 1 in Elkridge in Howard County, but the construction of the MD 100 freeway during the 1990s split Dorsey Road in half. MD 100 replaced MD 176 in this area at the Baltimore-Washington Parkway interchange in the Hanover area. Today, the other half of Dorsey Road in part of MD 103.

Also signed in MD with dead ends...
MD 8
MD 18
MD 152 (most of the time)
MD 366
MD 413
MD 485
MD 591
MD 953

MD 263 (Plum Point Road) in Calvert County.