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Title: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: ZLoth on February 26, 2025, 10:27:26 AM
What is in store for the NFL MMXXV season?
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: mgk920 on February 26, 2025, 11:05:37 AM
The Draft in a few weeks.

 :cool:

Mike
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: webny99 on February 26, 2025, 01:06:30 PM
More playoff heartbreak for the Buffalo Bills.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: Hunty2022 on February 26, 2025, 01:28:59 PM
It's the year of the Dallas Cowboys again.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: noelbotevera on February 26, 2025, 11:26:10 PM
Maybe it's time for the NFL to relocate a well-loved, historic franchise like the Dolphins to Toronto. After all, it's the "National" Football League, right???

(Roger Goodell, if you're seeing this, please don't do this. I'm not a Dolphins fan but nobody likes the Chargers in LA or the "Oakland" Raiders in Vegas.)

((Goodell probably cares more about an 18 game regular season than league expansion TBH because $$$.))
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: Henry on February 27, 2025, 10:51:25 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on February 26, 2025, 11:26:10 PMMaybe it's time for the NFL to relocate a well-loved, historic franchise like the Dolphins to Toronto. After all, it's the "National" Football League, right???

(Roger Goodell, if you're seeing this, please don't do this. I'm not a Dolphins fan but nobody likes the Chargers in LA or the "Oakland" Raiders in Vegas.)

((Goodell probably cares more about an 18 game regular season than league expansion TBH because $$$.))
Maybe they can absorb the CFL teams, and then we'd have all four of the major pro leagues with teams north of the border!

I remember when nobody liked the L.A. Rams in St. Louis, so they were moved back to their rightful home. It may not be their original city (Cleveland is), but it's the one that makes the most sense.

On a more serious note, the league is perfect where it is now, so if I were Goodell, I would prioritize the 18-game schedule over expansion.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: SEWIGuy on February 28, 2025, 09:19:13 AM
Quote from: Henry on February 27, 2025, 10:51:25 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on February 26, 2025, 11:26:10 PMMaybe it's time for the NFL to relocate a well-loved, historic franchise like the Dolphins to Toronto. After all, it's the "National" Football League, right???

(Roger Goodell, if you're seeing this, please don't do this. I'm not a Dolphins fan but nobody likes the Chargers in LA or the "Oakland" Raiders in Vegas.)

((Goodell probably cares more about an 18 game regular season than league expansion TBH because $$$.))
Maybe they can absorb the CFL teams, and then we'd have all four of the major pro leagues with teams north of the border!

I remember when nobody liked the L.A. Rams in St. Louis, so they were moved back to their rightful home. It may not be their original city (Cleveland is), but it's the one that makes the most sense.

On a more serious note, the league is perfect where it is now, so if I were Goodell, I would prioritize the 18-game schedule over expansion.


You can't hold cities hostage for new and improved stadiums if teams don't have options to skip town for somewhere else.

Regardless, the NFL doesn't really need more teams because so much of the revenue is based on media rights versus game attendance. And while an extra game or two a week will result in more media money, that money will need to be shared with two additional franchises. It's easier to create that revenue with an additional week - and maybe a second bye.

Anyway, I don't mind the Las Vegas Raiders. The Oakland Colesium had become a terrible NFL venue.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: epzik8 on March 02, 2025, 11:37:17 AM
Having Deebo Samuel in Landover could be either fun or boring.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: jgb191 on March 04, 2025, 11:02:31 AM
Quote from: ZLoth on February 26, 2025, 10:27:26 AMWhat is in store for the NFL MMXXV season?


Perhaps the Texans can tie their franchise record 12 wins this fall (slightly less difficult schedule than last season -- slightly is the key word).
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: webny99 on March 06, 2025, 02:43:40 PM
The Bears aren't messing around with Ben Johnson at the helm, trading for two guards in two days to help protect Caleb Williams.

https://www.nfl.com/news/joe-thuney-bears-chiefs-trade

Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: ZLoth on March 06, 2025, 03:12:06 PM
From Bleacher Report:

Jimmy Johnson Retires from NFL on Fox Role; Won 2 Super Bowls as Cowboys HC
QuoteHall of Fame head coach Jimmy Johnson announced Monday he's retiring from his on-air role with Fox Sports.

Johnson said on The Herd with Colin Cowherd he has contemplated stepping away from broadcasting "for the last four or five years" and decided it's the right time.
FULL ARTICLE HERE (https://bleacherreport.com/articles/25166347-jimmy-johnson-retires-nfl-fox-role-won-2-super-bowls-cowboys-hc)

Now, all we need is Terry Bradshaw to retire as well. I like both Jimmy and Terry, but I also think that age is catching up to Terry as well.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: Great Lakes Roads on March 07, 2025, 09:23:46 PM
Geno Smith has been traded from the Seahawks to the Raiders.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: Big John on March 09, 2025, 07:16:09 PM
Devante Adams signs a 2-year contract with the Rams.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: Great Lakes Roads on March 09, 2025, 08:27:12 PM
And the Steelers get DK Metcalf from the Seahawks...
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: mgk920 on March 10, 2025, 09:13:35 AM
Right now I consider it way better than even that Aaron Rodgers will be out of the NFL after the current round of free agency is complete (but you never know if a team is THAT desperate for an 'experienced' quarterback).

Mike
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: Great Lakes Roads on March 10, 2025, 03:01:31 PM
QB Justin Fields going to the Jets for a 2-year, $40 million contract...
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: JayhawkCO on March 10, 2025, 04:00:40 PM
Quote from: mgk920 on March 10, 2025, 09:13:35 AMRight now I consider it way better than even that Aaron Rodgers will be out of the NFL after the current round of free agency is complete (but you never know if a team is THAT desperate for an 'experienced' quarterback).

Mike

He's going to either Pittsburgh or the Giants.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: ET21 on March 11, 2025, 10:29:02 AM
I'll be curious what the Bears do with the 10th pick now that the O-line has gotten a good overhaul.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: JayhawkCO on March 11, 2025, 10:38:24 AM
My Vikings are being very active in free agency for the interior of both the offensive and defensive lines. Also signed two corners. This is my ideal kind of free agency window. We also let Darnold walk so that we could actually afford those players. Had we signed him, most of those signings would have been impossible under the cap.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: epzik8 on March 13, 2025, 03:34:34 PM
Would really love to hear Kenny Pickett's honest thoughts about having to be in a QB room with Deshaun Watson.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: NWI_Irish96 on March 13, 2025, 03:48:58 PM
Quote from: ET21 on March 11, 2025, 10:29:02 AMI'll be curious what the Bears do with the 10th pick now that the O-line has gotten a good overhaul.

Better be DT, DE or OT. They are pretty well set everywhere else. Need one more WR but you can get good ones in the 2nd-3rd rounds.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: webny99 on April 03, 2025, 08:45:56 AM
Figured it should be mentioned that the NFL's postseason overtime rule allowing both teams to possess the ball in overtime is being expanded to the regular season, among other rule changes: https://apnews.com/article/nfl-rules-explainer-kickoff-05f6952530dbcc772f62190cad9d1ad6

And it makes sense. Once the chance was implemented without issue in the postseason, it seemed pretty much inevitable that it would eventually be implemented in the regular season too.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: SEWIGuy on April 03, 2025, 09:09:33 AM
My sports hot take is that ties are fine in the NFL. So the each team guaranteed a possession and a ten minute OT works for me.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: hotdogPi on April 03, 2025, 09:24:35 AM
There are ways to avoid complicated overtime rules in any sport.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: SEWIGuy on April 03, 2025, 09:34:28 AM
Quote from: hotdogPi on April 03, 2025, 09:24:35 AMThere are ways to avoid complicated overtime rules in any sport.
  • Continue as if the game didn't end. The next team to score wins. (Baseball: already done as much as inning structure allows. Soccer and hockey: already done, and I support hockey's 3-on-3 rule. Basketball: no break after the timer hits 0; just continue play that will likely last under two minutes. Football: no break after the timer hits 0 except for a possible commercial break, and the ball position doesn't reset.)
  • Whoever was most recently ahead wins if there's a tie when the timer hits 0. Only works for games that never end 0-0; football, basketball, lacrosse, and handball would all work with this rule.
  • Tie. Ideally 1/3 of a win rather than 1/2 to discourage draw by agreement.


I think soccer generally has it right with 3 points for a win and 1 point for a tie...er...draw.

The NBA and MLB simply don't have ties. The NFL does, which is why I don't think its that big of a deal when a game ends this way.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: jgb191 on April 03, 2025, 09:44:30 AM
I actually like the new OT rules, where the team that lost the coin toss should get one chance to match the TD if the team that won the coin toss scored on their initial possession, then sudden death.  If the second offense fails to match the TD, then the game is over.

As for the playoff revision proposed by the Detroit Lions, I actually like the idea of better record host the playoff game in the Wild Card game....it is that way in the remaining rounds of the playoffs (before the Super Bowl) where better record hosts the game.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: webny99 on April 03, 2025, 09:46:06 AM
Quote from: jgb191 on April 03, 2025, 09:44:30 AMAs for the playoff revision proposed by the Detroit Lions, I actually like the idea of better record host the playoff game in the Wild Card game....it is that way in the remaining rounds of the playoffs (before the Super Bowl) where better record hosts the game.

I have mixed feelings about this only because divisions and division rivalries are partly what make the NFL stand out from other sports, and this would significantly reduce the importance of winning the division.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: NWI_Irish96 on April 03, 2025, 09:55:55 AM
Quote from: jgb191 on April 03, 2025, 09:44:30 AMI actually like the new OT rules, where the team that lost the coin toss should get one chance to match the TD if the team that won the coin toss scored on their initial possession, then sudden death.  If the second offense fails to match the TD, then the game is over.

As for the playoff revision proposed by the Detroit Lions, I actually like the idea of better record host the playoff game in the Wild Card game....it is that way in the remaining rounds of the playoffs (before the Super Bowl) where better record hosts the game.

I prefer eliminating overtime completely by adopting a modified soccer points system.

3 points for a win. However, instead of giving each team 1 point for a tie, the team that was most recently ahead gets 2 points and the other team 1 point. (There hasn't been a 0-0 tie in decades, but just in case each team would only get 1 point.)

Makes late game strategy really fun.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: SEWIGuy on April 03, 2025, 12:03:17 PM
Quote from: jgb191 on April 03, 2025, 09:44:30 AMI actually like the new OT rules, where the team that lost the coin toss should get one chance to match the TD if the team that won the coin toss scored on their initial possession, then sudden death.  If the second offense fails to match the TD, then the game is over.

As for the playoff revision proposed by the Detroit Lions, I actually like the idea of better record host the playoff game in the Wild Card game....it is that way in the remaining rounds of the playoffs (before the Super Bowl) where better record hosts the game.


Agreed. I also think that if a division winner can't get to .500, they shouldn't qualify for the playoffs. That means an additional wild card team qualifies instead. (Unless there are no other wild card teams .500 or above.)
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: JayhawkCO on April 03, 2025, 12:04:11 PM
I want the Elam ending.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: SEWIGuy on April 03, 2025, 12:24:25 PM
Quote from: JayhawkCO on April 03, 2025, 12:04:11 PMI want the Elam ending.

After watching a few games with this...it really wasn't that great. I think there are better ways to speed up the end of basketball games anyway.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: thspfc on April 03, 2025, 12:25:11 PM
Quote from: jgb191 on April 03, 2025, 09:44:30 AMit is that way in the remaining rounds of the playoffs (before the Super Bowl) where better record hosts the game.
Higher seed always hosts. The 10-7 Rams would have hosted the NFC title game vs. 12-5 Washington if they beat the Eagles.

The last time the home team had the worse record in a non-wild card playoff game was the 2018 AFC divisional, where the 12-4 Chargers visited the 11-5 Patriots.

Quote from: JayhawkCO on April 03, 2025, 12:04:11 PMI want the Elam ending.
In football? God no.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: NWI_Irish96 on April 03, 2025, 12:28:32 PM
Quote from: thspfc on April 03, 2025, 12:25:11 PMHigher seed always hosts. The 10-7 Rams would have hosted the NFC title game vs. 12-5 Washington if they beat the Eagles.


Would have to have been played elsewhere though, likely Arizona.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: JayhawkCO on April 03, 2025, 12:32:57 PM
Quote from: thspfc on April 03, 2025, 12:25:11 PM
Quote from: JayhawkCO on April 03, 2025, 12:04:11 PMI want the Elam ending.
In football? God no.

T'was a joke. Obviously not enough scoring in football to even do a variation of it.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: mgk920 on April 03, 2025, 01:31:11 PM
Quote from: webny99 on April 03, 2025, 08:45:56 AMFigured it should be mentioned that the NFL's postseason overtime rule allowing both teams to possess the ball in overtime is being expanded to the regular season, among other rule changes: https://apnews.com/article/nfl-rules-explainer-kickoff-05f6952530dbcc772f62190cad9d1ad6

And it makes sense. Once the chance was implemented without issue in the postseason, it seemed pretty much inevitable that it would eventually be implemented in the regular season too.

I also note that a touchback will now be placed on the 35 YL instead of the 30, this to discourage kickers from booming the ball into the end zone (It should be placed on the 40 - MGK).

Mike
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: jgb191 on April 03, 2025, 01:36:33 PM
If you want to stress winning the division, how about this:  After the final week of the regular season, the following weekend the top seed in each division would host the second-best record in the division (instead of a second-place team in another division) in a Division Championship Game.  The winner of all those games would be officially crowned Division Champions and advance to the second round.  Then seed each of those winners according to regular season records and tiebreaker rules:  the best record would host the 4th best and the 2nd best record-holder would host the 3rd best.  The winner of those two games would meet in the Conference Championship Game and the team with the better record hosts that game.

This idea I really think truly emphasizes winning the division, while still rewarding better records all the way through.  Personally I prefer division winner only clinch playoff spots and seed playoff teams according to best regular season records; the best seven records in each conference makes the playoffs....if three teams in one division (NFC North & AFC West) are among the top seven records and all three are in the playoffs.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: epzik8 on April 03, 2025, 01:37:48 PM
Quote from: jgb191 on April 03, 2025, 09:44:30 AMAs for the playoff revision proposed by the Detroit Lions,

NFL teams sure do love advocating for playoff rule changes when they're inconvenienced.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: SEWIGuy on April 03, 2025, 01:50:42 PM
Quote from: jgb191 on April 03, 2025, 01:36:33 PMIf you want to stress winning the division, how about this:  After the final week of the regular season, the following weekend the top seed in each division would host the second-best record in the division (instead of a second-place team in another division) in a Division Championship Game.  The winner of all those games would be officially crowned Division Champions and advance to the second round.  Then seed each of those winners according to regular season records and tiebreaker rules:  the best record would host the 4th best and the 2nd best record-holder would host the 3rd best.  The winner of those two games would meet in the Conference Championship Game and the team with the better record hosts that game.

This idea I really think truly emphasizes winning the division, while still rewarding better records all the way through.  Personally I prefer division winner only clinch playoff spots and seed playoff teams according to best regular season records; the best seven records in each conference makes the playoffs....if three teams in one division (NFC North & AFC West) are among the top seven records and all three are in the playoffs.


I, for one, am not all that impressed by a division championship. They only have four teams each, which is convenient for scheduling purposes, but outside of that is rather meaningless. So cool... you are one of the 25% of teams who won their division. Tremendous accomplishment...  :crazy:  :crazy:  :crazy:

The Packers have won their division 21 times. You won't find reference to that anywhere inside of Lambeau Field.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: NWI_Irish96 on April 03, 2025, 01:59:30 PM
Here would be a fun way to shake things up and also make winning divisions more of an accomplishment.

1) Eliminate conferences.

2) Merge the geographic partner divisions to create four 8-team divisions.

3) Each year, you play your original division opponents 2x each and the other teams 1x each. The other 7 opponents are out of division (several options for structuring this).

4) The best record, after applying tiebreakers, is the division champion and gets a playoff seed of 1-4.

5) The best record FROM THE OPPOSING GROUP OF FOUR, after applying tiebreakers, in each division is the division sub-champion and gets a playoff seed of 5-8.

6) The next 6 best records, after applying tiebreakers, get playoff seeds 9-14.

Seeds 1-2 get byes. First round games match 3 vs 14, 4 vs 13, etc. No re-seeding after the first round.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: thspfc on April 03, 2025, 02:03:06 PM
Quote from: jgb191 on April 03, 2025, 01:36:33 PMIf you want to stress winning the division, how about this:  After the final week of the regular season, the following weekend the top seed in each division would host the second-best record in the division (instead of a second-place team in another division) in a Division Championship Game.  The winner of all those games would be officially crowned Division Champions and advance to the second round.  Then seed each of those winners according to regular season records and tiebreaker rules:  the best record would host the 4th best and the 2nd best record-holder would host the 3rd best.  The winner of those two games would meet in the Conference Championship Game and the team with the better record hosts that game.

This idea I really think truly emphasizes winning the division, while still rewarding better records all the way through.  Personally I prefer division winner only clinch playoff spots and seed playoff teams according to best regular season records; the best seven records in each conference makes the playoffs....if three teams in one division (NFC North & AFC West) are among the top seven records and all three are in the playoffs.
This is too far in the opposite direction - it puts too much emphasis on divisions.

Looking at last season, the Lions would have hosted the Vikings for the second week in a row, and the Bucs would have played the Falcons for a spot in the next round while the Packers sat at home. I know all those teams went one and done anyway, but that doesn't make it less absurd. And the NFC championship would have happened in the "division championship" instead.

As long as we're throwing out proposals to "fix" the playoffs, I'll cast my vote for changing nothing.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: thenetwork on April 22, 2025, 10:38:34 PM
Here is a fun fact regarding sports and Pope Francis:

During Pope Francis' time as Pope (about the last 12 years), Every MLB, NBA, and NFL sports team has played in at least ONE post-season playoff game...

EXCEPT for one...

The New York Jets.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: jlam on April 22, 2025, 11:51:31 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on April 22, 2025, 10:38:34 PMHere is a fun fact regarding sports and Pope Francis:

During Pope Francis' time as Pope (about the last 12 years), Every MLB, NBA, and NFL sports team has played in at least ONE post-season playoff game...

EXCEPT for one...

The New York Jets.

That excludes the NHL and the Sabres, but pathetic nonetheless.

In addition to the Jets, three other NFL teams hadn't won a playoff game during the tenure of Pope Francis: the Dolphins, Raiders, and Bears. In the Dolphins' and Raiders' cases, you have to go all the way back to John Paul II.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: Henry on April 23, 2025, 12:11:41 AM
Quote from: jlam on April 22, 2025, 11:51:31 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on April 22, 2025, 10:38:34 PMHere is a fun fact regarding sports and Pope Francis:

During Pope Francis' time as Pope (about the last 12 years), Every MLB, NBA, and NFL sports team has played in at least ONE post-season playoff game...

EXCEPT for one...

The New York Jets.

That excludes the NHL and the Sabres, but pathetic nonetheless.

In addition to the Jets, three other NFL teams hadn't won a playoff game during the tenure of Pope Francis: the Dolphins, Raiders, and Bears. In the Dolphins' and Raiders' cases, you have to go all the way back to John Paul II.
So 122 out of 124 teams from those leagues have participated in the playoffs...which further proves that it really sucks to be a Jets, and Sabres, fan; however, because I'm a Bears fan, the fact that they're one of three teams to not get a playoff win makes the rooting experience extra painful, but at least they were able to win while Benedict XVI was the pope.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: ZLoth on April 23, 2025, 08:39:34 AM
Quote from: thenetwork on April 22, 2025, 10:38:34 PMDuring Pope Francis' time as Pope (about the last 12 years), Every MLB, NBA, and NFL sports team has played in at least ONE post-season playoff game...

EXCEPT for one...

The New York Jets.

Per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NFL_franchise_post-season_droughts, the following NFL teams did not have a post-season WIN during Pope Francis tenure: Miami Dolphins (2000 AFC Wild Card), Las Vegas Raiders (2002 AFC Championship as the Oakland Raiders), and Chicago Bears (2010 NFC Divisional).
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: JayhawkCO on April 23, 2025, 08:46:58 AM
Quote from: ZLoth on April 23, 2025, 08:39:34 AM
Quote from: thenetwork on April 22, 2025, 10:38:34 PMDuring Pope Francis' time as Pope (about the last 12 years), Every MLB, NBA, and NFL sports team has played in at least ONE post-season playoff game...

EXCEPT for one...

The New York Jets.

Per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NFL_franchise_post-season_droughts, the following NFL teams did not have a post-season WIN during Pope Francis tenure: Miami Dolphins (2000 AFC Wild Card), Las Vegas Raiders (2002 AFC Championship as the Oakland Raiders), and Chicago Bears (2010 NFC Divisional).

jlam beat you to it two posts up.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: Big John on April 23, 2025, 08:10:58 PM
Steve McMichael lost his battle with ALS today.  X-(
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: epzik8 on April 24, 2025, 09:18:13 PM
Jaguars made quite the bold move trading for #2 overall and drafting someone other than a QB.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: thspfc on April 24, 2025, 11:20:16 PM
Lions make history, becoming the first team to make -1 selections in the first round. They un-drafted the 12th man on the field vs Washington.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: thspfc on May 02, 2025, 05:46:28 PM
Have to rant for a sec after seeing internet discourse: how on God's green earth is it still a popular opinion that the AFC is better than the NFC? The NFC went 47-33 vs the AFC last year and won the Super Bowl in a blowout.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: NWI_Irish96 on May 02, 2025, 05:51:49 PM
Quote from: thspfc on May 02, 2025, 05:46:28 PMHave to rant for a sec after seeing internet discourse: how on God's green earth is it still a popular opinion that the AFC is better than the NFC? The NFC went 47-33 vs the AFC last year and won the Super Bowl in a blowout.

It's well past time to get rid of the AFC and NFC.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: SEWIGuy on May 02, 2025, 06:57:45 PM
Quote from: NWI_Irish96 on May 02, 2025, 05:51:49 PM
Quote from: thspfc on May 02, 2025, 05:46:28 PMHave to rant for a sec after seeing internet discourse: how on God's green earth is it still a popular opinion that the AFC is better than the NFC? The NFC went 47-33 vs the AFC last year and won the Super Bowl in a blowout.

It's well past time to get rid of the AFC and NFC.

Why?
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: NWI_Irish96 on May 03, 2025, 07:48:53 AM
Quote from: SEWIGuy on May 02, 2025, 06:57:45 PM
Quote from: NWI_Irish96 on May 02, 2025, 05:51:49 PM
Quote from: thspfc on May 02, 2025, 05:46:28 PMHave to rant for a sec after seeing internet discourse: how on God's green earth is it still a popular opinion that the AFC is better than the NFC? The NFC went 47-33 vs the AFC last year and won the Super Bowl in a blowout.

It's well past time to get rid of the AFC and NFC.

Why?

There's no point really. The conferences aren't geographic like the NBA and NHL. Outside of your own division, you play 6 games against your own conference and 5 against the other, so we might as well be measuring teams against the entire league instead of by conference. Just have 8 divisions and seed the division winners 1-8.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: epzik8 on May 03, 2025, 08:05:36 AM
Quote from: thspfc on May 02, 2025, 05:46:28 PMHave to rant for a sec after seeing internet discourse: how on God's green earth is it still a popular opinion that the AFC is better than the NFC? The NFC went 47-33 vs the AFC last year and won the Super Bowl in a blowout.

Quarterbacks, which a lot of people seem to think are the only position in football nowadays.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: KeithE4Phx on May 22, 2025, 01:35:24 AM
Indianapolis Colts owner Jim Irsay has died at age 65.

https://cbs4indy.com/sports/colts/colts-owner-jim-irsay-passes-away/
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: Big John on June 05, 2025, 04:35:12 PM
The circus' next stop is in Pittsburgh. Rodgers to sign there tomorrow.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: Max Rockatansky on June 05, 2025, 04:56:25 PM
Ah, that's one way to ensure a losing season so Mike Tomlin gets fired.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: jgb191 on June 06, 2025, 12:38:11 AM
Thank god Aaron Rodgers is not on the Texans schedule this year.  My team is 1-5 all-time record against any team with him on the roster; and winless when he's actually starting.  After the 2008 win at Lambeau Field, the Texans lost their last five games against Aaron Rodgers.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: SEWIGuy on June 06, 2025, 07:23:43 AM
Quote from: jgb191 on June 06, 2025, 12:38:11 AMThank god Aaron Rodgers is not on the Texans schedule this year.  My team is 1-5 all-time record against any team with him on the roster; and winless when he's actually starting.  After the 2008 win at Lambeau Field, the Texans lost their last five games against Aaron Rodgers.

By this point he is a mediocre quarterback with flashes of his old self at times.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: jgb191 on June 06, 2025, 10:29:52 AM
Quote from: SEWIGuy on June 06, 2025, 07:23:43 AM
Quote from: jgb191 on June 06, 2025, 12:38:11 AMThank god Aaron Rodgers is not on the Texans schedule this year.  My team is 1-5 all-time record against any team with him on the roster; and winless when he's actually starting.  After the 2008 win at Lambeau Field, the Texans lost their last five games against Aaron Rodgers.

By this point he is a mediocre quarterback with flashes of his old self at times.


They said that when he first joined the Jets.  I don't know what it is, but he always saves his best games against the Texans (and Lions).
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: Max Rockatansky on June 06, 2025, 11:20:10 AM
Quote from: jgb191 on June 06, 2025, 10:29:52 AM
Quote from: SEWIGuy on June 06, 2025, 07:23:43 AM
Quote from: jgb191 on June 06, 2025, 12:38:11 AMThank god Aaron Rodgers is not on the Texans schedule this year.  My team is 1-5 all-time record against any team with him on the roster; and winless when he's actually starting.  After the 2008 win at Lambeau Field, the Texans lost their last five games against Aaron Rodgers.

By this point he is a mediocre quarterback with flashes of his old self at times.


They said that when he first joined the Jets.  I don't know what it is, but he always saves his best games against the Texans (and Lions).

He didn't look so great against the Lions in his last game in Green Bay.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: SEWIGuy on June 06, 2025, 02:54:34 PM
Quote from: jgb191 on June 06, 2025, 10:29:52 AM
Quote from: SEWIGuy on June 06, 2025, 07:23:43 AM
Quote from: jgb191 on June 06, 2025, 12:38:11 AMThank god Aaron Rodgers is not on the Texans schedule this year.  My team is 1-5 all-time record against any team with him on the roster; and winless when he's actually starting.  After the 2008 win at Lambeau Field, the Texans lost their last five games against Aaron Rodgers.

By this point he is a mediocre quarterback with flashes of his old self at times.


They said that when he first joined the Jets.  I don't know what it is, but he always saves his best games against the Texans (and Lions).

He was worse than that when he was with the Jets.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: bing101 on July 21, 2025, 12:10:52 PM
https://www.livenowfox.com/news/trump-threatens-washington-commanders-stadium-deal-team-doesnt-switch-back-old-name

Here's a crazy way to start the NFL Season and it's this. 

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-demands-washington-commanders-reverse-change-threatens-facilitate/story?id=123921777
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: Henry on July 21, 2025, 08:58:10 PM
Quote from: bing101 on July 21, 2025, 12:10:52 PMhttps://www.livenowfox.com/news/trump-threatens-washington-commanders-stadium-deal-team-doesnt-switch-back-old-name

Here's a crazy way to start the NFL Season and it's this.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-demands-washington-commanders-reverse-change-threatens-facilitate/story?id=123921777
Not surprising that the most racist POTUS since the 1960s Civil Rights movement wants them and the Cleveland Guardians to go back to their former racist names.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: The Ghostbuster on July 29, 2025, 08:31:54 PM
How many of you plan to watch the Hall-of-Fame Game between the Detroit Lions and the Los Angeles Chargers on Thursday (8PM Eastern on NBC)? I know I'll be watching!
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: ZLoth on July 30, 2025, 07:30:08 AM
From Front Office Sports:

Chargers Sued by Season-Ticket Holder Over Game Moved to Brazil
A fan lawsuit seeks a refund for a Chargers home game that was moved to Brazil.
QuoteThe Chargers are being sued by a season-ticket holder over the team's opener in Brazil.

The plaintiff, Devin Abney, accuses the Chargers of breach of contract and false advertising. The complaint, filed in Los Angeles County Superior Court on Friday, included graphics that display the Chiefs logo in a 2025 season-ticket advertisement as a home game, months before the game was moved to Brazil.
FULL ARTICLE HERE (https://frontofficesports.com/chargers-sued-by-season-ticket-holder-over-game-moved-to-brazil/)
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: SEWIGuy on July 30, 2025, 08:29:30 AM
Quote from: ZLoth on July 30, 2025, 07:30:08 AMFrom Front Office Sports:

Chargers Sued by Season-Ticket Holder Over Game Moved to Brazil
A fan lawsuit seeks a refund for a Chargers home game that was moved to Brazil.
QuoteThe Chargers are being sued by a season-ticket holder over the team's opener in Brazil.

The plaintiff, Devin Abney, accuses the Chargers of breach of contract and false advertising. The complaint, filed in Los Angeles County Superior Court on Friday, included graphics that display the Chiefs logo in a 2025 season-ticket advertisement as a home game, months before the game was moved to Brazil.
FULL ARTICLE HERE (https://frontofficesports.com/chargers-sued-by-season-ticket-holder-over-game-moved-to-brazil/)


At first I thought this was a bullsh*t suit because the season ticket holder was induced to purchase a season ticket package because of the Chiefs only to have that game moved.

But as I understand it, the Chargers had a home game moved to a neutral site, but aren't reimbursing season ticket holders for the cost of that ticket? That's ridiculous.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: NWI_Irish96 on July 30, 2025, 08:35:22 AM
Quote from: SEWIGuy on July 30, 2025, 08:29:30 AM
Quote from: ZLoth on July 30, 2025, 07:30:08 AMFrom Front Office Sports:

Chargers Sued by Season-Ticket Holder Over Game Moved to Brazil
A fan lawsuit seeks a refund for a Chargers home game that was moved to Brazil.
QuoteThe Chargers are being sued by a season-ticket holder over the team's opener in Brazil.

The plaintiff, Devin Abney, accuses the Chargers of breach of contract and false advertising. The complaint, filed in Los Angeles County Superior Court on Friday, included graphics that display the Chiefs logo in a 2025 season-ticket advertisement as a home game, months before the game was moved to Brazil.
FULL ARTICLE HERE (https://frontofficesports.com/chargers-sued-by-season-ticket-holder-over-game-moved-to-brazil/)


At first I thought this was a bullsh*t suit because the season ticket holder was induced to purchase a season ticket package because of the Chiefs only to have that game moved.

But as I understand it, the Chargers had a home game moved to a neutral site, but aren't reimbursing season ticket holders for the cost of that ticket? That's ridiculous.

Maybe the NFL operates differently, but Notre Dame often plays neutral site games as the home team (2026 at Lambeau) and they don't force us to buy those tickets--they're optional.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: SEWIGuy on July 30, 2025, 08:47:53 AM
Quote from: NWI_Irish96 on July 30, 2025, 08:35:22 AM
Quote from: SEWIGuy on July 30, 2025, 08:29:30 AM
Quote from: ZLoth on July 30, 2025, 07:30:08 AMFrom Front Office Sports:

Chargers Sued by Season-Ticket Holder Over Game Moved to Brazil
A fan lawsuit seeks a refund for a Chargers home game that was moved to Brazil.
QuoteThe Chargers are being sued by a season-ticket holder over the team's opener in Brazil.

The plaintiff, Devin Abney, accuses the Chargers of breach of contract and false advertising. The complaint, filed in Los Angeles County Superior Court on Friday, included graphics that display the Chiefs logo in a 2025 season-ticket advertisement as a home game, months before the game was moved to Brazil.
FULL ARTICLE HERE (https://frontofficesports.com/chargers-sued-by-season-ticket-holder-over-game-moved-to-brazil/)


At first I thought this was a bullsh*t suit because the season ticket holder was induced to purchase a season ticket package because of the Chiefs only to have that game moved.

But as I understand it, the Chargers had a home game moved to a neutral site, but aren't reimbursing season ticket holders for the cost of that ticket? That's ridiculous.

Maybe the NFL operates differently, but Notre Dame often plays neutral site games as the home team (2026 at Lambeau) and they don't force us to buy those tickets--they're optional.


I don't know if its the NFL, but the Chargers sold a nine-game season ticket package, only to have a game moved. According to the article, teams like the Packers would reimburse ticket holders for the moved game, but the Chargers aren't doing that.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: Max Rockatansky on July 30, 2025, 09:59:06 AM
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on July 29, 2025, 08:31:54 PMHow many of you plan to watch the Hall-of-Fame Game between the Detroit Lions and the Los Angeles Chargers on Thursday (8PM Eastern on NBC)? I know I'll be watching!

Maybe?  I can't say I'm very invested in pre-season football anymore.  The Lions went 4-0 in the pre-season the year they went 0-16 in the regular season.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: SEWIGuy on July 30, 2025, 10:05:50 AM
Yeah, I have little interest in pre-season NFL. I will watch it if I am bored with everything else, but NFL teams are increasingly using the beginning of a long season to ramp themselves up, so its usually a bunch of back-ups and wannabees playing bad football.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: 1995hoo on July 30, 2025, 10:17:57 AM
Quote from: SEWIGuy on July 30, 2025, 08:47:53 AM
Quote from: NWI_Irish96 on July 30, 2025, 08:35:22 AM
Quote from: SEWIGuy on July 30, 2025, 08:29:30 AM
Quote from: ZLoth on July 30, 2025, 07:30:08 AMFrom Front Office Sports:

Chargers Sued by Season-Ticket Holder Over Game Moved to Brazil
A fan lawsuit seeks a refund for a Chargers home game that was moved to Brazil.
QuoteThe Chargers are being sued by a season-ticket holder over the team's opener in Brazil.

The plaintiff, Devin Abney, accuses the Chargers of breach of contract and false advertising. The complaint, filed in Los Angeles County Superior Court on Friday, included graphics that display the Chiefs logo in a 2025 season-ticket advertisement as a home game, months before the game was moved to Brazil.
FULL ARTICLE HERE (https://frontofficesports.com/chargers-sued-by-season-ticket-holder-over-game-moved-to-brazil/)


At first I thought this was a bullsh*t suit because the season ticket holder was induced to purchase a season ticket package because of the Chiefs only to have that game moved.

But as I understand it, the Chargers had a home game moved to a neutral site, but aren't reimbursing season ticket holders for the cost of that ticket? That's ridiculous.

Maybe the NFL operates differently, but Notre Dame often plays neutral site games as the home team (2026 at Lambeau) and they don't force us to buy those tickets--they're optional.


I don't know if its the NFL, but the Chargers sold a nine-game season ticket package, only to have a game moved. According to the article, teams like the Packers would reimburse ticket holders for the moved game, but the Chargers aren't doing that.

Different sport, but the Washington Capitals have moved a preseason game against the Flyers this September from DC to Hershey, Pennsylvania, which is where the Caps' AHL affiliate plays (the Hershey Bears). They're adjusting the cost of season tickets to reflect it; the adjustment shows up via a decrease in the monthly payment for those of us who pay that way. (Their ticket prices for preseason are half of what they charge for regular-season games, at least for season-ticket holders, so we're essentially getting refunded for half a game multiplied by the number of seats on the account.)

If you're paying fewer games at home, you should refund the ticket price for the cancelled game.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: 1995hoo on July 30, 2025, 10:19:12 AM
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on July 29, 2025, 08:31:54 PMHow many of you plan to watch the Hall-of-Fame Game between the Detroit Lions and the Los Angeles Chargers on Thursday (8PM Eastern on NBC)? I know I'll be watching!

I haven't yet gotten around to watching this past Sunday's F1 race, so I'll probably watch that instead. I'd watch it tonight except that our next-door neighbors, who are moving away this weekend, are coming over for dinner.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: ET21 on August 03, 2025, 01:56:44 PM
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on July 29, 2025, 08:31:54 PMHow many of you plan to watch the Hall-of-Fame Game between the Detroit Lions and the Los Angeles Chargers on Thursday (8PM Eastern on NBC)? I know I'll be watching!

I did not. Unless I go to a preseason game in person, I don't pay attention until my fantasy draft ahead of Week 1
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: Max Rockatansky on August 03, 2025, 02:32:42 PM
Quote from: ET21 on August 03, 2025, 01:56:44 PM
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on July 29, 2025, 08:31:54 PMHow many of you plan to watch the Hall-of-Fame Game between the Detroit Lions and the Los Angeles Chargers on Thursday (8PM Eastern on NBC)? I know I'll be watching!

I did not. Unless I go to a preseason game in person, I don't pay attention until my fantasy draft ahead of Week 1

Turned out there wasn't a point given pretty much none of the starters for both teams played.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: hobsini2 on August 09, 2025, 01:37:40 PM
I am resurrecting the Against the Spread Pool on Facebook if anyone is interested in joining. It is a free pool for fun and bragging rights. Here's the rules:

You pick the spread winner and you get a fixed amount of points based on the type of game and when it is played.

Spreads:
1. Game spreads are set by Draft Kings by Tuesday evening. If the game does not have a spread by then, I will use either ESPN or CBS Sportsline to get a spread.
2.  You pick the winner of the game based on the spread. For example, Dallas at Philadelphia is currently Philly by -6.5. If you pick Philadelphia, the Eagles need to win by 7 points to win. If you pick Dallas, they get 6 points to play with even if they lose the game.

Game Values based on type:
Division games - 3 points
Conference games - 2 points
Non-Conference games - 1 point

Play day/time values (Times are central):
Sunday at Noon and 3:00 PM - face value (single)
Wednesday, Thursday, Friday all day & Sunday 715 PM - double value
Saturday and Monday all day - triple value
International games - double value

The most points a game can be worth is 9 points, Divisional on Monday Night.

3. Pool champion is determined by the number of points earned. If there is a tie, number of weeks won is first followed by overall win loss record.
4. Deadline for picks:
Picks need to be in by 1 hour before the first game of the day. For example, all Sunday games need to be in by 11:00 AM Central Time to count.
This still allows people to make picks for the week even if they miss the Thursday deadline.
5.  There is no fee for the pool. I am doing my best to keep it free and fun.

If you are interested, let me know and click on the link for the group.
https://www.facebook.com/share/g/19BdXC3K85/
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: ZLoth on August 10, 2025, 10:56:41 AM
YouTube: NFL Rules Changes for the 2025 Season (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BvfF_jLltU)

(The NFL has prohibited embedding of the video outside YouTube).
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: JayhawkCO on August 28, 2025, 05:02:27 PM
Whoa. Parsons traded to the Packers.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: Henry on August 28, 2025, 10:12:49 PM
Seven more days to kickoff...
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: Great Lakes Roads on August 28, 2025, 11:24:20 PM
Quote from: JayhawkCO on August 28, 2025, 05:02:27 PMWhoa. Parsons traded to the Packers.

*laughs as a Steelers fan*

Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: Bobby5280 on August 28, 2025, 11:37:37 PM
Micah Parsons is arguably the best defensive player in the NFL. Since he's going to Green Bay it's making me wonder if the Cowboys could deliberately tank the 2025 season in order to tear down, re-build with more draft picks, etc.

I think Cowboys are cursed as long as Jerry Jones owns the team. It's the Jimmy Johnson curse. They haven't won a Super Bowl since they had a team built by Johnson (Barry Switzer got that ring on Johnson's coat tails).
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: SEWIGuy on August 29, 2025, 09:17:36 AM
Jones is just a terrible owner. His desire to be the center of attention and pretend he's a GM who knows something about football, has held the Cowboys back for three decades now.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: hobsini2 on August 29, 2025, 01:21:53 PM
2 1st road picks, which likely will be mid to late 20s if we don't win the Super Bowl, and an agin Kenny Clark for Micah Parsons?

Done!

Thanks Jerry!
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: thenetwork on August 29, 2025, 03:32:57 PM
Quote from: SEWIGuy on August 29, 2025, 09:17:36 AMJones is just a terrible owner. His desire to be the center of attention and pretend he's a GM who knows something about football, has held the Cowboys back for three decades now.

I still don't get how Jones and the Cowboys organization can continue to coerce the major NFL sports channels into making them the marquee "national" game damn near every week where the whole country has to watch their game.

They claim to be "Americas Team"...
I am an American...
They are NOT my team...
They Suck!!!

Same goes for Wheel of Fortune's claim of being "America's Game".
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: SEWIGuy on August 29, 2025, 04:43:38 PM
Because they have a large fanbase, perhaps the largest in the NFL, and it is spread throughout the country.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: tchafe1978 on August 30, 2025, 12:14:23 AM
From Packers fans everywhere, thanks for the gift, Jerry and the Cowboys!
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: mgk920 on August 30, 2025, 12:18:07 PM
I strongly suspect that the popularity of the Packers will be making major gains in NE Illinois over the coming years, too.

BTW, the Cowboys are Mexico's team.

 :-D

Mike
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: Max Rockatansky on August 30, 2025, 01:01:04 PM
As far as I know my wife's family in Jalisco follows the Rams.  Seems it is just the favored team for about 90% of her extended family.  It isn't too unusual to see clothing for all sorts of teams in the Guadalajara area.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: Bobby5280 on August 31, 2025, 02:41:40 PM
The Dallas Cowboys do have a big fan base. The team is based in a giant-sized TV viewing market; DFW is the 4th biggest metro in the nation and if growth trends continue it will surpass Chicago to be the 3rd largest metro within the next 10-20 years. The Cowboys do have lots of fans across the rest of Texas and in neighboring states that have no pro football team (Oklahoma, New Mexico). They arguably have the most well-known brand out of any NFL team, despite not having the most Super Bowl titles or NFL Championship titles prior to the Super Bowl era.

I think the Cowboys organization is taking all of that for granted. There is growing ill-will toward the team. They have not won a Super Bowl in going on 30 years. I think the New England Patriots are more deserving of that "America's Team" nickname than anyone else, considering they're called the "Patriots" and they've won the most Super Bowl titles.

Aside from the Cowboys' title drought, the other thing souring people on the Cowboys is they price-gouge the shit out of you if you dare see a game live at "Jerry's World." The tickets, parking fees, a plastic cup of beer and everything else is priced sky high. People have been paying these ridiculous prices and may continue to do so through this season. But if the team can't get its shit together and start winning attendance is going to start dropping. Any NFL coach worth a damn has to think very carefully about taking a coaching job with the Cowboys, due to Jerry Jones' reputation for meddling.

I also wonder what the average age is of a Cowboys fan. I'm middle aged and can still remember watching TV broadcasts of Super Bowls that were won by the Cowboys. Anyone person in their 20's or younger has zero memory of that. Why would anyone that age get vested in following the Cowboys if they don't live near the DFW metro?

Here in Oklahoma we have a lot of football fans who don't give a damn about the Cowboys. They'll either follow the two big NCAA football teams (OU and Oklahoma State) or they'll follow other NFL teams. Here in Lawton we have a good number of Kansas City Chiefs fans since Hall-of-Famer Will Shields attended Lawton High. Any town with a large military population will have fans following a wide variety of teams.

Anyway, this gravy train of ticket and merchandise sales the Cowboys are riding could eventually jump the tracks.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: hobsini2 on August 31, 2025, 04:21:47 PM
Week 1 Lines are out.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VSQbboi-Ytx20PcyUoW3cKg_WXjATfOm25N9b0fQ7Is/edit?usp=sharing

If anyone wants in the against the spread pool, let me know. It is completely free.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: SEWIGuy on September 01, 2025, 10:26:14 AM
Quote from: Bobby5280 on August 31, 2025, 02:41:40 PMI think the Cowboys organization is taking all of that for granted. There is growing ill-will toward the team. They have not won a Super Bowl in going on 30 years. I think the New England Patriots are more deserving of that "America's Team" nickname than anyone else, considering they're called the "Patriots" and they've won the most Super Bowl titles.

There are always fans of front running teams like the Patriots...and now the Chiefs...who will move onto the next big team when their current one falls off.

The Cowboys have been big since the 1970s.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: thenetwork on September 01, 2025, 04:52:31 PM
Quote from: SEWIGuy on September 01, 2025, 10:26:14 AM
Quote from: Bobby5280 on August 31, 2025, 02:41:40 PMI think the Cowboys organization is taking all of that for granted. There is growing ill-will toward the team. They have not won a Super Bowl in going on 30 years. I think the New England Patriots are more deserving of that "America's Team" nickname than anyone else, considering they're called the "Patriots" and they've won the most Super Bowl titles.

There are always fans of front running teams like the Patriots...and now the Chiefs...who will move onto the next big team when their current one falls off.

The Cowboys have been big since the 1970s.

A lot of that is because of the cheerleaders.  That fad has long wore off, IMO, as there are very attractive cheerleaders for other NFL teams as well.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: 74/171FAN on September 01, 2025, 04:57:41 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on September 01, 2025, 04:52:31 PMA lot of that is because of the cheerleaders.  That fad has long wore off, IMO, as there are very attractive cheerleaders for other NFL teams as well.

The Steelers are basically a national team due to their success in the 1970s and do not have cheerleaders.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: Great Lakes Roads on September 01, 2025, 05:23:33 PM
Predictions for each division's winner and wildcard spots (2025-26 season)

AFC East- Bills
AFC West- Broncos
AFC North- Ravens
AFC South- Texans

NFC East- Eagles
NFC West- Seahawks
NFC North- Packers
NFC South- Buccaneers

AFC Wildcards- Steelers, Chiefs, Chargers
NFC Wildcards- Lions, Commanders, Vikings
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: SEWIGuy on September 01, 2025, 07:33:37 PM
Quote from: Great Lakes Roads on September 01, 2025, 05:23:33 PMPredictions for each division's winner and wildcard spots (2025-26 season)

AFC East- Bills
AFC West- Broncos
AFC North- Ravens
AFC South- Texans

NFC East- Eagles
NFC West- Seahawks
NFC North- Packers
NFC South- Buccaneers

AFC Wildcards- Steelers, Chiefs, Chargers
NFC Wildcards- Lions, Commanders, Vikings


You picked 13 of the 14 teams who made the playoffs last year. How bold.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: hobsini2 on September 02, 2025, 01:39:00 PM
Quote from: SEWIGuy on September 01, 2025, 07:33:37 PM
Quote from: Great Lakes Roads on September 01, 2025, 05:23:33 PMPredictions for each division's winner and wildcard spots (2025-26 season)

AFC East- Bills
AFC West- Broncos
AFC North- Ravens
AFC South- Texans

NFC East- Eagles
NFC West- Seahawks
NFC North- Packers
NFC South- Buccaneers

AFC Wildcards- Steelers, Chiefs, Chargers
NFC Wildcards- Lions, Commanders, Vikings


You picked 13 of the 14 teams who made the playoffs last year. How bold.
Well the non playoff teams from last year are still just meh to be honest.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: hobsini2 on September 02, 2025, 01:55:15 PM
My final predicitions:
AFC
EAST
Buffalo 13-4 (1)
Miami 9-8
New England 9-8
NY Jets 5-12

NORTH
Baltimore 12-5 (2)
Cincinnati 11-6 (6)
Pittsburgh 10-7
Cleveland 6-11

SOUTH
Indianapolis 10-7 (4)
Houston 10-7
Jacksonville 8-9
Tennessee 7-10

WEST
Kansas City 12-5 (3)
Denver 12-5 (5)
LA Chargers 10-7 (7)
Las Vegas 8-9

NFC
EAST
Philadelphia 12-5 (1)
Washington 10-7 (7)
NY Giants 8-9
Dallas 6-11

NORTH
Green Bay 12-5 (2)
Detroit 11-6 (5)
Chicago 10-7 (6)
Minnesota 9-8

SOUTH
Tampa Bay 11-6 (3)
Carolina 8-9
Atlanta 8-9
New Orleans 4-13

WEST
LA Rams 10-7 (4)
Seattle 10-7
Arizona 9-8
San Francisco 8-9

Playoffs:
WC
Balt over LAC, Cin over KC, Den over Ind, GB over Wash, TB over Chi, Det over LAR

Div
Buff over Cin, Balt over Den, GB over TB, Det over Phil

Conf
Buffalo over Baltimore, Green Bay over Detroit

SB
Buffalo over Green Bay
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: JayhawkCO on September 02, 2025, 02:28:30 PM
AFC
EAST
Buffalo 11-6 (3)
Miami 7-9
New England 6-10
NY Jets 4-13

NORTH
Baltimore 13-4 (1)
Cincinnati 12-5 (5)
Pittsburgh 9-8
Cleveland 4-13

SOUTH
Jacksonville 11-6 (4)
Houston 10-7 (7)
Indianapolis 7-10
Tennessee 6-11

WEST
Kansas City 13-4 (2)
LA Chargers 11-6 (6)
Denver 8-9
Las Vegas 5-12

NFC
EAST
Philadelphia 14-3 (1)
Dallas 8-9
Washington 7-10
NY Giants 4-13

NORTH
Detroit 12-5 (2)
Minnesota 11-6 (5)
Green Bay 11-6 (6)
Chicago 6-11

SOUTH
Tampa Bay 11-6 (4)
Carolina 9-8
Atlanta 6-11
New Orleans 2-15

WEST
San Francisco 12-5 (3)
Seattle 10-7 (7)
Arizona 10-7
LA Rams 7-10

AFC Playoffs:
Kansas City (2) over Houston (7)
Buffalo (3) over LA Chargers (6)
Cincinnati (5) over Jacksonville (4)

Baltimore (1) over Cincinnati (5)
Kansas City (2) over Buffalo (3)

Baltimore (1) over Kansas City (2)

NFC Playoffs:
Detroit (2) over Seattle (7)
San Francisco (3) over Green Bay (6)
Minnesota (5) over Tampa Bay (4)

Philadelphia (1) over Minnesota (5)
Detroit (2) over San Francisco (3)

Philadelphia (1) over Detroit (2)

Super Bowl: Baltimore over Philadelphia
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: Big John on September 02, 2025, 02:51:16 PM
^^ NFC with 4 wildcards and the south with no playoff team?
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: JayhawkCO on September 02, 2025, 03:14:15 PM
Quote from: Big John on Today at 02:51:16 PM^^ NFC with 4 wildcards and the south with no playoff team?

Whoops, missed. Tried to go quick in between meetings. I'll fix.
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: NWI_Irish96 on September 02, 2025, 03:37:50 PM
z = #1 seed
y = Division Champ
x = Wild Card

NFCE: z-PHI 14-3, x-WAS 11-6, DAL 7-10, NYG 4-13
NFCN: y-DET 12-5, x-GB 10-7, x-MIN 9-8, CHI 8-9
NFCS: y-TB 9-8, ATL 8-9, CAR 6-11, NO-2-15
NFCW: y-SF 10-7, LAR 9-8, ARI 9-8, SEA 8-9

AFCE: z-BUF 13-4, NE 8-9, MIA 6-11, NYJ 6-11
AFCN: y-BAL 12-5, x-CIN 10-7, PIT 9-8, CLE 3-14
AFCS: y-HOU 11-6, JAX 8-9, IND 7-10, TEN 4-13
AFCW: y-KC 12-5, x-DEN 10-7, x-LAC 10-7, LV 7-10

Championship Games: Philadelphia over Washington, Buffalo over Kansas City
Super Bowl: Buffalo over Philadelphia

Forks (if we're doing that this year): NYG, NO, CAR, SEA, NYJ, MIA, CLE, TEN
Title: Re: NFL (2025 Season)
Post by: thspfc on September 02, 2025, 04:49:11 PM
I will attempt my yearly preseason power rankings . . .

Tier 1: Super Bowl favorites
1. Chiefs
2. Eagles

Not to say I'm confident we're getting part III of this game, I'm just not confident in predicting who will stop it. For the last 3 years these teams have swallowed the league whole. KC is 49-12, Philly is 44-8 excluding the mind-blowing 2023 implosion. You could count on one hand the number of FBS college teams with winning percentages that good over their last 50-60 games.

Tier 2: Super Bowl contenders
3. Ravens
4. Bills
5. Rams - year 2 for Verse and Fiske, and maybe/hopefully a healthy offense.
6. Packers - love this offseason for the Packers. Looks like they realized the habits that got them 2 titles in 30 years with HOF QB's wasn't going to get them any without a HOF QB. It might seem simple, but that's an epiphany at least half of the old guys running NFL teams are far too stubborn and philosophical to come to.
7. Lions - Ben Johnson is a great offensive coordinator, not sold on him as a head coach. Aaron Glenn, on the other hand, is neither a good defensive coordinator nor a good head coach. I expect the defense to improve with more health and no more Glenn. Offense might start slow-ish but has too much talent to be bad.

Tier 3: playoff caliber
8. Buccaneers
9. Texans
10. Seahawks
11. Broncos
12. 49ers
13. Commanders
14. Steelers

You could tell me these teams will all have the exact same record and I wouldn't be surprised.

Tier 4: mid
15. Bengals - I'm actually a fan of how they handled the Hendrickson situation.
16. Vikings - being in Minnesota as a neutral observer of Vikings fans and the team itself . . . I'm scared for what happens if McCarthy isn't good.
17. Chargers - I'm very out on the Greg Roman/Justin Herbert partnership. It's not a good fit. Harbaugh is great but doesn't seem capable of pivoting away from his philosophy - it worked in SF and in college, where he had extremely talented teams. Not the case here. Don't like taking a running back where they did.

From week 2 last year I was saying the Chargers, with the offense they run, stood little chance against serious teams. Sure enough:
- vs teams with 5 or fewer wins: 7-0
- vs teams with between 6 and 10 wins: 4-4
- vs teams with 11 or more wins: 0-2

18. Colts - assuming Richardson doesn't take a snap, not a bad team.

Tier 5: bad
19. Falcons
20. Cowboys - even as a fan, all I really care about right now is my Dak + Lamb stack in fantasy.
21. Cardinals
22. Jaguars
23. Bears - not sold on Ben Johnson as a head coach
24. Dolphins
25. Patriots - still chasing Belichick's ghosts with this coaching staff? Past time to move on.
26. Browns
27. Raiders
28. Jets - not a Fields guy, not a Glenn guy.
29. Titans
30. Panthers - horrendous statistical profile last year. A few overtime wins and being one of like 10 teams to sorta kinda almost beat the Chiefs doesn't outweigh that unfortunately.
31. Giants - I moved the Giants out of last because I saw their players having fun in the preseason, and if nothing else good vibes is more good things than what they've had recently which is absolutely nothing.
32. Saints - Kellen Moore should not have taken this job. Good luck.

NFC playoffs
1. Eagles
2. Rams
3. Packers
4. Buccaneers
5. Lions
6. Seahawks
7. 49ers

AFC playoffs
1. Chiefs
2. Ravens
3. Bills
4. Texans
5. Broncos
6. Steelers
7. Bengals

Super Bowl: Rams vs. Chiefs; Stafford wins another and retires on top
MVP: take your pick between the top 4
Fired coaches: Daboll (NYG), Canales (CAR), McDaniel (MIA), Gannon (AZ), Morris (ATL), Steichen (IND), Taylor (CIN)

Quote from: hobsini2 on Today at 01:39:00 PM
Quote from: SEWIGuy on September 01, 2025, 07:33:37 PM
Quote from: Great Lakes Roads on September 01, 2025, 05:23:33 PMPredictions for each division's winner and wildcard spots (2025-26 season)

AFC East- Bills
AFC West- Broncos
AFC North- Ravens
AFC South- Texans

NFC East- Eagles
NFC West- Seahawks
NFC North- Packers
NFC South- Buccaneers

AFC Wildcards- Steelers, Chiefs, Chargers
NFC Wildcards- Lions, Commanders, Vikings


You picked 13 of the 14 teams who made the playoffs last year. How bold.
Well the non playoff teams from last year are still just meh to be honest.
I definitely agree that there's no sense in picking any of these incompetent franchises to do anything. 6/8 division winners and 10/14 playoff teams rolled over from 2023 to 24, I'm expecting similar this year. The only new playoff teams I have are the Seahawks who are competent, 49ers who are competent, and Bengals who have Burrow/Chase and are more competent than people give them credit for.

Same thing is happening in the NBA - 7 of 8 teams to reach the second round were the same in 2024 and 25. Any team owned by a guy whose ego is bigger than his checkbook is dead as a doornail in the current landscape of professional sports.