Roads that have Old in its name, but no newer name

Started by roadman65, June 22, 2012, 07:04:44 PM

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mightyace

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Quote from: HighwayMaster on June 30, 2012, 11:40:53 AM
Old Hickory Boulevard that used to loop around Nashville.

I don't think it's every completely looped around Nashville.  On the east side, it was broken when Percy Priest Lake was formed.  AFAIK, it never linked up across the Cumberland.

Now, in this case, "Old Hickory" comes from nickname of President Andrew Jackson as the road passes close to his onetime home, The Hermitage, on the east side of Nashville.

Even though it is not a 100% loop, it is still enough of one that all three interstates in town, (24, 40, 65) have TWO Old Hickory Blvd. exits!  Or, SIX Old Hickory Blvd. exits in total.

EDIT:
On a different vein, the road that my parents' house is on is one that used to have a "NEW" counterpart, but no longer.  The road is Old Berwick Rd. which is the previous (original?) alignment of US 11 between Bloomsburg and Berwick.  Around 1960 or 1961 a newer 3-4 lane concrete highway was built as was dubbed "New Berwick Highway".  Somewhere in the last 10-15 years it was renamed to Columbia Blvd.  (Anyway, the idea of a 40-50 year old highway being "new" seems strange to me anyway.)
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Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on June 24, 2012, 12:03:38 AM
When the Corp of Engineers and City of Columbus constructed Alum Creek Reservoir, they rerouted Old State Rd (Del. CR 10) to the left of the reservoir and merged it into the pre-existing Lackey Rd (between Cheshire and Berlin Station Rds) and continued it north to US 36/Oh 37.
So, South Lackey Old State Rd is newer than Old State Rd.

And Old State Rd is named as such by Delaware County Engineers because the Worthington-New Haven route was among the first of the post roads in Ohio

We return to Old State Road (Central Ohio version) with a newspaper story about said road
http://galionlive.com/2012/05/12/traveling-the-old-state-road/
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DandyDan

In the southeastern part of Fremont, Nebraska, they have Old Highway 8 without there being a new highway 8, or even a highway 8, which in Nebraska is in a completely different part of the state.  Then again, US 275 superceded that long ago.
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empirestate

Southeast of Ithaca, NY there's Old Seventy-Six Road, but no Seventy-Six Road (however, the "Old" is sometimes dropped from this road's name). I don't recall its history, but I believe Seventy-Six was a locale, perhaps named after a stage route, so it turns out to be a typical naming pattern.

formulanone

Quote from: DandyDan on July 03, 2012, 02:12:40 AM
In the southeastern part of Fremont, Nebraska, they have Old Highway 8 without there being a new highway 8, or even a highway 8, which in Nebraska is in a completely different part of the state.  Then again, US 275 superceded that long ago.

Kind of like Old State Road 8 in south-central Florida; it was State Road 8 before the 1945 Renumbering. The "new" State Road 8 is a secret route number for I-10 throughout Florida, hundreds of miles away, but not labeled as such.  (Although I would like to be proven wrong.)

ljwestmcsd

I grew up near "Old San Francisco Road" in Sunnyvale, CA. There was no "New San Francisco Road."

1995hoo

Old Courthouse Road near Tysons Corner, Virginia, does not have a Courthouse Road anywhere nearby. Nor is there a courthouse anywhere in the area (it's located in an exclave inside Fairfax City). A clue to the name's origin comes from an intersecting road–Gallows Road. Apparently once upon a time both a courthouse and a gallows were located somewhere in the Tysons area–which used to contain the highest point in Fairfax County until the landfill surpassed it–and "Old Courthouse Road" literally refers to the "old courthouse." From what I've read, though, that particular courthouse was not the place where criminals were sentenced to death–apparently that occurred elsewhere and then they were transported down Gallows Road to be hanged.
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Quillz

A gated community not far from where I live has "Old Butterscotch Road" but there is no "Butterscotch Road" to be found.

mcdonaat

Plenty to name! One is called Old Jena Road, which at the other end is Old Harrisonburg Road. There is no New of either one.

Also have Old State Road, but no new state road. Old Gentilly Road, but the new Gentilly Road is only known as Old US 90.

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Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on June 24, 2012, 12:03:38 AM

And Old State Rd is named as such by Delaware County Engineers because the Worthington-New Haven route was among the first of the post roads in Ohio

Completely off topic, but I love these stories.  I felt like a museum guide trying to explain High Free Pike to my wife when we moved back to Ohio.

empirestate

Quote from: mcdonaat on July 17, 2012, 07:47:18 PM
Also have Old State Road, but no new state road.

No state-numbered route of any kind in the area? That's fairly rare, but not unheard of. There's an Old State Road in Allegany and Livingston Counties in New York, which predates the numbered system; today it's not even a county highway, but on the map it draws a distinctively straight line between Angelica and Nunda. What's fun is that, as a gravel road, it probably more closely resembles the earliest state highways than anything still on the state system today.

TheStranger

Quote from: ljwestmcsd on July 16, 2012, 08:35:06 PM
I grew up near "Old San Francisco Road" in Sunnyvale, CA. There was no "New San Francisco Road."


Looking at its proximity to Route 82...was this an old alignment (possibly pre-US 101) of El Camino Real?

That reminds me, in Rancho Cordova, there's an "Old Placerville Road" that does not appear at all to be a former US 50 alignment...not sure if it was some old stage road that was paved as the Folsom Boulevard routing for US 50/Lincoln Highway ended up being favored over time.
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In Newbury Park, California, there is an Old Conejo (Co-NAY-ho--Spanish for "rabbit") Road. It used to be the main highway (US 101) before the freeway was built in the 1960s. The Conejo Grade where the freeway drops down to the Oxnard Plain is just west of Newbury Park.
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At what age do you tell a highway that it's been adopted?

cjk374

US 80 is referred to as "Old 80" by alot of people around here.  But, there is no "New 80"....however, they are distinguishing it from "New" I-20...built between 1959 and 1975.
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hbelkins

Just remembered this one. Locals refer to the KY 11/KY 15 concurrency through Powell County as "Old 15" even though there is not a new routing of KY 15. They say this because the Mountain Parkway parallels KY 15 through Powell County.
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empirestate

Slightly different twist: there is an Old Nichols Road on Long Island, and the nearby Suffolk CR 97, officially called Nicolls Road (note spelling difference), is often referred to by locals as "New Nicolls Road" to distinguish it from the old. The two roads are pretty near each other, but there isn't a direct naming correlation as far as I can tell. CR 97 isn't a newer routing of Old Nichols Road.

dfnva

I grew up off of Old Keene Mill Rd (SR-644) in Springfield, VA, which is emblematic of this situation. There is no "Keene Mill Rd" or "New Keene Mill Rd." It's the original road in its original form, save for widening of the road. People usually call it Keene Mill Rd, though. At one time, there was one street sign that said "Keene Mill Rd" (without the "Old") at the JCT with Rolling Rd (SR-638). It's long gone, taken down when Fairfax County started replacing the smaller green street signs (few of which still exist, except in some older subdivisions) with the bigger blue street signs, now ubiquitous, in the '90s.



DandyDan

There's a false one here in Omaha, or at least there used to be one.  I know there used to be a commercial for a business (probably a bar) on "Old L Street" west of 132nd Street.  But west of 132nd Street, there is no "Old L Street", it's just simply L Street.  132nd and L in Omaha (this would be the intersection of US 275/NE 92 and NE 50) is one of those bizarre intersections where all 4 roads which radiate from it have a different name (132nd St. goes north, Millard Blvd goes SW, Industrial Blvd goes NW and L St. goes east), and this business probably believes the L Street designation simply goes west along the route of US 275/NE 92, which in reality is NW along Industrial.
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sdmichael

Quote from: bulkyorled on June 25, 2012, 05:55:59 AM
Quote from: JustDrive on June 25, 2012, 12:42:05 AM
Quote from: bulkyorled on June 23, 2012, 11:58:41 AM
The Old Road in Santa Clarita, CA (and surrounding communities)
There isn't anything called "The New Road" or anything, oddly enough anyone who doesn't know the history about the street, it use to be called San Fernando Rd which continues on south after Sierra Hwy...
Not sure why they didnt just keep it SF Road

What is now called "Newhall Avenue" in Santa Clarita was once known as San Fernando Road.  The Old Road refers to Old U.S. Route 99.

The Old Road refers to Old US 99 & San Fernando Rd.
San Fernando Road which was changed into Newhall, Main and Railroad, east of SF Road/The Old Rd, was unrelated. The "other" SF Road now Newhall and etc IS in Santa Clarita but The Old Road doesn't technically enter Santa Clarita city boundaries, it just straddles the line on the Stevenson Ranch side

The Old Road, mostly the former alignment of US 99 through the Santa Clarita area, is one of those roads that Road is a part of the name, not a suffix. I sadly see "The Old Rd" many times there. It is the The Old Road, not The Old. The old sections run from Sierra Highway to Calgrove Blvd and from JNO Valencia Blvd (though even that has been heavily modified) to near Castaic.

jp the roadgeek

There's a couple of long stretches through Nassau and Suffolk County called Old Country Rd, but no Country or New Country Rd. to speak of.  My town also has an Old State Rd, which is a town road now.  There is a state route that runs parallel to this short stretch, but it is not called State Road or New State Rd.
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empirestate

Quote from: jp the roadgeek on May 15, 2013, 11:08:44 PM
My town also has an Old State Rd, which is a town road now.  There is a state route that runs parallel to this short stretch, but it is not called State Road or New State Rd.

Not today, perhaps, but I bet when Old State Road was originally built, it was called simply "the state road". So the "new" that goes with the "Old" in this case is the same road, rather than the more modern counterpart.

Pete from Boston

New Jersey has the famed Old Mine Road in Warren and Sussex counties.  It supposedly dates from the 1600s or so, and thus is pretty old.  I don't know if there was ever a New equivalent, but I think it's just called old because compared to pretty much everything else there it's old.

The High Plains Traveler

I lived on Old Highway 8 in Roseville, MN, which got the "old" designation after U.S. 8 was moved onto a new alignment built concurrently with the construction of I-35W. By the time I lived there, U.S. 8 had been truncated to north of the Twin Cities (its relocated alignment became MN-88) and so there is no longer a Highway 8 in this area.
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Coelacanth

Bloomington MN has Old Shakopee Road (which I just drove on the other day). There has never been a New Shakopee Road.

In New Brighton we have Old Highway 8 (that's the actual street name). Due to the truncation of US 8, there is no longer a (new) Highway 8 anywhere near this road.

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Quote from: Coelacanth on May 16, 2013, 02:08:39 PM
Bloomington MN has Old Shakopee Road (which I just drove on the other day). There has never been a New Shakopee Road.

In New Brighton we have Old Highway 8 (that's the actual street name). Due to the truncation of US 8, there is no longer a (new) Highway 8 anywhere near this road.

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Old Shakopee Road was the original 1920 Constitutional Routes 5 and 52, which came across the Bloomington Ferry Bridge from Shakopee then angled up toward Ft. Snelling. So, it was the Shakopee road for traffic coming from St. Paul and Minneapolis.
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