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Vermont state route signing practices

Started by hbelkins, November 18, 2011, 04:12:26 PM

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hbelkins

Can someone explain why VT 140 is signed thusly:



Why would only one half of the VT 140 signage be current?
Government would be tolerable if not for politicians and bureaucrats.


xcellntbuy

Knowing the thrift of Vermonters, the westbound VT 140 sign looks perfectly fine and serviceable.  Perhaps only the eastbound signage was damaged and appropriately replaced. :hmmm:

froggie

VT 140 is town-maintained to the west of US 7.  Standard practice is that Vermont routes which are VTrans-maintained get the green shield, while town-maintained routes get the circle shield.

hbelkins

Which would explain VT 53 and VT F-5.

There's a mix of new- and old-style at VT 15 and VT 215, including a couple of very old circle 15 shields.
Government would be tolerable if not for politicians and bureaucrats.

shadyjay

A little more info:

Up until the 1990s, the black and white circle shield was utilized for all state-route numbered highways, regardless of maintenance.  The green oval shield was then introduced and applied to all state-maintained routes, while those town-maintained kept the black/white circle. 

Many state-maintained routes revert to town maintenance when entering downtown districts, as noted with a "STATE HIGHWAY BEGINS / THOROFARE BEGINS HERE" sign, but retain green oval signage. 

Traveling along I-91 from Brattleboro up to White River Junction, you'll find a few cases of the black/white circle shield on BGSs (Exits 2,3,6,7) leading to state-maintained roads.  Originally all state route markers on BGSs were the black/white circles but as signs have been replaced, the shields mostly went green.  Exceptions:  Exit 5-NB has a circle 121 mixed in with an oval 123.  Reason:  VT 121 is state-maintained.  VT 123 is state-maintained and is less than a mile long but leads to NH 123. 

On I-89, Exit 2 signage has an older VT 132 shield mixed in with a new VT 14 shield.  VT 132 is town-maintained, while VT 14 is state-maintained.  However, after one exits, the ramp signage has green VT 132 shields. 

I am really surprised that VT 65 is state-maintained.  That's the route that used to traverse the Brookfield Floating Bridge.  Most of this road is not paved.  Of course with the floating bridge closed to vehicle traffic, the route is severed. 

hbelkins

What is the deal with these:



What does Vermont define as a "Through Way" and how does it differ from a regular highway?
Government would be tolerable if not for politicians and bureaucrats.

froggie

Through Way and State Highway are basically synonymous.  The signs mark where maintenance responsibility reverts back to VTrans.

hbelkins

I saw some redundant signage. "Through Way Ends Here" and "State Highway Ends" or "Through Way Begins Here" and "State Highway Begins."
Government would be tolerable if not for politicians and bureaucrats.

shadyjay

Quote from: hbelkins on November 20, 2011, 10:54:28 AM
What is the deal with these:



What does Vermont define as a "Through Way" and how does it differ from a regular highway?

That's what I meant in my post by "THOROUGHFARE BEGINS HERE" - just couldn't think of the exact wording.  I don't leave this mountain much this time of the year.



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