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Title: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: Roadgeekteen on September 30, 2025, 05:37:40 PM
In this case it's not so much to let guests view it, it's more so that the Google search be able to find it. It's pretty much impossible to search for threads in mass transit now. I do get the arguments for keeping them closed, but new users can't ever register now. Mass Transit I think certainly should be guest viewable, transit nerds (including myself) have plenty of other subreddits and very few would intentionally sign up for a road forum to harass roadgeeks. Fictional I get more but I still don't think it would hurt that much to have it be guest visible. This is more for our convenience searching though, I accidently duplicated a thread in mass transit as Google search didn't find it.

Edit: well it looks like search works within boards so this may not be necessary but I still don't think it would hurt.
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: Max Rockatansky on September 30, 2025, 07:37:14 PM
Having Fictional visible to the larger world isn't the feature you think it to be.
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: formulanone on September 30, 2025, 07:40:44 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on September 30, 2025, 07:37:14 PMHaving Fictional visible to the larger world isn't the feature you think it to be.

We ever getting that Interegionalroutrapulupoafugus Show or was that a fever dream?

This is an admin-owner decision.
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: Max Rockatansky on September 30, 2025, 07:44:10 PM
Quote from: formulanone on September 30, 2025, 07:40:44 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on September 30, 2025, 07:37:14 PMHaving Fictional visible to the larger world isn't the feature you think it to be.

We ever getting that Interegionalroutropolupoafgus Show or was that a fever dream?

Haven't heard of that.  Then again it could have been buried Alanland, the plans of FritzOwl or all manner of helicopter graphing hook variants. 
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: Roadgeekteen on September 30, 2025, 08:14:10 PM
Fictional is one thing, I see no reason why the transit board has to be hidden.
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: Max Rockatansky on September 30, 2025, 08:20:43 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 30, 2025, 08:14:10 PMFictional is one thing, I see no reason why the transit board has to be hidden.

I like being able to talk about current transit stories peacefully.  Anti-transit folks and urbanists muck that up off forum.
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: Roadgeekteen on September 30, 2025, 08:22:42 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on September 30, 2025, 08:20:43 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 30, 2025, 08:14:10 PMFictional is one thing, I see no reason why the transit board has to be hidden.

I like being able to talk about current transit stories peacefully.  Anti-transit folks and urbanists muck that up off forum.
Most of the urbanists that post in that forum (and on this forum) are also roadgeeks as well who just have varied interests in all forms of transportation. The only big notable super anti-transit member is K12 who has been banned from Reddit already but doesn't cause too much trouble.
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: Max Rockatansky on September 30, 2025, 08:25:06 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 30, 2025, 08:22:42 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on September 30, 2025, 08:20:43 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 30, 2025, 08:14:10 PMFictional is one thing, I see no reason why the transit board has to be hidden.

I like being able to talk about current transit stories peacefully.  Anti-transit folks and urbanists muck that up off forum.
Most of the urbanists that post in that forum (and on this forum) are also roadgeeks as well who just have varied interests in all forms of transportation. The only big notable super anti-transit member is K12 who has been banned from Reddit already but doesn't cause too much trouble.

And you want to attract more folks with extreme takes?  Look up High Speed Rail anything on Facebook and check the nastiness in comments. 
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: Roadgeekteen on September 30, 2025, 08:25:52 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on September 30, 2025, 08:25:06 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 30, 2025, 08:22:42 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on September 30, 2025, 08:20:43 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 30, 2025, 08:14:10 PMFictional is one thing, I see no reason why the transit board has to be hidden.

I like being able to talk about current transit stories peacefully.  Anti-transit folks and urbanists muck that up off forum.
Most of the urbanists that post in that forum (and on this forum) are also roadgeeks as well who just have varied interests in all forms of transportation. The only big notable super anti-transit member is K12 who has been banned from Reddit already but doesn't cause too much trouble.

And you want to attract more folks with extreme takes?  Look up High Speed Rail anything on Facebook and check the nastiness in comments. 
I mean I guess, but this forum barely attracts anyone in general nowadays so not sure if much would actually change...

Plus I think that's more facebook that's the issue than the rail
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: formulanone on September 30, 2025, 08:30:16 PM
You know what I needed today? Three more arguments purporting induced demand in every road discussion. That, and a charley horse.
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: Roadgeekteen on September 30, 2025, 08:31:29 PM
I will say that AAroads users seem more pro-transit than you would expect for this being a road forum.

Edit: I think that both pro and anti induced demand supporters misunderstand it. It's not "we should never build or upgrade any roads anywhere or it will make traffic worse" or "we can fix all of a cities traffic congestion by building 25 lane Katy Highway or Ontario 401 Monsters everywhere".
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: kphoger on September 30, 2025, 08:49:03 PM
No.  We shouldn't.
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: Roadgeekteen on September 30, 2025, 08:52:45 PM
Quote from: kphoger on September 30, 2025, 08:49:03 PMNo.  We shouldn't.
This was posted when I thought search was broken everywhere, but when I realized it worked in individual forums, this is no longer necessary.
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: formulanone on September 30, 2025, 09:00:02 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 30, 2025, 08:31:29 PMI will say that AAroads users seem more pro-transit than you would expect for this being a road forum.

Edit: I think that both pro and anti induced demand supporters misunderstand it. It's not "we should never build or upgrade any roads anywhere or it will make traffic worse" or "we can fix all of a cities traffic congestion by building 25 lane Katy Highway or Ontario 401 Monsters everywhere".

Yes, but then convince people we should increase capacity on multiple roads (which I tend to agree), but then there's a greater overall price tag involved and more time/construction, and these middle-road arguments tend to get lost in the shuffle of noise...Nobody seriously wants another 18-lane Katy Freeway, but that's many peoples' quick argument against widening anything.
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: Roadgeekteen on September 30, 2025, 09:03:22 PM
Quote from: formulanone on September 30, 2025, 09:00:02 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 30, 2025, 08:31:29 PMI will say that AAroads users seem more pro-transit than you would expect for this being a road forum.

Edit: I think that both pro and anti induced demand supporters misunderstand it. It's not "we should never build or upgrade any roads anywhere or it will make traffic worse" or "we can fix all of a cities traffic congestion by building 25 lane Katy Highway or Ontario 401 Monsters everywhere".

Yes, but then convince people we should increase capacity on multiple roads (which I tend to agree), but then there's a greater overall price tag involved and more time/construction, and these middle-road arguments tend to get lost in the shuffle of noise...Nobody seriously wants another 18-lane Katy Freeway, but that's many peoples' quick argument against widening anything.
I think we need to invest in both roads and transit, and it's very location dependent what to do. In rural Mississippi, expanding 2 lane roads to 4 is probably the move instead of building an expensive, lightly used rail network. But in major cities in this country I think more money should be spent on transit.
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: Molandfreak on September 30, 2025, 09:09:58 PM
I really don't understand why the urban planning board isn't visible to everyone. Sure, the mass transit board could attract more NUMTOT type folks who don't understand nuance, but since the mods let the anti-roundabout folks go off with the same tired arguments and lack of nuance that occurs everywhere else on the internet, why is a lack of nuance regarding other road-related projects a problem?
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: vdeane on September 30, 2025, 09:11:19 PM
Quote from: formulanone on September 30, 2025, 08:30:16 PMYou know what I needed today? Three more arguments purporting induced demand in every road discussion. That, and a charley horse.
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: Roadgeekteen on September 30, 2025, 09:17:55 PM
Quote from: Molandfreak on September 30, 2025, 09:09:58 PMI really don't understand why the urban planning board isn't visible to everyone. Sure, the mass transit board could attract more NUMTOT type folks who don't understand nuance, but since the mods let the anti-roundabout folks go off with the same tired arguments and lack of nuance that occurs everywhere else on the internet, why is a lack of nuance regarding other road-related projects a problem?
I'd say there are 1-2 users on this forum who are true "urbanists", and several more who are more urbanist than most on the forum but not all the way there (like me, I'm actually "railgeekteen" on 2 other forums). I'd say that mass transit is less controversial than urban planning, which has the disastrous California thread with Kernals rallying against Point Reyes National Seashore and political arguments being spewed back and forth.
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: Molandfreak on September 30, 2025, 09:45:51 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 30, 2025, 09:17:55 PM
Quote from: Molandfreak on September 30, 2025, 09:09:58 PMI really don't understand why the urban planning board isn't visible to everyone. Sure, the mass transit board could attract more NUMTOT type folks who don't understand nuance, but since the mods let the anti-roundabout folks go off with the same tired arguments and lack of nuance that occurs everywhere else on the internet, why is a lack of nuance regarding other road-related projects a problem?
I'd say there are 1-2 users on this forum who are true "urbanists", and several more who are more urbanist than most on the forum but not all the way there (like me, I'm actually "railgeekteen" on 2 other forums). I'd say that mass transit is less controversial than urban planning, which has the disastrous California thread with Kernals rallying against Point Reyes National Seashore and political arguments being spewed back and forth.
I don't see K12 coming up with a ridiculous argument like the Portland Metro government and similar planning organizations are just ploys to waste taxpayer dollars. Because the mods should definitely intervene when such outrageous claims are made (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=7953.msg2834412#msg2834412).
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: Max Rockatansky on September 30, 2025, 09:51:53 PM
Quote from: Molandfreak on September 30, 2025, 09:45:51 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 30, 2025, 09:17:55 PM
Quote from: Molandfreak on September 30, 2025, 09:09:58 PMI really don't understand why the urban planning board isn't visible to everyone. Sure, the mass transit board could attract more NUMTOT type folks who don't understand nuance, but since the mods let the anti-roundabout folks go off with the same tired arguments and lack of nuance that occurs everywhere else on the internet, why is a lack of nuance regarding other road-related projects a problem?
I'd say there are 1-2 users on this forum who are true "urbanists", and several more who are more urbanist than most on the forum but not all the way there (like me, I'm actually "railgeekteen" on 2 other forums). I'd say that mass transit is less controversial than urban planning, which has the disastrous California thread with Kernals rallying against Point Reyes National Seashore and political arguments being spewed back and forth.
I don't see K12 coming up with a ridiculous argument like the Portland Metro government and similar planning organizations are just ploys to waste taxpayer dollars. Because the mods should definitely intervene when such outrageous claims are made (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=7953.msg2834412#msg2834412).

Dude, you really got drop whatever problems you have with this person.  Continually digging shit up from years ago makes you look obsessed.
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: LilianaUwU on September 30, 2025, 09:51:57 PM
I disagree with the concept of induced demand being used as an excuse to never build anything.
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: Max Rockatansky on September 30, 2025, 09:54:40 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on September 30, 2025, 09:51:57 PMI disagree with the concept of induced demand being used as an excuse to never build anything.

Come to my neck of the woods, you'll see it almost every week.
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: LilianaUwU on September 30, 2025, 09:55:21 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on September 30, 2025, 09:54:40 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on September 30, 2025, 09:51:57 PMI disagree with the concept of induced demand being used as an excuse to never build anything.

Come to my neck of the woods, you'll see it almost every week.

I wouldn't wish living in California on my worst enemy.
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: Roadgeekteen on September 30, 2025, 09:57:57 PM
Quote from: Molandfreak on September 30, 2025, 09:45:51 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 30, 2025, 09:17:55 PM
Quote from: Molandfreak on September 30, 2025, 09:09:58 PMI really don't understand why the urban planning board isn't visible to everyone. Sure, the mass transit board could attract more NUMTOT type folks who don't understand nuance, but since the mods let the anti-roundabout folks go off with the same tired arguments and lack of nuance that occurs everywhere else on the internet, why is a lack of nuance regarding other road-related projects a problem?
I'd say there are 1-2 users on this forum who are true "urbanists", and several more who are more urbanist than most on the forum but not all the way there (like me, I'm actually "railgeekteen" on 2 other forums). I'd say that mass transit is less controversial than urban planning, which has the disastrous California thread with Kernals rallying against Point Reyes National Seashore and political arguments being spewed back and forth.
I don't see K12 coming up with a ridiculous argument like the Portland Metro government and similar planning organizations are just ploys to waste taxpayer dollars. Because the mods should definitely intervene when such outrageous claims are made (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=7953.msg2834412#msg2834412).
I think you quoted the wrong post
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: Max Rockatansky on September 30, 2025, 09:59:24 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on September 30, 2025, 09:55:21 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on September 30, 2025, 09:54:40 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on September 30, 2025, 09:51:57 PMI disagree with the concept of induced demand being used as an excuse to never build anything.

Come to my neck of the woods, you'll see it almost every week.

I wouldn't wish living in California on my worst enemy.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy living here.  Although I do think it is way more on my terms than most people experience. 
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: Rothman on September 30, 2025, 10:07:08 PM
Uggggggggggh.  Another bad thread/idea...
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: Thing 342 on September 30, 2025, 10:18:57 PM
This is a non sequitur, how does the internal search not working address the issues that caused those boards to be privated in the first place (accounts created solely to post in those boards and filling them with junk content)
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: CoreySamson on September 30, 2025, 10:25:13 PM
Quote from: Molandfreak on September 30, 2025, 09:45:51 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 30, 2025, 09:17:55 PM
Quote from: Molandfreak on September 30, 2025, 09:09:58 PMI really don't understand why the urban planning board isn't visible to everyone. Sure, the mass transit board could attract more NUMTOT type folks who don't understand nuance, but since the mods let the anti-roundabout folks go off with the same tired arguments and lack of nuance that occurs everywhere else on the internet, why is a lack of nuance regarding other road-related projects a problem?
I'd say there are 1-2 users on this forum who are true "urbanists", and several more who are more urbanist than most on the forum but not all the way there (like me, I'm actually "railgeekteen" on 2 other forums). I'd say that mass transit is less controversial than urban planning, which has the disastrous California thread with Kernals rallying against Point Reyes National Seashore and political arguments being spewed back and forth.
I don't see K12 coming up with a ridiculous argument like the Portland Metro government and similar planning organizations are just ploys to waste taxpayer dollars. Because the mods should definitely intervene when such outrageous claims are made (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=7953.msg2834412#msg2834412).
Did you quote the wrong post, or are you trying to instigate a witch hunt on Terry Shea for what looks to me to be an irrelevant and innocuous comment? I know you don't like the guy, but I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt here that you quoted the wrong thing, because his quote has nothing to do with what you said he said.
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: Henry on September 30, 2025, 10:28:44 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on September 30, 2025, 09:59:24 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on September 30, 2025, 09:55:21 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on September 30, 2025, 09:54:40 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on September 30, 2025, 09:51:57 PMI disagree with the concept of induced demand being used as an excuse to never build anything.

Come to my neck of the woods, you'll see it almost every week.

I wouldn't wish living in California on my worst enemy.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy living here.  Although I do think it is way more on my terms than most people experience. 
I lived in L.A. for 12 years (first four as a college student, then the other eight as a bona fide resident), and that was more than enough.
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: Max Rockatansky on September 30, 2025, 10:33:50 PM
Quote from: Henry on September 30, 2025, 10:28:44 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on September 30, 2025, 09:59:24 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on September 30, 2025, 09:55:21 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on September 30, 2025, 09:54:40 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on September 30, 2025, 09:51:57 PMI disagree with the concept of induced demand being used as an excuse to never build anything.

Come to my neck of the woods, you'll see it almost every week.

I wouldn't wish living in California on my worst enemy.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy living here.  Although I do think it is way more on my terms than most people experience. 
I lived in L.A. for 12 years (first four as a college student, then the other eight as a bona fide resident), and that was more than enough.

When I lived in Phoenix, I had southern California stores in my LP market twice between 2007-2013.  I turned down three transfer offers to relocate to Los Angeles and San Diego.

I was bored after a three-year stint in Florida and moved to the Central Valley via work transfer in January 2016.  I found the area to be pretty affordable and intended to buy a house in early 2018.  I met my now wife in June 2017, she bought the house we live in presently on a short sale in 2011.  Considering how much equity we have and how low our mortgage is it would be hard to find a more affordable living situation.  Things certainly much more tolerable given we are fairly insulated economically from outside influences.
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: Roadgeekteen on September 30, 2025, 10:37:49 PM
Quote from: Rothman on September 30, 2025, 10:07:08 PMUggggggggggh.  Another bad thread/idea...
I know, but I can't delete my own topics and why I suggested it isn't applicable anymore. Yall decided to respond to me and start talking about Terry Shea.
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: Rothman on September 30, 2025, 11:35:26 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 30, 2025, 10:37:49 PM
Quote from: Rothman on September 30, 2025, 10:07:08 PMUggggggggggh.  Another bad thread/idea...
I know, but I can't delete my own topics and why I suggested it isn't applicable anymore. Yall decided to respond to me and start talking about Terry Shea.
Of course we responded, since we didn't want something bad to be implemented because of lack of opposition.
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: Roadgeekteen on September 30, 2025, 11:57:58 PM
Quote from: Rothman on September 30, 2025, 11:35:26 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 30, 2025, 10:37:49 PM
Quote from: Rothman on September 30, 2025, 10:07:08 PMUggggggggggh.  Another bad thread/idea...
I know, but I can't delete my own topics and why I suggested it isn't applicable anymore. Yall decided to respond to me and start talking about Terry Shea.
Of course we responded, since we didn't want something bad to be implemented because of lack of opposition.
Fair enough, though I doubt it was actually gonna get implemented as the mods have always been against it. I was talking more about the Terry Shea and Induced Demand rabbit hole we got into.
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: Scott5114 on October 01, 2025, 01:06:47 AM
Quote from: Thing 342 on September 30, 2025, 10:18:57 PMThis is a non sequitur, how does the internal search not working address the issues that caused those boards to be privated in the first place (accounts created solely to post in those boards and filling them with junk content)

The bigger concern with transit is people joining initially to post in the transit boards and then escaping containment and spamming every highway project thread with "this should be a train".
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: LilianaUwU on October 01, 2025, 01:29:55 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 01, 2025, 01:06:47 AM
Quote from: Thing 342 on September 30, 2025, 10:18:57 PMThis is a non sequitur, how does the internal search not working address the issues that caused those boards to be privated in the first place (accounts created solely to post in those boards and filling them with junk content)

The bigger concern with transit is people joining initially to post in the transit boards and then escaping containment and spamming every highway project thread with "this should be a train".
I'm thinking of stuffing beans up my nose...
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: Roadgeekteen on October 01, 2025, 02:40:39 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 01, 2025, 01:06:47 AM
Quote from: Thing 342 on September 30, 2025, 10:18:57 PMThis is a non sequitur, how does the internal search not working address the issues that caused those boards to be privated in the first place (accounts created solely to post in those boards and filling them with junk content)

The bigger concern with transit is people joining initially to post in the transit boards and then escaping containment and spamming every highway project thread with "this should be a train".
Well this board is public so now all these people know about transit  :pan:

Being serious, not so much transit but ficitonal highways, but a big part of why I joined was so I could read that board as I couldn't as a guest. It's hidden but mentioned so much that I found out quick that it existed.
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: Scott5114 on October 01, 2025, 08:48:50 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on October 01, 2025, 02:40:39 AMWell this board is public so now all these people know about transit  :pan:

You really think a transit person would be doing a deep dive on a road forum's "Suggestions and Questions" board?
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: kphoger on October 01, 2025, 09:52:36 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on September 30, 2025, 08:52:45 PMThis was posted when I thought search was broken everywhere, but when I realized it worked in individual forums, this is no longer necessary.

It was never necessary to begin with.

Quote from: Molandfreak on September 30, 2025, 09:09:58 PMI really don't understand why the urban planning board isn't visible to everyone.

Because then, to some degree at least, this would certainly become a transit forum instead of a roads forum.  And, as Scott pointed out, there would be significant bleeding over of transitonlyism into the non-transit boards.

Quote from: Thing 342 on September 30, 2025, 10:18:57 PMThis is a non sequitur, how does the internal search not working address the issues that caused those boards to be privated in the first place (accounts created solely to post in those boards and filling them with junk content)

This was explained in the OP.  With forum search broken or at least handicapped, it's often a better tactic to search in Google instead of within the site itself.  But, if the post you're looking for happened to be in a Fictional or Transit board, then Google can't find it for you.
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: hotdogPi on October 01, 2025, 09:53:58 AM
I'm surprised there was no announcement when they fixed searching in threads to no longer always show zero results. (Overall searching is still broken; thread search isn't subject to that because the search is narrow enough.)
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: vdeane on October 01, 2025, 12:56:05 PM
I'm guessing Google isn't all-encompassing even on the visible boards.  I've looked at the reports they have for my site and it's amazing what has not been crawled and/or indexed; I wouldn't be surprised if it's similar here.
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: Voyager on October 01, 2025, 04:50:56 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 01, 2025, 01:06:47 AM
Quote from: Thing 342 on September 30, 2025, 10:18:57 PMThis is a non sequitur, how does the internal search not working address the issues that caused those boards to be privated in the first place (accounts created solely to post in those boards and filling them with junk content)

The bigger concern with transit is people joining initially to post in the transit boards and then escaping containment and spamming every highway project thread with "this should be a train".

This thread should be a train.

*runs*
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: Roadgeekteen on October 01, 2025, 07:28:32 PM
Quote from: Voyager on October 01, 2025, 04:50:56 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 01, 2025, 01:06:47 AM
Quote from: Thing 342 on September 30, 2025, 10:18:57 PMThis is a non sequitur, how does the internal search not working address the issues that caused those boards to be privated in the first place (accounts created solely to post in those boards and filling them with junk content)

The bigger concern with transit is people joining initially to post in the transit boards and then escaping containment and spamming every highway project thread with "this should be a train".

This thread should be a train.

*runs*
I believe this thread has derailed.
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: Max Rockatansky on October 01, 2025, 07:29:49 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on October 01, 2025, 07:28:32 PM
Quote from: Voyager on October 01, 2025, 04:50:56 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 01, 2025, 01:06:47 AM
Quote from: Thing 342 on September 30, 2025, 10:18:57 PMThis is a non sequitur, how does the internal search not working address the issues that caused those boards to be privated in the first place (accounts created solely to post in those boards and filling them with junk content)

The bigger concern with transit is people joining initially to post in the transit boards and then escaping containment and spamming every highway project thread with "this should be a train".

This thread should be a train.

*runs*
I believe this thread has derailed.

There was no stopping that train.
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: Big John on October 01, 2025, 07:31:45 PM
(https://ageofgeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Train-Wreck.png)
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: Voyager on October 01, 2025, 07:50:02 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on October 01, 2025, 07:28:32 PM
Quote from: Voyager on October 01, 2025, 04:50:56 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 01, 2025, 01:06:47 AM
Quote from: Thing 342 on September 30, 2025, 10:18:57 PMThis is a non sequitur, how does the internal search not working address the issues that caused those boards to be privated in the first place (accounts created solely to post in those boards and filling them with junk content)

The bigger concern with transit is people joining initially to post in the transit boards and then escaping containment and spamming every highway project thread with "this should be a train".

This thread should be a train.

*runs*
I believe this thread has derailed.

Jail!
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: vdeane on October 01, 2025, 09:21:06 PM
This thread is a trolley.

Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: Max Rockatansky on October 01, 2025, 09:27:50 PM
All aboard the pain train.

Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: Rothman on October 01, 2025, 09:32:20 PM
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/19/Train_wreck_at_Montparnasse_1895.jpg/1280px-Train_wreck_at_Montparnasse_1895.jpg)
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: Molandfreak on October 01, 2025, 10:56:45 PM
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: Max Rockatansky on October 01, 2025, 11:00:03 PM
I guess everyone has decided to "train" their attention on this thread.
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: Roadgeekteen on October 02, 2025, 12:39:54 AM
This thread has gone off the rails
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: Scott5114 on October 02, 2025, 12:50:51 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on October 01, 2025, 07:28:32 PMI believe this thread has derailed.

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on October 02, 2025, 12:39:54 AMThis thread has gone off the rails

Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: Max Rockatansky on October 02, 2025, 12:54:02 AM
This thread has turned into another California High Speed Rail.  Lots of dirt kicked around but nothing is on track.
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: Roadgeekteen on October 02, 2025, 12:55:09 AM
Hopefully this thread isn't used to train ai models
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: freebrickproductions on October 02, 2025, 04:14:54 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on October 02, 2025, 12:55:09 AMHopefully this thread isn't used to train ai models

Hopefully only this thread is used to train ai models. :pan:
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: kphoger on October 02, 2025, 10:22:38 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on October 02, 2025, 12:55:09 AMHopefully this thread isn't used to train ai models

I haven't gotten used to them yet, so this thread probably hasn't either.



(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/76/Borki_train_disaster_2.jpg?20190126171350)
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: kphoger on October 02, 2025, 10:35:11 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on October 02, 2025, 12:55:09 AMtrain ai models

Like these.  Yeah, this thread will never get used to them.

(https://i.imgur.com/3B27blf.png)
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: Roadgeekteen on October 03, 2025, 02:17:34 PM
"generate an image of a conversation on the aaroads forum getting derailed. Use train imagery as well."

(https://i.imgur.com/0ULDrfD.png)

From Gemini 2.5 Pro
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: kphoger on October 03, 2025, 02:35:45 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on October 03, 2025, 02:17:34 PM"generate an image of a conversation on the aaroads forum getting derailed. Use train imagery as well."

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This reminds, did guצtuys heat the new high-peed ✝ƨilrsal in Califernia
:-| DieseRailFan1 :-|

This reminds, did gury aaout high-speed
proposal.  Way oưedtue!

🚂 SteamWhistle

Wrong threal, is about ROADS!

| GIF

THREAD DERAILMENT IN PROSRESS!
⚠️ Folks, please stay on tapic.  Merging into
"West Coast Rail Talk in 5...
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: Roadgeekteen on October 03, 2025, 02:39:07 PM
Quote from: kphoger on October 03, 2025, 02:35:45 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on October 03, 2025, 02:17:34 PM"generate an image of a conversation on the aaroads forum getting derailed. Use train imagery as well."

[img

This reminds, did guצtuys heat the new high-peed ✝ƨilrsal in Califernia
:-| DieseRailFan1 :-|

This reminds, did gury aaout high-speed
proposal.  Way oưedtue!

🚂 SteamWhistle

Wrong threal, is about ROADS!

| GIF

THREAD DERAILMENT IN PROSRESS!
⚠️ Folks, please stay on tapic.  Merging into
"West Coast Rail Talk in 5...
Ai imagery is bad with text, but it's much better then it used to be.
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: Scott5114 on October 03, 2025, 03:12:09 PM
⚠️ Folks, please stay on tapic.
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: hotdogPi on October 03, 2025, 03:41:55 PM
@Scott5114 How exactly did you or another admin fix thread search after I posted the SMF code about a week ago?
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: Roadgeekteen on October 03, 2025, 05:22:05 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on October 03, 2025, 03:12:09 PM⚠️ Folks, please stay on tapic.
Given people's receptions to my topic I doubt there is much more to say...
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: PNWRoadgeek on October 03, 2025, 07:59:35 PM
I pooped myself
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: Max Rockatansky on October 03, 2025, 08:49:50 PM
Quote from: PNWRoadgeek on October 03, 2025, 07:59:35 PMI pooped myself

Were you on a train when this happened?
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: Roadgeekteen on October 03, 2025, 08:53:38 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 03, 2025, 08:49:50 PM
Quote from: PNWRoadgeek on October 03, 2025, 07:59:35 PMI pooped myself

Were you on a train when this happened?
I would hope that @PNWRoadgeek would be trained to get to a toilet when he needs to do number 2.
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: Scott5114 on October 03, 2025, 09:22:02 PM
Quote from: hotdogPi on October 03, 2025, 03:41:55 PM@Scott5114 How exactly did you or another admin fix thread search after I posted the SMF code about a week ago?

Wasn't me...
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: Max Rockatansky on October 03, 2025, 09:51:48 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on October 03, 2025, 08:53:38 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 03, 2025, 08:49:50 PM
Quote from: PNWRoadgeek on October 03, 2025, 07:59:35 PMI pooped myself

Were you on a train when this happened?
I would hope that @PNWRoadgeek would be trained to get to a toilet when he needs to do number 2.

Trained or not doesn't answer the question I asked.  Was the venue on a train or not?
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: Roadgeekteen on October 03, 2025, 10:22:02 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 03, 2025, 09:51:48 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on October 03, 2025, 08:53:38 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 03, 2025, 08:49:50 PM
Quote from: PNWRoadgeek on October 03, 2025, 07:59:35 PMI pooped myself

Were you on a train when this happened?
I would hope that @PNWRoadgeek would be trained to get to a toilet when he needs to do number 2.

Trained or not doesn't answer the question I asked.  Was the venue on a train or not?
It was on a train that has been trained to train.
Title: Re: With the forum search broken, should we let guests view fictional/mass transit?
Post by: Scott5114 on October 05, 2025, 07:55:46 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/HjCmhOC.png)