New cities could be constructed to Arctic. To have similar population density as same latitudes in Europe. I don't like that North America north of 60' has way, way lower population density that same latitudes in Europe. For example, Helsinki has 600,000 people and is located at 60'10N. Whitehorse is largest city in Canada north of 60', but it has only 28,000 people. By the way, Helsinki is largest city in the world entirely north of 60' (St. Petersburg, which is larger, is partially north of 60'). Midnight sun and polar night would be nice to sse in large cities, so I propose large cities to latitudes where they can be seen. Souky is example of such city.
Antarctica could also warm and get some cities. The high latitudes of southern hemisphere are too less populated, and they could also become more populated.
Nobody wants to move to the arctic.
Giving up on Souky already?
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=32873.msg2815550;topicseen#msg2815550
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 11, 2023, 02:06:46 PM
I don't like that North America north of 60' has way, way lower population density that same latitudes in Europe. For example, Helsinki has 600,000 people and is located at 60'10N. Whitehorse is largest city in Canada north of 60', but it has only 28,000 people.
There's a little thing called the Jet Stream that makes Europe habitable at higher latitudes. Good luck farming and building a comfortable year-round city in northern Canada.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 11, 2023, 02:06:46 PM
The high latitudes of southern hemisphere are too less populated, and they could also become more populated.
It's almost all ocean. Floating cities are expensive.
Quote from: Bruce on February 11, 2023, 02:15:54 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 11, 2023, 02:06:46 PM
I don't like that North America north of 60' has way, way lower population density that same latitudes in Europe. For example, Helsinki has 600,000 people and is located at 60'10N. Whitehorse is largest city in Canada north of 60', but it has only 28,000 people.
There's a little thing called the Jet Stream that makes Europe habitable at higher latitudes. Good luck farming and building a comfortable year-round city in northern Canada.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 11, 2023, 02:06:46 PM
The high latitudes of southern hemisphere are too less populated, and they could also become more populated.
It's almost all ocean. Floating cities are expensive.
It is actually Gulfstream.
And as a demo - warning, huge GIF file:
https://climatereanalyzer.org/clim/animations/scycle/World_ERAI_T2_scycle.gif (https://climatereanalyzer.org/clim/animations/scycle/World_ERAI_T2_scycle.gif)
Just for reference, since that is in C: 0 - water freezing point, +20 - room temperature, above +30 - I desperately need an AC; -30 - if you need to use an outhouse, make sure you get a helper to break it off as it freezes.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 11, 2023, 02:06:46 PM
New cities could be constructed to Arctic.
No, they couldn't. There's permafrost.
Souky's motto is "Read Bio First". It was chosen so that people don't immediately decide to move there because it looks pretty with all the snow without thinking about it first.
(I'm not sure how many of you will get this reference.)
Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on February 11, 2023, 07:26:58 PM
Are these like underwater cities or something?
I've done it in Minecraft (well, on a personal scale), back when waterlogged blocks didn't exist and doors and signs blocked water.
There must be a perfectly valid reason why the tropical latitudes hold the vast majority of world's population, while the two largest countries in the world are the most sparsely populated. My best guess is that people tend to gravitate towards warmer climates....it's just human nature that warm weather is more attractive than cold weather.
The combined population of Canada, Alaska, Russia, and Antarctica is far less than that of Nigeria or Pakistan.
Quote from: jgb191 on February 13, 2023, 01:24:30 AM
There must be a perfectly valid reason why the tropical latitudes hold the vast majority of world's population, while the two largest countries in the world are the most sparsely populated. My best guess is that people tend to gravitate towards warmer climates....it's just human nature that warm weather is more attractive than cold weather.
The combined population of Canada, Alaska, Russia, and Antarctica is far less than that of Nigeria or Pakistan.
Few reasons
1. Human species are endemic to sub-Saharan Africa, and the original outmigration was largely along the sea/ocean shore towards Asia, and along the Mediterranean sea. So we are designed for those areas.
2. ecosystem productivity, aka ability to grow food, which directly depends on the amount of sunshine vegetation can absorb. Better when the sky is high in the sky. Year-round vegetation helps a lot.
3. Simply more area - if my sleepy estimate is correct, tropics (as in 23N to 23S belt) account for 40% of earth's surface. (not sure about dry land). Polar areas, >66 deg, are 10% of the total surface.
4. Probably has something to do with landmass configuration. Continental areas - Siberia, Tibet and western China/Mongolia; Rockies and flyover US states; Sahara somewhat belongs here as well - are not good areas for agriculture.
Antarctica could support cities.
These temperatures don't seem unbearable, although it's an island off the coast and not on the mainland. (62°S; southern tip of Argentina is 55°S)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_George_Island_(South_Shetland_Islands%29
For those who don't click the link:
Warmest month: 32°-37°F (there's very little change between day and night during the summer)
Coldest month: 8°-28°F on one part of the island and 14°-25°F on another part
Antarctica could warm. Its climate is currently either tundra (ET) or ice cap (EF) but it could warm (at least in some locations) to humid continental (Dfb) or subantarctic (Dfc).
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 13, 2023, 10:06:59 AM
Antarctica could warm. Its climate is currently either tundra (ET) or ice cap (EF) but it could warm (at least in some locations) to humid continental (Dfb) or subantarctic (Dfc).
Ah yes, the Kernals12 approach. Well played sir!
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 13, 2023, 10:06:59 AM
Antarctica could warm. Its climate is currently either tundra (ET) or ice cap (EF) but it could warm (at least in some locations) to humid continental (Dfb) or subantarctic (Dfc).
Once the ice melts (and that is a veeery long shot!) most of Antarctica will be underwater.
As of right now, I believe Argentina has something like a small village on Antarctic peninsular. Also US main Antarctic base, McMurdo, has a population of about 3000 during local summer.
Quote from: kalvado on February 13, 2023, 12:00:47 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 13, 2023, 10:06:59 AM
Antarctica could warm. Its climate is currently either tundra (ET) or ice cap (EF) but it could warm (at least in some locations) to humid continental (Dfb) or subantarctic (Dfc).
Once the ice melts (and that is a veeery long shot!) most of Antarctica will be underwater.
As of right now, I believe Argentina has something like a small village on Antarctic peninsular. Also US main Antarctic base, McMurdo, has a population of about 3000 during local summer.
Antarctica would also support boreal (or austral) coniferous forests.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 13, 2023, 12:08:23 PM
Quote from: kalvado on February 13, 2023, 12:00:47 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 13, 2023, 10:06:59 AM
Antarctica could warm. Its climate is currently either tundra (ET) or ice cap (EF) but it could warm (at least in some locations) to humid continental (Dfb) or subantarctic (Dfc).
Once the ice melts (and that is a veeery long shot!) most of Antarctica will be underwater.
As of right now, I believe Argentina has something like a small village on Antarctic peninsular. Also US main Antarctic base, McMurdo, has a population of about 3000 during local summer.
Antarctica would also support boreal (or austral) coniferous forests.
That's your dream, not a fact. Polar vortex with long winter would still be pretty harsh environment.
Until you have some climate engineering tech in mind...
Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on February 13, 2023, 12:33:53 PM
We could use a massive array of mirrors to focus the sunlight onto the weakest points in the ice layers to speed up melting, but these would have to be removed before the town was inhabited as obviously this would blind and burn anyone who stepped foot in the town.
Deploy your SWAT team. They can use their helicopters and grapple hooks.
Quote from: kalvado on February 13, 2023, 12:25:04 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 13, 2023, 12:08:23 PM
Quote from: kalvado on February 13, 2023, 12:00:47 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 13, 2023, 10:06:59 AM
Antarctica could warm. Its climate is currently either tundra (ET) or ice cap (EF) but it could warm (at least in some locations) to humid continental (Dfb) or subantarctic (Dfc).
Once the ice melts (and that is a veeery long shot!) most of Antarctica will be underwater.
As of right now, I believe Argentina has something like a small village on Antarctic peninsular. Also US main Antarctic base, McMurdo, has a population of about 3000 during local summer.
Antarctica would also support boreal (or austral) coniferous forests.
That's your dream, not a fact. Polar vortex with long winter would still be pretty harsh environment.
Until you have some climate engineering tech in mind...
Similar to taiga.
Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on February 13, 2023, 12:33:53 PM
We could use a massive array of mirrors to focus the sunlight onto the weakest points in the ice layers to speed up melting, but these would have to be removed before the town was inhabited as obviously this would blind and burn anyone who stepped foot in the town.
Yes! Both in Souky and Antarctica.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 13, 2023, 12:48:40 PM
Quote from: kalvado on February 13, 2023, 12:25:04 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 13, 2023, 12:08:23 PM
Quote from: kalvado on February 13, 2023, 12:00:47 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 13, 2023, 10:06:59 AM
Antarctica could warm. Its climate is currently either tundra (ET) or ice cap (EF) but it could warm (at least in some locations) to humid continental (Dfb) or subantarctic (Dfc).
Once the ice melts (and that is a veeery long shot!) most of Antarctica will be underwater.
As of right now, I believe Argentina has something like a small village on Antarctic peninsular. Also US main Antarctic base, McMurdo, has a population of about 3000 during local summer.
Antarctica would also support boreal (or austral) coniferous forests.
That's your dream, not a fact. Polar vortex with long winter would still be pretty harsh environment.
Until you have some climate engineering tech in mind...
Similar to taiga.
Did you compare latitudes properly?
Quote from: kalvado on February 13, 2023, 12:58:14 PM
Did you compare latitudes properly?
Reply #14 (mine): 62°S
Helsinki: 60°N
Not that far apart in absolute value.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 13, 2023, 12:08:23 PM
Quote from: kalvado on February 13, 2023, 12:00:47 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 13, 2023, 10:06:59 AM
Antarctica could warm. Its climate is currently either tundra (ET) or ice cap (EF) but it could warm (at least in some locations) to humid continental (Dfb) or subantarctic (Dfc).
Once the ice melts (and that is a veeery long shot!) most of Antarctica will be underwater.
As of right now, I believe Argentina has something like a small village on Antarctic peninsular. Also US main Antarctic base, McMurdo, has a population of about 3000 during local summer.
Antarctica would also support boreal (or austral) coniferous forests.
As long as we're making shit up, can I get a tropical rainforest for Las Vegas?
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 13, 2023, 01:31:17 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 13, 2023, 12:08:23 PM
Quote from: kalvado on February 13, 2023, 12:00:47 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 13, 2023, 10:06:59 AM
Antarctica could warm. Its climate is currently either tundra (ET) or ice cap (EF) but it could warm (at least in some locations) to humid continental (Dfb) or subantarctic (Dfc).
Once the ice melts (and that is a veeery long shot!) most of Antarctica will be underwater.
As of right now, I believe Argentina has something like a small village on Antarctic peninsular. Also US main Antarctic base, McMurdo, has a population of about 3000 during local summer.
Antarctica would also support boreal (or austral) coniferous forests.
As long as we're making shit up, can I get a tropical rainforest for Las Vegas?
Or lake to Las Vegas.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 13, 2023, 01:42:37 PM
Or lake to Las Vegas.
There are already some lakes along the Nevada-Arizona border.
(I'm really trying not to increase my Off-Topic/Fictional percentage, but it seems so hard...)
Quote from: 1 on February 13, 2023, 01:46:34 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 13, 2023, 01:42:37 PM
Or lake to Las Vegas.
There are already some lakes along the Nevada-Arizona border.
(I'm really trying not to increase my Off-Topic/Fictional percentage, but it seems so hard...)
Booger Queen Lake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 13, 2023, 01:48:29 PM
Quote from: 1 on February 13, 2023, 01:46:34 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 13, 2023, 01:42:37 PM
Or lake to Las Vegas.
There are already some lakes along the Nevada-Arizona border.
(I'm really trying not to increase my Off-Topic/Fictional percentage, but it seems so hard...)
Pat Summerall Lake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think this is needed.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 13, 2023, 02:12:54 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 13, 2023, 01:48:29 PM
Quote from: 1 on February 13, 2023, 01:46:34 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 13, 2023, 01:42:37 PM
Or lake to Las Vegas.
There are already some lakes along the Nevada-Arizona border.
(I'm really trying not to increase my Off-Topic/Fictional percentage, but it seems so hard...)
Pat Summerall Lake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think this is needed.
Not needed.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 13, 2023, 02:13:41 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 13, 2023, 02:12:54 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 13, 2023, 01:48:29 PM
Quote from: 1 on February 13, 2023, 01:46:34 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 13, 2023, 01:42:37 PM
Or lake to Las Vegas.
There are already some lakes along the Nevada-Arizona border.
(I'm really trying not to increase my Off-Topic/Fictional percentage, but it seems so hard...)
Pat Summerall Lake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think this is needed.
I also think this is needed.
Glad we can agree.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 13, 2023, 01:42:37 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 13, 2023, 01:31:17 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 13, 2023, 12:08:23 PM
Quote from: kalvado on February 13, 2023, 12:00:47 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 13, 2023, 10:06:59 AM
Antarctica could warm. Its climate is currently either tundra (ET) or ice cap (EF) but it could warm (at least in some locations) to humid continental (Dfb) or subantarctic (Dfc).
Once the ice melts (and that is a veeery long shot!) most of Antarctica will be underwater.
As of right now, I believe Argentina has something like a small village on Antarctic peninsular. Also US main Antarctic base, McMurdo, has a population of about 3000 during local summer.
Antarctica would also support boreal (or austral) coniferous forests.
As long as we're making shit up, can I get a tropical rainforest for Las Vegas?
Or lake to Las Vegas.
Already exists. It's called Lake Mead. I've been to it.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 13, 2023, 01:48:29 PM
Booger Queen Lake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The name it already had is better.
Booger Queen stuffs pencils up her nose and leaves shopping carts out in the middle of the freeway so she shouldn't have anything named after her.
Wow, I've never seen the word filter actually break the forum before. That's kind of funny. (appears to be fixed now)
All hail Booger Queen!
Souky would have a Burge King.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 15, 2023, 03:07:12 PM
Souky would have a Burge King.
Doesn't having a monarch from the dynastic Burge family line kind of go against the Soviet-style Socialist utopia that Souky is supposed to be?
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 15, 2023, 03:09:28 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 15, 2023, 03:07:12 PM
Souky would have a Burge King.
Doesn't having a monarch from the dynastic Burge family line kind of go against the Soviet-style Socialist utopia that Souky is supposed to be?
North Korea calls itself socialist and it basically has a monarchy.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 15, 2023, 03:08:22 PM
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Souky would have a Burge King.
What is a Burge?
The male form for someone who served in the House of Burgesses (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Burgesses).
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 15, 2023, 04:56:07 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 15, 2023, 03:08:22 PM
:ded:Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 15, 2023, 03:07:12 PM
Souky would have a Burge King.
What is a Burge?
The male form for someone who served in the House of Burgesses (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Burgesses).
Totsoland, unlike Alanland, is governed by a Dominator and a House of Burges and Burgesses. The Dominator is a ceremonial role that carries no real power, which typically means anarchy in the House. And by anarchy, I mean throwing fish, soybeans, and flushable wipes is a normal occurrence there.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 16, 2023, 12:25:44 PM
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Souky would have a Burge King.
What is a Burge?
Typo. Burger King.
Typos are legal in Souky?
No.
They are punishable by 11 to 37 months of capital punishment.
Quote from: kalvado on February 16, 2023, 12:41:50 PM
They are punishable by 11 to 37 months of capital punishment.
Add another 26 for lowercase punishment. (I'm assuming 11 is the ten digits and space.)
Quote from: 1 on February 16, 2023, 12:44:18 PM
Quote from: kalvado on February 16, 2023, 12:41:50 PM
They are punishable by 11 to 37 months of capital punishment.
Add another 26 for lowercase punishment. (I'm assuming 11 is the ten digits and space.)
Is Souky like Alanland now?
Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on February 16, 2023, 12:57:06 PM
Can we have a law in this new city where asshole drivers who are hogging lanes, tailgating, and failing to keep right get scooped up by helicopters and dumped in the nearest body of water? I bet fear of this enforcement would also keep traffic levels down as well.
Souky would have a freeway. For cars, not snowmobiles.
Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on February 16, 2023, 12:57:06 PM
Can we have a law in this new city where asshole drivers who are hogging lanes, tailgating, and failing to keep right get scooped up by helicopters and dumped in the nearest body of water? I bet fear of this enforcement would also keep traffic levels down as well.
In Soviet Canada, lanes hog you.
Quote from: jlam on February 16, 2023, 01:00:54 PM
Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on February 16, 2023, 12:57:06 PM
Can we have a law in this new city where asshole drivers who are hogging lanes, tailgating, and failing to keep right get scooped up by helicopters and dumped in the nearest body of water? I bet fear of this enforcement would also keep traffic levels down as well.
In Soviet Canada, lanes hog you.
There is no "Soviet Canada".
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 16, 2023, 01:23:39 PM
Quote from: jlam on February 16, 2023, 01:00:54 PM
Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on February 16, 2023, 12:57:06 PM
Can we have a law in this new city where asshole drivers who are hogging lanes, tailgating, and failing to keep right get scooped up by helicopters and dumped in the nearest body of water? I bet fear of this enforcement would also keep traffic levels down as well.
In Soviet Canada, lanes hog you.
There is no "Soviet Canada".
There will be once MultiMillionMiler sells off Alaska to Canada to pay for his I-90 through Ontario, the Bering Strait bridge is built, and Russia invades across the bridge.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 16, 2023, 01:23:39 PM
Quote from: jlam on February 16, 2023, 01:00:54 PM
Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on February 16, 2023, 12:57:06 PM
Can we have a law in this new city where asshole drivers who are hogging lanes, tailgating, and failing to keep right get scooped up by helicopters and dumped in the nearest body of water? I bet fear of this enforcement would also keep traffic levels down as well.
In Soviet Canada, lanes hog you.
There is no "Soviet Canada".
Of course not, who's to say what lies beyond the Iron Curtain?
Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on February 16, 2023, 12:57:06 PM
Can we have a law in this new city where asshole drivers who are hogging lanes, tailgating, and failing to keep right get scooped up by helicopters and dumped in the nearest body of water? I bet fear of this enforcement would also keep traffic levels down as well.
You can have all the secret police you want in Soviet Souky.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 16, 2023, 01:23:39 PM
Quote from: jlam on February 16, 2023, 01:00:54 PM
Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on February 16, 2023, 12:57:06 PM
Can we have a law in this new city where asshole drivers who are hogging lanes, tailgating, and failing to keep right get scooped up by helicopters and dumped in the nearest body of water? I bet fear of this enforcement would also keep traffic levels down as well.
In Soviet Canada, lanes hog you.
There is no "Soviet Canada".
Canada has free healthcare and paid maternity leave. Of course it's Communist :spin:.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 16, 2023, 02:01:39 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 16, 2023, 01:23:39 PM
Quote from: jlam on February 16, 2023, 01:00:54 PM
Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on February 16, 2023, 12:57:06 PM
Can we have a law in this new city where asshole drivers who are hogging lanes, tailgating, and failing to keep right get scooped up by helicopters and dumped in the nearest body of water? I bet fear of this enforcement would also keep traffic levels down as well.
In Soviet Canada, lanes hog you.
There is no "Soviet Canada".
Of course not, who's to say what lies beyond the Iron Curtain?
Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on February 16, 2023, 12:57:06 PM
Can we have a law in this new city where asshole drivers who are hogging lanes, tailgating, and failing to keep right get scooped up by helicopters and dumped in the nearest body of water? I bet fear of this enforcement would also keep traffic levels down as well.
You can have all the secret police you want in Soviet Souky.
Souky is not "Soviet".
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 16, 2023, 02:09:36 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 16, 2023, 02:01:39 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 16, 2023, 01:23:39 PM
Quote from: jlam on February 16, 2023, 01:00:54 PM
Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on February 16, 2023, 12:57:06 PM
Can we have a law in this new city where asshole drivers who are hogging lanes, tailgating, and failing to keep right get scooped up by helicopters and dumped in the nearest body of water? I bet fear of this enforcement would also keep traffic levels down as well.
In Soviet Canada, lanes hog you.
There is no "Soviet Canada".
Of course not, who’s to say what lies beyond the Iron Curtain?
Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on February 16, 2023, 12:57:06 PM
Can we have a law in this new city where asshole drivers who are hogging lanes, tailgating, and failing to keep right get scooped up by helicopters and dumped in the nearest body of water? I bet fear of this enforcement would also keep traffic levels down as well.
You can have all the secret police you want in Soviet Souky.
Souky is not "Soviet".
That's exactly what someone running a Soviet Dictatorship would say.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 16, 2023, 02:11:35 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 16, 2023, 02:09:36 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 16, 2023, 02:01:39 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 16, 2023, 01:23:39 PM
Quote from: jlam on February 16, 2023, 01:00:54 PM
Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on February 16, 2023, 12:57:06 PM
Can we have a law in this new city where asshole drivers who are hogging lanes, tailgating, and failing to keep right get scooped up by helicopters and dumped in the nearest body of water? I bet fear of this enforcement would also keep traffic levels down as well.
In Soviet Canada, lanes hog you.
There is no "Soviet Canada".
Of course not, who's to say what lies beyond the Iron Curtain?
Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on February 16, 2023, 12:57:06 PM
Can we have a law in this new city where asshole drivers who are hogging lanes, tailgating, and failing to keep right get scooped up by helicopters and dumped in the nearest body of water? I bet fear of this enforcement would also keep traffic levels down as well.
You can have all the secret police you want in Soviet Souky.
Souky is not "Soviet".
That's exactly what someone running a Soviet Dictatorship would say.
Yes, Souky is a "socialist utopia" where people work for the good of everyone.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 16, 2023, 02:21:02 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 16, 2023, 02:11:35 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 16, 2023, 02:09:36 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 16, 2023, 02:01:39 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 16, 2023, 01:23:39 PM
Quote from: jlam on February 16, 2023, 01:00:54 PM
Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on February 16, 2023, 12:57:06 PM
Can we have a law in this new city where asshole drivers who are hogging lanes, tailgating, and failing to keep right get scooped up by helicopters and dumped in the nearest body of water? I bet fear of this enforcement would also keep traffic levels down as well.
In Soviet Canada, lanes hog you.
There is no "Soviet Canada".
Of course not, who’s to say what lies beyond the Iron Curtain?
Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on February 16, 2023, 12:57:06 PM
Can we have a law in this new city where asshole drivers who are hogging lanes, tailgating, and failing to keep right get scooped up by helicopters and dumped in the nearest body of water? I bet fear of this enforcement would also keep traffic levels down as well.
You can have all the secret police you want in Soviet Souky.
Souky is not "Soviet".
That's exactly what someone running a Soviet Dictatorship would say.
Yes, Souky is a “socialist utopia” where people work for the good of everyone.
Except our glorious leader Comrade Poiponen. He and his buddies don't have to work, he has already led the glorious revolution against Justin Trudeau and the Canadian Bourgeoisie.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 16, 2023, 02:49:15 PM
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Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 16, 2023, 02:01:39 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 16, 2023, 01:23:39 PM
Quote from: jlam on February 16, 2023, 01:00:54 PM
Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on February 16, 2023, 12:57:06 PM
Can we have a law in this new city where asshole drivers who are hogging lanes, tailgating, and failing to keep right get scooped up by helicopters and dumped in the nearest body of water? I bet fear of this enforcement would also keep traffic levels down as well.
In Soviet Canada, lanes hog you.
There is no "Soviet Canada".
Of course not, who's to say what lies beyond the Iron Curtain?
Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on February 16, 2023, 12:57:06 PM
Can we have a law in this new city where asshole drivers who are hogging lanes, tailgating, and failing to keep right get scooped up by helicopters and dumped in the nearest body of water? I bet fear of this enforcement would also keep traffic levels down as well.
You can have all the secret police you want in Soviet Souky.
Souky is not "Soviet".
That's exactly what someone running a Soviet Dictatorship would say.
Yes, Souky is a "socialist utopia" where people work for the good of everyone.
Except our glorious leader Comrade Poiponen. He and his buddies don't have to work, he has already led the glorious revolution against Justin Trudeau and the Canadian Bourgeoisie.
Souky would be normal Canadian city.
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Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on February 16, 2023, 12:57:06 PM
Can we have a law in this new city where asshole drivers who are hogging lanes, tailgating, and failing to keep right get scooped up by helicopters and dumped in the nearest body of water? I bet fear of this enforcement would also keep traffic levels down as well.
In Soviet Canada, lanes hog you.
There is no "Soviet Canada".
Of course not, who's to say what lies beyond the Iron Curtain?
Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on February 16, 2023, 12:57:06 PM
Can we have a law in this new city where asshole drivers who are hogging lanes, tailgating, and failing to keep right get scooped up by helicopters and dumped in the nearest body of water? I bet fear of this enforcement would also keep traffic levels down as well.
You can have all the secret police you want in Soviet Souky.
Souky is not "Soviet".
That's exactly what someone running a Soviet Dictatorship would say.
Yes, Souky is a "socialist utopia" where people work for the good of everyone.
Except our glorious leader Comrade Poiponen. He and his buddies don't have to work, he has already led the glorious revolution against Justin Trudeau and the Canadian Bourgeoisie.
Souky would be normal Canadian city.
So communist right? Cuz Canada has socialized healthcare and more scary welfare programs than the glorious US of A.
Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on February 16, 2023, 12:57:06 PM
Can we have a law in this new city where asshole drivers who are hogging lanes, tailgating, and failing to keep right get scooped up by helicopters and dumped in the nearest body of water? I bet fear of this enforcement would also keep traffic levels down as well.
You can certainly start the trend and drive into the ocean.
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Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on February 16, 2023, 12:57:06 PM
Can we have a law in this new city where asshole drivers who are hogging lanes, tailgating, and failing to keep right get scooped up by helicopters and dumped in the nearest body of water? I bet fear of this enforcement would also keep traffic levels down as well.
In Soviet Canada, lanes hog you.
There is no "Soviet Canada".
Of course not, who's to say what lies beyond the Iron Curtain?
Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on February 16, 2023, 12:57:06 PM
Can we have a law in this new city where asshole drivers who are hogging lanes, tailgating, and failing to keep right get scooped up by helicopters and dumped in the nearest body of water? I bet fear of this enforcement would also keep traffic levels down as well.
You can have all the secret police you want in Soviet Souky.
Souky is not "Soviet".
That's exactly what someone running a Soviet Dictatorship would say.
Yes, Souky is a "socialist utopia" where people work for the good of everyone.
Except our glorious leader Comrade Poiponen. He and his buddies don't have to work, he has already led the glorious revolution against Justin Trudeau and the Canadian Bourgeoisie.
Souky would be normal Canadian city.
So communist right? Cuz Canada has socialized healthcare and more scary welfare programs than the glorious US of A.
I get the gist Poiponen is trying to walk his Uber Communist utopia back but I tend to feel we are too late in the game for that. Souky might as well be the new age Magadan at this point.
Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on February 16, 2023, 05:01:01 PM
In fact this is a good way we can help Ukraine out, by building a trap Bridge. We make the bering straight bridge look like a normal American transportation project, even pretend to complete all the roads on the other side, and when the Bridge is filled to capacity with Russian tanks, the entire Bridge cab tilt sideways and slide them off into the Bering straight. Rinse and Repeat. Perfect defense strategy during uncertain times.
Dude Russia isn't falling for that. They might be dumb but not that dumb.
Would it be "Union of Soviet Souky Republics" or "Union of Souky Socialist Republics"?
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 16, 2023, 07:03:00 PM
Would it be "Union of Soviet Souky Republics" or "Union of Souky Socialist Republics"?
Both sound kind of Souky regardless. How about the Souky Democratic Republic (SDR)?
Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on February 16, 2023, 02:07:55 PM
The Bering straight bridge can have a self destruct button if russian tanks are wandering 2 close to it. Or have it built like a drawbridge.
When the Channel Tunnel was first proposed in the 1800s, because of fears that it would be a French invasion route they proposed a self-destruct mechanism.
Switzerland I understand has prepared explosives in a lot of its tunnels and long-span bridges, to make it useless for anyone to invade it.
There would be also a city called Mezencourt in Melville Island, in Nunavut.
I'll create a city called Nazelrod in Oklahoma. Tornadoes are banned from the city by law.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on June 18, 2023, 01:14:30 PM
There would be also a city called Mezencourt in Melville Island, in Nunavut.
I was just pondering the other day when we resume the serious discussion on Arctic Island Gulags.
Quote from: 1 on June 18, 2023, 01:21:16 PM
I'll create a city called Nazelrod in Oklahoma. Tornadoes are banned from the city by law.
Who would be in charge of enforcing the law, and how would they do it? (I call not it, by the way; I'm not quite sure I'm capable of slapping some cuffs on a mesocyclone.)
Quote from: Scott5114 on June 18, 2023, 05:20:02 PM
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I'll create a city called Nazelrod in Oklahoma. Tornadoes are banned from the city by law.
Who would be in charge of enforcing the law, and how would they do it? (I call not it, by the way; I'm not quite sure I'm capable of slapping some cuffs on a mesocyclone.)
I though you are in marijuana industry? A bit more of your product, and you should feel much more confidence in such situation!
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I'll create a city called Nazelrod in Oklahoma. Tornadoes are banned from the city by law.
Who would be in charge of enforcing the law, and how would they do it? (I call not it, by the way; I'm not quite sure I'm capable of slapping some cuffs on a mesocyclone.)
I though you are in marijuana industry? A bit more of your product, and you should feel much more confidence in such situation!
I got forced out of it a year or so ago by the Oklahoma Legislature putting a moratorium on OMMA issuing any new licenses for two years. I was hanging on pretty well running at a loss until then, but I definitely couldn't have held out for two more years. It also became pretty impossible to get any financing for the project at that point, as you might imagine, since "legally not allowed to do business for two years" isn't really something most people want to throw money at. It's probably just as well, though, since my business partners had a baby around the same time and were understandably more focused on that.
However, the Legislature passing that was basically the straw that broke the camel's back for me and finally led me to decide I wanted to move out of Oklahoma. My wife and I had a few discussions about where we might go, and decided that investigating Nevada would make the most sense. Now we've fallen in love with the place and are working in earnest to get things where they need to be financially to make a move possible. (You'll know when it finally happens, because my avatar will change.)
I present you the climate of Souky. Both in Celsius and Fahrenheit.
In format Jan-Feb-Mar-Apr-May-Jun-Jul-Aug-Sep-Oct-Nov-Dec.
Celsius
Maximum temperature: -28,-26,-22,-18,-7,+2,+8,+5,-1,-9,-20,-27
Mean temperature: -31,-30,-29,-24,-10,+1,+6,+2,-3,-11,-23,-30
Minimum temperature: -35,-33,-31,-26,-12,-2,+3,+1,-5,-16,-26,-33
Fahrenheit
Quote from: Poiponen13 on June 19, 2023, 11:54:50 AM
Celsius
Maximum temperature: -28,-26,-22,-18,-7,+2,+8,+5,-1,-9,-20,-27
So who wants to live here?
Last February, the temperature here hit -8°F (-22°C), and not only was that a one-time occurrence, that was a low, not a high. You're suggesting people live in areas with
highs lower than that.
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Celsius
Maximum temperature: -28,-26,-22,-18,-7,+2,+8,+5,-1,-9,-20,-27
So who wants to live here?
Last February, the temperature here hit -8°F (-22°C), and not only was that a one-time occurrence, that was a low, not a high. You're suggesting people live in areas with highs lower than that.
Yakutsk is such city. Averages are in -35 Celsius.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on June 19, 2023, 11:54:50 AM
I present you the climate of Souky. Both in Celsius and Fahrenheit.
In format Jan-Feb-Mar-Apr-May-Jun-Jul-Aug-Sep-Oct-Nov-Dec.
Celsius
Maximum temperature: -28,-26,-22,-18,-7,+2,+8,+5,-1,-9,-20,-27
Mean temperature: -31,-30,-29,-24,-10,+1,+6,+2,-3,-11,-23,-30
Minimum temperature: -35,-33,-31,-26,-12,-2,+3,+1,-5,-16,-26,-33
Fahrenheit
Some questions:
1. What's up with your ridiculous and non-functioning [size] tags (I removed them from this quote)?
2. Is Fahrenheit weather prohibited by law, or does it just not exist for some other reason?
3. Are these maximums and minimums actually enforced, or are other temperatures permitted
de facto?
Quote from: Poiponen13 on June 19, 2023, 12:04:36 PM
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So who wants to live here?
Yakutsk is such city. Averages are in -35 Celsius.
So your counterargument was to highlight the coldest city in the world?
Question: How many people would still be moving to Yakutsk, if you took away the diamond mines?
Prisoners of the state don't need arguments for why they are relocated to wherever the labor is needed.
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Quote from: Poiponen13 on June 19, 2023, 11:54:50 AM
I present you the climate of Souky. Both in Celsius and Fahrenheit.
In format Jan-Feb-Mar-Apr-May-Jun-Jul-Aug-Sep-Oct-Nov-Dec.
Celsius
Maximum temperature: -28,-26,-22,-18,-7,+2,+8,+5,-1,-9,-20,-27
Mean temperature: -31,-30,-29,-24,-10,+1,+6,+2,-3,-11,-23,-30
Minimum temperature: -35,-33,-31,-26,-12,-2,+3,+1,-5,-16,-26,-33
Fahrenheit
Some questions:
1. What's up with your ridiculous and non-functioning [size] tags (I removed them from this quote)?
2. Is Fahrenheit weather prohibited by law, or does it just not exist for some other reason?
3. Are these maximums and minimums actually enforced, or are other temperatures permitted de facto?
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1. An accidental highlighting.
2. I didn't have time to do Fahrenheit. I was in a hurry.
3. These are
averages. Source. (https://climatemaps.romgens.com) The record high would be -5C in January and +20C in July, and record low would be -55C in January and -10C in July.[/size]
Souky would at least be cool in summer. The climate would be tundra climate (ET). But the summer temperatures could rise above 10C so the climate would be subarctic (Dfc) now.
All in all, this sounds like a terrible place to live.
Quote from: kphoger on June 19, 2023, 02:46:58 PM
All in all, this sounds like a terrible place to live.
But it could warm.
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Quote from: kphoger on June 19, 2023, 02:46:58 PM
All in all, this sounds like a terrible place to live.
But it could warm.
It's a figment of your own imagination. You tell me: will it warm?
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All in all, this sounds like a terrible place to live.
But it could warm.
But when it warms, the sea level will go up and half the town will be flooded. The other half will be terrorized by ravenous polar bears who can no longer hunt on the sea ice.
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All in all, this sounds like a terrible place to live.
But it could warm.
But if it warms, Alaska will need to find a new state bird, because every mosquito will try to be first in line in making their way over to Souky!
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All in all, this sounds like a terrible place to live.
But it could warm.
But if it warms, Alaska will need to find a new state bird, because every mosquito will try to be first in line in making their way over to Souky!
Guys, if it get warms in Alaska just adopt the mindset of Dale Gribble.
A place that cold is bound to have a permafrost layer in its soil. If it did warm, the permafrost would melt, making every building in town unstable.
Quote from: Scott5114 on June 19, 2023, 04:51:25 PM
A place that cold is bound to have a permafrost layer in its soil. If it did warm, the permafrost would melt, making every building in town unstable.
The city of Yakutsk, mentioned earlier, is indeed one of only two large-ish cities in the world to have year-round permafrost.
Quote from: Scott5114 on June 19, 2023, 04:51:25 PM
A place that cold is bound to have a permafrost layer in its soil. If it did warm, the permafrost would melt, making every building in town unstable.
Yakutsk is built on permafrost. And it has warm summers, warmer than Helsinki.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on June 19, 2023, 04:55:21 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on June 19, 2023, 04:51:25 PM
A place that cold is bound to have a permafrost layer in its soil. If it did warm, the permafrost would melt, making every building in town unstable.
Yakutsk is built on permafrost. And it has warm summers, warmer than Helsinki.
It would need to be warmer than that to attract a significant population. The number of people who enjoy a climate cold enough to support year-round permafrost is very low.
Quote from: Scott5114 on June 19, 2023, 07:53:29 PM
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Quote from: Scott5114 on June 19, 2023, 04:51:25 PM
A place that cold is bound to have a permafrost layer in its soil. If it did warm, the permafrost would melt, making every building in town unstable.
Yakutsk is built on permafrost. And it has warm summers, warmer than Helsinki.
It would need to be warmer than that to attract a significant population. The number of pe
ople who enjoy a climate cold enough to support year-round permafrost is very low.
There are always economic reasons behind cities. Being a port in a mild climate with ample agriculture is a no brainer. Others may be less obvious.
In case of Yakutsk that reason is diamonds.
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Quote from: Poiponen13 on June 19, 2023, 04:55:21 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on June 19, 2023, 04:51:25 PM
A place that cold is bound to have a permafrost layer in its soil. If it did warm, the permafrost would melt, making every building in town unstable.
Yakutsk is built on permafrost. And it has warm summers, warmer than Helsinki.
It would need to be warmer than that to attract a significant population. The number of pe
ople who enjoy a climate cold enough to support year-round permafrost is very low.
There are always economic reasons behind cities. Being a port in a mild climate with ample agriculture is a no brainer. Others may be less obvious.
In case of Yakutsk that reason is diamonds.
See also Murmansk...
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Quote from: Scott5114 on June 19, 2023, 04:51:25 PM
A place that cold is bound to have a permafrost layer in its soil. If it did warm, the permafrost would melt, making every building in town unstable.
Yakutsk is built on permafrost. And it has warm summers, warmer than Helsinki.
It would need to be warmer than that to attract a significant population. The number of people who enjoy a climate cold enough to support year-round permafrost is very low.
There are always economic reasons behind cities. Being a port in a mild climate with ample agriculture is a no brainer. Others may be less obvious.
In case of Yakutsk that reason is diamonds.
Hence my question:
Quote from: kphoger on June 19, 2023, 12:20:55 PM
How many people would still be moving to Yakutsk, if you took away the diamond mines?
You could be asking the same about Phoenix...
Quote from: 1 on June 20, 2023, 10:08:00 AM
You could be asking the same about Phoenix...
Phoenix at least has a climate that retirees tend to like and semi-interesting scenery. Nobody wants to live in a cold, barren, flat wasteland with no natural resources.
Remine me again. What are the coordinates of the new and glorious city of Souky?
Quote from: kphoger on June 20, 2023, 11:22:32 AM
Remine me again. What are the coordinates of the new and glorious city of Souky?
72.40N, 118.00W.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on June 20, 2023, 11:26:36 AM
Quote from: kphoger on June 20, 2023, 11:22:32 AM
Remine me again. What are the coordinates of the new and glorious city of Souky?
72.40N, 118.00W.
Ah, thank you.
I see that somewhat-nearby Holman (now officially called Ulukhaktok) had no permanent population until the Hudson's Bay Company opened a store there, and that the population has never reached 500 during its history. Its economy has historically consisted chiefly of (1) the sale of craft products made from local materials like sealskin, which continues today, especially printmaking, and (2) the trade of natural resources such as furs, which dropped off significantly in the last century.
Why has this town not already attracted people to move there and swell its size? Why would Souky do better?
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Quote from: Poiponen13 on June 20, 2023, 11:26:36 AM
Quote from: kphoger on June 20, 2023, 11:22:32 AM
Remine me again. What are the coordinates of the new and glorious city of Souky?
72.40N, 118.00W.
Ah, thank you.
I see that somewhat-nearby Holman (now officially called Ulukhaktok) had no permanent population until the Hudson's Bay Company opened a store there, and that the population has never reached 500 during its history. Its economy has historically consisted chiefly of (1) the sale of craft products made from local materials like sealskin, which continues today, especially printmaking, and (2) the trade of natural resources such as furs, which dropped off significantly in the last century.
Why has this town not already attracted people to move there and swell its size? Why would Souky do better?
I didn't know about this town. Souky would be new city form scratch, which would be very fast-expanding.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on June 20, 2023, 12:00:35 PM
I didn't know about this town. Souky would be new city form scratch, which would be very fast-expanding.
Why would a new city from scratch expand faster than an already-existing town? What would draw people to Souky that isn't already drawing them to Holman?
Quote from: kphoger on June 20, 2023, 12:27:58 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on June 20, 2023, 12:00:35 PM
I didn't know about this town. Souky would be new city form scratch, which would be very fast-expanding.
Why would a new city from scratch expand faster than an already-existing town? What would draw people to Souky that isn't already drawing them to Holman?
Because Souky is more attractive.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on June 20, 2023, 12:30:43 PM
Quote from: kphoger on June 20, 2023, 12:27:58 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on June 20, 2023, 12:00:35 PM
I didn't know about this town. Souky would be new city form scratch, which would be very fast-expanding.
Why would a new city from scratch expand faster than an already-existing town? What would draw people to Souky that isn't already drawing them to Holman?
Because Souky is more attractive.
What about it would be more attractive?
Quote from: kphoger on June 20, 2023, 12:32:53 PM
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Quote from: kphoger on June 20, 2023, 12:27:58 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on June 20, 2023, 12:00:35 PM
I didn't know about this town. Souky would be new city form scratch, which would be very fast-expanding.
Why would a new city from scratch expand faster than an already-existing town? What would draw people to Souky that isn't already drawing them to Holman?
Because Souky is more attractive.
What about it would be more attractive?
Longer midnight sun and polar night, as well as civil polar night, what Holman doesn't experience.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on June 20, 2023, 12:36:00 PM
Longer midnight sun and polar night, as well as civil polar night, what Holman doesn't experience.
If midnight sun and polar night aren't already attracting people to move to Holman (or Arctic Bay or Pond Inlet or Resolute or Grise Fiord, all of which are farther north than Souky would be), then why would longer ones attract people to move to Souky?
Quote from: kphoger on June 20, 2023, 12:43:02 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on June 20, 2023, 12:36:00 PM
Longer midnight sun and polar night, as well as civil polar night, what Holman doesn't experience.
If midnight sun and polar night aren't already attracting people to move to Holman (or Arctic Bay or Pond Inlet or Resolute or Grise Fiord, all of which are farther north than Souky would be), then why would longer ones attract people to move to Souky?
I just had a thought of of city with 300,000 people at 72.40N. At least it would see 92-day midnight sun, 76-day polar night and 10-day civil polar night.
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I didn't know about this town. Souky would be new city form scratch, which would be very fast-expanding.
Why would a new city from scratch expand faster than an already-existing town? What would draw people to Souky that isn't already drawing them to Holman?
Because Souky is more attractive.
What about it would be more attractive?
Longer midnight sun and polar night, as well as civil polar night, what Holman doesn't experience.
Oh, so you suggest treating polar night as regular night time, so residents would be hibernating for 3-4-5 months a year?
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I didn't know about this town. Souky would be new city form scratch, which would be very fast-expanding.
Why would a new city from scratch expand faster than an already-existing town? What would draw people to Souky that isn't already drawing them to Holman?
Because Souky is more attractive.
What about it would be more attractive?
Longer midnight sun and polar night, as well as civil polar night, what Holman doesn't experience.
Oh, so you suggest treating polar night as regular night time, so residents would be hibernating for 3-4-5 months a year?
Then sun does not rise and brightest stars can be seen during midday. Life would go normal.
Quote from: CoreySamson on June 20, 2023, 11:17:57 AM
Quote from: 1 on June 20, 2023, 10:08:00 AM
You could be asking the same about Phoenix...
Phoenix at least has a climate that retirees tend to like and semi-interesting scenery. Nobody wants to live in a cold, barren, flat wasteland with no natural resources.
Retirees like places where you have to saran wrap toilets to keep the water from evaporating?
Quote from: Poiponen13 on June 20, 2023, 01:37:10 PM
Then sun does not rise ...
Most people don't want that, if given the choice.
Quote from: Rothman on June 20, 2023, 01:39:57 PM
Retirees like places where you have to saran wrap toilets to keep the water from evaporating?
Yes, many retirees like warm, dry weather. Or, rather, they dislike cold, humid weather. Some are even encouraged by their doctors.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on June 20, 2023, 12:30:43 PM
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I didn't know about this town. Souky would be new city form scratch, which would be very fast-expanding.
Why would a new city from scratch expand faster than an already-existing town? What would draw people to Souky that isn't already drawing them to Holman?
Because Souky is more attractive.
Wait, Souky is attractive? Is she attractive the same way John Madden and Booger Queen are?
Come, nothing is more attractive than Sault Sainte John Madden.
Quote from: kphoger on June 20, 2023, 02:03:39 PM
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Then sun does not rise ...
Most people don't want that, if given the choice.
I mean, I wouldn't mind it, since I'm nocturnal anyway. But then again there are already-existing cities with warmer climates that cater to a nocturnal lifestyle, like New York City and Las Vegas.
Quote from: Rothman on June 20, 2023, 01:39:57 PM
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Quote from: 1 on June 20, 2023, 10:08:00 AM
You could be asking the same about Phoenix...
Phoenix at least has a climate that retirees tend to like and semi-interesting scenery. Nobody wants to live in a cold, barren, flat wasteland with no natural resources.
Retirees like places where you have to saran wrap toilets to keep the water from evaporating?
Is that what they told you when you had your toilet saran wrapped? And lemme guess, the people that egged and TP'd your house said they tripped and fell on the way back from the grocery store?
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Most people don't want that
I mean, I wouldn't mind it
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Most
I'm most people. I'm you, for instance.
Or Sachs Harbour, Holman, Resolute, Arctic Bay, Grise Fiord, Eureka and Alert should just expand greatly with havung over 50,000 people without having a new city.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on June 24, 2023, 09:32:18 AM
Or Sachs Harbour, Holman, Resolute, Arctic Bay, Grise Fiord, Alanland and Alert should just expand greatly with havung over 50,000 people without having a new city.
FTFY
Sounds like we are on the verge having to call Eureka PD...
Quote from: 1 on June 24, 2023, 09:36:48 AM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on June 24, 2023, 09:32:18 AM
Or Sachs Harbour, Holman, Resolute, Arctic Bay, Grise Fiord, Alanland and Alert should just expand greatly with havung over 50,000 people without having a new city.
FTFY
Eureka, NU, not Eureka, CA ("Alanland").
Quote from: kphoger on June 26, 2023, 09:30:13 AM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on June 24, 2023, 09:32:18 AM
... should just expand greatly ...
Explain why.
An alternative to Souky proposal. I want larger cities to Arctic.
Quote from: kalvado on June 26, 2023, 09:40:58 AM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on June 26, 2023, 09:31:57 AM
Quote from: kphoger on June 26, 2023, 09:30:13 AM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on June 24, 2023, 09:32:18 AM
... should just expand greatly ...
Explain why.
An alternative to Souky proposal. I want larger cities to Arctic.
well, but can you
Quote from: kphoger on June 26, 2023, 09:30:13 AM
Explain why.
Because I would like to see a large city in extreme conditions - midnight sun, polar night, very cold winter, cool summer, very hot summer, very rainy, very dry.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on June 26, 2023, 09:46:06 AM
Quote from: kalvado on June 26, 2023, 09:40:58 AM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on June 26, 2023, 09:31:57 AM
Quote from: kphoger on June 26, 2023, 09:30:13 AM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on June 24, 2023, 09:32:18 AM
... should just expand greatly ...
Explain why.
An alternative to Souky proposal. I want larger cities to Arctic.
well, but can you
Quote from: kphoger on June 26, 2023, 09:30:13 AM
Explain why.
Because I would like to see a large city in extreme conditions - midnight sun, polar night, very cold winter, cool summer, very hot summer, very rainy, very dry.
hm, sounds like you want concentration camps for experiments on humans....
Idea for a new city: I-93 near (new) exit 42 in Massachusetts would be called "Naranja" (taking a small part of Andover), with the J pronounced as it is in English. It would have a permanent population of about 2000, with its main claim to fame being a La Quinta hotel, two restaurants (Chili's and The Chateau), a Mobil with a Dunkin inside, and some office buildings. It would be a control city on I-93.
Quote from: kalvado on June 26, 2023, 09:50:34 AM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on June 26, 2023, 09:46:06 AM
Quote from: kalvado on June 26, 2023, 09:40:58 AM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on June 26, 2023, 09:31:57 AM
Quote from: kphoger on June 26, 2023, 09:30:13 AM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on June 24, 2023, 09:32:18 AM
... should just expand greatly ...
Explain why.
An alternative to Souky proposal. I want larger cities to Arctic.
well, but can you
Quote from: kphoger on June 26, 2023, 09:30:13 AM
Explain why.
Because I would like to see a large city in extreme conditions - midnight sun, polar night, very cold winter, cool summer, very hot summer, very rainy, very dry.
hm, sounds like you want concentration camps for experiments on humans....
Of course not, these are pioneers expanding the frontier and definitely not some Arctic Island Gulag.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on June 26, 2023, 10:16:22 AM
Quote from: kalvado on June 26, 2023, 09:50:34 AM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on June 26, 2023, 09:46:06 AM
Quote from: kalvado on June 26, 2023, 09:40:58 AM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on June 26, 2023, 09:31:57 AM
Quote from: kphoger on June 26, 2023, 09:30:13 AM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on June 24, 2023, 09:32:18 AM
... should just expand greatly ...
Explain why.
An alternative to Souky proposal. I want larger cities to Arctic.
well, but can you
Quote from: kphoger on June 26, 2023, 09:30:13 AM
Explain why.
Because I would like to see a large city in extreme conditions - midnight sun, polar night, very cold winter, cool summer, very hot summer, very rainy, very dry.
hm, sounds like you want concentration camps for experiments on humans....
Of course not, these are pioneers expanding the frontier and definitely not some Arctic Island Gulag.
Make Thule great again!
Climate was milder back then, as far as I understand.
Quote from: 1 on June 26, 2023, 09:57:46 AM
Idea for a new city: I-93 near (new) exit 42 in Massachusetts would be called "Naranja" (taking a small part of Andover), with the J pronounced as it is in English. It would have a permanent population of about 2000, with its main claim to fame being a La Quinta hotel, two restaurants (Chili's and The Chateau), a Mobil with a Dunkin inside, and some office buildings. It would be a control city on I-93.
This city would be in too normal climate.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on June 26, 2023, 11:06:55 AM
This city would be in too normal climate.
Says who? This isn't your own private thread.
Quote from: 1 on June 26, 2023, 09:57:46 AM
Idea for a new city: I-93 near (new) exit 42 in Massachusetts would be called "Naranja" (taking a small part of Andover), with the J pronounced as it is in English. It would have a permanent population of about 2000, with its main claim to fame being a La Quinta hotel, two restaurants (Chili's and The Chateau), a Mobil with a Dunkin inside, and some office buildings. It would be a control city on I-93.
There's a parallel universe where it's called Uva (https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Uva_Academy) instead.
New cities could be constructed on KOI-5715.01. To have similar population density as Grand Forks, North Dakota. I don't like that exoplanets have way, way lower population density that planet Earth. For example, the solar system has 8,000,000,000 people and is located in the Milky Way galaxy. Earth is largest planet with population, but it has all 8,000,000,000 people. By the way, Earth is largest planet in the solar system entirely between Venus and Mars (Uranus, which is larger, is farther away). Orange dwarf star and much greater greenhouse effect would be nice to see in large cities, so I propose large cities to exoplanets where they exist. Jomulkanna is example of such city.
Quote from: kphoger on June 26, 2023, 12:21:05 PM
New cities could be constructed on KOI-5715.01. To have similar population density as Grand Forks, North Dakota. I don't like that exoplanets have way, way lower population density that planet Earth. For example, the solar system has 8,000,000,000 people and is located in the Milky Way galaxy. Earth is largest planet with population, but it has all 8,000,000,000 people. By the way, Earth is largest planet in the solar system entirely between Venus and Mars (Uranus, which is larger, is farther away). Orange dwarf star and much greater greenhouse effect would be nice to see in large cities, so I propose large cities to exoplanets where they exist. Jomulkanna is example of such city.
You're writing it as a resident of a tiny abandoned provincial planet with extremely limited awareness.
I saw a story of a galaxy empire on TV, and they cannot lie!
Quote from: kphoger on June 26, 2023, 12:21:05 PM
New cities could be constructed on KOI-5715.01. To have similar population density as Grand Forks, North Dakota. I don't like that exoplanets have way, way lower population density that planet Earth. For example, the solar system has 8,000,000,000 people and is located in the Milky Way galaxy. Earth is largest planet with population, but it has all 8,000,000,000 people. By the way, Earth is largest planet in the solar system entirely between Venus and Mars (Uranus, which is larger, is farther away). Orange dwarf star and much greater greenhouse effect would be nice to see in large cities, so I propose large cities to exoplanets where they exist. Jomulkanna is example of such city.
I can't take it anymore!!! Why you again mimicked my post, this time this thread's opening post??
Quote from: Poiponen13 on June 26, 2023, 12:29:03 PM
I can't take it anymore!!! Why you again mimicked my post, this time this thread's opening post??
An alternative to Souky proposal. I want larger cities to outer space.
Quote from: kphoger on June 26, 2023, 12:57:24 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on June 26, 2023, 12:29:03 PM
I can't take it anymore!!! Why you again mimicked my post, this time this thread's opening post??
An alternative to Souky proposal. I want larger cities to outer space.
Not to the space!!! Only to Earth!!!
Quote from: Poiponen13 on June 26, 2023, 01:02:11 PM
Not to the space!!! Only to Earth!!!
Because I would like to see a large city in extreme conditions - orange dwarf star, lower planetary surface temperature, greater atmospheric greenhouse effect. Jomulkanna would have a Burge King. Jomulkanna is not "Soviet". But it could warm.
KOI-5554.01 could support cities.
Or lake to Las Vegas. Booger Queen Lake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: Poiponen13 on June 26, 2023, 01:02:11 PM
Quote from: kphoger on June 26, 2023, 12:57:24 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on June 26, 2023, 12:29:03 PM
I can't take it anymore!!! Why you again mimicked my post, this time this thread's opening post??
An alternative to Souky proposal. I want larger cities to outer space.
Not to the space!!! Only to Earth!!!
New cities could be constructed on the bottom of the ocean.. To have a similar population density as Grand Forks, North Dakota. I don't like that sea bottom has way, way lower population density than continents or islands. For example, Europe has about 500,000,000 people and is located barely above sea level. Titan was the largest civilian object on the seabed with a population of mere 5 people. Saltwater and high ambient pressure would be nice to see in large cities, so I propose large cities to depths where they can be seen. Tit is an example of such a city to be named after Titanic and Titan.
Another idea for a city name: Alexicol. With the famous (or infamous?) Alexicol Police. Try saying it out loud (actually don't; I'm serious) and see what happens...
Poiponen13, you're at 37 of 32.
Quote from: kphoger on June 26, 2023, 01:10:44 PM
Or lake to Las Vegas.
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.136817,-114.7629897,11.25z?entry=ttu
Quote from: kphoger on June 26, 2023, 12:21:05 PM
New cities could be constructed on KOI-5715.01. To have similar population density as Grand Forks, North Dakota. I don't like that exoplanets have way, way lower population density that planet Earth. For example, the solar system has 8,000,000,000 people and is located in the Milky Way galaxy. Earth is largest planet with population, but it has all 8,000,000,000 people. By the way, Earth is largest planet in the solar system entirely between Venus and Mars (Uranus, which is larger, is farther away). Orange dwarf star and much greater greenhouse effect would be nice to see in large cities, so I propose large cities to exoplanets where they exist. Jomulkanna is example of such city.
What was that?
"ChatGPT, please describe new cities in outer space as P13 would."
Quote from: kphoger on June 26, 2023, 12:21:05 PM
New cities could be constructed on KOI-5715.01. To have similar population density as Grand Forks, North Dakota. I don't like that exoplanets have way, way lower population density that planet Earth. For example, the solar system has 8,000,000,000 people and is located in the Milky Way galaxy. Earth is largest planet with population, but it has all 8,000,000,000 people. By the way, Earth is largest planet in the solar system entirely between Venus and Mars (Uranus, which is larger, is farther away). Orange dwarf star and much greater greenhouse effect would be nice to see in large cities, so I propose large cities to exoplanets where they exist. Jomulkanna is example of such city.
Quote from: GaryV on June 26, 2023, 08:37:56 PM
What was that?
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Quote from: Poiponen13 on June 26, 2023, 12:29:03 PM
... mimicked ... this thread's opening post