So this is partly because I want to know what the control cities are for interstate I'm not familiar with and partly because I know I'll see that some states flip-flop on control cities more than others. Let's keep it blue-shield interstates and not just freeways.
Louisiana:
I-10: Beaumont, Lake Charles, Lafayette, Baton Rouge, New Orleans, New Orleans Business District (at 610 split), Slidell, Bay St Louis
I-12: Baton Rouge, Hammond, Slidell
I-20: Dallas, Shreveport, Monroe, Vicksburg
I-49: (Texarkana), Shreveport, Alexandria, Opelousas, Lafayette, (Morgan City, Houma, New Orleans)
* these are assumptions for the future I-49 routes that are mostly in place already
I-55: Jackson, Hammond, New Orleans
I-59: Hattiesburg, New Orleans
I-110:Natchez, Baton Rouge, Downtown, Metro Airport
I-210: Beaumont, Lafayette
I-220: Dallas, Monroe
I-310: Boutte, Houma, New Orleans, Donaldsonville (although Donaldsonville is more likely for LA 3127, and not on any 310 BGS)
I-510: Slidell, Chalmette, NASA,
I-610: Baton Rouge, Slidell
2 questions to my Louisiana peeps. Is it just me or did exits for I-55 north ever say Jackson, Miss? And is Hammond a control city within LA for I-55 south, or just New Orleans?
Iowa (eastern half):
I-80: Chicago, Iowa City, Davenport, Des Moines, more farther west
I-280: Des Moines, Moline, Rock Island
I-74: Davenport, Bettendorf (I think the only control cities are at the I-80 interchange)
I-380: Cedar Rapids, Waterloo, Iowa City
Illinois:
I-24: Paducah, I-57
I-39: Bloomington-Normal, Rockford
I-55: Chicago, St. Louis, Springfield, B-N
I-57: Effingham, Cairo, Memphis(?), Champaign, Chicago
I-74: Champaign, B-N, Peoria, Galesburg, Moline-Rock Island, Indianapolis
I-80: Joliet, Chicago, Moline-Rock Island
I-88: Sterling-Rock Falls, Chicago, Moline-Rock Island, (Dixon, Rochelle? not sure)
I-280: Chicago, Davenport
I-474: Morton, Galesburg, Moline-Rock Island, Indianapolis
In Chicagoland, Iowa, Indiana, and Wisconsin are used, as well as West Suburbs, NW Suburbs, SW Suburbs, etc.
Obviously this list is incomplete, but that's pretty much all I know of.
The following-listed control destinations I've seen on either pull-through signs or exit signs for the below-listed Interstates. Some of the road listings are not fully complete; feel free to add any control destinations I missed or not included.
Note: Some of the control destinations listed only appear on signs that give 2 control destinations for the same direction.
Massachusetts
I-84: Hartford (CT), New York City (NY), Mass Pike (on exit signs), Boston
I-90: Albany (NY), New York, Springfield, Worcester, Boston, Logan Airport
I-91: Hartford (CT), Springfield, *Northhampton, Greenfield,*Brattleboro (VT) * personal guess
I-93: Providence (RI), Dedham, Braintree, Quincy, Boston, Medford, Salem (NH), Concord (NH)
I-95: Providence (RI), Attleboro, Boston, Dedham, Waltham, Peabody, Salisbury, Portsmouth (NH), NH-Maine (after this summer only on exit signage off I-90)
I-190: Worcester, Fitchburg
I-290: Worcester, Shrewsbury, Marlborough
I-291: Springfield (not sure about the eastbound control city or cities)
I-391: Springfield, Chicopee, Holyoke Center
I-195: Providence (RI), Fall River, New Bedford, Cape Cod
I-295: Woonsocket (RI), Westerly (RI), *Attleboro * not 100% on this one
I-395: Norwich (CT), Worcester
I-495: Cape Cod, Wareham, Taunton (used to be anyway), Worcester, Lowell, Lawrence, Haverhill, Salisbury, NH-Maine (only on exit signage off I-90)
New Hampshire
I-89: White River Jct. (VT), Lebanon, Concord
I-93: Boston (MA), Salem, Derry, Manchester, Concord, White Mts., St. Johnsbury (VT)
I-95: Boston (MA), Hampton, Portsmouth, All Maine Points
I-293: Manchester, Concord
I-393: Concord
Connecticut
I-84: NY State, Danbury, Waterbury, Hartford, Boston (MA)
I-91: NY City (NY), New Haven, Hartford, Springfield
I-95: New York (or New York City (NY), New Haven, New London, Providence (RI)
I-291: Windsor (never traveled in the eastbound direction)
I-384: Providence (RI)
I-691: Waterbury, Meriden
Rhode Island
I-95: New York (NY), Providence, Pawtucket, Attleboro (MA), Boston (MA)
I-195: Providence, E. Providence, Cape Cod (MA)
I-295: Westerly, Woonsocket, Boston (MA)
New York
I-84: Newburgh, Danbury (CT)
I-87: New York, Tappan Zee Bridge, Albany (observed between Exits 9 & 15)
I-287: New Jersey, Tappan Zee Bridge, White Plains, Rye
I-684: New York City, White Plains, Brewster
New Jersey
I-76: Atlantic City, Walt Whitman Bridge, Philadelphia (PA)
I-78: Phillipsburg, Clinton, Springfield, Newark, Holland Tunnel, New York City (NY)
I-80: Delaware Water Gap (PA), Paterson, New York City
I-95: Philadelphia (PA), Princeton, *Trenton, *Camden, *Newark, New York (NY), George Washington Bridge * NJTP exit signage)
I-195: Trenton, Belmar, Lakewood, Shore Points
(TO) I-276*: Pennsylvania * Future I-95 along NJTP - PA Turnpike Connector Branch
I-278: Elizabeth, Goethals Bridge, Staten Island (NY), Verrazano-Narrows Bridge (NY)
I-280: The Oranges, Kearny, Newark
I-295: Delaware, Delaware Memorial Bridge, Camden, Bellmawr, Mt. Holly, Trenton, Bordentown (not sure if this one control destination still exists anymore) Princeton
I-676: Philadelphia (PA), Ben Franklin Bridge, Camden, Walt Whitman Bridge, Atlantic City
Delaware
I-95: Baltimore (MD), Newark, Wilmington, Chester (PA), Philadlephia (PA)
I-295: Wilmington, Delaware Memorial Bridge, NJ-NY
I-495: Baltimore (MD), Port of Wilmington, Edgemoor, Philadelphia (PA)
Pennsylvania (I only include Interstates I've actually ridden on)
I-70: Washington, Hagerstown (MD), Baltimore (MD)
I-76: Ohio, Pittsburgh, Harrisburg, Valley Forge, Philadelphia, Central Philadelphia, Walt Whitman Bridge, Atlantic City (NJ)
I-78: Harrisburg, Allentown, Easton, New Jersey
I-79: Morgantown (WV), Pittsburgh, Erie
I-81: Morgantown, Harrisburg, Hazelton, Wiles-Barre, Scranton, Binghamton (NY)
I-83: Baltimore (MD), York, Harrisburg
I-95: Wilmington (DE), Chester, Philadelphia, Central Philadelphia, Philadelphia International Airport, Trenton (NJ), Princeton (NJ)
I-99 *cough-cough*: Altoona (did not get a chance to read southbound control destination)
I-176: Morgantown, Reading
I-276: Harrisburg, *Norristown, New Jersey * on exit sign from southbound I-476
I-279: Pittsburgh, Fort Pitt Tunnel, Erie (rode on prior to southern leg being redesignated as I-376)
I-283: Harrisburg
I-476: Chester, Philadelphia, Valley Forge (on one exit sign), Plymouth Meeting, Allentown, Scranton
I-676: Central Philadelphia, Ben Franklin Bridge
California
I-5
Northbound: San Diego, Los Angeles (Santa Ana), Sacramento (formerly Bakersfield along Golden State Freeway/former US 99) (Stockton, San Francisco), Redding (Woodland), Portland
Southbound: Redding, Sacramento, Los Angeles (San Francisco), Santa Ana, San Diego, Downtown [San Diego]
I-105
Eastbound: Norwalk
Westbound: El Segundo/LAX Airport
I-205:
Eastbound: Tracy/Stockton
Westbound: San Francisco (Oakland)
I-405
Northbound: Long Beach, Santa Monica (LAX Airport), Sacramento (formerly Bakersfield)
Southbound: Santa Monica, LAX Airport, Long Beach, San Diego
I-505
Northbound: Redding
Southbound: San Francisco (Vacaville)
I-605
Northbound: THRU TRAFFIC
Southbound: THRU TRAFFIC
I-805
Northbound: San Diego (briefly), Los Angeles
Southbound: SOUTH
I-8
Eastbound: El Centro, Yuma
Westbound: El Centro, San Diego, Beaches, [TO] Nimitz Blvd/Sunset Cliffs Blvd
I-10
Eastbound: Los Angeles, San Bernardino, Redlands/Palm Springs (as noted by JustDrive below), Indio (Other Desert Cities), Blythe/Phoenix
Westbound: Los Angeles (San Bernardino, Indio), Santa Monica
I-110
Northbound: Los Angeles, Pasadena (note the latter section is on northbound Harbor Freeway in downtown LA, signed as "State Route 110" on north carriageway, but as I-110 southbound)
Southbound: San Pedro
I-210
Eastbound: Pasadena, San Bernardino
Westbound: Pasadena, San Fernando
I-710
Northbound: Downtown [Long Beach], Pasadena
Southbound: Long Beach, Terminal Island
I-15
Northbound: Riverside/Escondido, Corona/Los Angeles, Ontario, Barstow, Las Vegas
Southbound: Barstow/Los Angeles, Ontario, San Diego
I-215:
Northbound: Riverside/San Bernardino, Barstow
Southbound: San Bernardino/Riverside, San Diego
I-40:
Eastbound: Needles
Westbound: Barstow
I-80
Eastbound: Oakland/Bay Bridge, Sacramento (Berkeley, Vallejo, Fairfield, Vacaville), Reno
Westbound: Sacramento, San Francisco (Oakland), [TO] US 101 San Jose/Golden Gate Bridge
I-280
Northbound: Downtown San Jose, San Francisco (Daly City)
Southbound: Daly City, San Jose
I-380:
Eastbound: San Bruno, San Francisco International Airport
Westbound: San Bruno
I-580
Eastbound: Richmond Bridge/Oakland, Downtown Oakland, Hayward/Stockton, Los Angeles
Westbound: San Francisco/Oakland, San Rafael
I-680
Southbound: San Jose (Concord, Walnut Creek, Dublin, Fremont)
Northbound: Sacramento (Dublin, Walnut Creek, Concord, Benicia)
I-780
Eastbound: Benicia/Martinez
Westbound: Vallejo
I-880
Northbound: Oakland (Hayward, Alameda)
Southbound: Alameda, San Jose
I-980:
Westbound: Downtown Oakland
Eastbound: Walnut Creek/To Route 24
I-10 also has "Redlands/Palm Springs" eastbound at the 215.
Does I-5 have anything for Mexico listed since it crosses the border?
As far as I know, this is every single one of them in Wyoming. I did think there was a Rapid City somewhere, but I can't find it.
Wyoming:
I-80 -
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Evanston
Green River
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Rock Springs
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Rawlins
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Laramie
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Cheyenne
Pine Bluffs
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Sidney
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Omaha
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I-25 -
Denver
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Fort Collins
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Cheyenne
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Wheatland
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Douglas
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Midwest
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Casper
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Buffalo
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Gillette
Sheridan
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I-90
Billings
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Sheridan
Buffalo
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Gillette
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Moorcroft
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Sundance
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Spearfish
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I-180
Central Ave
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Quote from: pianocello on March 22, 2012, 06:00:48 PM
Illinois:
You got a few right.
Here's the Illinois list,
primary controls bolded,
secondary controls in italics, in parenthesis is an alternate (i.e. Bloomington instead of Bloomington-Normal). Primary controls show up on the mainline and at freeway-freeway interchanges. Secondary controls show up everywhere else.
The 2dis:
I-24:
Interstate 57,
St Louis,
Paducah,
NashvilleI-39:
Bloomington-Normal,
LaSalle-Peru,
Rockford,
WisconsinI-55:
St Louis,
East St Louis,
Springfield,
Bloomington-Normal (Bloomington),
Joliet,
Chicago,
Lake Shore DriveI-57:
Memphis,
Sikeston MO,
Cairo,
Mt Vernon,
Effingham,
Champaign-Urbana (Champaign),
Kankakee,
ChicagoI-64:
St Louis,
East St Louis,
Mt Vernon,
Evansville,
LouisvilleI-70:
St Louis,
East St Louis,
Effingham,
Terre Haute,
IndianapolisI-72:
Springfield,
Pittsfield,
Decatur,
Champaign-Urbana (Champaign),
Jacksonville,
Quincy,
HannibalI-74:
Davenport,
Moline-Rock Island,
Galesburg,
Peoria,
Bloomington-Normal (Bloomington),
Champaign-Urbana (Champaign),
Danville,
IndianapolisI-80:
Des Moines (losing in favor of "Iowa"),
Iowa,
Davenport,
Moline-Rock Island,
Joliet,
Gary Indiana (being phased out),
Indiana,
Toledo (phased out in favor of "Indiana")
I-88:
Moline-Rock Island (Moline),
Dixon,
DeKalb,
Aurora,
ChicagoI-90:
Wisconsin,
Rockford,
Chicago,
O'Hare,
Indiana,
Indiana Toll RoadI-94:
Wisconsin,
Milwaukee,
IndianaNow for the 3dis:
I-155:
Peoria,
Hartsburg,
LincolnI-255:
Memphis,
Chicago,
Interstate 270,
St Louis Co,
East St LouisI-355:
Rockford,
Southwest Suburbs,
West Suburbs,
Northwest Suburbs,
St Louis,
JolietI-270:
Indianapolis,
Kansas City,
St Charles,
EffinghamI-172:
Hannibal,
Mt Sterling,
Keokuk,
QuincyI-474:
Indianapolis,
Galesburg,
Bloomington,
Moline-Rock Island,
PekinI-180:
Hennepin,
Interstate 80I-280:
Moline-Rock Island,
Des Moines,
ChicagoI-190:
O'Hare,
ChicagoI-290:
Rockford,
West Suburbs,
ChicagoI-294:
Wisconsin,
Indiana,
MilwaukeeOther:
IL-255:
Interstate 270,
AltonIL-394:
Danville,
ChicagoIL-53:
North Suburbs,
West SuburbsIL-56:
Sugar Grove,
ChicagoElgin-O'Hare Expy: No controls, just East or West
US-20 (Rockford):
Freeport,
BelvidereIL-6:
Chillicothe,
To I-74/474US-34 (Galesburg):
Kewanee,
Monmouth,
GalesburgUS-41 (LSD): No controls, juts North or South
For Indiana:
I-64: St. Louis, Louisville
I-65: Louisville, Indianapolis, Chicago
I-69: Indianapolis, Fort Wayne, Lansing (future will have Evansville for SB and perhaps Bloomington or Indianapolis or Crane or something for northbound)
I-70: St. Louis, Indianapolis, Dayton (older signs have Columbus, OH)
I-74: Peoria, Indianapolis, Cincinnati
I-80: Chicago, Toledo/Ohio
I-90: Chicago, Toledo/Ohio
I-94: Chicago, Detroit
I-164: Evansville/Henderson, KY (at the northern interchange with 64/69)
I-469: Fort Wayne (mentioned at the southern interchange heading east onto I-469 at I-69)
*The last two examples are one-time mentions since Indiana doesn't normally do control cities on 3-dis.
Quote from: bassoon1986 on March 22, 2012, 09:03:32 PM
Does I-5 have anything for Mexico listed since it crosses the border?
Aside from an "Int'l Border" mileage sign in Del Mar, there's nothing on I-5 that mentions Mexico.
For North Carolina, I feel confident about I-40, the others not sure, but here it goes
(even west-->east, odd north-->south)
I-40- Asheville, Hickory, Statesville, Winston-Salem, Greensboro, Burlington (co-signed with I-85), Durham (co-signed with I-85), Raleigh, Benson, Wilmington
I-77- Elkin, Statesville, Charlotte
I-85- Henderson, Durham (co-signed with I-40), Burlington (co-signed with I-40), Greensboro, High Point, Charlotte, Gastonia, Kings Mountain
I-95- Roanoke Rapids, Rocky Mount, Wilson, Benson, Fayetteville, Lumberton
I-26- Asheville
Future Interstates (partial and/or complete)
I-74- Winston-Salem, Asheboro (co-signed with I-73), Rockingham (co-signed with I-73), Laurinburg, Lumberton
I-73- Greensboro, Asheboro (co-signed with I-74), Rockingham (co-signed with I-74)
@PHLBOS: www.alpsroads.net/roads/nj/log/cities.html
Kentucky:
I-24: St. Louis/Paducah; Paducah/Nashville
I-64: Louisville/Lexington; Lexington/Ashland
I-65: Indianapolis/Louisville; Louisville/Nashville (sometimes Elizabethtown or Bowling Green will show up south of Louisville)
I-71: Louisville/Cincinnati
I-75: Lexington/Cincinnati; Lexington/Knoxville
I-264 at its western terminus at I-64 gets a control city of Shively.
I live in Virginia and I'm not motivated enough to look up a full list, especially as to those in Southwest Virginia (where I seldom drive). Off the top of my head I can think of the following:
I-64: Norfolk (eastbound east of Richmond); Richmond (westbound and eastbound); don't recall otherwise but I seem to recall a sign on the I-81 concurrency mentioning Charleston (without a "WV" clarifier, which struck me as odd when I saw it).
I-66: Washington; Front Royal; Strasburg; some newer signs mention Manassas in conjunction with Front Royal.
I-77: I've only used it southbound (not counting I-81 concurrency) and I think I remember the signs listing Charlotte without an "NC" clarifier. I last used that road in December 2004 on a football trip to Charlotte.
I-81: Winchester; Roanoke; I believe south of Roanoke you see Bristol. Don't recall north of Winchester. I hate driving on I-81 in Virginia because so many car drivers can't seem to deal with all the trucks.
I-85: There aren't many overhead signs on I-85 itself. Distance signs generally list Durham, NC, on the bottom line (I seen to recall some include "NC" and some don't). The overhead signs on I-95 as you approach the I-85 exit have Blackstone and South Hill on one set of signs (both in Virginia) and Durham and Atlanta on the others (neither with state included).
I-95: Washington; Baltimore (without MD); Richmond; Rocky Mount NC; a couple of famous signs list Miami (once upon a time with FL, generally without)
I-195: I believe southbound this is signed "TO Powhite Parkway" without a control city. Don't know northbound. Usually I simply view this road from the Auto Train since it doesn't go anywhere I normally need to drive.
I-295: Charlottesville; Rocky Mount NC; might be others northbound but I do not recall as I've used it more often heading south.
I-395: Washington northbound, Richmond southbound
I-495: Tysons Corner; Richmond; Alexandria; Baltimore (Baltimore without a MD clarifier). Rockville (without MD) appears on some signs leading to the Beltway. Signs now reading "Tysons Corner" originally said "Frederick" (up in Maryland), but the business community in Tysons Corner objected.
I-581: Roanoke; Airport
I haven't been to the Tidewater area in a long time since my brother graduated from William & Mary, but I seem to recall I-564 being signed for "Naval Base." Don't recall the others. I-264 did not yet extend to Virginia Beach the last time I was down there, but I assume the signs most likely now say "Virginia Beach," "Norfolk," and "Portsmouth." I haven't been through Bristol since May 1997, but I assume I-381 southbound is signed "Bristol" and northbound is probably signed as "TO I-81."
Quote from: tdindy88 on March 22, 2012, 10:42:55 PM
For Indiana:
I-80: Chicago, Toledo/Ohio
I-94: Chicago, Detroit
Detroit is the Eastbound control city for the I-80/94 multiplex, so I guess technically Detroit is a control city for I-80 also (even though I-80 doesn't go there).
I-5 North also has Portland as a Northbound Control City
I-210 East also has Mtn Resorts and Redlands as Control Points
I-210 West lists San Fernando as a Control City west of Pasadena. Sacramento only shows up on Mileage signs and other freeways transitioning to I-210.
Quote from: hbelkins on March 23, 2012, 11:33:35 AM
Kentucky:
I-24: St. Louis/Paducah; Paducah/Nashville
I-64: Louisville/Lexington; Lexington/Ashland
I-65: Indianapolis/Louisville; Louisville/Nashville (sometimes Elizabethtown or Bowling Green will show up south of Louisville)
I-71: Louisville/Cincinnati
I-75: Lexington/Cincinnati; Lexington/Knoxville
I-264 at its western terminus at I-64 gets a control city of Shively.
St. Louis is a control city for westbound I-64 for a few miles.
Quote from: bassoon1986 on March 22, 2012, 05:42:09 PM
2 questions to my Louisiana peeps. Is it just me or did exits for I-55 north ever say Jackson, Miss? And is Hammond a control city within LA for I-55 south, or just New Orleans?
Hammond is a control city for I-55 NB only. SB from the state line to terminus has New Orleans as the control city.
Quote from: 1995hoo on March 23, 2012, 12:21:52 PM
I-77: I've only used it southbound (not counting I-81 concurrency) and I think I remember the signs listing Charlotte without an "NC" clarifier. I last used that road in December 2004 on a football trip to Charlotte.
At least on the NC side, I believe Wytheville is the control city...and it might be Mount Airy on the VA side, but not sure.
Quote from: 1995hoo on March 23, 2012, 12:21:52 PM
I haven't been to the Tidewater area in a long time since my brother graduated from William & Mary, but I seem to recall I-564 being signed for "Naval Base." Don't recall the others. I-264 did not yet extend to Virginia Beach the last time I was down there, but I assume the signs most likely now say "Virginia Beach," "Norfolk," and "Portsmouth."
I-264 eastbound uses
Portsmouth and
Norfolk from I-664 to downtown Portsmouth, then starting at the Downtown Tunnel uses
Virginia Beach,
Va Beach, or
Oceanfront (except for a number of signs between downtown Norfolk and I-64, which use
TO 64 / 13 in place of a city.
I-264 westbound uses
Norfolk and
Richmond in Virginia Beach, then past I-64 uses
Norfolk and
Portsmouth until the Downtown Tunnel, where it changes to
Bowers Hill,
Chesapeake, and
Suffolk.
I-464 northbound uses
Norfolk and
Portsmouth, and southbound uses
Chesapeake.
I-564 westbound uses
Naval Base, which also shows up as a control city on I-64 west between I-264 and I-564, and eastbound I do not know of a single sign listing a control city, as there is only one eastbound offramp before the I-64/I-564/US 460/VA 165 interchange complex.
I-664 northbound uses
Newport News,
Richmond, and
Hampton.
I-664 southbound uses
Suffolk and
Chesapeake, though the exit signs from I-64 eastbound in Hampton also list
Downtown Newport News,
Portsmouth, and
Nags Head.
Hampton Roads 3dis are remarkably devoid of pull-through signs, however, so many of these control cities only appear on one or two signs.
Quote from: 1995hoo on March 23, 2012, 12:21:52 PM
I-295: Charlottesville; Rocky Mount NC
Also Washington northbound and Richmond Airport in both directions. There's also one New York City on I-95 northbound in southern Fairfax County.
Quote from: Interstate Trav on March 23, 2012, 01:01:46 PM
I-5 North also has Portland as a Northbound Control City
Alright, will update my list above in a minute.
Quote from: Interstate Trav on March 23, 2012, 01:01:46 PM
I-210 East also has Mtn Resorts and Redlands as Control Points
Is that true where it's still I-210 (at Route 57 in San Dimas)?
Quote from: Interstate Trav on March 23, 2012, 01:01:46 PM
I-210 West lists San Fernando as a Control City west of Pasadena. Sacramento only shows up on Mileage signs and other freeways transitioning to I-210.
Gonna fix the list to reflect that. Thanks. :D
http://www.upstatenyroads.com/2di.shtml
The corresponding 3di page doesn't seem to have control cities on it. Here's the ones I know of:
390: Corning, Rochester, Greece, Airport
490: Buffalo, Downtown Rochester, Victor
590: Downtown Rochester, Irondequoit (note: none of these appear on I-590 itself but do on I-390 northbound signage)
481: DeWitt, Oswego
890: Rotterdam, Schenectady
990: Lockport
190: Downtown Buffalo, Niagara Falls, Canada
290: Thruway, Niagara Falls
690: Baldwinsville, Downtown Syracuse
Quote from: Takumi on March 23, 2012, 02:30:28 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on March 23, 2012, 12:21:52 PM
I-295: Charlottesville; Rocky Mount NC
Also Washington northbound and Richmond Airport in both directions. There's also one New York City on I-95 northbound in southern Fairfax County.
Yeah, I've seen that New York City sign. I didn't count it because it's a single sign, but I suppose under that logic the Miami signs maybe shouldn't count either.
I still wonder why if you're in Austin all the signs for I-35 North say "Waco" instead of Dallas or Fort Worth or DFW. Who goes to Waco anyway?
Quote from: texaskdog on March 23, 2012, 03:21:54 PM
I still wonder why if you're in Austin all the signs for I-35 North say "Waco" instead of Dallas or Fort Worth or DFW. Who goes to Waco anyway?
The ATF?
<ducks>
Quote from: Brandon on March 22, 2012, 10:38:45 PM
Quote from: pianocello on March 22, 2012, 06:00:48 PM
Illinois:
You got a few right.
Here's the Illinois list, primary controls bolded, secondary controls in italics, in parenthesis is an alternate (i.e. Bloomington instead of Bloomington-Normal). Primary controls show up on the mainline and at freeway-freeway interchanges. Secondary controls show up everywhere else.
The 2dis:
I-24: Interstate 57, St Louis, Paducah, Nashville
I-39: Bloomington-Normal, LaSalle-Peru, Rockford, Wisconsin
I-55: St Louis, East St Louis, Springfield, Bloomington-Normal (Bloomington), Joliet, Chicago, Lake Shore Drive
I-57: Memphis, Sikeston MO, Cairo, Mt Vernon, Effingham, Champaign-Urbana (Champaign), Kankakee, Chicago
I-64: St Louis, East St Louis, Mt Vernon, Evansville, Louisville
I-70: St Louis, East St Louis, Effingham, Terre Haute, Indianapolis
I-72: Springfield, Pittsfield, Decatur, Champaign-Urbana (Champaign), Jacksonville, Quincy, Hannibal
I-74: Davenport, Moline-Rock Island, Galesburg, Peoria, Bloomington-Normal (Bloomington), Champaign-Urbana (Champaign), Danville, Indianapolis
I-80: Des Moines (losing in favor of "Iowa"), Iowa, Davenport, Moline-Rock Island, Joliet, Gary Indiana (being phased out), Indiana, Toledo (phased out in favor of "Indiana")
I-88: Moline-Rock Island (Moline), Dixon, DeKalb, Aurora, Chicago
I-90: Wisconsin, Rockford, Chicago, O'Hare, Indiana, Indiana Toll Road
I-94: Wisconsin, Milwaukee, Indiana
Now for the 3dis:
I-155: Peoria, Hartsburg, Lincoln
I-255: Memphis, Chicago, Interstate 270, St Louis Co, East St Louis
I-355: Rockford, Southwest Suburbs, West Suburbs, Northwest Suburbs, St Louis, Joliet
I-270: Indianapolis, Kansas City, St Charles, Effingham
I-172: Hannibal, Mt Sterling, Keokuk, Quincy
I-474: Indianapolis, Galesburg, Bloomington, Moline-Rock Island, Pekin
I-180: Hennepin, Interstate 80
I-280: Moline-Rock Island, Des Moines, Chicago
I-190: O'Hare, Chicago
I-290: Rockford, West Suburbs, Chicago
I-294: Wisconsin, Indiana, Milwaukee
Other:
IL-255: Interstate 270, Alton
IL-394: Danville, Chicago
IL-53: North Suburbs, West Suburbs
IL-56: Sugar Grove, Chicago
Elgin-O'Hare Expy: No controls, just East or West
US-20 (Rockford): Freeport, Belvidere
IL-6: Chillicothe, To I-74/474
US-34 (Galesburg): Kewanee, Monmouth, Galesburg
US-41 (LSD): No controls, juts North or South
Brandon you made 2 minor mistakes. I-294 SB from about Lake Cook Rd does use O'Hare as a control city on the mainline BGS. The entrances do not.
Also I-90 does have 1 instance of using Madison WB after the I-190 exit. It is on the gantry with Rockford at the I-294 North exit. Madison also used to be used north of Rockford prior to the new signage put up.
At I-294 North exit: http://www.bing.com/maps/#JnE9LlJvc2Vtb250JTJiSUwlN2Vzc3QuMCU3ZXBnLjEmYmI9NTkuMzYxMTg3NjM2Mjg5NCU3ZS00MC44NzAzNTM2OTg1JTdlMTcuODIxOTAwODc5OTcwMSU3ZS0xMzQuNjQ5NjUwNTczNQ==
You have to use the little guy to see it.
north of Rockford: http://www.ajfroggie.com/roadpics/il/i039n-i090w-us51il75exit.jpg
Quote from: cabiness42 on March 23, 2012, 01:29:26 PM
St. Louis is a control city for westbound I-64 for a few miles.
You're right, of course. Brain flatulence.
Quote from: 1995hoo on March 23, 2012, 12:21:52 PM
I live in Virginia and I'm not motivated enough to look up a full list, especially as to those in Southwest Virginia (where I seldom drive). Off the top of my head I can think of the following:
I-64: Norfolk (eastbound east of Richmond); Richmond (westbound and eastbound); don't recall otherwise but I seem to recall a sign on the I-81 concurrency mentioning Charleston (without a "WV" clarifier, which struck me as odd when I saw it).
I-77: I've only used it southbound (not counting I-81 concurrency) and I think I remember the signs listing Charlotte without an "NC" clarifier. I last used that road in December 2004 on a football trip to Charlotte.
I-81: Winchester; Roanoke; I believe south of Roanoke you see Bristol. Don't recall north of Winchester. I hate driving on I-81 in Virginia because so many car drivers can't seem to deal with all the trucks.
I haven't been to the Tidewater area in a long time since my brother graduated from William & Mary, but I seem to recall I-564 being signed for "Naval Base." Don't recall the others. I-264 did not yet extend to Virginia Beach the last time I was down there, but I assume the signs most likely now say "Virginia Beach," "Norfolk," and "Portsmouth." I haven't been through Bristol since May 1997, but I assume I-381 southbound is signed "Bristol" and northbound is probably signed as "TO I-81."
I-64 uses Charleston where it splits from I-81. Coming into Virginia from WV Lexington is used.
I-81 uses Wytheville, then Bristol, then Knoxville in the southwestern part of the state. North of Winchester I think it uses Harrisburg, but can't be sure. I do know that north of Winchester there is a mileage sign that lists distances to Martinsburg WV, Hagerstown MD and Harrisburg PA. At the I-70 interchange in Maryland, Harrisburg is the northbound control city; southbound both Martinsburg and Winchester are overlooked in favor of Roanoke.
I-77 is Charlotte/Wytheville and Wytheville/Bluefield.
There is no control city for I-381 northbound.
Quote from: bassoon1986 on March 22, 2012, 05:42:09 PM
So this is partly because I want to know what the control cities are for interstate I'm not familiar with and partly because I know I'll see that some states flip-flop on control cities more than others. Let's keep it blue-shield interstates and not just freeways.
Louisiana:
I-10: Beaumont, Lake Charles, Lafayette, Baton Rouge, New Orleans, New Orleans Business District (at 610 split), Slidell, Bay St Louis
I-12: Baton Rouge, Hammond, Slidell
I-20: Dallas, Shreveport, Monroe, Vicksburg
I-49: (Texarkana), Shreveport, Alexandria, Opelousas, Lafayette, (Morgan City, Houma, New Orleans)
* these are assumptions for the future I-49 routes that are mostly in place already
I-55: Jackson, Hammond, New Orleans
I-59: Hattiesburg, New Orleans
I-110:Natchez, Baton Rouge, Downtown, Metro Airport
I-210: Beaumont, Lafayette
I-220: Dallas, Monroe
I-310: Boutte, Houma, New Orleans, Donaldsonville (although Donaldsonville is more likely for LA 3127, and not on any 310 BGS)
I-510: Slidell, Chalmette, NASA,
I-610: Baton Rouge, Slidell
2 questions to my Louisiana peeps. Is it just me or did exits for I-55 north ever say Jackson, Miss? And is Hammond a control city within LA for I-55 south, or just New Orleans?
In response, Hammond is the IH 55 control in Louisiana for south and North. From Hammond to the state line, the northbound control city is Jackson. Once in MS, the controls northbound become McComb, then Brookhaven, then Jackson
In MS:
I-10: Gulfport, Biloxi, New Orleans, Mobile (Bay St. Louis is a control city for I-10 in Slidell, LA)
I-20: Vicksburg, Jackson, Meridian
I-55: McComb, Brookhaven (I've seen it north of McComb), Jackson, Grenada, Batesville (seen this around Senatobia), Southaven (north of Hernando), Memphis
I-59: Meridian, Laurel, Hattiesburg, Picayune, New Orleans, MS Gulf Coast (signed only at US 49 in Hattiesburg)
I-69: Tunica
The three-digit interstates (220 in Jackson and I-110 in Biloxi) don't have control cities.
I'm interested in seeing what control cities MDOT will use to sign I-22 once it officially becomes an interstate. I'm sure they'd use Tupelo from the Tennessee line and then Birmingham east of Tupelo. In Memphis, TennDOT signs Birmingham on US 78 (the future I-22 in MS).
Quote from: texaskdog on March 23, 2012, 03:21:54 PM
I still wonder why if you're in Austin all the signs for I-35 North say "Waco" instead of Dallas or Fort Worth or DFW. Who goes to Waco anyway?
It's a city of 125,000 with a major university.
I[4- Tampa, Orlando, Daytona Beach (Inside Orlando City Limits there are mostly no control cities and shields only)
I-10- Mobile, Pensacola, Tallahassee, Lake City, Jacksonville
I-75- Miami, Fort Lauderdale used with Miami at Naples, Naples, Tampa, Ocala (northbound only), Lake City, Valdosta
I-95- Miami, Fort Lauderdale, West Palm Beach, Daytona Beach, St. Augustine (some ramps southbound in Jacksonville), Jacksonville, Jacksonville Airport (at some interchanges in Downtown Jax), Savanah
I-275- Bradenton, St. Petersburg, Tampa, Ocala (Northbound in Tampa), Tampa Airport and St. Petersburg from I-75 South at north terminus
Quote from: InterstateNG on March 23, 2012, 10:01:32 PM
Quote from: texaskdog on March 23, 2012, 03:21:54 PM
I still wonder why if you're in Austin all the signs for I-35 North say "Waco" instead of Dallas or Fort Worth or DFW. Who goes to Waco anyway?
It's a city of 125,000 with a major university.
Why is Ashland, KY used at all on I-64 in Kentucky for east of Lexington when Huntington, WV is more en route. Ashland is several miles off the beaten path and Huntington is a much larger city than it.
That's just state bias- kind of like how Oregon signs I-82 as Hermiston/Umatilla, despite Hermiston not really being on I-82 and much larger cities in Washington
Colorado:
NB I-25: Pueblo, Colorado Springs ("Colo Spgs"), Denver, Ft. Collins, Cheyenne
SB I-25: Denver w/ some Ft. Collins in there, Denver, Colorado Springs, Pueblo, Walsenburg, Trinidad, Raton
EB I-70: Grand Junction, Denver, Limon, ? (Burlington or Salina from distance signs on I-70)
WB I-70: Limon, Denver, Grand Junction, Green River
EB I-76: Ft. Morgan, ? (North Platte or Lincoln from distance signs on I-76)
WB I-76: Denver
New Mexico:
NB I-25: Albuquerque, Santa Fe, Las Vegas, Raton, Trinidad
SB I-25: Santa Fe, Albuquerque, Las Cruces
EB I-10: Las Cruces, El Paso
WB I-10: Las Cruces, Tucson
EB I-40: Albuquerque, Santa Rosa, Tucumcari, Amarillo
WB I-40: Albuquerque, Gallup, Flagstaff
I think I-76 goes Ft Morgan, Sterling, Julesburg (maybe, no picture), Ogallala
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.davidjcorcoran.com%2Fhighways%2Fco%2F385%2F23to76%2F8.jpg&hash=d0d580c6ddce96bef7aac4db80b68c5f9b2a3661)
Colorado seems to do a good job of just not signing cities on I-70 and I-76 east of Denver- I have very few interchange photos that show any sort of city name.
ok I will try to see how close I get for Texas
Interstate 10 Heading East:
El Paso
Ft Stockton
San Antonio
Houston
Beaumont
Lake Charles
Interstate 10 Heading West:
Beaumont
Houston
San Antonio
El Paso
Las Cruces
Interstate 20 Eastbound:
Abilene
Ft. Worth/Dallas
Shreveport
IH 20 Westbound:
Dallas/ Ft. Worth
Abilene
El Paso
IH 27:
Amarillo
Lubbock
IH 30:
Ft. Worth/Dallas
Texarkana
IH 35 North:
Laredo
San Antonio
Austin
Waco
35 E: Dallas, Denton
35 W: Ft. Worth, Denton
35 North: Oklahoma City
Ih 35 Sourh:
Dallas/Ft. Worth
Waco (also for 35E and 35W South)
Austin
San Antonio
Laredo
IH 37:
Corpus Christi
San Antonio
Johnson City (technically more meant for US 281 since IH 37 ends just north of downtown SA)
IH 40 (which I almost forgot passes through TX):
Tucamcari
Amarillo
Oklahoma City
IH 44:
Wichita Falls
Lawton
IH 45:
Galveston
Houston
Dallas
And now, IH 69:
Kingsville
Robstown
Brownsville
IH 410 (San Antonio):
No Cities but is signed as "Connaly Loop"
IH 610 (Houston):
Bellaire (West Loop South of US 59)
Pasadena (signed at the exit for South Loop on IH 45 which is less than 2 miles from the beginning of the freeway that heads there)
Alviin (at the same exit, for IH 610 Westbound which shares ramps with the exit for Sh 35 which heads to Alvin)
IH 635 (Dallas side of the Metroples):
Mesquite
Garland
Copell
North Dallas
Flower Mound
And I think that's it for Interstates. Thank God the topic did not include US Highways or state route freeways or anything HAH
I don't know of any Ft Stocktons on I-10 east, but there are a couple Van Horns
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.davidjcorcoran.com%2Fhighways%2Ftx%2F10%2F478loopto110%2F1.jpg&hash=f4c0a6d2929b6e2fe6cef230aec21f19a0c5cb0a)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.davidjcorcoran.com%2Fhighways%2Ftx%2F10%2F659to375loop%2F4.jpg&hash=e93b07df8c00c0e4486e6c9e9dc148ada024b3de) (Pontiac G2 Matiz, from Mexico and not sold in the US to answer the inevitable car enthusiast question)
There's also an Albuquerque approaching I-40 from 87 south
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.davidjcorcoran.com%2Fhighways%2Ftx%2F87%2F287to27%2F1.jpg&hash=bfcaa6d4646f9886ebb18ca52033ff1b89156547)
Then Tahoka is the control city on I-27 once you're in Lubbock
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Quote from: texaskdog on March 23, 2012, 03:21:54 PM
I still wonder why if you're in Austin all the signs for I-35 North say "Waco" instead of Dallas or Fort Worth or DFW. Who goes to Waco anyway?
I'm kind of surprised because Southbound 35 from OK doesn't show Denton, only going NB from Dallas or FW on either 35. Granted Waco isn't at the southern 35 split but its the nearest big city. I figured from Austin, Dallas would be shown
Quote from: TheStranger on March 23, 2012, 02:39:03 PM
Quote from: Interstate Trav on March 23, 2012, 01:01:46 PM
I-5 North also has Portland as a Northbound Control City
Alright, will update my list above in a minute.
Quote from: Interstate Trav on March 23, 2012, 01:01:46 PM
I-210 East also has Mtn Resorts and Redlands as Control Points
Is that true where it's still I-210 (at Route 57 in San Dimas)?
Quote from: Interstate Trav on March 23, 2012, 01:01:46 PM
I-210 West lists San Fernando as a Control City west of Pasadena. Sacramento only shows up on Mileage signs and other freeways transitioning to I-210.
Gonna fix the list to reflect that. Thanks. :D
Oh my mistake, I was just thinking that the 210 was I-210 from the 57 to the 10. the Current I-210 only signs San Bernardino, Redlands doesn't appear until the jct with the 15, and that is after it becomes CA 210.
Golden Eagle:
No Pascagoula for I-10 in MS?
And I remember some exits for 220 in Jackson saying things like North Jackson, but that's more directional than a control city I guess.
Achilles:
-I remember a time when I-20 west from Fort Worth used to show Weatherford.
-Tyler is greened out from US 80 and 20 EB signs from Dallas now although it's shown on mileage signs
-On entrance ramps from nearly every exit from Dallas eastward on I-20, Longview is shown, but never on a pullthrough
-Where does 635 show Coppell, North Dallas or Flower Mound? I know Mesquite and Garland are shown for 635 NB from I-20. DFW Airport is also shown on exits from 35E. But I've never seen those 3 locations used
And technically, there is a single pull through sign that says 35E northbound, Oklahoma City. At the US 77 Denton exit (464)
Quote from: TheStranger on March 22, 2012, 07:46:19 PM
I-110
Northbound: Los Angeles, Pasadena (note the latter section is on northbound Harbor Freeway in downtown LA, signed as "State Route 110" on north carriageway, but as I-110 southbound)
Southbound: San Pedro
The section in Downtown L.A. (signed as CA-110 northbound but I-110 southbound) uses Hollywood in addition to Pasadena.
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=90011&ll=34.040156,-118.273627&spn=79.069519,137.636719&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&hnear=Los+Angeles,+California+90011&gl=us&t=v&z=3&layer=c&panoid=g5zs8Wztsehp75hFxjVsOQ&cbll=34.040156,-118.273627&cbp=13,-356.62393760313984,,0,-0.11459155902615237
Quote from: corco on March 23, 2012, 11:36:23 PM
I don't know of any Ft Stocktons on I-10 east, but there are a couple Van Horns
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.davidjcorcoran.com%2Fhighways%2Ftx%2F10%2F478loopto110%2F1.jpg&hash=f4c0a6d2929b6e2fe6cef230aec21f19a0c5cb0a)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.davidjcorcoran.com%2Fhighways%2Ftx%2F10%2F659to375loop%2F4.jpg&hash=e93b07df8c00c0e4486e6c9e9dc148ada024b3de) (Pontiac G2 Matiz, from Mexico and not sold in the US to answer the inevitable car enthusiast question)
There's also an Albuquerque approaching I-40 from 87 south
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.davidjcorcoran.com%2Fhighways%2Ftx%2F87%2F287to27%2F1.jpg&hash=bfcaa6d4646f9886ebb18ca52033ff1b89156547)
Then Tahoka is the control city on I-27 once you're in Lubbock
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Thank you for that. I was thinking Van Horn as I typed Ft. Stockton. The others you mention I was not aware of. Darn, I was hoping I got them all haha
Minnesota:
NB I-35: Twin Cities or Minneapolis/St. Paul, Duluth
SB I-35: Twin Cities or Minneapolis/St. Paul, Albert Lea, Des Moines
WB I-90: Albert Lea, Sioux Falls
EB I-90: Albert Lea, La Crosse
WB I-94: St. Paul (given that the state line is just east of St. Paul), Minneapolis, St. Cloud, Moorhead
EB I-94: St. Cloud, Twin Cities or Minneapolis/St. Paul, Madison
I-494 and 694 generally have no control cities listed
I-35W is Minneapolis to downtown and then Duluth (NB) or Albert Lea (SB) once the outer suburbs are reached
I-35E is same, substitute St. Paul for Minneapolis.
I-35 South near Laredo: mileage for Monterrey, N.L.
https://www.aaroads.com/texas/ih035/i-035_sb_exit_8_03.jpg (https://www.aaroads.com/texas/ih035/i-035_sb_exit_8_03.jpg)
(unable to locate this sign in GMSV. . . perhaps removed during Loop 20 construction)
Quote from: roadman65 on March 23, 2012, 10:05:54 PM
Why is Ashland, KY used at all on I-64 in Kentucky for east of Lexington when Huntington, WV is more en route. Ashland is several miles off the beaten path and Huntington is a much larger city than it.
Probably because it's an in-state designation. In West Virginia, Ashland is also used between Exit 15 and the state line.
In my youth I remember a mileage sign for Ashland on I-64 eastbound in Jefferson County, located between the Hurstbourne Parkway (KY 1747) and Jefferson Freeway (KY 841) exits, before the Blankenbaker Road exit was built and that area developed. The distance was 180 miles. That sticks out like a sore thumb in my memory. That sign is gone now and has been for two decades.
Quote from: achilles765 on March 24, 2012, 11:49:57 AM
Quote from: corco on March 23, 2012, 11:36:23 PM
I don't know of any Ft Stocktons on I-10 east, but there are a couple Van Horns
Then Tahoka is the control city on I-27 once you're in Lubbock
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Rather surprising to see I-27 on that pullthrough sign, since that is essentially the end of I-27. I don't think there's an exit 0.
EDIT: Not exactly retracting the above, but "redriving" this route on Streetview (I drove through there about three years ago) reveals that there is an Exit 1 at 82nd Street just south of this interchange, which Streetview indicates is where "27" becomes "87". I detect a violation of exit numbering criteria, especially since Texas does use "Exit 0" where appropriate.
Add to the I-45 control cities/tags. A lot of the state/US highways run that into I-45 Houston downtown use Bush and Hobby airports as controllers.
Quote from: The High Plains Traveler on March 24, 2012, 08:30:45 PM
EDIT: Not exactly retracting the above, but "redriving" this route on Streetview (I drove through there about three years ago) reveals that there is an Exit 1 at 82nd Street just south of this interchange, which Streetview indicates is where "27" becomes "87". I detect a violation of exit numbering criteria, especially since Texas does use "Exit 0" where appropriate.
Not a violation - Exit 1 is an option. There's no rule that a state has to use Exit 0 on every highway just because it uses it once.
Quote from: cabiness42 on March 23, 2012, 12:38:32 PM
Quote from: tdindy88 on March 22, 2012, 10:42:55 PM
For Indiana:
I-80: Chicago, Toledo/Ohio
I-94: Chicago, Detroit
Detroit is the Eastbound control city for the I-80/94 multiplex, so I guess technically Detroit is a control city for I-80 also (even though I-80 doesn't go there).
No doubt that it is a control city on the Borman, but I think most of the signs have both Detroit and Toledo to account for the two routes. Some signs show Detroit only so that would be technically true. By the same logic, I-465 would then have Cincinnati and Peoria as control cities as would where I-65 and I-70 overlap.
Quote from: tdindy88 on March 22, 2012, 10:42:55 PM
For Indiana:
I-64: St. Louis, Louisville
I-65: Louisville, Indianapolis, Chicago
I-69: Indianapolis, Fort Wayne, Lansing (future will have Evansville for SB and perhaps Bloomington or Indianapolis or Crane or something for northbound)
I-70: St. Louis, Indianapolis, Dayton (older signs have Columbus, OH)
I-74: Peoria, Indianapolis, Cincinnati
I-80: Chicago, Toledo/Ohio
I-90: Chicago, Toledo/Ohio
I-94: Chicago, Detroit
I-164: Evansville/Henderson, KY (at the northern interchange with 64/69)
I-469: Fort Wayne (mentioned at the southern interchange heading east onto I-469 at I-69)
*The last two examples are one-time mentions since Indiana doesn't normally do control cities on 3-dis.
Those are the main ones, but there are some technical additions:
- I-65: Nashville (sign at exit 0 southbound), Toll Rd.
- I-69: Petersburg (as it is signed today)
- I-74: Crawfordsville (at Ronald Reagan Pkwy. interchange, but I think that is a fluke)
- I-80: Des Moines (on Toll Rd.)
- I-90: Chicago Skyway (at western end of Toll Rd.)
- I-265: New Albany, and Clark Maritime Ctr (not that either it or SR 265 actually make it there)
- I-275: Ohio and Kentucky
- I-865: Chicago and I-465
Most likely, I-69 will have "Memphis" from Evansville south as Indiana favors large control cities. I doubt that Bloomington would be a permanent control city.
Quote from: PHLBOS on March 22, 2012, 07:08:02 PM
The following-listed control destinations I've seen on either pull-through signs or exit signs for the below-listed Interstates. Some of the road listings are not fully complete; feel free to add any control destinations I missed or not included.
Note: Some of the control destinations listed only appear on signs that give 2 control destinations for the same direction.
Massachusetts
I-84: Hartford (CT), New York City (NY), Mass Pike (on exit signs), Boston
I-90: Albany (NY), New York, Springfield, Worcester, Boston, Logan Airport
I-91: Hartford (CT), Springfield, *Northhampton, Greenfield,*Brattleboro (VT) * personal guess
I-93: Providence (RI), Dedham, Braintree, Quincy, Boston, Medford, Salem (NH), Concord (NH)
I-95: Providence (RI), Attleboro, Boston, Dedham, Waltham, Peabody, Salisbury, Portsmouth (NH), NH-Maine (after this summer only on exit signage off I-90)
I-190: Worcester, Fitchburg
I-290: Worcester, Shrewsbury, Marlborough
I-291: Springfield (not sure about the eastbound control city or cities)
I-391: Springfield, Chicopee, Holyoke Center
I-195: Providence (RI), Fall River, New Bedford, Cape Cod
I-295: Woonsocket (RI), Westerly (RI), *Attleboro * not 100% on this one
I-395: Norwich (CT), Worcester
I-495: Cape Cod, Wareham, Taunton (used to be anyway), Worcester, Lowell, Lawrence, Haverhill, Salisbury, NH-Maine (only on exit signage off I-90)
New Hampshire
I-89: White River Jct. (VT), Lebanon, Concord
I-93: Boston (MA), Salem, Derry, Manchester, Concord, White Mts., St. Johnsbury (VT)
I-95: Boston (MA), Hampton, Portsmouth, All Maine Points
I-293: Manchester, Concord
I-393: Concord
Connecticut
I-84: NY State, Danbury, Waterbury, Hartford, Boston (MA)
I-91: NY City (NY), New Haven, Hartford, Springfield
I-95: New York (or New York City (NY), New Haven, New London, Providence (RI)
I-291: Windsor (never traveled in the eastbound direction)
I-384: Providence (RI)
I-691: Waterbury, Meriden
Rhode Island
I-95: New York (NY), Providence, Pawtucket, Attleboro (MA), Boston (MA)
I-195: Providence, E. Providence, Cape Cod (MA)
I-295: Westerly, Woonsocket, Boston (MA)
New York
I-84: Newburgh, Danbury (CT)
I-87: New York, Tappan Zee Bridge, Albany (observed between Exits 9 & 15)
I-287: New Jersey, Tappan Zee Bridge, White Plains, Rye
I-684: New York City, White Plains, Brewster
New Jersey
I-76: Atlantic City, Walt Whitman Bridge, Philadelphia (PA)
I-78: Phillipsburg, Clinton, Springfield, Newark, Holland Tunnel, New York City (NY)
I-80: Delaware Water Gap (PA), Paterson, New York City
I-95: Philadelphia (PA), Princeton, *Trenton, *Camden, *Newark, New York (NY), George Washington Bridge * NJTP exit signage)
I-195: Trenton, Belmar, Lakewood, Shore Points
(TO) I-276*: Pennsylvania * Future I-95 along NJTP - PA Turnpike Connector Branch
I-278: Elizabeth, Goethals Bridge, Staten Island (NY), Verrazano-Narrows Bridge (NY)
I-280: The Oranges, Kearny, Newark
I-295: Delaware, Delaware Memorial Bridge, Camden, Bellmawr, Mt. Holly, Trenton, Bordentown (not sure if this one control destination still exists anymore) Princeton
I-676: Philadelphia (PA), Ben Franklin Bridge, Camden, Walt Whitman Bridge, Atlantic City
Delaware
I-95: Baltimore (MD), Newark, Wilmington, Chester (PA), Philadlephia (PA)
I-295: Wilmington, Delaware Memorial Bridge, NJ-NY
I-495: Baltimore (MD), Port of Wilmington, Edgemoor, Philadelphia (PA)
Pennsylvania (I only include Interstates I've actually ridden on)
I-70: Washington, Hagerstown (MD), Baltimore (MD)
I-76: Ohio, Pittsburgh, Harrisburg, Valley Forge, Philadelphia, Central Philadelphia, Walt Whitman Bridge, Atlantic City (NJ)
I-78: Harrisburg, Allentown, Easton, New Jersey
I-79: Morgantown (WV), Pittsburgh, Erie
I-81: Morgantown, Harrisburg, Hazelton, Wiles-Barre, Scranton, Binghamton (NY)
I-83: Baltimore (MD), York, Harrisburg
I-95: Wilmington (DE), Chester, Philadelphia, Central Philadelphia, Philadelphia International Airport, Trenton (NJ), Princeton (NJ)
I-99 *cough-cough*: Altoona (did not get a chance to read southbound control destination)
I-176: Morgantown, Reading
I-276: Harrisburg, *Norristown, New Jersey * on exit sign from southbound I-476
I-279: Pittsburgh, Fort Pitt Tunnel, Erie (rode on prior to southern leg being redesignated as I-376)
I-283: Harrisburg
I-476: Chester, Philadelphia, Valley Forge (on one exit sign), Plymouth Meeting, Allentown, Scranton
I-676: Central Philadelphia, Ben Franklin Bridge
On I-91 in MA Brattleboro is used as a NB control city. I've never seen Northampton used, though.
For the rest of CT:
I-384 WB is Hartford
I-291 EB is Manchester
I-395 NB is Norwich, Worcester (MA), *Providence (RI) from CT-2 interchange only
I-395 SB is Norwich, New Haven
Quote from: Steve on March 25, 2012, 09:57:30 AM
Quote from: The High Plains Traveler on March 24, 2012, 08:30:45 PM
EDIT: Not exactly retracting the above, but "redriving" this route on Streetview (I drove through there about three years ago) reveals that there is an Exit 1 at 82nd Street just south of this interchange, which Streetview indicates is where "27" becomes "87". I detect a violation of exit numbering criteria, especially since Texas does use "Exit 0" where appropriate.
Not a violation - Exit 1 is an option. There's no rule that a state has to use Exit 0 on every highway just because it uses it once.
Understood, but the exit pictured is exit 1A. Going north, the next exits are 1B and 1C. Either use exit 0 at the route terminus just south, followed by 1A, B, etc. to the north, or if the exits within the first two miles of the route are exits 1x as is common practice, make the first exit at the terminus 1A and this one 1B.
Quote from: mukade on March 25, 2012, 10:27:39 AM
Quote from: cabiness42 on March 23, 2012, 12:38:32 PM
Quote from: tdindy88 on March 22, 2012, 10:42:55 PM
For Indiana:
I-80: Chicago, Toledo/Ohio
I-94: Chicago, Detroit
Detroit is the Eastbound control city for the I-80/94 multiplex, so I guess technically Detroit is a control city for I-80 also (even though I-80 doesn't go there).
No doubt that it is a control city on the Borman, but I think most of the signs have both Detroit and Toledo to account for the two routes. Some signs show Detroit only so that would be technically true. By the same logic, I-465 would then have Cincinnati and Peoria as control cities as would where I-65 and I-70 overlap.
Quote from: tdindy88 on March 22, 2012, 10:42:55 PM
For Indiana:
I-64: St. Louis, Louisville
I-65: Louisville, Indianapolis, Chicago
I-69: Indianapolis, Fort Wayne, Lansing (future will have Evansville for SB and perhaps Bloomington or Indianapolis or Crane or something for northbound)
I-70: St. Louis, Indianapolis, Dayton (older signs have Columbus, OH)
I-74: Peoria, Indianapolis, Cincinnati
I-80: Chicago, Toledo/Ohio
I-90: Chicago, Toledo/Ohio
I-94: Chicago, Detroit
I-164: Evansville/Henderson, KY (at the northern interchange with 64/69)
I-469: Fort Wayne (mentioned at the southern interchange heading east onto I-469 at I-69)
*The last two examples are one-time mentions since Indiana doesn't normally do control cities on 3-dis.
Those are the main ones, but there are some technical additions:
- I-65: Nashville (sign at exit 0 southbound), Toll Rd.
- I-69: Petersburg (as it is signed today)
- I-74: Crawfordsville (at Ronald Reagan Pkwy. interchange, but I think that is a fluke)
- I-80: Des Moines (on Toll Rd.)
- I-90: Chicago Skyway (at western end of Toll Rd.)
- I-265: New Albany, and Clark Maritime Ctr (not that either it or SR 265 actually make it there)
- I-275: Ohio and Kentucky
- I-865: Chicago and I-465
Most likely, I-69 will have "Memphis" from Evansville south as Indiana favors large control cities. I doubt that Bloomington would be a permanent control city.
On I-80/94 (Borman Expy stretch), Toledo does not get mentioned at all. Only Detroit. Even at the Toll Road interchange, there is no control city until you are on the ramp and the ramp says Ohio.
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Also Des Moines is only mentioned on the Toll Road to 80/94. Once on 80/94, all the BGS have the WB control city as Chicago. The next mention of Des Moines (or Iowa for that matter) is in Illinois.
Missouri
* I-29
Primary: Kansas City, St. Joesph, Council Bluffs
Secondary: Rockport, Mound City, Hamburg IA
I-35
* Primary: Kansas City, Des Moines
I-44
* Primary: St. Louis, Tulsa
* Secondary: Rolla, Lebanon, Springfield (MO), Joplin
* Either Tertiary or alternate secondary: Cuba, Fort Lenard Wood
I-55
* Primary: St. Louis, Mephis
* Secondary: Downtown (St. Louis, NB only), Illinois (NB only) Perryville (NB only), Cape Girardeau, Benton (Northbound Only), Sikeston, New Madrid, probably another one or two south of New Madrid
* Former secondary: Ste. Genevieve (IIRC this one popped up around the US 67 interchange in Festus)
* Tertiary: Festus (may be a former one now), Jct Route 32 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=37.847266,-90.001774&spn=0.014385,0.033023&t=m&z=16&layer=c&cbll=37.847266,-90.001774&panoid=UOJkBYu3CNN4k12JLYWjBg&cbp=12,76.67,,0,0.58 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=37.847266,-90.001774&spn=0.014385,0.033023&t=m&z=16&layer=c&cbll=37.847266,-90.001774&panoid=UOJkBYu3CNN4k12JLYWjBg&cbp=12,76.67,,0,0.58))
I-57
* Primary: Chicago
* Secondary: Charleston (MO)
I-64
* Primary: St. Louis, Wentzville
* Secondary: Chesterfield (EB only), Illinois (EB only); in the pre-interstate times Forest Park popped up for EB on the same corridor.
I-70
* Primary: Indianapolis (could be secondary since it pops up at a minor interchange), St. Louis, Kansas City, Topeka
* Secondary: Wentzville, Columbia, Boonville, Independence, I think there a couple more for some of the outer KC suburbs
* Former Secondary: Lambert Field
* Tertiary: Jonesburg, Wright City (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=38.820668,-91.13952&spn=0.007097,0.016512&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=38.8205,-91.13967&panoid=wgj5iT3PuEiUc-Q1b4hdyg&cbp=12,93,,0,5.26 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=38.820668,-91.13952&spn=0.007097,0.016512&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=38.8205,-91.13967&panoid=wgj5iT3PuEiUc-Q1b4hdyg&cbp=12,93,,0,5.26)), Warrenton (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=38.859393,-91.303446&spn=0.007093,0.016512&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=38.85965,-91.303277&panoid=r220CQXotzdBZQOp0_ACjg&cbp=12,240.82,,0,-1.29 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=38.859393,-91.303446&spn=0.007093,0.016512&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=38.85965,-91.303277&panoid=r220CQXotzdBZQOp0_ACjg&cbp=12,240.82,,0,-1.29)) Floristell, Kingdom City, Danville (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=38.910354,-91.700671&spn=0.007088,0.016512&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=38.910159,-91.700685&panoid=9wd403S5WxpdXO9Ty24EPA&cbp=12,25.74,,0,-3.63 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=38.910354,-91.700671&spn=0.007088,0.016512&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=38.910159,-91.700685&panoid=9wd403S5WxpdXO9Ty24EPA&cbp=12,25.74,,0,-3.63)), probably a lot more
I-170
* Primary: Clayton or nothing
I-229
* Primary: Downtown St. Joesph (alternate is Central Business District, http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=39.748931,-94.852207&spn=0.003502,0.008256&t=m&z=18&layer=c&cbll=39.748942,-94.852417&panoid=4yv2HHlxTU_unN94QFVXBA&cbp=12,259.13,,0,-3.57 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=39.748931,-94.852207&spn=0.003502,0.008256&t=m&z=18&layer=c&cbll=39.748942,-94.852417&panoid=4yv2HHlxTU_unN94QFVXBA&cbp=12,259.13,,0,-3.57) Kansas City)
*Secondary: "I-29" (Alternate: "To I-29")
I-255
* Primary: Chicago, Memphis
* Secondary: Illinois
I-270
* Primary: Memphis, Tulsa (though not as much now as in the past) Kansas City, Chicago
* Secondary: Vandalia ILL, Florissant (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=38.765453,-90.18268&spn=0.007102,0.016512&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=38.765233,-90.182734&panoid=OU11QRGbfoVIQYrqQsckIQ&cbp=12,52.5,,0,0.12 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=38.765453,-90.18268&spn=0.007102,0.016512&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=38.765233,-90.182734&panoid=OU11QRGbfoVIQYrqQsckIQ&cbp=12,52.5,,0,0.12))
* Former secondary: I-55, Kirkwood, Bridgeton, probably a few more
How come LA broke the rule of their own for signing local cities as control points like PA does on their interstates in Shreveport? Dallas is used as control city for I-20 WB instead of one of the intermediate points like Monroe is used going east from there. Bay St. Louis is used on I-10 from all interchanges in Slidell, LA including I-12 and I-59, etc. Then Opelousas is used on I-49 from Lafayette northward instead of Alexandria which gives many of us indigestion cause the way the cookie crumbles at that location.
Louisiana did not follow suit here and acted like most states do in one instance.
Oregon
I-5: Ashland, Medford, Grants Pass, Roseburg, Eugene, Salem, Tigard, Beaverton, Portland, Seattle
I-105: Eugene, Springfield, Downtown, Fairgrounds, Florence
I-205: Portland, Portland Airport, Salem, Seattle, The Dalles, West Linn, Oregon City, Tigard
I-405: Beaverton, Salem, St. Helens, Seattle, City Center
I-82: Hermiston, Umatilla, Kennewick, Yakima, Spokane ("Eastbound" route labeled as TO I-84: Portland, Pendleton)
I-84: Portland Airport, Hood River, The Dalles, Portland, Pendleton, Baker City, Ontario, Boise (only at the very edge of the state line)
Quote from: The High Plains Traveler on March 25, 2012, 12:37:33 PM
Quote from: Steve on March 25, 2012, 09:57:30 AM
Quote from: The High Plains Traveler on March 24, 2012, 08:30:45 PM
EDIT: Not exactly retracting the above, but "redriving" this route on Streetview (I drove through there about three years ago) reveals that there is an Exit 1 at 82nd Street just south of this interchange, which Streetview indicates is where "27" becomes "87". I detect a violation of exit numbering criteria, especially since Texas does use "Exit 0" where appropriate.
Not a violation - Exit 1 is an option. There's no rule that a state has to use Exit 0 on every highway just because it uses it once.
Understood, but the exit pictured is exit 1A. Going north, the next exits are 1B and 1C. Either use exit 0 at the route terminus just south, followed by 1A, B, etc. to the north, or if the exits within the first two miles of the route are exits 1x as is common practice, make the first exit at the terminus 1A and this one 1B.
True.
Quote from: bassoon1986 on March 24, 2012, 12:26:50 AM
Golden Eagle:
No Pascagoula for I-10 in MS?
And I remember some exits for 220 in Jackson saying things like North Jackson, but that's more directional than a control city I guess.
That's in Alabama only.
In South Carolina:
I-20: Augusta, Columbia, Florence
I-26: Asheville, Spartanburg, Columbia, Charleston
I-77: Charlotte, Columbia, Charleston
I-85: Atlanta, Greenville, Spartanburg, Charlotte
I-95: Savannah, Florence, Fayetteville
I-126: Downtown Columbia, Elmwood Road, Spartanburg
I-185: Atlanta, Greenville Downtown, Columbia
I-385: Columbia, Greenville, Downtown
I-520: Augusta, Columbia
I-526: Savannah, Mount Pleasant
I-585: Spartanburg, Inman, Pine Street, Downtown
Quote from: hobsini2 on March 25, 2012, 01:51:27 PM
On I-80/94 (Borman Expy stretch), Toledo does not get mentioned at all. Only Detroit. Even at the Toll Road interchange, there is no control city until you are on the ramp and the ramp says Ohio.
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Also Des Moines is only mentioned on the Toll Road to 80/94. Once on 80/94, all the BGS have the WB control city as Chicago. The next mention of Des Moines (or Iowa for that matter) is in Illinois.
Well, I-80/I-94 in Indiana and the Borman Expy. are one and the same, but Toledo is certainly posted. I don't live there to know all signs, but these two pictures show Toledo is indeed posted on/for the Borman:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fhighwayexplorer.com%2FPhotos%2FIntchg%2FI80-I90--CentralAve-1.jpg&hash=c914d02f504f4ca6a9b3aec5649d221c8142fd67)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fhighwayexplorer.com%2FPhotos%2FIntchg%2FI65--I80-I94-3.jpg&hash=9388c0830244563ce4c2af8bf27252c41902f71c)
As for Des Moines, I agree and that is what I wrote.
QuoteI-84: Portland Airport, Hood River, The Dalles, Portland, Pendleton, Baker City, Ontario, Boise (only at the very edge of the state line)
There's one other one just east of Huntington, but that's it.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.davidjcorcoran.com%2Fhighways%2For%2F84%2F30to201%2F2.JPG&hash=ec53f8c6c94142c4d242279de65a477c0a40c047)
Quote from: roadman65 on March 25, 2012, 03:37:15 PM
How come LA broke the rule of their own for signing local cities as control points like PA does on their interstates in Shreveport? Dallas is used as control city for I-20 WB instead of one of the intermediate points like Monroe is used going east from there. Bay St. Louis is used on I-10 from all interchanges in Slidell, LA including I-12 and I-59, etc. Then Opelousas is used on I-49 from Lafayette northward instead of Alexandria which gives many of us indigestion cause the way the cookie crumbles at that location.
Louisiana did not follow suit here and acted like most states do in one instance.
I'm not sure I understand your question. Are you saying Louisiana breaks the "rule" of posting local cities by putting places like Dallas and Monroe, or that it breaks the "rule" the opposite way by posting Opelousas or Bay St. Louis rather than larger cities? Louisiana's 3di's pretty much have the same control city as their parent. Or at least the 3di loops do:
220 - Dallas or Monroe, same as I-20
210 - Beaumont or Lafayette, same as 1-10
610 - Baton Rouge or Slidell, same as I-10
I don't think Monroe is an intermediate point. It is a city large enough to be a control city. I don't think there's an intermediate city or another city mentioned before Dallas going westbound because there really isn't a city large enough between the 2. (Longview is smaller but really only has 3-4 exits; Tyler is too far south of I-20)
As for Opelousas and Bay St. Louis, I really consider these to be leftovers that never got replaced once interstates were completed. Bay St. Louis was a control city because I-10 stopped at Mississippi's exit 2 (MS 607) defaulting travelers southward to US 90. Opelousas has gotta be from 49's early days when it was only 20 miles long from Lafayette to Opelousas. Although, there is one sign in Downtown Alexandria on I-49 Southbound at the Pineville Expwy (US 167/LA 28) exit that says Lafayette rather than Opelousas. That is also the newest section of completed 49 so far.
Washington Freeways:
I-5: Portland, Seattle, Vancouver B.C. (Tacoma, Everett)
I-90: Seattle, Spokane, Ellensburg, Coeur d'Alene
I-82: Ellensburg, Seattle, Yakima, Pendleton, Tri-Cities
I-182: Richland, Pasco, Yakima
I-205: Portland, Salem, Portland Airport, Seattle
I-705: City Center, Seattle, Portland
I-405: Everett, Renton, Bellevue (Lynwood, Burien, Seattle)
This is a fairly short exercise for Nevada:
I-15:
Los Angeles
Las Vegas
Salt Lake City
I-215:
Henderson
Las Vegas
I-515:
Las Vegas ("Downtown" on some older side-street signage)
Henderson (side streets only)
Boulder City (not on mainline, but some side streets and from I-215/SR 564.)
Phoenix
I-80:
Sacramento
Reno
*(many smaller towns in between may be used for control at minor interchanges)
Elko
Salt Lake City
I-580:
**Minden [via US 395 south] & S. Lake Tahoe/Sacramento [via US 50 west] (As signed on US 50/395--the Carson City Freeway/future I-580.)
Carson City
**Reno (As signed for US 395--the Carson City Freeway/future I-580.)
Susanville, CA [beyond I-580 terminus, via US 395 north]
Quote from: mukade on March 25, 2012, 10:35:23 PM
Quote from: hobsini2 on March 25, 2012, 01:51:27 PM
On I-80/94 (Borman Expy stretch), Toledo does not get mentioned at all. Only Detroit. Even at the Toll Road interchange, there is no control city until you are on the ramp and the ramp says Ohio.
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Also Des Moines is only mentioned on the Toll Road to 80/94. Once on 80/94, all the BGS have the WB control city as Chicago. The next mention of Des Moines (or Iowa for that matter) is in Illinois.
Well, I-80/I-94 in Indiana and the Borman Expy. are one and the same, but Toledo is certainly posted. I don't live there to know all signs, but these two pictures show Toledo is indeed posted on/for the Borman:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fhighwayexplorer.com%2FPhotos%2FIntchg%2FI80-I90--CentralAve-1.jpg&hash=c914d02f504f4ca6a9b3aec5649d221c8142fd67)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fhighwayexplorer.com%2FPhotos%2FIntchg%2FI65--I80-I94-3.jpg&hash=9388c0830244563ce4c2af8bf27252c41902f71c)
As for Des Moines, I agree and that is what I wrote.
I stand corrected. The last time i was on the Borman about a year and a half ago, those signs were not up.
Here's what I got for Utah. Out-of-state control points are in parentheses, and (generally) listed in terms of use:
I-15: Salt Lake, (Las Vegas), Cedar City*, St. George*, Ogden, Brigham City**, Tremonton, (Pocatello)
I-80: Salt Lake, Wendover, (Reno), (Cheyenne), (Evanston)
I-70: Richfield, Green River, (Denver), (Grand Junction), Salina^, (Las Vegas)^^
I-84: Ogden, Brigham City**, (Boise), Morgan, (Cheyenne), (Evanston)
Not sure of any on I-215...
*Sometimes interchangeable, but Cedar City seems much more commonly used because of its more "central" location in S. Utah and was, until the late 1970s/early 1980s, larger than St. George.
**Used for both I-15 & I-84 because of their concurrency.
^More likely used for NB US-89 drivers, as the I-70/US-89 concurrency has its northern end at Salina.
^^Believe it or not, signs for WB I-70 (once west of Richfield) use Las Vegas as a control point.
Quote from: bassoon1986 on March 26, 2012, 01:37:25 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 25, 2012, 03:37:15 PM
How come LA broke the rule of their own for signing local cities as control points like PA does on their interstates in Shreveport? Dallas is used as control city for I-20 WB instead of one of the intermediate points like Monroe is used going east from there. Bay St. Louis is used on I-10 from all interchanges in Slidell, LA including I-12 and I-59, etc. Then Opelousas is used on I-49 from Lafayette northward instead of Alexandria which gives many of us indigestion cause the way the cookie crumbles at that location.
Louisiana did not follow suit here and acted like most states do in one instance.
I'm not sure I understand your question. Are you saying Louisiana breaks the "rule" of posting local cities by putting places like Dallas and Monroe, or that it breaks the "rule" the opposite way by posting Opelousas or Bay St. Louis rather than larger cities? Louisiana's 3di's pretty much have the same control city as their parent. Or at least the 3di loops do:
220 - Dallas or Monroe, same as I-20
210 - Beaumont or Lafayette, same as 1-10
610 - Baton Rouge or Slidell, same as I-10
I don't think Monroe is an intermediate point. It is a city large enough to be a control city. I don't think there's an intermediate city or another city mentioned before Dallas going westbound because there really isn't a city large enough between the 2. (Longview is smaller but really only has 3-4 exits; Tyler is too far south of I-20)
As for Opelousas and Bay St. Louis, I really consider these to be leftovers that never got replaced once interstates were completed. Bay St. Louis was a control city because I-10 stopped at Mississippi's exit 2 (MS 607) defaulting travelers southward to US 90. Opelousas has gotta be from 49's early days when it was only 20 miles long from Lafayette to Opelousas. Although, there is one sign in Downtown Alexandria on I-49 Southbound at the Pineville Expwy (US 167/LA 28) exit that says Lafayette rather than Opelousas. That is also the newest section of completed 49 so far.
Actually, the first. It seems that Dallas is the only place in Louisiana that is not the next sequential city for the way of travel on its interstate system. Only on I-10 between Baton Rouge and New Orleans is the next large city used because there are no smaller cities like Slidell, or Hammond in between the two. I just thought that was odd, that's all.
^^Believe it or not, signs for WB I-70 (once west of Richfield) use Las Vegas as a control point.
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This makes sense, as almost all non-local traffic on I-70 west of Richfield will transition to I-15 south toward Vegas. I know it's the quickest route from Denver.
Quote from: The High Plains Traveler on March 23, 2012, 11:00:02 PM
Colorado:
NB I-25: Pueblo, Colorado Springs ("Colo Spgs"), Denver, Ft. Collins, Cheyenne
SB I-25: Denver w/ some Ft. Collins in there, Denver, Colorado Springs, Pueblo, Walsenburg, Trinidad, Raton
EB I-70: Grand Junction, Denver, Limon, ? (Burlington or Salina from distance signs on I-70)
WB I-70: Limon, Denver, Grand Junction, Green River
EB I-76: Ft. Morgan, ? (North Platte or Lincoln from distance signs on I-76)
WB I-76: Denver
New Mexico:
NB I-25: Albuquerque, Santa Fe, Las Vegas, Raton, Trinidad
SB I-25: Santa Fe, Albuquerque, Las Cruces
EB I-10: Las Cruces, El Paso
WB I-10: Las Cruces, Tucson
EB I-40: Albuquerque, Santa Rosa, Tucumcari, Amarillo
WB I-40: Albuquerque, Gallup, Flagstaff
I-225 SB:
From I-70 EB: Aurora/Colorado Springs
From I-70 WB: Colorado Springs
From Tamarac St/DTC Blvd: Denver (via I-25 N)/Colorado Springs (via I-25 S)
I-225 NB:
From I-25 (both directions): To I-70 (Airport Symbol)/Aurora/Limon
From Yosemite St: Aurora
All Aurora interchanges (Parker Rd (SR 83)/Iliff Ave/Mississippi Ave/Alameda Ave/6th Ave (SR 30)/Colfax Ave (Bus 70/US 40/287) show North or South only.
I-270 WB
From I-70 WB: Westminster (via US 36 W)/Ft Collins (via I-25 N)
From Northfield/Quebec St: Westminster/Boulder (both via US 36 W)
From Vasquez Blvd/US 85: Boulder
From I-76 WB: Boulder
I-270 EB:
From I-25 SB: Aurora/Limon
From I-76 EB: Limon
From Vasquez Blvd/US 85 NB: Limon
Quote from: roadman65 on March 25, 2012, 03:37:15 PM
How come LA broke the rule of their own for signing local cities as control points like PA does on their interstates in Shreveport? Dallas is used as control city for I-20 WB instead of one of the intermediate points like Monroe is used going east from there. Bay St. Louis is used on I-10 from all interchanges in Slidell, LA including I-12 and I-59, etc. Then Opelousas is used on I-49 from Lafayette northward instead of Alexandria which gives many of us indigestion cause the way the cookie crumbles at that location.
Louisiana did not follow suit here and acted like most states do in one instance.
I always found Opelousas to be a strange chocie of control city. At least other small control cities are highway junctions or something, like Hammond (Ih 12 and IH 55), Slidell (IH 10, IH 12, and IH59.)Monroe and Alexandria are fairly large enough cities, but Opelousas?
The reason for Opelousas instead of Alexandria is a relic of the days when I 49 did not go to Alexandria. With the improvements to it though, Alexandria should replace opelousas.
Quote from: PHLBOS on March 22, 2012, 07:08:02 PM
Pennsylvania (I only include Interstates I've actually ridden on)
I-70: Washington, Hagerstown (MD), Baltimore (MD)
Wheeling; Washington, Pa; New Stanton; Washington, DC
Quote from: PHLBOS on March 22, 2012, 07:08:02 PMI-76: Ohio, Pittsburgh, Harrisburg, Valley Forge, Philadelphia, Central Philadelphia, Walt Whitman Bridge, Atlantic City (NJ)
There is one instance of Cleveland at Exit 75 and Exit 77 uses "Youngstown OH."
Quote from: PHLBOS on March 22, 2012, 07:08:02 PMI-79: Morgantown (WV), Pittsburgh, Erie
Washington sans "Pa"
Quote from: PHLBOS on March 22, 2012, 07:08:02 PMI-99 *cough-cough*: Altoona (did not get a chance to read southbound control destination)
Bedford, Altoona, State College, Bellefonte
Quote from: PHLBOS on March 22, 2012, 07:08:02 PMI-279: Pittsburgh, Fort Pitt Tunnel, Erie (rode on prior to southern leg being redesignated as I-376)
Fort Pitt Bridge rather than Fort Pitt Tunnel
I-80: Youngstown OH, Sharon, Mercer, Clarion, DuBois, Bellefonte, Williamsport, Bloomsburg, Hazleton, Stroudsburg
I-84: Scranton, Milford
I-86: Erie, Jamestown NY
I-90: Cleveland OH, Erie, Buffalo NY
I-180: Williamsport, Montoursville, Milton
I-376: Sharon, New Castle, Beaver, [Pittsburgh International] Airport, Pittsburgh, Monroeville
I-380: Scranton, Mount Pocono
I-579: Liberty Bridge, Veterans Bridge
Quote from: achilles765 on March 27, 2012, 04:52:14 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 25, 2012, 03:37:15 PM
How come LA broke the rule of their own for signing local cities as control points like PA does on their interstates in Shreveport? Dallas is used as control city for I-20 WB instead of one of the intermediate points like Monroe is used going east from there. Bay St. Louis is used on I-10 from all interchanges in Slidell, LA including I-12 and I-59, etc. Then Opelousas is used on I-49 from Lafayette northward instead of Alexandria which gives many of us indigestion cause the way the cookie crumbles at that location.
Louisiana did not follow suit here and acted like most states do in one instance.
I always found Opelousas to be a strange chocie of control city. At least other small control cities are highway junctions or something, like Hammond (Ih 12 and IH 55), Slidell (IH 10, IH 12, and IH59.)Monroe and Alexandria are fairly large enough cities, but Opelousas?
The reason for Opelousas instead of Alexandria is a relic of the days when I 49 did not go to Alexandria. With the improvements to it though, Alexandria should replace opelousas.
Pennsylvania has the same issue with Milford as a control city for I-84 EB as Milford is not even a major highway junction with another interstate. It is a small borough and one traffic light in the entire corporation. Middletown, NY or Newburgh, NY would make better choices cause both of those have other interstate junctions (well only one as NY 17 is not yet I-86) or even Hartford, CT as most travelers on I-84 are en route to the New England state. Heck even Port Jervis would be fine as it is at the NY-PA State Border.
LA and PA both use sequential cities as control points instead of the next large cities unless it is the very next one. The PA Turnpike does use Philadelphia over Harrisburg in some places in Western, PA where the State Capital is closest and a large enough metropolis. Also, state names are used ie Ohio and New Jersey instead of the cities that are in those states.
Arizona
I-8 Tucson-Phoenix Tucson/Yuma/San Diego
I-10 Los Angeles/Phoenix Globe-Tucson (I-10/US60) Tucson/El Paso
I-15 Las Vegas/Salt Lake City
I-17 Wickenberg - Flagstaff (I-17/US60) Tucson/Phoenix/Flagstaff Phoenix - Sedona (I-17/AZ 89A)
I-19 Nogales/Tucson
I-40 Los Angeles/Kingman/Flagstaff/Winslow/Holbrook/Albuquerque
US60 Globe/Mesa/Tempe/Phoenix/Wickenberg
Quote from: Brandon on March 22, 2012, 10:38:45 PM
Quote from: pianocello on March 22, 2012, 06:00:48 PM
Illinois:
Other:
IL-255: Interstate 270, Alton
IL-394: Danville, Chicago
IL-53: North Suburbs, West Suburbs
IL-56: Sugar Grove, Chicago
Elgin-O'Hare Expy: No controls, just East or West
US-20 (Rockford): Freeport, Belvidere
IL-6: Chillicothe, To I-74/474
US-34 (Galesburg): Kewanee, Monmouth, Galesburg
US-41 (LSD): No controls, juts North or South
US 50: Vincennes, Lawrenceville
IL 92: Rock Island, Andalusia
Quote from: bassoon1986 on March 24, 2012, 12:26:50 AM
Golden Eagle:
No Pascagoula for I-10 in MS?
And I remember some exits for 220 in Jackson saying things like North Jackson, but that's more directional than a control city I guess.
As mentioned by someone else earlier, no signage for Pascagoula in MS. To be honest, Pascagoula may not be a good control city since you actually have to travel through Moss Point if exiting from I-10. At least I-10 touches Biloxi and Gulfport and are significantly larger in both population and socially than Pascagoula.
Quote from: achilles765 on March 27, 2012, 04:52:14 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 25, 2012, 03:37:15 PM
How come LA broke the rule of their own for signing local cities as control points like PA does on their interstates in Shreveport? Dallas is used as control city for I-20 WB instead of one of the intermediate points like Monroe is used going east from there. Bay St. Louis is used on I-10 from all interchanges in Slidell, LA including I-12 and I-59, etc. Then Opelousas is used on I-49 from Lafayette northward instead of Alexandria which gives many of us indigestion cause the way the cookie crumbles at that location.
Louisiana did not follow suit here and acted like most states do in one instance.
I always found Opelousas to be a strange chocie of control city. At least other small control cities are highway junctions or something, like Hammond (Ih 12 and IH 55), Slidell (IH 10, IH 12, and IH59.)Monroe and Alexandria are fairly large enough cities, but Opelousas?
The reason for Opelousas instead of Alexandria is a relic of the days when I 49 did not go to Alexandria. With the improvements to it though, Alexandria should replace opelousas.
Sorry, but Opelousas is more than legit as an I-49 control city for the following reasons:
It is the parish seat for St. Landry Parish.
It is the largest city between Lafayette and Alexandria.
It serves as a transition point for traffic wanting to use US 190 to/from Baton Rouge without crossing the Atchafalaya Basin.
Also, neither I-12 nor I-55 travel directly through Hammond to begin with, but due to its importance as a junction between I-12 and I-55, I would have no problem with Hammond as a secondary control city.
And..I'd say that even if I didn't live in Opelousas, too.
Anthony
Quote from: bassoon1986 on March 26, 2012, 01:37:25 AM
As for Opelousas and Bay St. Louis, I really consider these to be leftovers that never got replaced once interstates were completed. Bay St. Louis was a control city because I-10 stopped at Mississippi's exit 2 (MS 607) defaulting travelers southward to US 90. Opelousas has gotta be from 49's early days when it was only 20 miles long from Lafayette to Opelousas. Although, there is one sign in Downtown Alexandria on I-49 Southbound at the Pineville Expwy (US 167/LA 28) exit that says Lafayette rather than Opelousas. That is also the newest section of completed 49 so far.
Agreed. You can apply the same logic to Pascagoula being a control city on I-10 from Mobile: I-10 from the Gautier exit to Franklin Creek Road wasn't completed until the early 80s due to the bridges over the Pascagoula and Escatawpa rivers, so Pascagoula was used westbound from Mobile. Not sure what it was from Biloxi eastbound.
Quote from: Anthony_JK on March 28, 2012, 12:08:57 AM
Quote from: achilles765 on March 27, 2012, 04:52:14 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on March 25, 2012, 03:37:15 PM
How come LA broke the rule of their own for signing local cities as control points like PA does on their interstates in Shreveport? Dallas is used as control city for I-20 WB instead of one of the intermediate points like Monroe is used going east from there. Bay St. Louis is used on I-10 from all interchanges in Slidell, LA including I-12 and I-59, etc. Then Opelousas is used on I-49 from Lafayette northward instead of Alexandria which gives many of us indigestion cause the way the cookie crumbles at that location.
Louisiana did not follow suit here and acted like most states do in one instance.
I always found Opelousas to be a strange chocie of control city. At least other small control cities are highway junctions or something, like Hammond (Ih 12 and IH 55), Slidell (IH 10, IH 12, and IH59.)Monroe and Alexandria are fairly large enough cities, but Opelousas?
The reason for Opelousas instead of Alexandria is a relic of the days when I 49 did not go to Alexandria. With the improvements to it though, Alexandria should replace opelousas.
Sorry, but Opelousas is more than legit as an I-49 control city for the following reasons:
It is the parish seat for St. Landry Parish.
It is the largest city between Lafayette and Alexandria.
It serves as a transition point for traffic wanting to use US 190 to/from Baton Rouge without crossing the Atchafalaya Basin.
Also, neither I-12 nor I-55 travel directly through Hammond to begin with, but due to its importance as a junction between I-12 and I-55, I would have no problem with Hammond as a secondary control city.
And..I'd say that even if I didn't live in Opelousas, too.
Anthony
Haha, good points. I guess I support the use of Hammond (and Slidell for that matter) because that's the area in which I grew up. I could live with seeing it as a secondary. After all, at IH 12's eastern end, when heading west the BGS are signed "Interstate 12 West: Hammond Baton Rouge."
Finally, I-55 skirts the western edge of Hammond, but Interstate 12 cuts through the southern boundary. If I remember correctly from when I worked around that area, the city limits extend down to the US 51/ IH 55 interchange.
in Mobile, AL, the control cities for the south end of I-65 are "Florida" and "Mississippi". this is a great improvement over the old "Pensacola" and "Pascagoula". I remember I always had a hard time parsing two very similar-looking city names at speed, especially being from out of the region and having no instinctive connection to either.
Someone posted a partial list for New York. I recall I-81 northbound listing Syracuse, Watertown, and Canada (how's that for an unspecific control "city"?); southbound listed Watertown, Syracuse, and Binghamton. Don't recall whether there were any signs south of Binghamton listing that city (northbound) or Scranton (southbound).
Yes, Scranton is the control city for I-81 south of Binghamton, and Binghamton is used north of Scranton.
For years Cortland, NY was used as control city on I-81 south of Syracuse and Binghamton was only used from Homer southward. Yet Syracuse was always used for the entire distance from Binghamton and Syracuse.
Further on south, in PA, Carlisle is used as control city on I-81 from the MD Line to it instead of Harrisburg the larger city and State Capital. Carlisle is a suburb of Harrisburg and you wonder why PennDOT would choose a smaller city over the large one.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on May 08, 2012, 06:04:31 PM
I've never heard of the city of "65 mph". is it bigger than Delaware Water Gap?
Bigger than Delaware Water Gap, smaller than Thru Traffic.
Quote from: pianocello on March 22, 2012, 06:00:48 PM
Iowa (eastern half):
I-80: Chicago, Iowa City, Davenport, Des Moines, more farther west
...Council Bluffs, Omaha
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I-280: Des Moines, Moline, Rock Island
I-74: Davenport, Bettendorf (I think the only control cities are at the I-80 interchange)
I-380: Cedar Rapids, Waterloo, Iowa City
I-29: Sioux Falls, Sioux City, Council Bluffs, Kansas City
I-35: Minneapolis, Des Moines, Kansas City
*Ames, Mason City, and St. Paul sometimes make distance signs, and Mason City is the control city at the US 20 interchange instead of Minneapolis.
I-235: West Des Moines and Des Moines on I-35/80, but none on the freeway itself
I-680: North Omaha, Des Moines
*The BGS along I-80 at the east end list North Omaha and Sioux City, since I-680 serves as a shortcut from I-80 to northbound I-29.
How come Plymouth Meeting is used for I-476 in Chester, PA on I-95? Who is going to go there anyway? Plus, you have Allentown or Scranton that are now along I-476 and are major PA cities that at least people heard of and are big in this particular commonwealth.
Quote from: mukade on March 25, 2012, 10:27:39 AM
Quote from: cabiness42 on March 23, 2012, 12:38:32 PM
Quote from: tdindy88 on March 22, 2012, 10:42:55 PM
For Indiana:
I-80: Chicago, Toledo/Ohio
I-94: Chicago, Detroit
Detroit is the Eastbound control city for the I-80/94 multiplex, so I guess technically Detroit is a control city for I-80 also (even though I-80 doesn't go there).
No doubt that it is a control city on the Borman, but I think most of the signs have both Detroit and Toledo to account for the two routes. Some signs show Detroit only so that would be technically true. By the same logic, I-465 would then have Cincinnati and Peoria as control cities as would where I-65 and I-70 overlap.
Regarding that: There's only one interchange where Toledo is added to Detroit for the I-80/94 Eastbound multiplex, and that is at the I-65 interchange. All other ramps west of I-65 in Indiana only mention Detroit on I-80/94 East.
The reason for this is because on I-65, control "cities" for I-80/94 were Chicago/Illinois (west) and Ohio/Michigan (east). In 1997, INDOT did a massive sign makeover in Lake County, and the control cities were changed; I-80/94 west mentions Chicago only (no Illinois), and I-80/94 east was given Toledo/Detroit.
As an aside: years before the transfer of power of the Indiana Toll Road, INDOT did another sign makeover, and the sign is still there to this day. An overhead trialblazer sign at the I-65 (exit 17) interchange reads, "I-90 East to East I-80/94: Toledo OH." This is the only instance on the Eastbound Toll Road where Toledo is mentioned as a control city. All other mentions of Toledo in Indiana are on distance guide signs, the first of which is right after aforementioned interchange.
Toledo is also posted at the Central Avenue interchange although I suppose that is technically part of the I-65 ramp. Regardless, I-65 proper and the Central Avenue exit are the newest parts of the Borman so I would suspect Toledo will be listed on any new signs - like if SR 51 ever was upgraded.
On I-65 at the Toll Road don't the signs have Illinois and and Ohio?
Also, didn't I-65 at the Borman use to have at least one "Illinois Wisconsin" sign?
Quote from: mukade on June 02, 2012, 09:29:53 PM
Toledo is also posted at the Central Avenue interchange although I suppose that is technically part of the I-65 ramp. Regardless, I-65 proper and the Central Avenue exit are the newest parts of the Borman so I would suspect Toledo will be listed on any new signs - like if SR 51 ever was upgraded.
On I-65 at the Toll Road don't the signs have Illinois and and Ohio?
Also, didn't I-65 at the Borman use to have at least one "Illinois Wisconsin" sign?
You are right; those pull-through signs on the C/D ramp is mainly for traffic entering from I-65. You are also right about the control states for the Toll Road from I-65; they're designated as Illinois and Ohio, though on the ramp itself, I-90 west is designated as Chicago.
As for the Illinois/Wisconsin sign, you are partially right; before the 2007 reconstruction, there was a auxiliary information sign which said, "To Wisconsin via I-94 West, Exit 259A." It was on I-65 northbound right before the lanes split apart for the I-80/94 westbound departure. As you implied, it no longer stands.
As for the Indiana 51 interchange, the reason those roads have no control cities is because of the connection to the Toll Road; it would be confusing to the average driver to know there are technically two roads that lead to Chicago, with one of them branching from the I-80/94 East ramp. Also, if anyone were to use Indiana 51 to stop for gas and were heading for Des Moines (the control city for I-80 west from the westbound Toll Road), it would be baffling for those drivers to re-enter I-80 with Chicago given as a control city for I-94. I know that's the case for ramps west of that area, but the linkage to the Toll Road throws everything out of whack. There is no clear-cut solution to this problem; this interchange justifies the need for a road atlas. :)
EDIT: You could designate I-80/94 West as "Des Moines/Chicago" and I-80/94 East (I-90) as "Toll Road/Detroit," but I will go into greater detail on the "Fictional Highways" board, if it is applicable.
Because of the confusing situation at SR 51, I would conclude the opposite and say they need control cities. Is there any plan to upgrade this last section of the Borman and that interchange? At least the pavement needs to be replaced on the Borman.
I remember some time ago, INDOT was studying an extension of SR 51 to US 12 to be a better route to the National Lakeshore (specifically West Beach). Is that still alive?
Quote from: mukade on June 02, 2012, 10:52:53 PM
Because of the confusing situation at SR 51, I would conclude the opposite and say they need control cities. Is there any plan to upgrade this last section of the Borman and that interchange? At least the pavement needs to be replaced on the Borman.
I remember some time ago, INDOT was studying an extension of SR 51 to US 12 to be a better route to the National Lakeshore (specifically West Beach). Is that still alive?
I remember a newspaper article saying briefly that there was a plan in the works to reconstruct the Borman-Ripley interchange, but the funds from the Major Moves initiative were already exhausted. I'm sure they have something for it later down the pipeline, but nothing in the immediate future. It needs it; the cloverleaf system there is severely congested and outdated, especially since Ripley is a truck haven. Worse, that ramp system is shared with the Toll Road commission; THAT section needs serious repair and repainting (look at the high point of the triple-stack at Toll Road exit 21; that bridge is decrepit.).
The pavement on the Borman was replaced in 2008; it's still in excellent driving condition to this day (I just drove it yesterday).
If you can provide me a link or anything that you have that showed INDOT studying an Indiana 51 extension to U.S. 12, I'd love to see it. I personally have not heard anything about the Ripley Extension; I could see it being a good idea, but only if it's a two-lane road and only passenger vehicles are allowed. It seems to me that officials find the current link between West Beach and the expressway (via U.S. 20 and County Line Road) viable...for now.
All the Borman pavement except from east of Central to the Toll Road was replaced. That one section does not have good pavement.
The 51 extension proposal was in the late 80s or 90s. It made sense, but the question was whether or not the National Park Service would make the land available.
Quote from: mukade on June 02, 2012, 11:41:30 PM
All the Borman pavement except from east of Central to the Toll Road was replaced. That one section does not have good pavement.
The 51 extension proposal was in the late 80s or 90s. It made sense, but the question was whether or not the National Park Service would make the land available.
I think you mean concrete replacement; the section between Clay Street and the Porter Co. Line was replaced with asphalt...not the best, but it's held up well, in my opinion. As for the 51 extension, I always saw it in my head, but I figured the difficulty lied in whether the National Park Service was willing to play ball.
Hey is South Dakota ever gonna use control cities at all of its interstate junctions? I noticed, when I was there back in 01, that all of the junctions, excluding the I-90 & I-190 interchange, had no cities at all.
On google street view I did see that finally at its one and only major interstate junction (I-29 and I-90) signs have been changed and Rapid City/ Albert Lea are used on I-29 for I-90 as well as Fargo/ Sioux City are used for I-29 on I-90. However, there is no control points still at the I-90 & I-229 interchange.
Quote from: roadman65 on May 16, 2012, 09:36:03 PM
How come Plymouth Meeting is used for I-476 in Chester, PA on I-95? Who is going to go there anyway? Plus, you have Allentown or Scranton that are now along I-476 and are major PA cities that at least people heard of and are big in this particular commonwealth.
At the time, PennDOT used those control cities for the Blue Route because those were the nearest locales to the respective termini of I-476... prior to it being connected and designated along the Turnpike NE Extension.
It is worth noting that the original signage for I-476 North, prior to the entire road fully opening in 1991
had Allentown on one or two of its signs but the signs were either taken down or had
Plymouth Meeting replaced (in non-button-copy form) on the sign boards. One old sign along Matson Ford Road still has a blank space for where
Allentown (in button-copy lettering) was supposed to go.
Examples of such are shown in these vintage 1978 photos:
http://www.pennways.com/I476_PA_WCI.html (http://www.pennways.com/I476_PA_WCI.html)
In the 2nd photo, the pull-through sign for I-476 North indeed reads as
476 NORTH Allentown. The sign was taken down in 1991. At present, only the overhead sign bridge structure remains.
Note: the
NORTH 476 on the signboard in the 3rd photo was likely originally planned to read as:
476 NORTH
Allentown(Left Arrow angled at 45 degrees)
The sign was replaced with the current horizontally-laid out
476 NORTH Plymouth Meeting either when the Schuylkill Expressway was overhauled in the mid-80s or when the southern leg opened in 1991.
Personally, PennDOT should've used 2 control cities for the I-476 Blue Route signs: Plymouth Mtg. - Allentown for northbound, Chester - Wilmington for southbound.
As an addendum:
On Cline Avenue (Indiana 912), the overhead signs for I-80/94 East (Detroit) have an I-65 shield tacked on, but only at the ramps themselves, and not on the advance signs.
Also, I know someone mentioned it already, but I-355 North at I-80 had the more vague "Northwest Suburbs" replaced with the more specific "Rockford," a result of the recently completed makeover on I-80. I kinda see where they were going with this, but "Schaumburg" or "Naperville/Aurora" would be a touch more fitting, especially when the free and less congested I-39 sits 60 miles away.
I'd love for anyone to debate this with me; I am just very curious about it.
I noticed Wisconsin has not been done yet. These are from memory so I may be wrong with a couple. Main control cities are in bold.
I-39: Chicago, Janesville (SB only), Madison, Portage, Stevens Point, Wausau, Merrill (Rockford does not show up until IL Rt 75)
I-43: Beloit, Milwaukee, Sheboygan, Manitowoc, Green Bay, Marinette/Iron Mountain via 41/141 (this is on the Bayport Dr and E Shore Dr/Webster Ave entrance ramps)
I-90: Albert Lea, La Crosse, Tomah, Wisconsin Dells, Portage, Madison, Janesville (EB only), Chicago
I-94: St Paul, Eau Claire, Tomah, Wisconsin Dells, Portage, Madison, Milwaukee, Chicago
I-894: Chicago, Madison/Fond du Lac
CONNECTICUT:
I-84 West in Danbury is signed as NY State.
I-84 East from Hartford is signed eastward as Boston.
I-384 East for its whole length is signed eastward as Providence.
Quote from: nwi_navigator_1181 on June 27, 2012, 12:18:45 AM
On Cline Avenue (Indiana 912), the overhead signs for I-80/94 East (Detroit) have an I-65 shield tacked on, but only at the ramps themselves, and not on the advance signs.
When did that happen? I assume they say "TO" I-65, right? Do you have pictures?
Quote from: mukade on June 27, 2012, 11:00:50 PM
Quote from: nwi_navigator_1181 on June 27, 2012, 12:18:45 AM
On Cline Avenue (Indiana 912), the overhead signs for I-80/94 East (Detroit) have an I-65 shield tacked on, but only at the ramps themselves, and not on the advance signs.
When did that happen? I assume they say "TO" I-65, right? Do you have pictures?
I will provide a picture this weekend, for I am heading out to Joliet for work. I stumbled upon it as I was coming back from my first weekend in Joliet.
I don't know when it happened exactly, but it was just weird. It seriously looked like the I-65 shield was just tacked on right beside "Detroit." I'm sure it was done under the assumption that drivers would fill in the word "TO," which isn't even there!
As promised, here's what I saw earlier today:
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This is the sign as seen by traffic driving on Northbound Cline Avenue. This is so tacked on; no other sign in the interchange system mentions I-65, except maybe the similar signage on the southbound ramps (which I did not attempt due to the high speed nature of the area).
That is just weird. That is not an inadvertant change, either. The one thing it does show is if US 41 in Wisconsin were to become I-65 by some miracle, INDOT could ditch the US 6 shield (just like is done in Indy) and put the I-65 shield where it is instead. Not much work at all.
Anyway, it is an interesting error.
I-5 South Oregon from Portland - Salem, Eugene, Roseburg, Medford, Redding
I-5 North Washington from Portland - Seattle, Vancouver BC
I-84 East Oregon - The Dalles, Pendleton, Ontario
Quote from: 1995hoo on March 23, 2012, 12:21:52 PM
I live in Virginia and I'm not motivated enough to look up a full list, especially as to those in Southwest Virginia (where I seldom drive). Off the top of my head I can think of the following:
I-64: Norfolk (eastbound east of Richmond); Richmond (westbound and eastbound); don't recall otherwise but I seem to recall a sign on the I-81 concurrency mentioning Charleston (without a "WV" clarifier, which struck me as odd when I saw it).
I-66: Washington; Front Royal; Strasburg; some newer signs mention Manassas in conjunction with Front Royal.
I-77: I've only used it southbound (not counting I-81 concurrency) and I think I remember the signs listing Charlotte without an "NC" clarifier. I last used that road in December 2004 on a football trip to Charlotte.
I-81: Winchester; Roanoke; I believe south of Roanoke you see Bristol. Don't recall north of Winchester. I hate driving on I-81 in Virginia because so many car drivers can't seem to deal with all the trucks.
I-85: There aren't many overhead signs on I-85 itself. Distance signs generally list Durham, NC, on the bottom line (I seen to recall some include "NC" and some don't). The overhead signs on I-95 as you approach the I-85 exit have Blackstone and South Hill on one set of signs (both in Virginia) and Durham and Atlanta on the others (neither with state included).
I-95: Washington; Baltimore (without MD); Richmond; Rocky Mount NC; a couple of famous signs list Miami (once upon a time with FL, generally without)
I-195: I believe southbound this is signed "TO Powhite Parkway" without a control city. Don't know northbound. Usually I simply view this road from the Auto Train since it doesn't go anywhere I normally need to drive.
I-295: Charlottesville; Rocky Mount NC; might be others northbound but I do not recall as I've used it more often heading south.
I-395: Washington northbound, Richmond southbound
I-495: Tysons Corner; Richmond; Alexandria; Baltimore (Baltimore without a MD clarifier). Rockville (without MD) appears on some signs leading to the Beltway. Signs now reading "Tysons Corner" originally said "Frederick" (up in Maryland), but the business community in Tysons Corner objected.
I-581: Roanoke; Airport
I haven't been to the Tidewater area in a long time since my brother graduated from William & Mary, but I seem to recall I-564 being signed for "Naval Base." Don't recall the others. I-264 did not yet extend to Virginia Beach the last time I was down there, but I assume the signs most likely now say "Virginia Beach," "Norfolk," and "Portsmouth." I haven't been through Bristol since May 1997, but I assume I-381 southbound is signed "Bristol" and northbound is probably signed as "TO I-81."
I-77 Northbound from the I-81 concurrency lists Bluefield and Charleston, WV as primaries and possibly Beckley, WV as a secondary
I don't know if images of these were posted here before (they may have been). On northbound I-95, these are the first two mentions of New York, both in Fairfax County, Va.
Between the Va. 123 (Gordon Boulevard) interchange in Prince William County and the U.S. 1 interchange in Fairfax County is this:
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A few miles further north between Va. 602 (Lorton Road) and Va. 286 (Fairfax County Parkway) is this panel on the right. Prior to the completion of the Springfield Interchange reconstruction, the sign read "2 RIGHT LANES."
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Quote from: KEVIN_224 on June 27, 2012, 08:36:34 PM
CONNECTICUT:
I-84 West in Danbury is signed as NY State.
Actually, a couple of the new signs at Exit 7 say
Newburgh instead of NY State. The ones at Exit 3 still say NY State. Google Maps hasn't updated it yet, but I was out that way in early October.
You are correct! I'm not on that part of I-84 all too often. I do wish they had fixed that sign with all the others recently. Exit 3 for US Route 7 South is already a left exit there.
Quote from: brownpelican on March 25, 2012, 10:24:56 PM
Quote from: bassoon1986 on March 24, 2012, 12:26:50 AM
Golden Eagle:
No Pascagoula for I-10 in MS?
And I remember some exits for 220 in Jackson saying things like North Jackson, but that's more directional than a control city I guess.
That's in Alabama only.
In South Carolina:
I-20: Augusta, Columbia, Florence
I-26: Asheville, Spartanburg, Columbia, Charleston
I-77: Charlotte, Columbia, Charleston
I-85: Atlanta, Greenville, Spartanburg, Charlotte
I-95: Savannah, Florence, Fayetteville
I-126: Downtown Columbia, Elmwood Road, Spartanburg
I-185: Atlanta, Greenville Downtown, Columbia
I-385: Columbia, Greenville, Downtown
I-520: Augusta, Columbia
I-526: Savannah, Mount Pleasant
I-585: Spartanburg, Inman, Pine Street, Downtown
Now, I am adding a couple more - those in the Augusta area in Georgia.
I-20 Atlanta, Augusta, Columbia
I-520 Atlanta, Augusta, Columbia
BTW, the CSRA interstates in brownpelican's post are bolded.
Quote from: hbelkins on March 23, 2012, 11:33:35 AM
Kentucky:
I-24: St. Louis/Paducah; Paducah/Nashville
I-64: Louisville/Lexington; Lexington/Ashland
I-65: Indianapolis/Louisville; Louisville/Nashville (sometimes Elizabethtown or Bowling Green will show up south of Louisville)
I-71: Louisville/Cincinnati
I-75: Lexington/Cincinnati; Lexington/Knoxville
I-264 at its western terminus at I-64 gets a control city of Shively.
I-64 also gets New Albany in downtown Louisville.
A couple additions for 3di's:
I-275 westbound in Northern Kentucky uses the Cincinnati Northern Kentucky International Airport as a control destination beginning from I-471.
On exit signs at that same interchange, I-471 northbound gets the control cities of Cincinnati and Newport, and I-275 east gets Columbus, Ohio.
In Ohio, I know of a few control cities used:
I-71 northbound gets Columbus, Cleveland and I think I have seen Mansfield also used just north of Columbus, though I might be wrong about that one.
For I-275 on the Ohio side of the river, Indianapolis and Columbus are used as you travel along I-75; Dayton (for I-75's northbound control city) and Kentucky are used where I-74 and I-275 are multiplexed (except at the I-74/275 interchange with Hamilton-Cleves Pike where Cincinnati is used eastbound); and on the eastern edge of the loop, Kentucky is used as you come down toward the river near the US 52 interchange.
I-471 gets Newport, Kentucky as a control.
I-270 uses Cleveland, Cincinnati, Dayton and Wheeling.
I-74 uses Indianapolis.
Oh, and a few miles outside of downtown Cincinnati, near the I-74 interchange, I-75 south uses downtown as a control point. Yet, on I-74 Eastbound at the same interchange, Lexington is used as the control city for I-75 Southbound. In the city of Cincinnati, Dayton is used for I-75 northbound.
I've seen Cleveland and Cincinnati while walking over I-71 in Columbus two years ago. This was looking down near Exit 109A for I-670, signed as "Airport/Dayton."
Quote from: drummer_evans_aki on June 30, 2012, 08:13:35 PM
I-5 South Oregon from Portland - Salem, Eugene, Roseburg, Medford, Redding
I-5 North Washington from Portland - Seattle, Vancouver BC
I-84 East Oregon - The Dalles, Pendleton, Ontario
I've seen Yreka signed south of Ashland. I think the first mention of Redding isn't until you hit Hornbrook, about 10 miles south of the OR/CA state line.
I'll just list the major control points for all the Interstate routes in Montana.
90:
Lookout Pass
Taft Area
Saltese
Haugan
De Borgia
St. Regis (MT 135)
Superior (MT Secondary 257)
Lozeau/Quartz
Tarkio
Cyr
Alberton (I-90 Bus/MT Secondary 507)
Nine Mile Road (Old US 10)
Huson
Frenchtown (MT Secondary 263)
Missoula (including East Missoula) (I-90 Bus, Old US 10, US 93 SB to Hamilton, US 12 EB to Lolo before it splits off to Lolo Pass and Lewiston, ID)
Bonner/Milltown (MT 200 to Great Falls)
Turah
Clinton
Bearmouth Area
Drummond
Phillipsburg
Garrison Jct. (US 12 to Helena)
Deer Lodge (I-90 Bus)
Warm Springs
Annaconda/Opportunity (MT 1)
I-15/90 Split Southbound to Dillon and Idaho Falls, ID
I-90/15 Split Northbound to Helena and Great Falls, I-115 to Butte City Center, I-90/15 Bus
Homestake Pass
Whitehall (MT 55 to MT 69)
US 287 to Helena and Ennis
Three Forks (MT 2, MT Secondary 205)
Amsterdam
Belgrade (MT Secondary 291)
West Yellowstone
Bozeman (MT Secondary 412, I-90 Bus, and US 191)
Livingston
Laurel
Billings (I-94/90 Split, I-94 EB to Miles City, I-90 EB to Sheridan, WY)
Harden
Crow Agency
15:
Dillon
Butte (I-90/15 Split, WB to Missoula, EB to Bozeman)
Helena
Great Falls (MT 3/MT 200/I-15 Bus or Secret I-315/US 87 to Black Eagle)
Sidney (US 89)
Sweetgrass at MT/Lethbridge Alberta, CAN border (US I-15/ALB 4 transition)
94:
Billings (I-94/90 Split, WB to Butte, EB to Sheridan, WY)
Huntley
Pompeys Pillar
Forsyth
Miles City
West Glendive
Glendive
Wibaux
Arkansas:
I-30: Texarkana, Little Rock
I-40: Fort Smith, Little Rock, Memphis (incidentally I-40 passes through neither Little Rock nor Fort Smith)
I-55: Memphis, Blytheville
I-540: Fort Smith, Fayetteville
I-530: Little Rock, Pine Bluff