Are there any tolled US routes or state routes? Or are tolls reserved for interstates only?
There are tons of toll roads that are state routes or not even. Just look at Florida.
Can't offhand think of a US highway that's on a toll road, though, unless we count tolled bridges.
Quote from: Duke87 on February 19, 2012, 02:03:25 PM
There are tons of toll roads that are state routes or not even. Just look at Florida.
Can't offhand think of a US highway that's on a toll road, though, unless we count tolled bridges.
US 412 in Oklahoma is one. As long as it has a toll free alternate route, it can be. In the case of US 412 there, you have US 64 as its other alternative.
US 51 near Rockford, IL is part of the North-West Tollway and it does have another free route that parallels it.
US 412 actually manages to be tolled twice in Oklahoma: once as part of the Cimarron Turnpike and again further east as part of the Cherokee. The Cimarron is paralleled by US 64, as roadman65 mentioned, but the Cherokee is paralleled by US 412 Scenic, which is old US 412, which is old OK 33.
There are a bunch of tolled state routes in Virginia, but one that stands out to me is VA 146, which has no tolls, but cannot be driven without paying a toll, because both routes that connect to it (VA 76 and VA 195) both have tolls.
The Addison Airport Toll Tunnel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Addison_Airport_Toll_Tunnel) in North Texas has the distinction of not being on a numbered highway or a bridge. Instead, it is a road tunnel to save people from driving around an airport.
Wasn't some of the Illinois toll roads referred once as "Toll US-41" or "Toll US-20" in some road maps in the late 1950s-early 1960s?
In Canada, currently we got Hwy-407 around Toronto with its electronic toll system. Some of the Quebec autoroutes like A-10, A-15/Laurentian autoroute, A-13 and A-40 was former toll roads. Then the Confederation bridge is a tolled gap of a spur of the Trans-Canada highway linking New Brunswick and Prince Edward Island.
Quote from: nds76 on February 19, 2012, 01:52:03 PM
Are there any tolled US routes or state routes? Or are tolls reserved for interstates only?
All of Kentucky's former toll roads, except for I-65's Kentucky Turnpike section, were state routes with secret unposted numbers in the 9000 series.
In Pennsylvania, there's Toll PA 43 and Toll PA 66. Portions of PA 60 were toll before it was changed to I-376.
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 19, 2012, 02:25:24 PM
US 412 actually manages to be tolled twice in Oklahoma: once as part of the Cimarron Turnpike and again further east as part of the Cherokee. The Cimarron is paralleled by US 64, as roadman65 mentioned, but the Cherokee is paralleled by US 412 Scenic, which is old US 412, which is old OK 33.
How long was old 33 actually US 412? It couldn't have been more than a couple of years between the time 412 was extended and the Cherokee was built.
I drove through there way back in the early 90s when the Cherokee was first built. The turnpike ended at US 59. The part from Flint to Kansas was not opened yet. I'm not sure how long this setup existed. 412 was signed along what is now 59/Scenic 412 and exited onto the turnpike at Kansas.
Toll highways in general predate the Interstate system, so there's definitely no requirement that they be Interstates (in fact, at one time Interstate were intended only to be free roads).
Assuming that we overlook toll bridges and tunnels, then yes, you'll find many examples of non-Interstate toll roads. On the NY Thruway system, for example, you have three segments that are not Interstates: on the Berkshire Spur between I-87 and I-90, the Garden State Parkway connector between that road in NJ and I-87/287, and a short piece near Albany, again between I-87 and I-90 (though to me that's really just part of an interchange; it's just that the gap in Interstate designations happens to fall on the main line instead of on ramps). These all have reference route designations, but not posted highway numbers.
Of course, the Garden State Parkway itself is a non-Interstate toll road in NJ, along with the non-I-95 parts of the NJ Turnpike...in fact, I'm quite sure you'll find many more toll roads that aren't Interstates than those which are.
I can think of very few non-bridge/tunnel tolled roads in the UK. Obviously there's the M6 Toll, London Congestion Charge (or is that a tax?) and Durham Congestion Charge (basically a toll for traffic to the city centre - it's a no through area with only one entrance, one exit and very narrow streets and little parking, so they don't want cars there).
There's a couple like this (http://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/maps/index.php?view=50.61204,-2.12332&map=OSMap&zoom=9&layer=0) - a toll road that leads almost exclusively to a free car park. Similarly, the Studland Motor Road (http://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/maps/index.php?view=Studland%20Motor%20Road&gr=50.66318,-1.95118&map=OSMap&zoom=7&layer=0&markers=50.68387,-1.94904,:50.64250,-1.95332,) leads inescapably to a 'free' ferry. All the examples of these technically-paying-for-the-road-but-really-paying-for-something-else I can think of are on the Isle of Purbeck (not a real island). There's also this tolled private road (http://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/maps/index.php?view=51.20764,-3.61538&map=OSMap&zoom=7&layer=0&markers=51.20827,-3.62535,) that bypasses a 1 in 3 hill on the A39 - and the road to the north (not as flat, narrower but still not as bad as the A39) is tolled so people can't use that one to beat the tolls and the hill.
Quote from: Takumi on February 19, 2012, 02:58:32 PM
There are a bunch of tolled state routes in Virginia, but one that stands out to me is VA 146, which has no tolls, but cannot be driven without paying a toll, because both routes that connect to it (VA 76 and VA 195) both have tolls.
No, but VA-146 is administratively part of the RMA Downtown Expressway. It is the east leg of the delta interchange between Powhite Parkway, Downtown Expressway, and I-195. The local ramps on VA-146 are not tolled, because their traffic will involve an RMA mainline toll plaza.
The west leg of the delta interchange is administratively part of the VA-76 Powhite Parkway.
The north leg of the delta interchange is administratively part of I-195.
Washington still has no toll roads, per se, and up until about four years ago, had no tolls at all. However, they've now added tolls on three highways, none of them interstates:
- Tacoma Narrows Bridge (SR 16)
- SR 167 HOT lanes
- SR 520 Bridge
Quote from: Duke87 on February 19, 2012, 02:03:25 PM
There are tons of toll roads that are state routes or not even. Just look at Florida.
Can't offhand think of a US highway that's on a toll road, though, unless we count tolled bridges.
US-412 in Oklahoma (Cherokee Tpk & Cimmaron Tpk)
US-51 in Illinois (with I-39/90 - Northwest Twy)
North Carolina's only toll road is the recently opened NC 147 Toll. NC 147 has both free and toll segments. In the next year, NC 540 Toll will open, converting part of what is free to Toll with new construction all being tolled. NC has two more toll roads under development: the US 74 bypass of Monroe and the Garden Parkway. In 2019, NC is due to toll I 95.
I thought US 36 may have been the first US route to be tolled with the Denver-Boulder Turnpike, but it seems as though US 36 wasn't extended over the route until the tolls were removed.
There used to be a toll US 80 in Savannah, but it was before I moved there.
Speaking of Georgia, you can't forget GA 400 between I-85 and I-285.
Or VA 168 south of the Hampton Roads area.
And, of course, DE 1 in parts is a toll road.
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Until the 1980s, CT Route 15 was a toll road. The Fairfield County section was/is the Merritt Parkway. The New Haven County section until the US Route 5 merge in Meriden (beginning the Berlin Turnpike) was/is the Wilbur Cross Parkway. The last toll in this state was in the spring of 1989. That was for the old Charter Oak Bridge spanning the Connecticut River between Hartford and East Hartford. That bridge came down when the current span replaced it during the early 1990s.
That complimented I-95 from Greenwich to Waterford and I-395 north from there to the MA state line (then CT Route 52), which made up the Connecticut Turnpike. That road was also tolled well into the 1980s.
E- 470 near Denver, Colorado, though it's technically not a state highway, but maintained by the toll authority.
In Michigan we have the Mackinac Bridge that is tolled on I-75 then there there are the Canadian border crossings at the International Bridge at the north end of I-75 in Sault Ste. Marie, then the Bluewater Bridge at the end of I-69 in Port Huron and the Ambassador Bridge in Detroit. Then we have the Detroit/Windsor Tunnel that is tolled but we have no toll roads.
Quote from: bugo on February 19, 2012, 04:19:12 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 19, 2012, 02:25:24 PM
US 412 actually manages to be tolled twice in Oklahoma: once as part of the Cimarron Turnpike and again further east as part of the Cherokee. The Cimarron is paralleled by US 64, as roadman65 mentioned, but the Cherokee is paralleled by US 412 Scenic, which is old US 412, which is old OK 33.
How long was old 33 actually US 412? It couldn't have been more than a couple of years between the time 412 was extended and the Cherokee was built.
It wasn't very long. The Cherokee was actually built as part of the same late-80s compromise that got the Kilpatrick and Creek Turnpikes built. Rural legislators would only agree to the urban turnpikes if they could have the dangerous section of 412 bypassed by a turnpike. The Chickasaw Turnpike was also built as part of this compromise but ended up getting pared back to what it is now for cost reasons.
Quote from: empirestate on February 19, 2012, 04:20:18 PMOf course, the Garden State Parkway itself is a non-Interstate toll road in NJ, along with the non-I-95 parts of the NJ Turnpike...in fact, I'm quite sure you'll find many more toll roads that aren't Interstates than those which are.
You forgot about the Atlantic City Expressway.
Quote from: Takumi on February 19, 2012, 02:58:32 PM
There are a bunch of tolled state routes in Virginia, but one that stands out to me is VA 146, which has no tolls, but cannot be driven without paying a toll, because both routes that connect to it (VA 76 and VA 195) both have tolls.
How about VA 267 from McLean to outside of Leesburg.
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on February 19, 2012, 07:03:04 PM
Until the 1980s, CT Route 15 was a toll road. The Fairfield County section was/is the Merritt Parkway. The New Haven County section until the US Route 5 merge in Meriden (beginning the Berlin Turnpike) was/is the Wilbur Cross Parkway. The last toll in this state was in the spring of 1989. That was for the old Charter Oak Bridge spanning the Connecticut River between Hartford and East Hartford. That bridge came down when the current span replaced it during the early 1990s.
That complimented I-95 from Greenwich to Waterford and I-395 north from there to the MA state line (then CT Route 52), which made up the Connecticut Turnpike. That road was also tolled well into the 1980s.
IIRC, CT deep-sixed ALL their tolls in response to a chain-reaction accident that occurred at a CT Turnpike involving a semi colliding with a toll plaza around 1983-85(?). A higher gas tax replaced the tolls since then.
The toll booth disaster was on I-95 in Stratford, back in 1983. Later that same year, the Mianus River bridge collapsed in Greenwich, also on I-95. I think a major step-up in the state's bridges and roads soon helped raise the gas tax.
Quote from: KEK Inc. on February 19, 2012, 06:57:13 PM
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Maryland's Route 200 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maryland_Route_200) (InterCounty Connector) is a toll road.
For many years, the Baltimore Harbor Tunnel Thruway (I-895 now) did not have a route number posted at all. The I-895 signs went up in the late 1970's or early 1980's.
Before the Fort McHenry Tunnel was completed in 1985, the road was also posted as "To I-95."
The Everett and Spaulding Turnpikes in NH.
Florida, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Kentucky, and Oklahoma has plenty of them. Part of the Berkshire Thruway in NY is not interstate.
Then speaking of Florida you have two toll roads that are arterials and not even freeway. The Osceola Parkway and Goldenrod Road in the Orlando area have tolls on them with at grade intersections.
Quote from: Stephane Dumas on February 19, 2012, 04:04:44 PM
Wasn't some of the Illinois toll roads referred once as "Toll US-41" or "Toll US-20" in some road maps in the late 1950s-early 1960s?
In Canada, currently we got Hwy-407 around Toronto with its electronic toll system. Some of the Quebec autoroutes like A-10, A-15/Laurentian autoroute, A-13 and A-40 was former toll roads. Then the Confederation bridge is a tolled gap of a spur of the Trans-Canada highway linking New Brunswick and Prince Edward Island.
According to Rich Carlson's website, http://www.n9jig.com/
Toll Bus US 12 was on the Chicago Skyway, Toll US 30 was on the East-West Tollway (now I-88 Reagan Tollway) and Toll US 41 was on the Tri-State Tollway.
http://www.120now.com/sub/feasibility_study.html
How about a non-freeway toll road. This bypass route would be an expressway and would be the termination point of the IL 53 tollway which would be full acess control but not to interstate standards...More discusssion on that on in the Midwest.
Quote from: 3467 on February 20, 2012, 08:57:08 PM
http://www.120now.com/sub/feasibility_study.html
How about a non-freeway toll road. This bypass route would be an expressway and would be the termination point of the IL 53 tollway which would be full acess control but not to interstate standards...More discusssion on that on in the Midwest.
You have that in Florida, actually - John Young Pkwy./FL 423. Requires frequent barriers.
Quote from: roadman65 on February 20, 2012, 05:23:03 PM
Then speaking of Florida you have two toll roads that are arterials and not even freeway. The Osceola Parkway and Goldenrod Road in the Orlando area have tolls on them with at grade intersections.
I seem to recall that the Alligator Alley in Florida (before it was signed as I-75) was essentially a two-lane arterial with a few intersections at-grade between Naples and U.S. 27.
Quote from: Steve on February 20, 2012, 10:20:20 PM
Quote from: 3467 on February 20, 2012, 08:57:08 PM
http://www.120now.com/sub/feasibility_study.html
How about a non-freeway toll road. This bypass route would be an expressway and would be the termination point of the IL 53 tollway which would be full acess control but not to interstate standards...More discusssion on that on in the Midwest.
You have that in Florida, actually - John Young Pkwy./FL 423. Requires frequent barriers.
You're probably thinking of either the Osceola Parkway (CR 522) or the Goldenrod Road Extension. Each has a single barrer, and the former also has a few ramp tolls. The Osceola Parkway is more of a long bridge over the Shingle Creek swamp, with the remainder free, while Goldenrod is simply a shortcut across an undeveloped area. (Incidentally, both allow bikes for free; Goldenrod even has bypass lanes around the toll booth.)
More generally, non-freeway toll roads are usually toll bridges where the tolls also finance a free surface road extension (much like I-95 in northeastern Maryland). Others include the Adams Avenue Parkway in Utah and the Foley Beach Express in Alabama.
Quote from: hbelkins on February 19, 2012, 04:07:24 PMIn Pennsylvania, there's Toll PA 43 and Toll PA 66. Portions of PA 60 were toll before it was changed to I-376.
Those were referred to as "PA Toll ##" years ago, but were converted to "PA Turnpike ##" because "toll" has a negative connotation to the traveler, as was told to me for the change by a PTC employee. Ironically, PA Toll 60 was the last to be converted only one year before it being replaced by I-376.
One more state toll road: PA Turnpike 576 (http://www.pahighways.com/toll/PATurnpike576.html) a.k.a. the Southern Beltway.
Quote from: Zmapper on February 19, 2012, 03:47:20 PM
The Addison Airport Toll Tunnel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Addison_Airport_Toll_Tunnel) in North Texas has the distinction of not being on a numbered highway or a bridge. Instead, it is a road tunnel to save people from driving around an airport.
Haven't been through that yet. Other ones in this area are
- the new Lewisville Lake Toll Bridge connecting Corinth/Lake Dallas and Little Elm
- Toll Bridge over Mountain Creek Lake in South Dallas/Grand Prairie
- International Parkway thru DFW airport
The Mountain Creek Lake bridge is designated Spur 303 and the Int'l Pkwy is Spur 97. The Lewisville Lake bridge has no number but it does have a NTTA sign for it when you exit I-35E
Quote from: KEK Inc. on February 19, 2012, 06:57:13 PM
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Just to be totally specific, the Golden Gate Bridge is not part of the California State Highway System (i.e., U.S. 101 ends at the Doyle Drive approach to the bridge and re-starts at the Marin County coast). It is owned and maintained by its own special district.
This may beg the question about tolled routes that are not in any highway system (Interstate, U.S., or State)...
The following non-freeway toll roads (as opposed to toll bridges/tunnels, and not counting park entrance fees and scenic roads) exist in the U.S.:
*Adams Avenue Parkway
*Alabama River Parkway
*Black Warrior Parkway
*Camino Colombia Toll Road
*Emerald Mountain Expressway
*Foley Beach Express
*Goldenrod Road Extension
*Moseywood Road
*Osceola Parkway
*Pinellas Bayway
All of these except Camino Colombia, Goldenrod, and Moseywood include a reasonable-length bridge along the way.
Quote from: bassoon1986 on February 21, 2012, 12:21:43 AM
The Mountain Creek Lake bridge is designated Spur 303 and the Int'l Pkwy is Spur 97.
No and no. Both of these designations (the latter unsigned?) end before tolls begin.
Quote from: DTComposer on February 21, 2012, 01:51:54 AM
Just to be totally specific, the Golden Gate Bridge is not part of the California State Highway System (i.e., U.S. 101 ends at the Doyle Drive approach to the bridge and re-starts at the Marin County coast). It is owned and maintained by its own special district.
It may not be in the state highway system (major toll bridges are seldom under DOT jurisdiction) but it doesn't follow that it's not US 101. A US highway designation is applied by AASHTO, not a single state DOT, so it can follow various kinds of jurisdictions. Why, just down the hill from me there's a US highway running along a city street, and not far away it joins one (and a half) of its pals and crosses a major toll bridge.
Quote from: DTComposer on February 21, 2012, 01:51:54 AM
This may beg the question about tolled routes that are not in any highway system (Interstate, U.S., or State)...
Depends how we define a highway system. That one part of the Berkshire Thruway isn't in the Interstate or US highway systems, nor the posted state system, but it is in the un-posted state reference route system (SR 912M). However, assigning it that number is the extent of the state DOT's jurisdiction over it.
Quote from: DTComposer on February 21, 2012, 01:51:54 AM
Quote from: KEK Inc. on February 19, 2012, 06:57:13 PM
In Northern California, all of the bridges are tolled in one direction, and many include (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2F5%2F5b%2FUS_101_%2528CA%2529.svg%2F23px-US_101_%2528CA%2529.svg.png&hash=fe8ed3c04565cb618c68fa00c3ef1aa20156dff0)/(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2Fd%2Fdd%2FCalifornia_1.svg%2F19px-California_1.svg.png&hash=dcf057234e0092b06d268f1025c49bf379a1d925) (Golden Gate),
Just to be totally specific, the Golden Gate Bridge is not part of the California State Highway System (i.e., U.S. 101 ends at the Doyle Drive approach to the bridge and re-starts at the Marin County coast). It is owned and maintained by its own special district.
This may beg the question about tolled routes that are not in any highway system (Interstate, U.S., or State)...
Like the Golden Gate Bridge, Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel (U.S. 13) between Virginia Beach and the Eastern Shore of Virginia has its "own" district, it is not maintained by VDOT or any local government.
I
presume that it is part of the National Highway System (it is shown on the NHS map by FHWA as a Non-Interstate STRAHNET Route) and the Commonwealth's primary highway network (it does have an entry in the 2010 AVERAGE DAILY TRAFFIC VOLUMES with VEHICLE CLASSIFICATION DATA on INTERSTATE, ARTERIAL and PRIMARY ROUTES (http://www.virginiadot.org/info/resources/2010/AADT_PrimaryInterstate_2010.pdf)) (large (!) file, Adobe .pdf).
Quote from: NE2 on February 21, 2012, 01:53:14 AM
The following non-freeway toll roads (as opposed to toll bridges/tunnels, and not counting park entrance fees and scenic roads) exist in the U.S.:
*Adams Avenue Parkway
*Alabama River Parkway
*Black Warrior Parkway
*Camino Colombia Toll Road
*Emerald Mountain Expressway
*Foley Beach Express
*Goldenrod Road Extension
*Moseywood Road
*Osceola Parkway
*Pinellas Bayway
All of these except Camino Colombia, Goldenrod, and Moseywood include a reasonable-length bridge along the way.
Isn't there a toll on the road to Monterey, CA?
Louisiana has the Lake Pontchartrain Causeway, the new LA 1 bridge and the Westbank-to-Eastbank span of the Crescent City Connection. There is also a private toll road to Avery Island, where Tabasco Sauce is made.
Quote from: Steve on February 21, 2012, 11:37:33 PM
Isn't there a toll on the road to Monterey, CA?
That would be the 17-Mile Drive which is a scenic loop road near Pebble Beach. Nothing else there is toll...
The 17-Mile Drive is a scenic road, so I didn't include it. It's really a gated community where non-residents are charged to enter any of several gates; it's just that the 17-Mile Drive is the most popular way to drive through. The Moseywood Road in Pennsylvania is similar but is used for cut-through, not scenic, purposes.
Quote from: brownpelican on February 22, 2012, 12:43:22 AM
Louisiana has the Lake Pontchartrain Causeway, the new LA 1 bridge and the Westbank-to-Eastbank span of the Crescent City Connection. There is also a private toll road to Avery Island, where Tabasco Sauce is made.
The CCC's
technically part of an Interstate, though not signed in the field.
Texas State Highway 255 was built as a private toll road, then went bankrupt and was sold to the state of Texas at auction on the courthouse steps.
Is the shoreline along Daytona Beach still open to vehicles? Last time I was there (1990), you could still drive on the beach, but you had to pay some sort of fee (toll?) to drive on it. Daytona Beach would be about as close as you could get for a "polar opposite" of a tolled interstate.
Quote from: thenetwork on February 22, 2012, 07:12:11 PM
Is the shoreline along Daytona Beach still open to vehicles? Last time I was there (1990), you could still drive on the beach, but you had to pay some sort of fee (toll?) to drive on it. Daytona Beach would be about as close as you could get for a "polar opposite" of a tolled interstate.
Don't know anything about the status of it, but if it were still open to vehicles, I'd consider that more like a paid parking lot than a toll road.
Quote from: Kacie Jane on February 23, 2012, 12:34:55 AM
Quote from: thenetwork on February 22, 2012, 07:12:11 PM
Is the shoreline along Daytona Beach still open to vehicles? Last time I was there (1990), you could still drive on the beach, but you had to pay some sort of fee (toll?) to drive on it. Daytona Beach would be about as close as you could get for a "polar opposite" of a tolled interstate.
Don't know anything about the status of it, but if it were still open to vehicles, I'd consider that more like a paid parking lot than a toll road.
It's generally used for "crusing". More of a scenic drive, I guess.
http://volusia.org/beach/beach2.htm
Is Georgia 400 still tolled?
The aforementioned E-470, along with the Northwest Parkway in the Denver area (both have their own toll authority).
Also the Dallas North Tollway...not a state highway as far as I know (used to live on the frontage road).
Sorry to Necro, but to add Houston Metro Area
TX DOT
T-99 Grand Parkway
Katy Tollway(Even though its in the middle of I-10)
Harris County Toll Authority
Sam Houston Tollway: BTW, the frontage road and the free sections are beltway 8.
Hardy Toll Road(includes IAH extension, downtown extension)
Westpark Tollway
Fort Bent County Toll Authority
Westpark Tollway
Fort Bent Parkway