use of a yellow toll plate (M4-15) for a road that's not immediately toll

[NE2]

Does the MUTCD say anything about this (mis)use of the M4-15? For example, here: http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=25.783517,-80.288322&spn=0.008598,0.016512&gl=us&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=25.78344,-80.288357&panoid=LjYZlUWRoYgoYbfyXXZ3dg&cbp=12,341.22,,2,-5.91
There is no toll if you enter here and get off at SR 826.

[formulanone]

Correct, there is no toll, if you get off at the 826, but if you continue west towards the Homestead Extension or further, there's a toll.

Better to be signed as a warning, than none at all, in my opinion.

[mightyace]

I agree.  Trying to sign "Oh it's free to 826, then toll" would be hard to do simply.  IMHO

[NE2]

I agree.  Trying to sign "Oh it's free to 826, then toll" would be hard to do simply.  IMHO

That's why you clearly sign LAST EXIT BEFORE TOLL on the mainline.

[mightyace]

^^^

Well,I've never been to Miami, so I wouldn't know that.


I did have an idea though.  Since Florida uses different shields for free and toll, how about a SR-836 West with a TO TOLL 836?

[Alps]

The MUTCD doesn't really say when to use/not use TOLL besides the obvious cases. The NJTA is taking it to mean that the Garden State Parkway is generally a toll road, so every entrance will be signed TOLL, even along the 12 free miles from exits 129-141. (In a sense, this lets them get away with not signing LAST EXIT BEFORE TOLL all the time on a highway with 11 tolls and even more ramp tolls.) I believe this may even end up applying to entrances with US 9 along for the ride in Toms River, though I might try to put up more of a fight about that on the basis that the FHWA may actually give a crap in that case. But maybe not, who knows.

[KEK Inc.]

I have never seen those cobrahead [streetlights] in the United States.  Looks like a Chinese design. 

[realjd]

^^^

Well,I've never been to Miami, so I wouldn't know that.


I did have an idea though.  Since Florida uses different shields for free and toll, how about a SR-836 West with a TO TOLL 836?

Seems overly complicated. Just because there is a free movement along a toll road doesn't mean that it isn't still a toll road.

[PurdueBill]

Maybe whatever information they have (traffic counts or otherwise) shows that most of those who get on there are heading for where it involves a toll, so best to put it up there.  If there are people unfamiliar with the area or who don't want to pay the toll (like rental cars where the rental company charges $2.50 a day fee in addition to any tolls if you incur just one toll in your whole rental), they would probably appreciate knowing then instead of getting on the road only to see "last exit before toll" at the next exit.