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Signed state routes that dead-end

Started by BridgesToIdealism, July 23, 2020, 06:43:34 PM

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ozarkman417

#50
AR 7 ends at a recreation area on a bend of the White River. AR 155 dead ends on top of Mount Nebo. MO 744 dead ends at the old SGF terminal.

All these routes have loops where turning around is possible, but those loops are not part of the highway itself.


mgk920

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on July 24, 2020, 09:48:17 AM
Quote from: thspfc on July 24, 2020, 09:26:57 AM
Not sure if mentioned yet, but US-41 and M-26 dead-end at Copper Harbor, and US-45 dead-ends in Ontonagon (though if it were me, I would route US-45 up to Houghton on M-26).

Actually M-26 ends in Copper Harbor but US 41 keeps going and ends at a roundabout near Mud Lake.

But a driveable road continues beyond that end.

Can I also assume that this criterion does not include ferry terminals?

Mike

Max Rockatansky

Quote from: mgk920 on July 25, 2020, 01:03:00 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on July 24, 2020, 09:48:17 AM
Quote from: thspfc on July 24, 2020, 09:26:57 AM
Not sure if mentioned yet, but US-41 and M-26 dead-end at Copper Harbor, and US-45 dead-ends in Ontonagon (though if it were me, I would route US-45 up to Houghton on M-26).

Actually M-26 ends in Copper Harbor but US 41 keeps going and ends at a roundabout near Mud Lake.

But a driveable road continues beyond that end.

Can I also assume that this criterion does not include ferry terminals?

Mike

Regarding ferry terminals I don't think that was addressed by the OP.  My understanding was that the criteria was highways that end and don't have an outlet ahead. 

Flint1979



Quote from: Max Rockatansky on July 25, 2020, 12:32:48 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on July 25, 2020, 12:19:33 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on July 24, 2020, 11:08:51 PM
Quote from: GaryV on July 24, 2020, 12:32:25 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on July 24, 2020, 09:48:17 AM
Quote from: thspfc on July 24, 2020, 09:26:57 AM
Not sure if mentioned yet, but US-41 and M-26 dead-end at Copper Harbor, and US-45 dead-ends in Ontonagon (though if it were me, I would route US-45 up to Houghton on M-26).

Actually M-26 ends in Copper Harbor but US 41 keeps going and ends at a roundabout near Mud Lake.

Depends on what you mean by "dead ends".  There is a dirt road (Mandan Rd) going out of the turnaround at the end of US-41 - that road loops around back to US-41 on the other side of Copper Harbor.

And US-45 ends at an intersection with a local street in Ontonagon.  That street used to be M-64 until the new bridge was built a bit upstream.  But it's still an intersection, not a cul de sac.
Well there is a dead end sign and where US-41 ends there is a Road Ends sign with a red diamond on it so I'm assuming that's where the road dead ends. After that it's basically just an ATV trail with lots of potholes and ruts.

The marker in the cul-de-sac at US-41's northern terminus.  Mandan Road is to the left in the background, but as Flint1979 noted it's really not passable for most vehicles.



Either way Mandan Road doesn't have an outlet.

It loops back to US-41 but isn't passable in some areas and is a dirt road. I wouldn't depend on it to take that loop back to US-41. I would consider it a dangerous road.

steviep24

#54
In western NY NY261 and NY272 dead end at Lake Ontario.

NOTE: NY237 and NY98 are truncated at the Lake Ontario State Parkway but both roads continue north to the lake. It's possible these routes may have dead ended at Lake Ontario at one time.

EDIT: Looks like NY261 officially ends at LOSP although Google Maps shows it going beyond that. Street View does show a JCT NY261 sign near the LOSP interchange.

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GA SR 177, split in the middle by the Okfenokee Swamp.

US71

#56
AR 94 and AR 264 dead end in Beaver Lake

AR 127 ends at Lost Bridge Park
Another section of 127 used to dead end into Beaver Lake, but was rerouted.
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formulanone

AL 62 ends at a gate for the long-closed Monsanto factory near Guntersville.

GaryV

Quote from: Flint1979 on July 25, 2020, 11:00:13 AM
US-45 doesn't exactly dead end. The street that US-45 ends on dead ends but US-45 ends about 1 or 2 blocks before that so you could call it a dead end I guess. I don't know why it doesn't end at it's intersection with M-38 and M-64.

US-45 ends at its old intersection with M-64.  Several years ago the old M-64 bridge was removed and a new high bridge was constructed upstream.  So the end of M-64 was changed at that time (and also M-38 to match it).  But US-45 remained the same.

BridgesToIdealism

Sorry I haven't been around to monitor the discussion here. In terms of my original intent with the question, my intent was to identify cases of signed state routes that literally terminate at a dead-end; that is, with no outlet and not at the intersection of another road. Routes that dead-end at a body of water do count, as long as the route doesn't continue disjointed on the other side (I saw a couple of posts about routes that were fragmented when bridges were demolished, while that's technically a dead-end, it's not what I had in mind). Same goes for state routes that are fragmented through National Parks - again, technically two dead-ends, but not exactly what I had in mind.

For a perfect example of the type of situation that I initially had in mind, look at Louisiana State Highway 300 as it terminates at a dead-end in Delacroix, LA. This was the first highway that led me to start this thread.
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In Ohio, I've located OH 44 & OH 53 dead ending into Lake Erie. OH 357 dead ends into Lake Erie on both of its ends (because it is on South Bass Island), and OH 247 dead ends into the Ohio River, south of US 52.
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roadman65

Quote from: kphoger on July 25, 2020, 11:48:06 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on July 25, 2020, 10:35:07 AM
FL 320 in Levy County is 6 miles long and ends at the entrance to Manatee Springs State Park.

But the road keeps going, doesn't it?

It does as a Park Road with no other outlet.
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roadman65

NY 27 would sure count at Montauk Point. However I assume NY 25 does not as the Cross Sound Ferry connects to New London, CT taking autos there.
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Flint1979

Quote from: GaryV on July 25, 2020, 08:28:54 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on July 25, 2020, 11:00:13 AM
US-45 doesn't exactly dead end. The street that US-45 ends on dead ends but US-45 ends about 1 or 2 blocks before that so you could call it a dead end I guess. I don't know why it doesn't end at it's intersection with M-38 and M-64.

US-45 ends at its old intersection with M-64.  Several years ago the old M-64 bridge was removed and a new high bridge was constructed upstream.  So the end of M-64 was changed at that time (and also M-38 to match it).  But US-45 remained the same.
Yeah you can clearly see where the old alignment of M-64 was on Google Maps. I don't think Ontonagon Street even exists on the west side of the river anymore that's a parking lot. They should have scaled US-45 back to the M-64/M-38 interchange when they made that change.

mgk920

Quote from: Flint1979 on July 25, 2020, 01:35:50 PM


Quote from: Max Rockatansky on July 25, 2020, 12:32:48 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on July 25, 2020, 12:19:33 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on July 24, 2020, 11:08:51 PM
Quote from: GaryV on July 24, 2020, 12:32:25 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on July 24, 2020, 09:48:17 AM
Quote from: thspfc on July 24, 2020, 09:26:57 AM
Not sure if mentioned yet, but US-41 and M-26 dead-end at Copper Harbor, and US-45 dead-ends in Ontonagon (though if it were me, I would route US-45 up to Houghton on M-26).

Actually M-26 ends in Copper Harbor but US 41 keeps going and ends at a roundabout near Mud Lake.

Depends on what you mean by "dead ends".  There is a dirt road (Mandan Rd) going out of the turnaround at the end of US-41 - that road loops around back to US-41 on the other side of Copper Harbor.

And US-45 ends at an intersection with a local street in Ontonagon.  That street used to be M-64 until the new bridge was built a bit upstream.  But it's still an intersection, not a cul de sac.
Well there is a dead end sign and where US-41 ends there is a Road Ends sign with a red diamond on it so I'm assuming that's where the road dead ends. After that it's basically just an ATV trail with lots of potholes and ruts.

The marker in the cul-de-sac at US-41's northern terminus.  Mandan Road is to the left in the background, but as Flint1979 noted it's really not passable for most vehicles.



Either way Mandan Road doesn't have an outlet.

It loops back to US-41 but isn't passable in some areas and is a dirt road. I wouldn't depend on it to take that loop back to US-41. I would consider it a dangerous road.

A bit off-topic, but that is also near the point on the 'lower 48' USA's road network that is the most remote, measured in driving distance, from the nearest interstate highway access interchange.

:spin:

Mike

Flint1979

#65
Quote from: mgk920 on July 26, 2020, 01:26:17 AM
Quote from: Flint1979 on July 25, 2020, 01:35:50 PM


Quote from: Max Rockatansky on July 25, 2020, 12:32:48 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on July 25, 2020, 12:19:33 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on July 24, 2020, 11:08:51 PM
Quote from: GaryV on July 24, 2020, 12:32:25 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on July 24, 2020, 09:48:17 AM
Quote from: thspfc on July 24, 2020, 09:26:57 AM
Not sure if mentioned yet, but US-41 and M-26 dead-end at Copper Harbor, and US-45 dead-ends in Ontonagon (though if it were me, I would route US-45 up to Houghton on M-26).

Actually M-26 ends in Copper Harbor but US 41 keeps going and ends at a roundabout near Mud Lake.

Depends on what you mean by "dead ends".  There is a dirt road (Mandan Rd) going out of the turnaround at the end of US-41 - that road loops around back to US-41 on the other side of Copper Harbor.

And US-45 ends at an intersection with a local street in Ontonagon.  That street used to be M-64 until the new bridge was built a bit upstream.  But it's still an intersection, not a cul de sac.
Well there is a dead end sign and where US-41 ends there is a Road Ends sign with a red diamond on it so I'm assuming that's where the road dead ends. After that it's basically just an ATV trail with lots of potholes and ruts.

The marker in the cul-de-sac at US-41's northern terminus.  Mandan Road is to the left in the background, but as Flint1979 noted it's really not passable for most vehicles.



Either way Mandan Road doesn't have an outlet.

It loops back to US-41 but isn't passable in some areas and is a dirt road. I wouldn't depend on it to take that loop back to US-41. I would consider it a dangerous road.

A bit off-topic, but that is also near the point on the 'lower 48' USA's road network that is the most remote, measured in driving distance, from the nearest interstate highway access interchange.

:spin:

Mike
Yes that is true I actually knew that piece of information.
The closest Interstate to Copper Harbor is I-39 at about 230 miles away.

debragga

Quote from: BridgesToIdealism on July 23, 2020, 06:43:34 PM
It seems that having signed state routes that have at least one terminus at a dead-end are somewhat common in Louisiana, especially down towards the Delta. However, I was wondering if anyone else knows of any other locations where this occurs in quantity? To clarify, I'm only talking about actively signed routes and current alignments (i.e. old alignments that have been bypassed but left in place in sections don't count). Some of the ones that I have thought of are below.

Louisiana

* LA-300 (dead-end at Delacroix)
* LA-46 (dead-end at Shell Beach)
* LA-624 (dead-end Hopedale Marina)
* LA-23 (dead-end at Venice)
* LA-39 (dead-end just south of the Pointe a la Hache ferry)
* LA-3257 (dead-end across the bayou from Lafitte)
* LA-1 (dead-end at Grand Isle)

Florida

* FL-404/Pineda Causeway (dead-end just west of I-95, although plans for extension)
* FL-9336 (dead-end at Everglades National Park)

South Carolina

* SC-700 (dead-end at Rockville)

LA-23 isn't a dead-end. It ends at a T-intersection with Jump Basin Rd.
LA-39 similarly ends at a T-intersection with Hwy 15 (old Highway 15?).

Mapmikey

VA 298 also has dead end conclusion...

Thing 342

I would say that VA33 also dead-ends, given that the streets at its end are privately-maintained and say NO ENTRANCE.

epzik8

There is a good number in Maryland with their unconventional system. MD 159 in Perryman stops at the Bush River, parallel to Amtrak and MARC's right of way. MD 177 ends at Gibson Island in Anne Arundel County. MD 272 stops at Elk Neck State Park in Cecil County. MD 24 in Edgewood in Harford County is a technicality because it ends at the Aberdeen Proving Ground gate, and you can't proceed without credentials. However, the road continues. Then there's MD 176, which ends at a point prior to a cul-de-sac in Anne Arundel County. It used to go out to US 1 in Elkridge in Howard County, but the construction of the MD 100 freeway during the 1990s split Dorsey Road in half. MD 100 replaced MD 176 in this area at the Baltimore-Washington Parkway interchange in the Hanover area. Today, the other half of Dorsey Road in part of MD 103.
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GaryA

CA 202 ends at the gate of a state prison, which may or may not match the OP's intent.

Max Rockatansky

#71
Quote from: GaryA on July 27, 2020, 11:46:38 AM
CA 202 ends at the gate of a state prison, which may or may not match the OP's intent.

But there is an outlet.  CA 222, CA 77, CA 153, CA 193, CA 275, CA 283, CA 211, CA 3, CA 151, CA 284, CA 270, CA 130, CA 198, and CA 191 similarly end but have outlet roads (good luck with CA 270 and Bodie Road towards Aurora).  One that I forgot about is CA 180 ending in Cedar Grove of Kings Canyon National Park, there is no outlet road.  Interestingly CA 180 was planned to cross the Sierra Nevada Mountains via Kearsarge Pass to Onion Valley Road.  Similarly CA 168's western segment ends at Camp Sabrina in what was the planned Piute Pass Highway.  CA 203 was part of the briefly studied Minaret Summit Highway.  In the case of CA 203 it ends just before the Mammoth Ski Area and thus has no outlet west towards Devil's Postpile.  Some highways like CA 178 and CA 190 end suddenly at segments that will never be built but have roads that provide an outlet. 

oscar

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on July 27, 2020, 11:59:15 AM
In the case of CA 203 it ends just before the Mammoth Ski Area and thus has no outlet west towards Devil's Postpile.

Legislatively, and confirmed by Caltrans' Postmile Query Tool, CA 203 ends west of the ski area, at the county line, where the pavement continues to Devil's Postpile. Travel past the ski area is usually blocked by snow in the winter, and may be mostly limited to shuttle buses in the summer, though I was able to drive to the county line in the off-season. There are some unpaved roads branching from CA 203 right around the county line, which may further complicate whether you want to call it a "dead end".
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Quote from: oscar on July 27, 2020, 12:31:10 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on July 27, 2020, 11:59:15 AM
In the case of CA 203 it ends just before the Mammoth Ski Area and thus has no outlet west towards Devil's Postpile.

Legislatively, and confirmed by Caltrans' Postmile Query Tool, CA 203 ends west of the ski area, at the county line, where the pavement continues to Devil's Postpile. Travel past the ski area is usually blocked by snow in the winter, and may be mostly limited to shuttle buses in the summer, though I was able to drive to the county line in the off-season. There are some unpaved roads branching from CA 203 right around the county line, which may further complicate whether you want to call it a "dead end".

There definitely isn't anything that will get you anywhere other than a turnaround back to the ski area and Minaret Summit, the further road ends at the Middle Fork San Joaquin River.  It's surprisingly close as the bird flys to Forest Route 81 in Sierra National Forest. 

Life in Paradise

Quote from: cabiness42 on July 24, 2020, 08:13:50 AM
Indiana:

IN 111 and IN 166 dead end at the Ohio River. Several other state highways end at entrances to places like military facilities, state parks, state home/hospitals, quarries, where the road continues as a restricted-access road.
There is also IN 69 that ends at the Hovey Wetlands near the Ohio River.



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