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Quote from: AlpsROADS on April 18, 2011, 12:20:54 AM

QuoteRandom, unrelated question that popped into my head - How many county seats have never had a US highway running through them?

Illinois:
Hennepin, Putnam County.  No US highway, but got an interstate with I-180.
Oquawka, Henderson County.  US-67 passes through county.
Aledo, Mercer County.  US-34 passes through county.
Pekin, Tazewell County.  US-24 and US-150 pass through county along with I-74, I-474, and I-155.
Lacon, Marshall County.  US-51 and I-39 pass through county.
Sycamore, DeKalb County.  US-330 and US-30A passed through the county just south in DeKalb, and US-30, US-34, and I-88 pass through the county.
Oregon, Ogle County.  US-51, YS-52, and I-39 pass through the county.
Toulon, Stark County.  No US highway in county.
Petersburg, Menard County.  No US highway in county.
Monticello, Piatt County.  US-36 forms south county line and US-150, I-72, and I-74 pass through county.
Golconda, Pope County.  No US highway in county.
Elizabethtown, Hardin County.  No US highway in county.
Shawneetown, Gallatin County.  US-45 passes through a corner of the county.
Marion, Williamson County.  US-45 cuts through a corner of the county, but I-57 passes through town.
Benton, Franklin County.  No US highway, but I-57 passes through town.
Pickneyville, Perry County.  US-51 passes through county.
Murphysboro, Jackson County.  US-51 passes through county in Carbondale.
Chester, Randolph County.  No US highway in county.
Waterloo, Monroe County.  US-50 and I-255 cut through a corner of the county.
Hardin, Calhoun County.  No US highway in county.
Taylorville, Christian County.  US-51 passes through county.
Shelbyville, Shelby County.  US-45, US-51, and I-57 cut through corners of the county.
Newton, Jasper County.  US-40 cuts through a tiny corner of the county.
Robinson, Crawford County.  No US highway in county.
Albion, Edwards County.  No US highway in county.
Mount Carmel, Wabash County.  No US highway in county.
Charleston, Coles County.  US-45 and I-57 pass through nearby Mattoon in county.
Sullivan, Moultrie County.  US-36 forms the north county line.
Virginia, Cass County.  US-67 passes through county.
Cambridge, Henry County.  US-6, US-34, US-150, I-74, I-80, and I-280 pass through county.
Winchester, Scott County.  US-36, US-67, and I-72 pass through county.
Hillsboro, Montgomery County.  I-55 passes through county.

County seats that once had a US highway, but no longer:

Pontiac, Livingston County.  US-66, still has I-55.
Geneva, Kane County.  US-30, US-330, US-430, and US-30A.
Wheaton, DuPage County.  US-330 and US-30A.
Edwardsville, Madison County.  US-66, still has I-55.
Belleville, Saint Clair County.  US-460.
Carlinville, Macoupin County.  US-66.
Nashville, Washington County.  US-460.
Mount Vernon, Jefferson County.  US-460.
McLeansboro, Hamilton County.  US-460.
Carmi, White County.  US-460.

Lost their US highway and got it back:

Carrollton, Greene County.  US-67.
Jerseyville, Jersey County.  US-67.

Parker, Arizona, county seat of La Paz County does not have a US Highway.

in before someone posts Alaska and Hawaii...

Columbiana, Alabama, the county seat of Shelby County is not served by a US highway.

Here's how all the counties in Oregon look:

Baker (Baker City): Yes, has US-30
Benton (Corvallis): Yes, has US-20, had US-99W
Clackamas (Oregon City): No, but had US-99E pre-1964, but I-205
Clatsop (Astoria): Yes, has US-30 (western terminus) and US-101
Columbia (St. Helens): Yes, has US-30
Coos (Coquille): No, though just a few miles off US-101
Crook (Prineville): Yes, has US-26, had US-126
Curry (Gold Beach): Yes, has US-101
Deschutes (Bend): Yes, has US-97 and US-20
Douglas (Roseburg): No, had US-99 but has I-5
Gilliam (Condon): No, never has.
Grant (Canyon City): Yes, has US-395
Harney (Burns): Yes, has US-20 and US-395
Hood River (Hood River): Yes, has US-30
Jackson (Medford): No, had US-99 but has I-5
Jefferson (Madras): Yes, has US-26 and US-97
Josephine (Grants Pass): Yes, has US-199, had US-99
Klamath (Klamath Falls): Yes, has US-97
Lake (Lakeview): Yes, has US-395
Lane (Eugene): No, had US-99 and US-126 (before that, US-28), but has I-5 and I-105
Malheur (Vale): Yes, has US-20 and US-26
Marion (Salem): No, had US-99E, would have had proposed US-320 (on OR-22), but has I-5
Morrow (Heppner): No, never has.
Multnomah (Portland): Yes, has US-26, US-30, had US-99W, US-99E, has I-5, I-205, I-405, I-84
Polk (Dallas): No, never has.  Close to former US-99W, would have had proposed US-320 (on old alignment of OR-22)
Sherman (Moro): Yes, has US-97
Tillamook (Tillamook): Yes, has US-101
Umatilla (Pendleton): Yes, has US-30, US-395
Union (La Grande): Yes, has US-30
Wallowa (Enterprise): No, never has
Wasco (The Dalles): Yes, has US-30, US-197
Washington (Hillsboro): Yes, has US-26.  Didn't have one until sometime in the early-1990s (?) after annexation
Wheeler (Fossil): No, never has
Yamhill (McMinnville): No, had US-99W

So currently, the seats of 5 counties: Gilliam, Morrow, Polk, Wallowa and Wheeler Counties have never had a US Highway.  Washington County's seat only gained it in the past quarter-century or so.

And the seats of 11 counties currently don't: the 5 previously mentioned, plus Clackamas, Coos, Douglas, Lane, Marion, and Yamhill.  Curiously, this includes the state capital and third-largest city (Salem), the former capital (Oregon City) and the second-largest city in the state (Eugene).

There's a lot of county seats in this part of the country that never have had a US Highway running through them. I'll just list Nebraska's that fit this description:
Arthur County(Arthur)
Banner County(Harrisburg)
Blaine County(Brewster)
Boone County(Albion)
Butler County(David City)
Cedar County(Hartington)
Clay County(Clay Center)(US 6 is 4 miles N.)
Custer County(Broken Bow)
Dixon County(Ponca)(US 20 is 7 miles S.)
Frontier County(Stockville)
Furnas County(Beaver City)(US 283 is 3 miles W.)
Garfield County(Burwell)
Grant County(Hyannis)
Hayes County(Hayes Center)
Knox County(Center)
Nance County(Fullerton)
Nuckolls County(Nelson)(US 136 is 4 miles S.)
Pawnee County(Pawnee City)
Perkins County(Grant)
Saline County(Wilber)
Sarpy County(Papillion)(US 75 is 5 miles E.)
Scotts Bluff County(Gering)(US 26 is 3 miles N.)
Sherman County(Loup City)
Stanton County(Stanton)(US 275 is 5 miles N.)
Thurston County(Pender)
Valley County(Ord)
Wayne County(Wayne)

In addition 4 other county seats were once served by US highways, but are not now:
Boyd County(Butte)-once served by US 281(US 281 is now 9 miles E.)
Hooker County(Mullen)-once served by US 83
McPherson County(Tryon)-once served by US 83
Pierce County(Pierce)-once served by US 81(US 81 is now 5 miles E.)

Nevada counties and service by US Route:
A US route in parentheses indicates the county seat was formerly served by the route.

Carson City: YES - US 50, US 395
Churchill Co. [Fallon]: YES - US 50, US 95
Clark Co. [Las Vegas]: YES - US 93, US 95, (US 91, US 466)
Douglas Co. [Minden]: YES - US 395
Elko Co. [Elko]: NO - (US 40)
Esmeralda Co. [Goldfield]: YES - US 95
Eureka Co. [Eureka]: YES - US 50
Humboldt Co. [Winnemucca]: YES - US 95 (US 40)
Lander Co. [Battle Mountain]: NO - (US 40)
Lincoln Co. [Pioche]: YES - US 93
Lyon Co. [Yerington]: YES - US 95 Alt (US 95)
Mineral Co. [Hawthorne]: YES - US 95
Pershing Co. [Lovelock]: YES - US 95 (US 40)
Nye Co. [Tonopah]: YES - US 6, US 95
Storey Co. [Virginia City]: NO
Washoe Co. [Reno]: YES - US 395 (US 40)
White Pine Co. [Ely]: YES - US 6, US 50, US 93


So the only Nevada county whose current* county seat has never been served by a U.S. Highway is Storey County with seat of Virginia City. However, US 50 is 8 miles south and US 395 is about 15 miles northwest.

(* = I say "current" because I know a few county seats have changed around, but I don't know all the old seats to go into more depth.)

Virginia:
Prince George, Prince George County (if I had time I would try to find others in VA)

Raymond, MS has no U.S. highway. It should be noted that the county has two seats and that the other seat has atleast 3 U.S. highways.

There's a few counties in NY I know of that don't have US Highways at all, let alone in their seats:

- Suffolk County (seat: Riverhead)
- Nassau County (seat: Mineola)
- Queens County
- Kings County (Brooklyn)
- Richmond County (Staten Island) only had US 9 run through it for 3 years in the 1930s

Quote from: 74/171FAN on May 02, 2011, 07:43:28 AM
Virginia:
Prince George, Prince George County (if I had time I would try to find others in VA)

I got some more:

Manassas (technically separate from, but still the seat of, Prince William County)
Spotsylvania (Spotsylvania County)
Lancaster (Lancaster County) - in fact, this County doesn't have a US Route
Surry (Surry County)
Sussex (Sussex County)
Lunenburg (Lunenburg County)
Charlotte C.H. (Charlotte County)
New Castle (Craig County) - another County without a US Route
Clintwood (Dickenson County) - another County without a US Route

California:
(parenthesis indicates former route)
Alameda County - Oakland - (40, 50)
Alpine County - Markleeville - no US route
Amador County - Jackson - no US route
Butte County - Oroville - no US route
Calaveras Conty - San Andreas - no US route
Colusa County - Colusa - no US route
Contra Costa County - Martinez - no US route
Del Norte County - Crescent City - 101, 199
El Dorado County - Placerville - 50
Fresno County - Fresno - (99)
Glenn County - Willows - (99W)
Humboldt County - Eureka - 101
Imperial County - El Centro - (80, 99)
Inyo County -Independence - 395 (6)
Kern County - Bakersfield - (99, 466)
Kings County - Hanford - no US route
Lake County - Lakeport - no US route
Lassen County - Susanville - no US route
Los Angeles County - Los Angeles - 101 (6, 60, 66, 70, 99)
Madera County - Madera - (99)
Marin County - San Rafael - 101
Mariposa County - Mariposa - no US route
Mendocino County - Ukiah - 101
Merced County - Merced - (99)
Modoc County - Alturas - 395 (299)
Mono County - Bridgeport - 395
Monterey County - Salinas - 101
Napa County - Napa - no US route
Nevada County - Nevada City - no US route
Orange County - Santa Ana - (101)
Placer County - Auburn - (40)
Plumas County - Qunicy - no US route
Riverside County - Riverside - (60, 91, 395)
Sacramento County - Sacramento - 50, (40, 99)
San Benito County - Hollister - no US route
San Bernardino County - San Bernardino - (66, 91, 395)
San Diego County - San Diego - (80, 101, 395)
San Francisco County - San Francisco - 101 (40, 50)
San Joaquin County - Stockton - (50, 99)
San Luis Obispo County - San Luis Obispo - 101
San Mateo County - Redwood City - 101
Santa Barbara County - Santa Barbara - 101
Santa Clara County - San Jose - 101 (48)
Santa Cruz County - Santa Cruz - no US route
Shasta County - Redding - (99, 299)
Sierra County - Downieville - no US route
Siskyou County - Yreka - (99)
Solano County - Fairfield - (40)
Sonoma County - Santa Rosa - 101
Stanislaus County - Modesto - (99)
Sutter County - Yuba City - (99E)
Tehama County - Red Bluff - (99E, 99W)
Trinity County - Weaverville - (299)
Tulare County - Visalia - no US route
Tuolumne County - Sonora - no US route
Ventura County - Ventura - 101 (399)
Yolo County - Woodland - (99W)
Yuba County - Marysville - (99E)

I did not include some routes that were in spitting distance (say, (99) for Visalia).

For Michigan, best I can tell:

(Municipality-County)

Cassopolis-Cass
Allegan-Allegan
Hastings-Barry
Ionia-Ionia
Corunna-Shiawassee
Sandusky-Sanilac
Caro-Tuscola
Bad Axe-Huron
Gladwin-Gladwin
White Cloud-Newaygo
Stanton-Montcalm
Lake City-Missaukee
Leland-Leelanau
Bellaire-Antrim
Atlanta-Montmorency
Mio-Oscoda
West Branch-Ogemaw
Newberry-Luce
Munising-Alger

Quote from: InterstateNG on May 02, 2011, 10:22:02 AM
For Michigan, best I can tell:

(Municipality-County)

Cassopolis-Cass
Allegan-Allegan
Hastings-Barry
Ionia-Ionia
Corunna-Shiawassee
Sandusky-Sanilac
Caro-Tuscola
Bad Axe-Huron
Gladwin-Gladwin
White Cloud-Newaygo
Stanton-Montcalm
Lake City-Missaukee
Leland-Leelanau
Bellaire-Antrim
Atlanta-Montmorency
Mio-Oscoda
West Branch-Ogemaw
Newberry-Luce
Munising-Alger

You can add Centreville, Hillsdale, Lapeer, Roscommon, and Eagle River (although 41 is only 2 miles away from this unincorporated place, thus no boundaries) to this list. EDIT: Forgot US-27 once ran through Roscommon.

Quote from: Tarkus on May 02, 2011, 01:51:44 AM
Here's how all the counties in Oregon look:

Baker (Baker City): Yes, has US-30
Benton (Corvallis): Yes, has US-20, had US-99W
Clackamas (Oregon City): No, but had US-99E pre-1964, but I-205
Clatsop (Astoria): Yes, has US-30 (western terminus) and US-101
Columbia (St. Helens): Yes, has US-30
Coos (Coquille): No, though just a few miles off US-101
Crook (Prineville): Yes, has US-26, had US-126
Curry (Gold Beach): Yes, has US-101
Deschutes (Bend): Yes, has US-97 and US-20
Douglas (Roseburg): No, had US-99 but has I-5
Gilliam (Condon): No, never has.
Grant (Canyon City): Yes, has US-395
Harney (Burns): Yes, has US-20 and US-395
Hood River (Hood River): Yes, has US-30
Jackson (Medford): No, had US-99 but has I-5
Jefferson (Madras): Yes, has US-26 and US-97
Josephine (Grants Pass): Yes, has US-199, had US-99
Klamath (Klamath Falls): Yes, has US-97
Lake (Lakeview): Yes, has US-395
Lane (Eugene): No, had US-99 and US-126 (before that, US-28), but has I-5 and I-105
Malheur (Vale): Yes, has US-20 and US-26
Marion (Salem): No, had US-99E, would have had proposed US-320 (on OR-22), but has I-5
Morrow (Heppner): No, never has.
Multnomah (Portland): Yes, has US-26, US-30, had US-99W, US-99E, has I-5, I-205, I-405, I-84
Polk (Dallas): No, never has.  Close to former US-99W, would have had proposed US-320 (on old alignment of OR-22)
Sherman (Moro): Yes, has US-97
Tillamook (Tillamook): Yes, has US-101
Umatilla (Pendleton): Yes, has US-30, US-395
Union (La Grande): Yes, has US-30
Wallowa (Enterprise): No, never has
Wasco (The Dalles): Yes, has US-30, US-197
Washington (Hillsboro): Yes, has US-26.  Didn't have one until sometime in the early-1990s (?) after annexation
Wheeler (Fossil): No, never has
Yamhill (McMinnville): No, had US-99W

So currently, the seats of 5 counties: Gilliam, Morrow, Polk, Wallowa and Wheeler Counties have never had a US Highway.  Washington County's seat only gained it in the past quarter-century or so.

And the seats of 11 counties currently don't: the 5 previously mentioned, plus Clackamas, Coos, Douglas, Lane, Marion, and Yamhill.  Curiously, this includes the state capital and third-largest city (Salem), the former capital (Oregon City) and the second-largest city in the state (Eugene).

Clatsop (Astoria) also used to have US 26.

Quote from: UptownRoadGeek on May 02, 2011, 08:12:00 AM
Raymond, MS has no U.S. highway. It should be noted that the county has two seats and that the other seat has atleast 3 U.S. highways.

There are a number of places in Mississippi that would fit that designation. Just a few off the top of my head:

Bruce (Calhoun County)
Raleigh (Smith County)
Kosciusko (Attala County)
Carthage (Leake County)
Philadelphia (Neshoba County)
Louisville (Winston County)
Mayersville (Issaquena County)
Ripley (Tippah County; US 72 runs through northern Tippah)
Ashland (Benton County; US 72 also runs through the northern part of the county)
Leakesville (Greene County; US 98 runs through southern Greene)
Walthall (Webster County; US 82 is five miles south at Eupora)
Charleston (Tallahatchie County; the other county seat, Sumner, is touched by US 49E)
Bay Springs & Paulding (Jasper County; I-59 & US 11 run to the southeast)
De Kalb (Kemper County; US 45 runs east of De Kalb. Two state highways run through the town)
Liberty (Amite County; US 98 cuts through the extreme northeastern portion of the county)
Lexington (Holmes County; U.S. 49E and 51 run through the county but not Lexington)
Coffeeville & Water Valley (Yalobusha County; both I-55 and US 51 runs in the western part of the county well west of the dual county seats)
Decatur (Newton County; US 80 and I-20 is seven miles south)
Houston (Chickasaw County)


Marks in Quitman County used to not have a U.S. highway running through it until U.S. 278 was duplexed with MS 6 a few years ago.

The following parish seats (to my knowledge) have neither an interstate nor US Highway:

* Franklinton, Washington Parish
* Greensburg, Saint Helena Parish
* Clinton, East Feliciana Parish
* Pointe a la Hache, Plaquemines Parish
* Chalmette, Saint Bernard Parish
* Thibodaux, Lafourche Parish
* Plaquemine, Iberville Parish
* Donaldsonville, Ascension Parish
* Saint Martinville, Saint Martin Parish
* New Roads, Pointe Coupee Parish
* Cameron, Cameron Parish
* Marksville, Avoyelles Parish
* Harrisonburg, Catahoula Parish
* Benton, Bossier Parish
* Farmerville, Union Parish
* Oak Grove, West Carroll Parish

The Minnesota list...shorter than one might otherwise expect, but that's due to several US route decommissionings over the years:

Foley (Benton County) - US 10 runs through the county but not through Foley.
Mantorville (Dodge County) - US 14 runs 3 miles away but never went through Mantorville.
Caledonia (Houston County) - US 14/61 run through the northeast corner.  Former US 16 ran east-west, but never closer than 8.5 miles to Caledonia.
Baudette (Lake of the Woods County) - One of only four counties in Minnesota that have never had a US highway, period.
Le Center (Le Sueur County) - US 169 runs through the northwest corner but nowhere near Le Center.
Ada (Norman County) - US 75 runs along the western county edge but not near Ada.
Glenwood (Pope County) - The second of the four counties that have never had a US highway.
Red Lake Falls (Red Lake County) - US 2 runs along the south county border, 8.5 miles away.
Roseau (Roseau County) - The third of the four counties never to have had a US highway.
Gaylord (Sibley County) - US 169 nicks the southeastern corner of the county.
Stillwater (Washington County) - The only one in the Twin Cities metro, though the county overall has four.
St. James (Watonwan County) - The last of the counties to have never had a US highway, period.
Buffalo (Wright County) - US 12 is 6 miles south, US 52 is 6 miles northeast.

So of 87 counties, that makes 13, with 4 of those never having had a US highway anywhere in the county.  In light of brownpelican's post, it should be noted that 11 of the 13 don't have any Interstate mileage, either.

Just for the heck of it, I'm marking the state routes that are common to some of the county seats lacking US Routes.

Missouri
Never Had
* Monticello (Lewis County)
* Edna (Knox County, MO 6, MO 15)
* Milan (Sullivan County, MO 5, MO 6)
* Gallatin (Daviess County, MO 6, MO 13)
* Maysville (Dekalb County, MO 6)
* Linnous (Linn County, MO 5)
* Shelbyville (Shelby County, MO 15)
* Richmond (Ray County, MO 13)
* Huntsville? (Moberly County; may have annexed out to US 24?)
* Fayette (Howard County, MO 5)
* Hermann (Gasconade County, MO 19)
* Hillsboro (Jefferson County, MO 21 as a freeway)
* Potosi (Washington County, MO 8, MO 21)
* Steelville (Crawford County, MO 8, MO 19)
* Tuscumbia (Miller County, MO 52)
* Versailles (Morgan County, MO 5, MO 52)
* Clinton (Henry County, MO 7, MO 13, MO 52)
* Stockton (Cedar County, MO 32)
* Bolivar (Polk County, MO 13, MO 32)
* Salem (Dent County, MO 19, MO 32, MO 72)
* Ironton (Iron County, MO 21, MO 72)
* Centerville (Renynolds County, MO 21, MO 72)
* Eminence (Shannon County, MO 19)
* Hartville (Wright County, MO 5)
* Cassville (Barry County)
* Galena (Stone County)
* Ava (Douglas County, MO 5)
* Dexter (Stoddard County)

Total:  28
MO 5 Total:  6
MO 6 Total:  4
MO 13 Total:  4
MO 19 Total:  3

MO 19 Total:

Used To Have
* Clayton (St. Louis County, Used to have City US 50 on the southern border, then had US 40 on the southern border for a few years until the freeway opened between Brentwood Boulevard and Skinker)
* Waynesville (Pulaski County, US 66)
* Lebanon (Laclede County, US 66, still has MO 5)
* Marshfield (Webster County, US 66)
* Mount Vernon (Lawrence County, US 166)

The following Wisconsin county seats have never had a US highway, including the one I grew up in*:

Alma (Buffalo)
Balsam Lake (Polk)
Darlington (Lafayette)
Friendship (Adams)
Green Lake (Green Lake)
Juneau (Dodge)
Keshena (Menomonee)
Kewaunee (Kewaunee)
Medford (Taylor)
Monroe (Green)
Montello (Marquette)
Phillips (Price)*
Shawano (Shawano)
Siren (Burnett)
Sturgeon Bay (Door)
Wautoma (Waushara)
Wisconsin Rapids (Wood)

Then there's Baraboo, the county seat of Sauk County.  US 12 runs through West Baraboo, but not Baraboo itself, and I am not familiar with any old routing that would have taken it into Baraboo.  That may be because I just do not know.  

Washington's list is short.  Most of the ones that never had a US Highway are on the islands or on the peninsula.

Friday Harbor (San Juan)
Coupeville (Island)
Port Orchard (Kitsap)
Port Townsend (Jefferson)
Republic (Ferry)
Ephrata (Grant)
Asotin (Asotin)


Cathlamet & Stevenson were once served by US-830.

Idaho

-Valley (Cascade, only Idaho 55 and Idaho 15 before that)
-Gem (Emmett, only Idahos 16 and 52)
-Boise (Idaho City, only Idaho 21)
-Minidoka (Rupert, only Idaho 25 I believe. US-30 ran through Burley/Heyburn south of there) (ah, but you forgot that the 30->30N/30S split was in Burley, with 30N going to Heyburn/Rupert towards Pocatello and 30S going towards Log-dog Utah)
-Owyhee (Murphy, only Idaho 78)
-Teton (Driggs, only Idaho 33)

Wyoming
-all of them currently have US highways!

A list for New Jersey:

Hackensack (Bergen) - 46 comes close, but no
Mount Holly (Burlington) - 206 is close
Bridgeton (Cumberland)
Woodbury (Gloucester) - 130 is close
Paterson (Passaic) - also missed by 46, although served by I-80
Salem (Salem)
Belvidere (Warren) - again just missed by 46, not even served by any state highways

Connecticut has not had county governments since 1960. But, historically:

Fairfield County (Newtown): served by US 6, historically also by US 202
New Haven County (New Haven): served by US 1 and US 5
Middlesex County (Middletown): no service, current or historic
New London County (New London): served by US 1
Litchfield County (Litchfield): served by US 202, but only since 1974 (14 years after county governments abolished)
Hartford County (Hartford): served by US 5, US 6, and US 44
Tolland County (Rockville): no service, current or historic
Windham County (Willimantic): bypassed by US 6, historically served directly

Some counties in NY:

Niagara (Lockport): None
Erie (Buffalo): Yes (US 62)
Chautauqua (Jamestown): None (US 62 comes close, however)
Genesee (Batavia): None
Orleans (Medina): None
Monroe (Rochester): None, but used to have both US 15 and US 104.
Livingston (Geneseo): Yes (US 20A)
Wyoming (Warsaw): Yes (US 20A)
Ontario (Canandaigua): Yes (US 20)
Cattaraugus (Little Valley): None (US 219 comes close, however)
Allegany (Belmont): None
Steuben (Bath): None, but used to have US 15.
Chemung (Elmira): None
Schuyler (Watkins Glen): None
Yates (Penn Yan): None
Tompkins (Ithaca): None
Onandaga (Syracuse): Yes (US 11)
Broome (Binghamton): Yes (US 11)
Seneca (Waterloo): Yes (US 20)
Cayuga (Auburn): Yes (US 20)
Wayne (Lyons): None
Tioga (Owego): None
Cortland (Cortland): Yes (US 11)

Continuing east and north in NY:

Oswego (Oswego) - old US104
Jefferson (Watertown) - US11
St. Lawrence (Canton) - US11
Franklin (Malone) - US11
Clinton (Plattsburgh) - US9
Hamilton (Lake Pleasant) - no (Hamilton County as a whole has never had a US route run though it)
Essex (Elizabethtown) - US9
Herkimer (Herkimer) - no
Oneida (Utica) - no
Madison (Wampsville) - no
Warren (Queensbury) - US9
Saratoga (Ballston Spa) - no
Washington (Fort Edward) - US4
Montgomery (Fonda) - no
Fulton (Johnstown) - no
Schenectady (Schenectady) - no
Albany (Albany) - US9, US20
Rensselaer (Troy[let]) - US4

Here's Iowa's list (county name in parentheses):

Allison (Butler)*
Bedford (Taylor)*
Centerville (Appanoose)*
Clarion (Wright)
Corydon (Wayne)
Cresco (Howard)
Dakota City (Humboldt)**
Eldora (Hardin)
Elkader (Clayton)
Estherville (Emmet)*
Greenfield (Adair)
Grundy Center (Grundy)
Guthrie Center (Guthrie)*
Keosauqua (Van Buren)*
Knoxville (Marion)*
Orange City (Sioux)
Pocahontas (Pocahontas)*
Sibley (Osceola)
Sigourney (Keokuk)*
Tipton (Cedar)
Washington (Washington)
Waukon (Allamakee)
*These counties have no US highways, period. All others have at least one US highway that misses the county seat.
**US 169 runs through the neighboring city of Humboldt, which is not the seat of Humboldt County.

Historically, US 75 ran through Onawa (seat of Monona County) but not anymore.

West Virginia:

Brooke (Wellsburg)
Calhoun (Grantsville)
Hancock (New Cumberland)
Lincoln (Hamlin)
Mason (Point Pleasant) *
Pleasants (Saint Marys)
Preston (Kingwood)
Putnam (Winfield) **
Ritchie (Harrisville)
Summers (Hinton)
Tyler (Middlebourne)
Wayne (Wayne) ***
Wezel (New Martinsville)
Wirt (Elizabeth)
Wyoming (Pineville) ****

* US 35 entered WV by crossing the Ohio on the north bank of the Kanawha via the Silver Bridge and was thus Main St. in Point Pleasant.  When the bridge colapsed, the replacement entered on the south bank of the Kanawha, in the town of Henderson, opposite Point Pleasant.  While US 35 uses Point Pleasant as a control city, it never actually enters it.  The old US 35 is now WV 2 and 62.

** US 35 was the main street of Winfield until the new 4 lane opened last year.  The new 4 lane bypasses the town to the southwest.  The old US 35 is now WV 817.

*** The original US 52 was Main Street in Wayne.  In the early 70s a new US 52 was built along the Big Sandy 8 miles to the west and the old US 52 is now WV 152.

**** If US 121/Coalfield Expressway is ever built (I will never live to see it, and doubt it will ever be built) it would pass through Pineville.

Quote from: nyratk1 on May 02, 2011, 08:13:52 AM
There's a few counties in NY I know of that don't have US Highways at all, let alone in their seats:

- Suffolk County (seat: Riverhead)
- Nassau County (seat: Mineola)
- Queens County
- Kings County (Brooklyn)
- Richmond County (Staten Island) only had US 9 run through it for 3 years in the 1930s

That was just too easy.

Huntsville, AR (Madison County) was not until 1982 when US 412 usurped AR 68

Other Arkansas County Seats

Jasper (Newton)

Dardanelle (Yell)

Paris (Logan)

Danville (Yell - Yell has 2 county seats)

Perryville (Perry)

Heber Springs (Cleburne)

That's all I can think of off-hand

Quote from: topay on May 02, 2011, 08:29:06 AM
Clintwood (Dickenson County) - another County without a US Route

Dickenson County will have US 460 before too long. Virginia recently started construction of the new US 460 route in that county, and Kentucky is inching its way toward the state line with its US 460 construction.

The following county seats in SC do not have a US highway:

Abbeville, the county seat of Abbeville County
Chesterfield, the county seat of Chesterfield County
Walhalla, the county seat of Oconee County

I had posted this same topic on my site's Facebook page (http://www.facebook.com/pahighways) awhile back.

Beaver, Beaver County
New Bloomfield, Perry County

On a side note:  Prior to 1967, every county in Pennsylvania was served by at least one US route.

Regarding the Wisconsin county seats, US 12 does in fact enter Baraboo. I've seen the signs driving through on US 12, and WisDOT's county maps confirm it: http://dot.wisconsin.gov/travel/maps/docs/counties/sauk.pdf

Rhode Island:

Providence County - Providence - US 1, US 6, US 44
Kent County - East Greenwich - US 1
Washington County - South Kingstown - US 1
Bristol County - Bristol - never served by a US Highway
Newport County - Newport - never served by a US highway


Massachusetts:

Berkshire County - Pittsfield - US 7 and US 20
Franklin County - Greenfield - US 5
Hampshire County - Northampton - US 5
Hampden County - Springfield - US 5 and US 20
Worcester County - Worcester - US 20
Middlesex County - two seats: Cambridge and Lowell - both served by US 3
Essex County - two seats: Salem and Lawrence - both never served by a US highway
Suffolk County - Boston - US 1, US 3, US 20
Norfolk County - Dedham - US 1
Bristol County - Taunton - US 44
Plymouth County - Plymouth - US 44
Barnstable County - Barnstable - US 6
Dukes County - Edgartown - never served by US highway
Nantucket County - Nantucket - never served by US highway 

Maryland:

Allegany County (Cumberland): lost US 48, retains US 40, 220
Anne Arundel County (Annapolis):  US 50/301
Baltimore County (Towson): lost US 111
Calvert (Prince Frederick): never served by a US highway
Caroline (Denton): never served by a US highway
Carroll (Westminster): lost US 140
Cecil (Elkton): lost US 213, retains US 40
Charles (La Plata): US 301
Dorchester (Cambridge): US 50
Frederick (Frederick): lost US 240, retains US 15 & 340
Garrett (Oakland): US 219
Harford (Bel Air): US 1
Howard (Ellicott City): US 29 & US 40 nearby, bypasses old town center
Kent (Chestertown): lost US 213
Montgomery (Rockville): lost US 240
Prince George's (Upper Marlboro): US 301 nearby, now bypasses town center
Queen Anne's (Centreville): lost US 213
St. Mary's (Leonardtown): never served by a US highway
Somerset (Princess Anne): US 13
Talbot (Easton): US 50 (US 213 before 1949)
Washington (Hagerstown): US 11 & US 40
Wicomico (Salisbury): US 13 & US 50
Worcester (Snow Hill): US 113
Baltimore City (Baltimore): lost US 29, 111, 140, 301; retains US 1 & US 40

Counties in Indiana without a US highway:

Blackford (Hartford City)
Brown (Nashville)
Crawford (English)
Fayette (Connersville)
Grant (Marion)
Hamilton (Noblesville)
Henry (New Castle)
Madison (Anderson)
Monroe (Bloomington)
Morgan (Martinsville)
Noble (Albion)
Ohio (Rising Sun)
Perry (Tell City)
Posey (Mt. Vernon)
Switzerland (Vevay)
Tipton (Tipton)
Vermillion (Newport)
Warren (Williamsport)
Washington (Salem)
Wells (Bluffton)

Counties that once had a US Highway:

DeKalb (Auburn) had US 27 go through it at one time but it has been cut back to Ft. Wayne (despite what Rand McNally says.)
Harrison (Corydon) had US 460 go through it along what I believe is now SR 62 but that was decommisioned
Spencer (Rockport) had US 231 go through the county seat until recently when the route was transfered to a new expressway and river crossing.

Two more to add to the Indiana list:

Pike (Petersburg)
Warrick (Boonville)

Madison County does not have a US Highway but does have Interstate 69.

Also of note, seven of the counties have no US nor interstate highway anywhere in the county at all:

Blackford
Brown
Fayette
Monroe
Ohio
Pike
Switzerland

I would also like to suggest Bloomington and Monroe County as possibly the most populous county seat and county anywhere in the continental US without any US or interstate highway.

Well, Bloomington has no US and Interstate highway for now, that may be changing by 2014 if I-69 is built up to at least SR 37.

QuoteI would also like to suggest Bloomington and Monroe County as possibly the most populous county seat and county anywhere in the continental US without any US or interstate highway.

There are 4 counties in California that are as large or larger than Monroe County.  And while 3 of the 4 are along the former US 99, one isn't:  Santa Cruz County, which has twice the population of Monroe County.  There's a few other counties scattered around (Cumberland, NJ; Kitsap, WA; Brazoria, TX).

Minor correction to my New Jersey list... US 46 is closer to Paterson than I thought, and in fact, if you're heading westbound, the ramp you take at the NJ 20 interchange does clip the southeast corner of the city limits.

Similarly (this one I had correct), US 9 just barely clips Freehold Boro (which is separate from Freehold Township) at the CR 537.  That one doesn't really make a difference though, as US 9 originally ran through downtown on what is now NJ 79.

(I have no clue what historical alignments of US 46 around Paterson are; it may have historically served Paterson more legitimately.)

Quote from: Kacie Jane on May 12, 2011, 07:35:19 PM
Minor correction to my New Jersey list... US 46 is closer to Paterson than I thought, and in fact, if you're heading westbound, the ramp you take at the NJ 20 interchange does clip the southeast corner of the city limits.

Similarly (this one I had correct), US 9 just barely clips Freehold Boro (which is separate from Freehold Township) at the CR 537.  That one doesn't really make a difference though, as US 9 originally ran through downtown on what is now NJ 79.

(I have no clue what historical alignments of US 46 around Paterson are; it may have historically served Paterson more legitimately.)

US 46 originally followed the long form of NJ 62 - Union Blvd., Totowa Rd., across the river and up to McBride. It then went into downtown and came out on Market St. and ended up on the bridge that leads east from the NJ 20 interchange, straight across all of Bergen County to Hackensack, down the Turnpike there and across Hendricks Causeway to US 1/9, followed NJ 5 (or an even older alignment prior) to the ferry on the river.

I see someone has already given a lot of Mississippi examples.  I would think that the South is where you'd find most of these since we have so very, very many counties.  MS has something like 83 counties, which is absurd when you consider that the population of the entire state is considerably less than most large cities.

This is why I roll my eyes when I hear someone say that this or that part of the state budget needs to be cut because "we just can't afford it" (and this isn't a democrat or republican thing - while the specific budget items being proposed for cuts might be different depending on party, the idea that we MUST modify those things and not our god-given county lines is almost universal).

Having fewer counties might even help to improve roads, since fewer political power brokers would be involved in planning new routes and upgrades.

Consider, however, that for virtually all of the south, the basic/core level of local government is the county.  It's not like the Midwest or the Northeast that has townships/towns as the core level of local government.  Connecticut, in particular, has effectively "eliminated" the county in all but name.

Quote from: froggie on May 16, 2011, 06:58:10 AM
Consider, however, that for virtually all of the south, the basic/core level of local government is the county.  It's not like the Midwest or the Northeast that has townships/towns as the core level of local government.  Connecticut, in particular, has effectively "eliminated" the county in all but name.

Yeah, that's a good point, but do those townships really do as much as a county does?  By that I mean do they run their own school systems, law enforcement agencies, court systems, road maintenance systems, etc?  I don't think so, but if I'm wrong then I obviously need to do a bit more reading about townships.

My issue is with the tiny size of many of our counties in this state and others like it.  Some of them have no more than a few thousand people, and I cannot understand why they can't be combined with other, surrounding and usually also quite small counties.

I'm sure you know that these counties were created at a time when automobiles were only dreamed of, if that.  A fifty-mile journey would require a day or more by horseback, so having many geographically small counties was the only way to make gov't accessible to most citizens.  Today, not only can we travel fifty miles in less than an hour, we can transact business with most government agencies instantaneously from any place with an internet connection.  Having all these tiny little counties, each with its own full-scale government, just doesn't make sense in the 21st century.  And if we're really so desperate to save money, why isn't anyone saying anything along these lines?

To tie this back to the thread's topic, I'll repeat that I believe fewer counties might very well mean better roads.  If we combine all the correct responses to the OP that've been posted so far (and we're on page 2, I see) we'd have an exceedingly long list, don't you think?  That list ought to be a lot shorter, imo, and not because we need more US highways.

Quote from: berberry on May 16, 2011, 12:51:40 PM
Yeah, that's a good point, but do those townships really do as much as a county does?  By that I mean do they run their own school systems, law enforcement agencies, court systems, road maintenance systems, etc?  I don't think so, but if I'm wrong then I obviously need to do a bit more reading about townships.

It depends on the specific township. Some townships will provide their own police or fire services while others will either contract to a county or other municipality for either service. At least in Michigan, public school districts are their own governmental entities and the other local governmental entities have no say over how they're run. As to road maintenance, townships in Michigan are expected to kick in a certain percentage of funding to road maintenance for the county roads that aren't designated county-primary, usually more if there's a project a township really desires, but the townships don't have their own road commission for the most part. The courts are mainly state-level divided into districts or circuits, but most of those will have jurisdiction over one county. (Of course, counties with larger populations will have more than one district and circuit.) There really are no "township courts."

Quote from: nyratk1 on May 02, 2011, 08:13:52 AM

- Richmond County (Staten Island) only had US 9 run through it for 3 years in the 1930s

What was US 9's Staten Island routing?

Quote from: TheStranger on May 16, 2011, 02:11:12 PM

Quote from: nyratk1 on May 02, 2011, 08:13:52 AM

- Richmond County (Staten Island) only had US 9 run through it for 3 years in the 1930s

What was US 9's Staten Island routing?

From NYCRoads:
"Prior to 1931, US 9 exited Broadway at 125th Street, and went over a trans-Hudson ferry to Edgewater, New Jersey. From 1931 to 1934, US 9 traveled down Broadway to South Ferry, where it went over the Staten Island Ferry to Hylan Boulevard in Staten Island"

If I'm not mistaken, only one of Oklahoma's 77 county seats has never had a U.S. Highway: Stigler. (I'm counting Hobart as close enough to US 183; Walters was on the original US 70 alignment via Wichita Falls-Randlett-Walters-Comanche-Waurika.)

Quote from: berberry on May 16, 2011, 12:51:40 PM

Quote from: froggie on May 16, 2011, 06:58:10 AM
Consider, however, that for virtually all of the south, the basic/core level of local government is the county.  It's not like the Midwest or the Northeast that has townships/towns as the core level of local government.  Connecticut, in particular, has effectively "eliminated" the county in all but name.

Yeah, that's a good point, but do those townships really do as much as a county does?  By that I mean do they run their own school systems, law enforcement agencies, court systems, road maintenance systems, etc?

Quote from: rawmustard on May 16, 2011, 01:48:32 PM
It depends on the specific township. As to road maintenance, townships in Michigan are expected to kick in a certain percentage of funding to road maintenance for the county roads that aren't designated county-primary, usually more if there's a project a township really desires, but the townships don't have their own road commission for the most part.

My home township in Ohio has law enforcement which I've never seen, a fire department, zoning enforcement, and a Road And Cemetery Department.

Michigan counties that have never had a US highway:
Barry - Hastings
Gladwin - Gladwin
Lapeer - Lapeer
Leelanau - Leland
Luce - Newberry
Missaukee - Lake City
Montmorency - Atlanta
Newaygo - White Cloud
Ogemaw - West Branch
Oscoda - Mio
Shiawassee - Corunna
Tuscola - Caro
Michigan counties that were served by a US highway at one time:
Calhoun - Marshall (US-12 and US-27 used to intersect in Marshall)
Chippewa - Sault Ste. Marie (US-2 used to enter Sault Ste. Marie until the 1980s)
Eaton - Charlotte (US-27 went through Charlotte)
Huron - Bad Axe (US-25 ran along the Lake Huron shoreline, but never entered Bad Axe)
Ionia - Ionia (US-16 never entered Ionia)
Macomb - Mount Clemens (US-25 went through Mount Clemens)
Otsego - Gaylord (US-27 went through Gaylord before I-75)
Saint Clair - Port Huron (US-25 went through Port Huron)
Sanilac - Sandusky (US-25 ran along the Lake Huron shoreline, but never entered Sandusky)
Michigan counties that have a US highway but does not enter its county seat:
Alger - Munising (US-41 passes through the southwest portion of the county)
Allegan - Allegan (US-31 and US-131 pass through the western and eastern sides of the county respectively)
Antrim - Bellaire (US-31 and US-131 pass through the western and eastern sides of the county respectively)
Cass - Cassopolis (US-12, and US-112 before it, stay south of Cassopolis)
Crawford - Grayling (US-27 went through Grayling, US-127 ends in the southern portion of the county)
Hillsdale - Hillsdale (US-12 misses Hillsdale to the north)
Keweenaw - Eagle River (US-41 passes two miles south)
Livingston - Howell (US-23 passes through the eastern portion of the county, but US-16 used to go through Howell)
Montcalm - Stanton (US-131 clips the western portion of the county)
Roscommon - Roscommon (US-127 passes through the western portion of the county)
Saint Joseph - Centreville (US-131 and US-12 miss Centreville to the west and south, respectively)
Van Buren - Paw Paw (US-12 went through Paw Paw, US-31 passes through the western portion of the county)

It's not easy to find many in Kansas because there's a lot of east-west U.S. highways.

A list I don't think is complete but do think is very close to it:
Alma-Wabaunsee County: Only K-99.
Anthony-Harper County: K-2, maybe K-14, K-44 and K-179.
Cottonwood Falls-Chase County: Only K-177.
Dighton-Lane County: K-23 and K-96.
Ellsworth-Ellsworth County: K-14, K-140 and K-156 (K-140 is a former routing of U.S. 40 and K-156 was once U.S. 156).
Girard-Crawford County: K-7 and K-47.
Gove-Gove County: K-23 only.
Howard-Elk County: K-99 only.
Leoti-Wichita County: K-25 and K-96.
Marion-Marion County: U.S. 56 and U.S. 77 both come very close. But only K-256 actually goes through town.
Minneapolis-Ottawa County: Served by U.S. 81, but only K-106 actually runs through it.
Mound City-Linn County: K-7 and K-52.
Westmoreland-Pottawatomie County: Only K-99.

Russell Springs was the seat of Logan County until 1963. It has only ever had K-25 running through it. (Oakley is now the seat.)

Erie-Neosho County was once served only by K-108 inside the city limits. But now that the city has annexed land along U.S. 59, it doesn't count anymore. (And K-108 was decommissioned; because of it's U-shape with both ends meeting at U.S. 59, directional banners were never posted on it.)

Fredonia-Wilson County was once served only by K-39, K-47 and K-96. However, the routing of U.S. 400 just east of town has led to the truncation of all three routes. K-39 and K-47 now end at U.S. 400 at different points outside the city limits. K-96 was truncated all the way back to Wichita. So unless Fredonia decides to annex some land, it is currently served directly by no numbered route at all.

Paola-Miami County once had U.S. 169 passing through it. Then it was moved to a new routing east of the city and it became served directly by a K-xxx route (I tried finding it on route56.com but I couldn't; I remember it being K-2xx). But then that route was eliminated when Paola annexed U.S. 169. So Paola had a U.S. route, lost it, then regained it.

Quote from: apeman33 on August 14, 2011, 01:04:03 AM
Paola-Miami County once had U.S. 169 passing through it. Then it was moved to a new routing east of the city and it became served directly by a K-xxx route (I tried finding it on route56.com but I couldn't; I remember it being K-2xx).

http://www.ksdot.org/burtransplan/maps/HistoricStateMaps.asp

Texas--

Rockport (Aransas Co.)
Archer City (Archer Co.)
Jourdanton (Atascosa Co.)
Bellville (Austin Co.)
Bandera (Bandera Co.)
Bastrop (Bastrop Co.)
Meridian (Bosque Co.)
Boston (Bowie Co.) -- official seat, although the courthouse is in New Boston, which has US 82 through it
Angleton (Brazoria Co.)
Silverton (Briscoe Co.)
Caldwell (Burleson Co.)
Anahuac (Chambers Co.)
Morton (Cochran Co.)
Robert Lee (Coke Co.)
Cooper (Delta Co.)
San Diego (Duval Co.)
Marlin (Falls Co.)
Garden City (Glasscock Co.)
Anderson (Grimes Co.)
Spearman (Hansford Co.)
Stinnett (Hutchinson Co.)
Fort Davis (Jeff Davis Co.)
Hebbronville (Jim Hogg Co.)
Jayton (King Co.) -- not by much, US 380 passes by less than 2 miles to the south
Kerrville (Kerr Co.)
Groesbeck (Limestone Co.)
Lipscomb (Lipscomb Co.)
Llano (Llano Co.)
Mentone (Loving Co.)
Bay City (Matagorda Co.)
Tilden (McMullen Co.)
Montague (Montague Co.)
Hemphill (Sabine Co.)
Coldspring (San Jacinto Co.)
Canton (Van Zandt Co.)
Kermit (Winkler Co.)
Quitman (Wood Co.)

(OT, Now don't, but used to have--

New Braunfels (Comal Co.) -- US 81
Ozona (Crockett Co.) -- US 290
Eastland (Eastland Co.) -- US 80
Pearsall (Frio Co.) -- US 81
Galveston (Galveston Co.) -- US 75
San Marcos (Hays Co.) -- US 81
Sierra Blanca (Hudspeth Co.) -- US 80
Cotulla (La Salle Co.) -- US 81
Centerville (Leon Co.) -- US 75
Stanton (Martin Co.) -- US 80
Colorado City (Mitchell Co.) -- US 80
Conroe (Montgomery Co.) -- US 75
Monahans (Ward Co.) -- US 80
Georgetown (Williamson Co.) -- US 81)

Quote from: NE2 on August 14, 2011, 01:42:49 AM

Quote from: apeman33 on August 14, 2011, 01:04:03 AM
Paola-Miami County once had U.S. 169 passing through it. Then it was moved to a new routing east of the city and it became served directly by a K-xxx route (I tried finding it on route56.com but I couldn't; I remember it being K-2xx).

http://www.ksdot.org/burtransplan/maps/HistoricStateMaps.asp

That's not Scott's Job, that's my job. The reason he couldn't find in on my Kansas Highways page was because I didn't put it in. That has been rectified.

Kansas Highway 263, AKA Baptiste Drive
http://www.route56.com/highways/highways.php?hwy=263

As for the original topic: Since the thread is about county seats that NEVER had a US highway, three cities can be removed from Scott's list.
Ellsworth - as Scott noted, it was originally adjacent to US 40 and US 156.
Marion  - US 50N/56 went directly through Ellsworth until ~ 1991.
Minneapolis - US 81 went through Minneapolis until ~ 1950.

I'd also consider Fredonia to be served by US 400, despite the fact that 400 does not enter the city limits. Also, 400 would have entered the city limits prior to the opening of the new bypass alignment.

The original route through Erie was K-6. US 59 may have replaced K-6 through town prior to the new alignment on the west side of Erie. (In any case, I'd would consider Erie as having US 59 for the same reason as Fredonia having US 400.

There are two that Scott Missed:

Tribune - Greeley County: K-27 and K-96
Lincoln - Lincoln County: K-14 and K-18

I apologize for having not read the entire topic, but has anyone brought up Markleeville, CA, yet? It's the county seat of Alpine County and the only numbered highway is CA-89, which has never been a US highway at any point in its past. (Compared to, say, CA-70 or something else.)

Most county seats in northern Ohio have at least one US highway running through town.  A few exceptions I can think of are:

Lima in Allen County (previously had US Route 30-S)
Jefferson in Ashtabula County
Carrollton in Carroll County
Port Clinton in Ottawa County
Ravenna in Portage County

Quote from: route56 on August 24, 2011, 01:00:40 AM

Quote from: NE2 on August 14, 2011, 01:42:49 AM

Quote from: apeman33 on August 14, 2011, 01:04:03 AM
Paola-Miami County once had U.S. 169 passing through it. Then it was moved to a new routing east of the city and it became served directly by a K-xxx route (I tried finding it on route56.com but I couldn't; I remember it being K-2xx).

http://www.ksdot.org/burtransplan/maps/HistoricStateMaps.asp

That's not Scott's Job, that's my job. The reason he couldn't find in on my Kansas Highways page was because I didn't put it in. That has been rectified.

Kansas Highway 263, AKA Baptiste Drive
http://www.route56.com/highways/highways.php?hwy=263

I was starting to think, "I know there was something in Paola! I know it!"  :crazy:

Quote from: route56 on August 24, 2011, 01:00:40 AM
As for the original topic: Since the thread is about county seats that NEVER had a US highway, three cities can be removed from Scott's list.
Ellsworth - as Scott noted, it was originally adjacent to US 40 and US 156.
Marion  - US 50N/56 went directly through Ellsworth until ~ 1991.
Minneapolis - US 81 went through Minneapolis until ~ 1950.

I wasn't sure about the other two. Actually, I find it a bit of a surprise 81 went through Minneapolis. I've only been there once, but that would have required 81 to go quite a bit out of the way to get there, would it not?

Quote from: route56 on August 24, 2011, 01:00:40 AM
I'd also consider Fredonia to be served by US 400, despite the fact that 400 does not enter the city limits. Also, 400 would have entered the city limits prior to the opening of the new bypass alignment.

I'd forgotten it did, despite having seen that myself. (Slaps self on wrist)

Quote from: route56 on August 24, 2011, 01:00:40 AM
The original route through Erie was K-6. US 59 may have replaced K-6 through town prior to the new alignment on the west side of Erie. (In any case, I'd would consider Erie as having US 59 for the same reason as Fredonia having US 400.

There are two that Scott Missed:

Tribune - Greeley County: K-27 and K-96
Lincoln - Lincoln County: K-14 and K-18

I knew I didn't have them all but I should have gotten Tribune.  :banghead:

La Belle, Florida is served by SR 29 and SR 80, and is the county seat of Hendry County.

Come to think of it, I can't think of any Florida counties that don't have a US Route run through at least a little part of it. Maybe Union or Dixie County, but I don't have a map handy.

Quote from: brownpelican on May 02, 2011, 05:12:51 PM
The following parish seats (to my knowledge) have neither an interstate nor US Highway:

* Franklinton, Washington Parish
* Greensburg, Saint Helena Parish
* Clinton, East Feliciana Parish
* Pointe a la Hache, Plaquemines Parish
* Chalmette, Saint Bernard Parish
* Thibodaux, Lafourche Parish
* Plaquemine, Iberville Parish
* Donaldsonville, Ascension Parish
* Saint Martinville, Saint Martin Parish
* New Roads, Pointe Coupee Parish
* Cameron, Cameron Parish
* Marksville, Avoyelles Parish
* Harrisonburg, Catahoula Parish
* Benton, Bossier Parish
* Farmerville, Union Parish
* Oak Grove, West Carroll Parish

Also Assumption Parish (Napoleonville) and
St. James Parish (Convent)

In Grant Parish (Colfax), US 71 had an old alignment through the center of town on LA 158, right?
And what about Tensas Parish (St. Joseph)? I know the city proper is to the east of US 65, so do we count it or no? I'd love to discount US 425 and say that Franklin Parish (Winnsboro) is on the list too ;-)

Quote from: sandwalk on August 24, 2011, 01:51:00 PM
Lima in Allen County (previously had US Route 30-S)

Lima also had US 25.

Scanning across the southern part of the state, I think we can add to the list:
* West Union, Adams County
* Batavia, Clermont County
* New Lexington, Perry County
* McConnelsville, Morgan County

Maybe?
* Caldwell, Noble County – has I-77, did it have US 21?
* Woodsfield, Monroe County – has OH 800, was this portion formerly US 21?  (WP says that parts of OH 800 were formerly OH 8, and parts of OH 8 were formerly US 21, but it's not quickly obvious which parts of US 21, if any, are now OH 800...)

Quote from: vtk on August 26, 2011, 04:58:08 PM

Quote from: sandwalk on August 24, 2011, 01:51:00 PM
Lima in Allen County (previously had US Route 30-S)

Lima also had US 25.

Scanning across the southern part of the state, I think we can add to the list:
* West Union, Adams County
* Batavia, Clermont County
* New Lexington, Perry County
* McConnelsville, Morgan County

Maybe?
* Caldwell, Noble County — has I-77, did it have US 21?
* Woodsfield, Monroe County — has OH 800, was this portion formerly US 21?  (WP says that parts of OH 800 were formerly OH 8, and parts of OH 8 were formerly US 21, but it's not quickly obvious which parts of US 21, if any, are now OH 800...)

It looks like Caldwell did have US-21 while Woodsfield did not, as Woodsfield is due east of Caldwell.

Washington State Counties

1.) Adams County (Ritzville) I-90, US-395
2.) Asotin County (Asotin) - No US Highway
3.) Benton County (Prosser) - I-82, US-12
4.) Chelan County (Wenatchee) - US-2, US-97
5.) Clallum County (Port Angeles) - US-101
6.) Clark County (Vancouver) - I-5... Former US-99 and US-830
7.) Columbia County (Dayton) - US-12
8.) Cowlitz County (Kelso) - I-5, Former US-99
9.) Douglas County (Waterville) - US-2
10.) Ferry County (Republic) - No US Highway
11.) Franklin County (Pasco) - I-182, US-12
12.) Garfield County (Pomeroy) - US-12
13.) Grant County (Ephrata) - No US Highway
14.) Grays Harbor County (Montesano) - US-12
15.) Island County (Coupeville) - No US Highway
16.) Jefferson County (Port Townsend) - No US Highway
17.) King County (Seattle) - I-5, I-90 Former US-99
18.) Kitsap County (Port Orchard) - No US Highway
19.) Kittitas County (Ellensburg) - I-82, I-90, US-97
20.) Klickitat County (Goldendale) - US-97
21.) Lewis County (Chehalis) - I-5, US-12, Former US-99
22.) Lincoln County (Davenport) - US-2
23.) Mason County (Shelton) - US-101
24.) Okanogan County (Okanogan) - US-97
25.) Pacific County (South Bend) - US-101
26.) Pend Orielle County (Newport) - US-2
27.) Pierce County (Tacoma) - I-5, I-705, Former US-99
28.) San Juan County (Friday Harbor) - No US Highways
29.) Skagit County (Mount Vernon) - I-5
30.) Skamania County (Stevenson) - Former US-830
31.) Snohomish County (Everett) - I-5, Former US-99
32.) Spokane County (Spokane) - I-90, US-2, US-195, US-395
33.) Stevens County (Colville) - US-395
34.) Thurston County (Olympia) - I-5, US-101, Former US-99
35.) Wahkiakum County (Cathlamet) - Former US-830
36.) Walla Walla County (Walla Walla) - US-12
37.) Whatcom County (Bellingham) - I-5
38.) Whitman County (Colfax) - US-195
39.) Yakima County (Yakima) - I-82, US-12, US-97

Out of 39 counties in Washington State, seven of those counties have never had a US Highway. Those are all represented in bold.

Originally I had thought that there were ten counties but I was mistaken.

Waterville, Shelton, and South Bend are all directly along US highways

I'll edit. Whoops. Man you're quick =)

Here's the list for South Dakota... SD US Routes have never hugely changed, with the exception of the decommissioning of US 16 (east of Rapid City/I-90, with the sections east of Rapid having both secret and signed state highways, and county roads) and US 77 (With I-29, US 77 was replaced with SD 15, SD 115, and county roads).  The rest of the other US Highway routes in SD have all seen minor modifications with alignments:  US 12, US 14, US 18, US 81, US 83, US 85, US 183, US 212, US 281, and US 385.

The county seat is first, with the county, and the highway that serves the town in parentheses.

Bison - Perkins County (SD Highway 20)
Britton - Marshall County (SD Highway 10)
Flandreau - Moody County (SD Highway 13/32)
Gann Valley - Buffalo County (SD Highway 45)
Hayti - Hamlin County (SD Highway 21)
Howard - Miner County (SD Highway 34)
Leola - McPherson County (SD Highway 10)
Madison - Lake County (SD Highway 34)
Parker - Turner County (SD Highway 44)
Timber Lake - Dewey County (SD Highway 20)
Tyndall - Bon Homme County (SD Highway 50)
Wessington Springs - Jerauld County (SD Highway 34)
Woonsocket - Sanborn County (SD Highway 34)

Westchester and Rockland Co's in NYS [White Plains and New City respectively]

Putnam Co NY [Carmel]

Quote from: newyorker478 on August 28, 2011, 01:27:09 AM
Westchester and Rockland Co's in NYS [White Plains and New City respectively]

White Plains had US 7 in the original 1926 plan (it would have used NY 22 from Amenia) but this may have never been signed (same caveat for US 9 on Staten Island).

Quote from: apeman33 on August 24, 2011, 02:31:36 PM
I'd forgotten it did, despite having seen that myself. (Slaps self on wrist)

I knew I didn't have them all but I should have gotten Tribune.  :banghead:

Standard procedure is a slap in the back of the head. Look up "Gibbs slap" on youtube :)

Quote from: NE2 on August 28, 2011, 01:31:42 AM

Quote from: newyorker478 on August 28, 2011, 01:27:09 AM
Westchester and Rockland Co's in NYS [White Plains and New City respectively]

White Plains had US 7 in the original 1926 plan (it would have used NY 22 from Amenia) but this may have never been signed (same caveat for US 9 on Staten Island).

never was signed

Quote from: newyorker478 on August 30, 2011, 11:40:42 PM

Quote from: NE2 on August 28, 2011, 01:31:42 AM
White Plains had US 7 in the original 1926 plan (it would have used NY 22 from Amenia) but this may have never been signed (same caveat for US 9 on Staten Island).

never was signed

Source?

Quote from: newyorker478 on August 30, 2011, 11:40:42 PM

never was signed

really?  I'd always been wondering what the first year was that NY signed its US routes.  I had heard that New York City started late (as late as 1931?) but upstate was part of the first signing of 1926.  

I've always wanted to see a New York US 7 or US 9E shield.  And New York US 2 as well, which is rare for different reasons.

Quote from: agentsteel53 on August 31, 2011, 12:28:05 AM
I had heard that New York City started late (as late as 1931?)

1934. From the New York Times, December 16, 1934:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi51.tinypic.com%2F6dwtop.png&hash=8da0b5d9b6b51340594281c9f33c25d98260b1a7) (http://i51.tinypic.com/6dwtop.png)
and December 23:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi52.tinypic.com%2F2ik8rd5.jpg&hash=acbef6174a6a865825d6eb0f436e8c23121f0418)

It was a March 1932 plan that would have taken US 9 through Staten Island.

great scans; thank you!  I am guessing that "US-9A" and "US-1A" were simply misidentified in the first photo?

the 1A is very interesting because it shows a digit "1" which I had never seen before.  Usually New York's "1" is a simple sans-serif block.  Also the absence of periods after "N" and "Y" on the 1A and 9A: it may just be the photo which washes them out - in general the stroke appears thinner, but that may just be halation.

Quote from: agentsteel53 on August 31, 2011, 12:58:25 AM
great scans; thank you!  I am guessing that "US-9A" and "US-1A" were simply misidentified in the first photo?

Presumably, as well as US 9X.

The bulk of Kentucky's counties that don't have, or never had, a US highway are in the eastern part of the state.

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.millenniumhwy.net%2Floose_pics%2Fky_counties.jpg&hash=f8f45349b7a8d5a5bc03347fc8b6dc40ce839df9)

Stolen from my mob-rule Kentucky page, where the red lines represent US highways. you can see which counties don't have them. The one exception where there is presently no US highway, where there once was, is Cumberland County, where US 37 ran along what is now KY 90.

Another possible exception is Martin County. I have recently come across official Kentucky highway documentation indicating that US 460 once ran through the county along the route of what is now KY 40.

A number of counties with US routes do not have them in the county seats.

Quote from: hbelkins on September 01, 2011, 12:05:03 AM
The one exception where there is presently no US highway, where there once was, is Cumberland County, where US 37 ran along what is now KY 90.

AASHO tried to ram it down Kentucky's throat, but it was likely never signed.

Quote from: hbelkins on September 01, 2011, 12:05:03 AM
Another possible exception is Martin County. I have recently come across official Kentucky highway documentation indicating that US 460 once ran through the county along the route of what is now KY 40.

How would this have worked? Did it use US 52 through West Virginia?

I presume it would have used US 52 -- or perhaps it would have been signed in two separate segments like US 422 is.

Quote from: NE2 on September 01, 2011, 02:38:08 AM

Quote from: hbelkins on September 01, 2011, 12:05:03 AM
The one exception where there is presently no US highway, where there once was, is Cumberland County, where US 37 ran along what is now KY 90.

AASHO tried to ram it down Kentucky's throat, but it was likely never signed.

I've never seen a US-37 shield, or even a map that shows it.  where did everyone get their information that it existed?

same with US-86, which apparently was along what later became US-82?

at least US-42 (soon to be US-48) does show up on a California map.

Quote from: agentsteel53 on September 01, 2011, 10:50:15 AM
I've never seen a US-37 shield, or even a map that shows it.  where did everyone get their information that it existed?

http://www.us-highways.com/us1.htm#US_37 says "Proposed by ASSHO[sic] 1935-1944; on many maps". I don't have any maps from that timeframe to check.

Quotesame with US-86, which apparently was along what later became US-82?

Became US 84.

Regarding US 460 in Kentucy, I have my doubts that it actually ran through Martin County.  US 460 wasn't extended west of Roanoke until the mid-40s...RVDroz (http://www.us-highways.com/us2.htm#US_460) pegs the date as 1946, while Mapmikey and I (http://www.vahighways.com/route-log/us460.htm) list it as 1947.  Either way, Virginia has always had the extension west of Roanoke along today's US 460 corridor into Kentucky, also verified by West Virginia maps of the era.

My hunch is that what HBE found was a Kentucky proposal for US 460 to be routed through Martin County, but AASHTO voted for the more southern route through western Virginia (Tazewell/Grundy/etc etc).

Quote from: agentsteel53 on September 01, 2011, 10:50:15 AM

I've never seen a US-37 shield, or even a map that shows it.  where did everyone get their information that it existed?

I first saw it on an old map of 1935 vintage. Here's a scan...

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.millenniumhwy.net%2Floose_pics%2FUS37_map.jpg&hash=2e5dd5722ce6b287b50abd03cec6c3cc15513b34)

Quote from: froggie on September 01, 2011, 07:10:03 PM

Regarding US 460 in Kentucy, I have my doubts that it actually ran through Martin County.  US 460 wasn't extended west of Roanoke until the mid-40s...RVDroz (http://www.us-highways.com/us2.htm#US_460) pegs the date as 1946, while Mapmikey and I (http://www.vahighways.com/route-log/us460.htm) list it as 1947.  Either way, Virginia has always had the extension west of Roanoke along today's US 460 corridor into Kentucky, also verified by West Virginia maps of the era.

My hunch is that what HBE found was a Kentucky proposal for US 460 to be routed through Martin County, but AASHTO voted for the more southern route through western Virginia (Tazewell/Grundy/etc etc).

What I have is a booklet called "Historic Kentucky Highways" dated May 1947, published by the Department of Highways. (Simeon Willis, governor; J. Stephen Watkins, commissioner of highways; Thomas H. Cutler, state highway engineer). US 460 is referred to as "The Great Warrior Trace" and the description reads, "From the West Virginia line..."

Milepoints are listed, with MP 0.0 shown as the West Virginia line near Kermit,and MP 33.5 listed as Paintsville.

The booklet indicates an official state highway map is inside the back cover, but there was none in the sample I have (a souvenir that my wife found and brought home for me during her recent jaunt along the US 127 yard sale).

Quote from: hbelkins on September 02, 2011, 11:33:45 AM

I first saw it on an old map of 1935 vintage. Here's a scan...

[map]

thanks for the scan!  Some of that is now US-127 (the Tenn half, mainly) while the Kentucky part is all kinds of four-digit state roads and even more obscure stuff like "Old Brownsville Road".

how do we know it wasn't signed in the field?  

Quote from: agentsteel53 on September 02, 2011, 11:48:39 AM
thanks for the scan!  Some of that is now US-127 (the Tenn half, mainly) while the Kentucky part is all kinds of four-digit state roads and even more obscure stuff like "Old Brownsville Road".

It's all just old alignments of KY 90 (which can be seen overlapping US 37 on the map).

Quote from: agentsteel53 on September 02, 2011, 11:48:39 AM
how do we know it wasn't signed in the field? 

It's presumed, since it was one of a group of routes that AASHO pushed to get rid of directional suffixes. (US 31E would have become US 143 south of Glasgow and US 37 from Glasgow to Bardstown.)

Quote from: formulanone on August 24, 2011, 03:42:27 PM
La Belle, Florida is served by SR 29 and SR 80, and is the county seat of Hendry County.

Come to think of it, I can't think of any Florida counties that don't have a US Route run through at least a little part of it. Maybe Union or Dixie County, but I don't have a map handy.

Thanks, I forgot about La Belle. The other three are Bristol (Liberty County), Blountstown (Calhoun County), and Lake Butler (Union County). And neither of them have any US Routes within their boundaries.

Alabama:
Clayton - Barbour Co
Butler - Choctaw Co
Ashland - Clay Co
Geneva - Geneva Co
Greensboro - Hale Co
Vernon - Lamar Co
Moulton - Lawrence Co
Hayneville - Lowndes Co
Carrollton - Pickens Co
Columbiana - Shelby Co
Talladega - Talladega Co
Chatom - Washington Co
Camden - Wilcox Co

Chesterfield, VA is served by VA 10, and VA 145 connects it with US 1/301. US 360 passes through the zip code but it's nowhere near the actual county seat.

If Manchester was still its own city (it became the south half of Richmond in 1910 but was Chesterfield's county seat before that) this would be a different story.

There are several in Arkansas, but I'm too lazy to look them up.  There used to be more, but since AHTD has been on their US highway commissioning spree, some of these towns are now on US routes.  For example: Nashville was once on AR 4, AR 24, and AR 27, now it's on US 278, US 371, and AR 27.

Quote from: AZDude on May 02, 2011, 12:51:42 AM
Parker, Arizona, county seat of La Paz County does not have a US Highway.

I think the reason why Parker doesn't have a US Highway is because its a fairly new county seat. La Paz County seperated from Yuma County in 1983.

Every county seat in Hawaii.

Quote from: CNGL-Leudimin on July 25, 2013, 07:31:43 AM
Every county seat in Hawaii.

We've already discussed this ad nauseam and there's no point in going through the motions again.

Quote from: NE2 on July 25, 2013, 03:54:28 PM
Yawn.

FTFY

 Off  the  top  of  my  head,New mexico counties  which  have  never  had  a  US route  through  the  county  seat,  only  three:
                      Harding County (Mosquero)
                      Mora County  (Mora)
                      Catron County (Reserve)

Quote from: CNGL-Leudimin on July 25, 2013, 04:31:02 PM

Quote from: NE2 on July 25, 2013, 03:54:28 PM
Yawn.

FTFY

OMG no. We've finally gotten multi-word sentences out of him.

Quote from: sandiaman on July 25, 2013, 07:11:10 PM
Off  the  top  of  my  head,New mexico counties  which  have  never  had  a  US route  through  the  county  seat,  only  three:
                      Harding County (Mosquero)
                      Mora County  (Mora)
                      Catron County (Reserve)

I had missed Reserve, erroneously placing it on US 180. Stupid 1:250K topo labeling the airport as simply 'Reserve'.

Los Alamos makes four for New Mexico.

Turns out in my mapping I missed one county seat in the entire country: Nevada, Iowa.
There are four county seats named Albion, none of which has been served.

Full list according to my data (using rather strict criteria, including recent annexations not counting):

Delaware 0.0% (0/3)

District of Columbia 0.0% (0/1)

Wyoming 0.0% (0/23)

Oklahoma 2.6% (2/77): Hobart, Stigler

Pennsylvania 3.0% (2/67): Beaver, New Bloomfield

Nevada 5.9% (1/17): Virginia City

South Carolina 6.5% (3/46): Abbeville, Chesterfield, Walhalla

Arizona 6.7% (1/15): Parker

North Carolina 7.0% (7/100): Bakersville, Bayboro, Currituck, Danbury, Newland, Trenton, Troy

Florida 7.5% (5/67): Blountstown, Bristol, Fernandina Beach, LaBelle, Lake Butler

Georgia 10.1% (16/159): Buena Vista, Canton, Carnesville, Elberton, Fayetteville, Fort Gaines, Gibson, Jasper, Metter, Monticello, Morgan, Newton, Oglethorpe, Sandersville, Sparta, Springfield

Kansas 10.5% (11/105): Alma, Anthony, Dighton, Girard, Gove, Howard, Leoti, Lincoln, Mound City, Tribune, Westmoreland

Connecticut 11.1% (1/9): Rockville

New Mexico 12.1% (4/33): Los Alamos, Mora, Mosquero, Reserve

Maine 12.5% (2/16): Dover-Foxcroft, Paris

Maryland 12.5% (3/24): Denton, Leonardtown, Prince Frederick

Ohio 12.5% (11/88): Batavia, Carrollton, Jefferson, McConnelsville, New Lexington, Newark, Port Clinton, Ravenna, Wauseon, West Union, Woodsfield

Texas 12.6% (32/254): Anahuac, Anderson, Angleton, Archer City, Bandera, Bay City, Bellville, Boston, Caldwell, Canton, Coldspring, Cooper, Fort Davis, Garden City, Groesbeck, Hemphill, Jourdanton, Kermit, Lipscomb, Llano, Marlin, Mentone, Meridian, Montague, Morton, Quitman, Robert Lee, Rockport, Silverton, Spearman, Stinnett, Tilden

Idaho 13.6% (6/44): Cascade, Driggs, Emmett, Idaho City, Murphy, Nezperce

Minnesota 13.8% (12/87): Baudette, Buffalo, Caledonia, Foley, Gaylord, Glenwood, Le Center, Mantorville, Red Lake Falls, Roseau, St. James, Stillwater

Montana 14.3% (8/56): Circle, Ekalaka, Jordan, Plentywood, Scobey, Sidney, Virginia City, Winnett

Oregon 16.7% (6/36): Condon, Dallas, Enterprise, Fossil, Heppner, Hillsboro

Utah 17.2% (5/29): Castle Dale, Loa, Manila, Randolph, Tooele

Alabama 17.4% (12/69): Ashland, Butler, Camden, Carrollton, Clayton, Columbiana, Geneva, Greensboro, Hayneville, Marion, Moulton, Vernon

Arkansas 17.6% (15/85): Arkansas City, Booneville, Charleston, Danville, Dardanelle, Des Arc, Harrisburg, Heber Springs, Jasper, Lake City, Melbourne, Mountain View, Murfreesboro, Paris, Perryville

Washington 17.9% (7/39): Asotin, Coupeville, Ephrata, Friday Harbor, Port Orchard, Port Townsend, Republic

Virginia 19.2% (19/99): Charles City, Charlotte Court House, Chesterfield, Clintwood, King and Queen Court House, King George, King William, Lancaster, Lunenburg, Manassas, Mathews, Montross, New Castle, New Kent, Prince George, Princess Anne, Spotsylvania, Surry, Sussex

Tennessee 20.0% (19/95): Altamont, Byrdstown, Carthage, Celina, Centerville, Charlotte, Decatur, Decaturville, Dresden, Erin, Gainesboro, Hartsville, Huntsville, Lafayette, Livingston, Lynchburg, Sneedville, Spencer, Tiptonville

South Dakota 18.8% (12/64): Bison, Britton, Flandreau, Gann Valley, Howard, Leola, Parker, Timber Lake, Tyndall, Vermillion, Wessington Springs, Woonsocket

Colorado 21.9% (14/64): Aspen, Breckenridge, Central City, Conejos, Creede, Cripple Creek, Kiowa, Lake City, Meeker, Ordway, San Luis, Telluride, Walden, Westcliffe

Iowa 22.0% (22/100): Allison, Bedford, Centerville, Clarion, Corydon, Cresco, Dakota City, Eldora, Elkader, Estherville, Greenfield, Grundy Center, Guthrie Center, Keosauqua, Knoxville, Orange City, Pocahontas, Sibley, Sigourney, Tipton, Washington, Waukon

Kentucky 22.1% (27/122): Beattyville, Booneville, Brooksville, Brownsville, Burkesville, Burlington, Calhoun, Campton, Carlisle, Columbia, Flemingsburg, Hazard, Hickman, Hindman, Independence, Inez, Irvine, Jackson, La Grange, Monticello, Sandy Hook, Shepherdsville, Stanton, Taylorsville, Tompkinsville, Vanceburg, Whitesburg

West Virginia 23.6% (13/55): Clay, Elizabeth, Grantsville, Hamlin, Harrisville, Hinton, Kingwood, Middlebourne, New Cumberland, New Martinsville, Pineville, Webster Springs, Wellsburg

Indiana 23.9% (22/92): Albion, Anderson, Bloomington, Bluffton, Connersville, English, Hartford City, Marion, Martinsville, Mount Vernon, Nashville, New Castle, Newport, Noblesville, Petersburg, Rising Sun, Salem, Tell City, Tipton, Vernon, Vevay, Williamsport

California 25.9% (15/58): Colusa, Downieville, Hanford, Hollister, Jackson, Lakeport, Mariposa, Markleeville, Napa, Nevada City, San Andreas, Santa Cruz, Sonora, Susanville, Visalia

Missouri 25.9% (30/116): Ava, Bloomfield, Cassville, Centerville, Clinton, Edina, Eminence, Fayette, Galena, Gallatin, Hartville, Hermann, Hillsboro, Ironton, Kingston, Linneus, Marble Hill, Maysville, Milan, Montgomery City, Monticello, Osceola, Plattsburg, Potosi, Richmond, Salem, Shelbyville, Steelville, Tuscumbia, Versailles

Mississippi 26.1% (24/92): Ackerman, Ashland, Bay Springs, Carthage, Charleston, Coffeeville, Decatur, DeKalb, Houston, Kosciusko, Leakesville, Lexington, Liberty, Louisville, Mayersville, Paulding, Philadelphia, Pittsboro, Raleigh, Raymond, Ripley, Rosedale, Walthall, Water Valley

Vermont 26.7% (4/15): Chelsea, Guildhall, Hyde Park, Newfane

Wisconsin 27.8% (20/72): Alma, Balsam Lake, Darlington, Friendship, Green Lake, Juneau, Kenosha, Keshena, Kewaunee, Medford, Monroe, Montello, Phillips, Racine, Shawano, Siren, Sturgeon Bay, Washburn, Wautoma, Wisconsin Rapids

New Jersey 28.6% (6/21): Belvidere, Bridgeton, Hackensack, Mount Holly, Salem, Woodbury

Michigan 28.9% (24/83): Allegan, Atlanta, Bad Axe, Bellaire, Caro, Cassopolis, Centreville, Corunna, Eagle River, Gladwin, Hastings, Hillsdale, Ionia, Lake City, Lapeer, Leland, Mio, Munising, Newberry, Roscommon, Sandusky, Stanton, West Branch, White Cloud

Nebraska 29.0% (27/93): Albion, Arthur, Beaver City, Brewster, Broken Bow, Burwell, Center, Clay Center, David City, Fullerton, Gering, Grant, Harrisburg, Hartington, Hayes Center, Hyannis, Loup City, Nelson, Ord, Papillion, Pawnee City, Pender, Ponca, Stanton, Stockville, Wayne, Wilber

Massachusetts 29.4% (5/17): Brockton, Edgartown, Lawrence, Nantucket, Salem

Louisiana 31.3% (20/64): Benton, Cameron, Chalmette, Clinton, Donaldsonville, Edgard, Farmerville, Franklinton, Greensburg, Hahnville, Harrisonburg, Marksville, Napoleonville, Natchitoches, New Roads, Oak Grove, Plaquemine, Pointe a la Hache, St. Martinville, Thibodaux

Illinois 33.3% (34/102): Albion, Aledo, Benton, Cambridge, Charleston, Chester, Elizabethtown, Golconda, Hardin, Hennepin, Hillsboro, Jonesboro, Lacon, Marion, Monticello, Mound City, Mount Carmel, Murphysboro, Newton, Oquawka, Oregon, Pekin, Petersburg, Pinckneyville, Robinson, Shawneetown, Shelbyville, Sullivan, Sycamore, Taylorville, Toledo, Toulon, Waterloo, Yorkville

North Dakota 37.7% (20/53): Ashley, Bottineau, Bowbells, Carson, Cavalier, Center, Cooperstown, Crosby, Finley, Forman, Fort Yates, LaMoure, Langdon, Lisbon, Manning, McClusky, Mohall, Mott, Napoleon, Stanton

Rhode Island 40.0% (2/5): Bristol, Newport

New Hampshire 45.5% (5/11): Brentwood, Keene, Newport, North Haverhill, Ossipee

New York 50.8% (30/59): Albion, Ballston Spa, Batavia, Belmont, Cooperstown, Delhi, Elmira, Fonda, Herkimer, Ithaca, Johnstown, Lake Pleasant, Little Valley, Lockport, Lowville, Lyons, Mayville, Mineola, Monticello, New City, Norwich, Ovid, Owego, Penn Yan, Riverhead, Schenectady, Schoharie, Utica, Wampsville, Watkins Glen

total 18.9% (586/3098)

NE2, you seem to have have an impessive amount of time on your hands.  I am envious.

Two errors in SPUI's Kentucky list.

Whitesburg currently has US 119; Burkesville had US 37.

Hey where are the County Seats in Connecticut?  I noticed that there are no lists on any maps or any record, and rumor has it that they once did exist, but  the state did rid themselves of them.  How can a county operate without a court house or government building?

Quote from: hbelkins on July 25, 2013, 09:29:38 PM
Whitesburg currently has US 119;

Only through recent annexations.

Quote from: hbelkins on July 25, 2013, 09:29:38 PM
Burkesville had US 37.

US 37 was on the AASHO books but never accepted by the states.

PS: I updated my list above after doing some more checking. Turns out it's 80.9%.

Quote from: roadman65 on July 25, 2013, 09:48:01 PM
Hey where are the County Seats in Connecticut?  I noticed that there are no lists on any maps or any record, and rumor has it that they once did exist, but  the state did rid themselves of them.  How can a county operate without a court house or government building?

I assume in Connecticut, the state took over the role of the county in unincorporated areas, of which there isn't much. Also assume that incorporated areas (cities, towns, etc.) have more autonomy. The counties remain as geographical entities but not governmental.

Quote from: roadman65 on July 25, 2013, 09:48:01 PM
Hey where are the County Seats in Connecticut?  I noticed that there are no lists on any maps or any record, and rumor has it that they once did exist, but  the state did rid themselves of them.  How can a county operate without a court house or government building?

Well... the counties don't operate. There hasn't been any county-level government in Connecticut since 1960. Everything is handled on either the town/city level, or by the state. You can pretend the whole state is one county now, if you want.

As for what the county seats were, it's on Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_counties_in_Connecticut).

Quote from: cu2010 on May 02, 2011, 09:57:50 PM
Continuing east and north in NY:

Oswego (Oswego) - old US104
Jefferson (Watertown) - US11
St. Lawrence (Canton) - US11
Franklin (Malone) - US11
Clinton (Plattsburgh) - US9
Hamilton (Lake Pleasant) - no (Hamilton County as a whole has never had a US route run though it)
Essex (Elizabethtown) - US9
Herkimer (Herkimer) - no
Oneida (Utica) - no
Madison (Wampsville) - no
Warren (Queensbury) - US9
Saratoga (Ballston Spa) - no
Washington (Fort Edward) - US4
Montgomery (Fonda) - no
Fulton (Johnstown) - no
Schenectady (Schenectady) - no
Albany (Albany) - US9, US20
Rensselaer (Troy[let]) - US4

At one time, Oswego County had two county seats simultaneously, Oswego (to serve the western part of the county) and Pulaski (to serve the eastern part of the county).  Of course, US 11 runs through Pulaski to this day and Oswego has a former US route.

Three of NYC boroughs (Kings, Richmond, Queens) never had US routes in them.  Remember each of the five boroughs are counties in the State of New York.  Some do not know that as this is one rare case where a city is larger than a county and actually has multiple ones at that!

Quote from: NE2 on July 25, 2013, 10:14:03 PM

Quote from: hbelkins on July 25, 2013, 09:29:38 PM
Whitesburg currently has US 119;

Only through recent annexations.

Actually, not really. US 119 has been relocated in that area. The existing US 119/KY 15 intersection is south of the old intersection. Back when I was a kid, northbound 119 continued straight through what is now the existing 119/15 intersection and then came to a T intersection. US 119 north turned right and KY 15 north turned left. We traveled that route several times in the 1960s and 1970s en route to vacation destinations and that intersection was in the city of Whitesburg.

Actually, yes really. A 1978-modified topo (http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=37.11574,-82.80962&z=15&t=T) shows new and old intersections and city limits.

Quote from: NE2 on July 25, 2013, 08:31:13 PM
Oklahoma 2.6% (2/77): Hobart, Stigler

Hobart is served by US 183.

Quote from: US71 on May 03, 2011, 09:10:26 AM
Huntsville, AR (Madison County) was not until 1982 when US 412 usurped AR 68

Was it that early?  I thought US 412 ended at Walnut Ridge until the late '80s.

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Perryville (Perry)

A proposed US 366 from 1956 would have run through Perryville.

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Paris (Logan)

Logan County has two county seats, Booneville and Paris, neither of which has ever been on a US highway.

Lake City has never been on a US highway, but the other county seat of Craighead County, Jonesboro, has US 49 and 63.

Quote from: bugo on July 26, 2013, 12:45:52 PM
Hobart is served by US 183.

Only through recent annexations. US 183 has always followed its current route 2 miles east of downtown.

Quote from: roadman65 on July 26, 2013, 08:51:32 AM
Three of NYC boroughs (Kings, Richmond, Queens) never had US routes in them.  Remember each of the five boroughs are counties in the State of New York.  Some do not know that as this is one rare case where a city is larger than a county and actually has multiple ones at that!

Richmond/Staten Island had US 9 along Hylan Blvd. from 1931-34.

Quote from: nyratk1 on July 28, 2013, 04:56:54 PM
Richmond/Staten Island had US 9 along Hylan Blvd. from 1931-34.

Yes and no. It was planned by the city, and may have been posted to the Outerbridge Crossing on the New Jersey side, but there were never any US 9 signs on Staten Island.

Quote from: NE2 on July 25, 2013, 08:31:13 PM
Full list according to my data (using rather strict criteria, including recent annexations not counting):
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California 25.9% (15/58): Colusa, Downieville, Hanford, Hollister, Jackson, Lakeport, Mariposa, Markleeville, Napa, Nevada City, San Andreas, Santa Cruz, Sonora, Susanville, Visalia

Add Martinez to this list.

The 1927 log is explicit about Martinez being on the original US 40 routing, which presumably crossed the ferry to Benicia. Between the opening of the Carky in May of that year and the construction of the direct route through American Canyon (the canyon, not the city), I think US 40 went via Jameson Canyon (the 1928 Lincoln Highway alignment definitely did).

QuoteMinnesota 16.1% (14/87): Baudette, Buffalo, Caledonia, Cambridge, Foley, Gaylord, Glenwood, Le Center, Mantorville, Mora, Red Lake Falls, Roseau, St. James, Stillwater

US 65 briefly existed north of Minneapolis ca. 1934-35, so you can take Cambridge and Mora off the list.

Quote from: froggie on July 29, 2013, 03:52:22 AM
US 65 briefly existed north of Minneapolis ca. 1934-35, so you can take Cambridge and Mora off the list.

Did it actually exist, or was it merely proposed?

Quote from: NE2 on July 26, 2013, 01:06:03 PM

Quote from: bugo on July 26, 2013, 12:45:52 PM
Hobart is served by US 183.

Only through recent annexations. US 183 has always followed its current route 2 miles east of downtown.

Still enough to take it off the list–the original question was "How many county seats have never had a US highway running through them?" Since Hobart has had US 183 running through city limits since at least 2004 (according to ODOT control section maps), "Has Hobart ever had a US highway running through it" resolves to "yes" because it currently has a US highway running through it.

I asked myself a different (and IMO more interesting) question. Look at the city limits of some larger Texas or Oklahoma cities if you want to be turned off from using city limits forever.

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Quote from: apeman33 on August 14, 2011, 01:04:03 AM
Paola-Miami County once had U.S. 169 passing through it. Then it was moved to a new routing east of the city and it became served directly by a K-xxx route (I tried finding it on route56.com but I couldn't; I remember it being K-2xx).

http://www.ksdot.org/burtransplan/maps/HistoricStateMaps.asp

That's not Scott's Job, that's my job. The reason he couldn't find in on my Kansas Highways page was because I didn't put it in. That has been rectified.

Kansas Highway 263, AKA Baptiste Drive
http://www.route56.com/highways/highways.php?hwy=263

As for the original topic: Since the thread is about county seats that NEVER had a US highway, three cities can be removed from Scott's list.
Ellsworth - as Scott noted, it was originally adjacent to US 40 and US 156.
Marion  - US 50N/56 went directly through Ellsworth until ~ 1991.
Minneapolis - US 81 went through Minneapolis until ~ 1950.

I'd also consider Fredonia to be served by US 400, despite the fact that 400 does not enter the city limits. Also, 400 would have entered the city limits prior to the opening of the new bypass alignment.

The original route through Erie was K-6. US 59 may have replaced K-6 through town prior to the new alignment on the west side of Erie. (In any case, I'd would consider Erie as having US 59 for the same reason as Fredonia having US 400.

There are two that Scott Missed:

Tribune - Greeley County: K-27 and K-96
Lincoln - Lincoln County: K-14 and K-18

And US 77 used to go through Marion too, long ago...

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QuoteUS 65 briefly existed north of Minneapolis ca. 1934-35, so you can take Cambridge and Mora off the list.

Did it actually exist, or was it merely proposed?

It actually existed, but only during that 2-year timespan.

Quote from: froggie on July 30, 2013, 03:06:16 AM

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QuoteUS 65 briefly existed north of Minneapolis ca. 1934-35, so you can take Cambridge and Mora off the list.

Did it actually exist, or was it merely proposed?

It actually existed, but only during that 2-year timespan.

So it's different from the other supposed changes at that time, such as US 208? Are there any other 1930s extensions like 65 that were soon undone?

Some of those supposed changes were never actually implemented, namely 208 as well as 218 north of St. Paul.  218 briefly made it to St. Paul during the same 1934-35 timeframe...one of those "other 1930s extensions", as was the short-lived US 216 in SD/WY.  There was also a short-lived US 401 (no relation to the current US 401) that existed from Raleigh, NC to Walterboro, SC before it was effectively replaced by a US 15 extension ca. 1934.  RVDroz's US highways website suggests several such short-lived routings in the 1930s.

The story with 208 is that, when the 1934 proposal was to extend US 218 to Moorhead along what was then US 10N, US 210 would no longer connect to its parent.  Why Minnesota chose 208 is anyones guess, since it wouldn't have connected to its parent either.  The whole idea was rendered moot when US 52 was extended into Minnesota in 1934 and routed along the old US 10S, with US 10 along its current corridor (old US 10N) between St. Cloud and Moorhead.  But a US 218 extension to St. Paul (along the then-old US 65 corridor north of Farmington, as US 65 was relocated to Minneapolis in 1934 along US 55's old routing) was briefly signed for a year or so before being downgraded to MN 218.