Why does California use its own US shield?

Started by KG909, September 15, 2014, 09:01:33 PM

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KG909

I'm not sure if this has been answered here and Google does not want to help on this. I'm just wondering why we use a different shield style.
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Zeffy

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KG909

Quote from: Zeffy on September 15, 2014, 09:04:11 PM
Because Caltrans.
Really that's it? I guess Caltrans is the rebel of the highway system. Not only different US route shield style but the only one with a green state route shield.
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myosh_tino

Quote from: KG909 on September 15, 2014, 09:12:35 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on September 15, 2014, 09:04:11 PM
Because Caltrans.
Really that's it? I guess Caltrans is the rebel of the highway system. Not only different US route shield style but the only one with a green state route shield.

Rebel?  Maybe.  But you could also classify Caltrans as the "Old Fart that resists change".  You have to understand, the US shield California uses today used to be the national standard.  When the national standard changed, California didn't go along.  This also applied to the Interstate shield.  What Caltrans uses now (save for those hideous angular shields) was the national spec in 1957.  When newer specs came out, California didn't adopt them.  As for the reason why California didn't adopt the new standards, you'll need to talk to someone at Caltrans.
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oscar

I love that California is the land of cutouts.  That includes the numbered county routes, which use the standard blue-and-gold pentagons, as well as the Interstate/US/state routes managed by Caltrans.
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KG909

Quote from: myosh_tino on September 15, 2014, 09:20:51 PM
Quote from: KG909 on September 15, 2014, 09:12:35 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on September 15, 2014, 09:04:11 PM
Because Caltrans.
Really that's it? I guess Caltrans is the rebel of the highway system. Not only different US route shield style but the only one with a green state route shield.

Rebel?  Maybe.  But you could also classify Caltrans as the "Old Fart that resists change".  You have to understand, the US shield California uses today used to be the national standard.  When the national standard changed, California didn't go along.  This also applied to the Interstate shield.  What Caltrans uses now (save for those hideous angular shields) was the national spec in 1957.  When newer specs came out, California didn't adopt them.  As for the reason why California didn't adopt the new standards, you'll need to talk to someone at Caltrans.
I heard it's that they're cheaper.
Quote from: oscar on September 15, 2014, 09:21:30 PM
I love that California is the land of cutouts.  That includes the numbered county routes, which use the standard blue-and-gold pentagons, as well as the Interstate/US/state routes managed by Caltrans.
I guess it is cool that we are unique with those shields.
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NE2

Wrong question.

Why did the other 47 states change?
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myosh_tino

Quote from: NE2 on September 15, 2014, 10:26:06 PM
Wrong question.

Why did the other 47 states change?

I was going to say "47?!?!? Am I missing something?" but then I realized Hawaii and Alaska don't have any US routes...  :-D
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Quote from: KG909 on September 15, 2014, 09:12:35 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on September 15, 2014, 09:04:11 PM
Because Caltrans.
Really that's it? I guess Caltrans is the rebel of the highway system. Not only different US route shield style but the only one with a green state route shield.
Vermont uses green shields


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KG909

Quote from: Arkansastravelguy on September 15, 2014, 11:36:07 PM

Quote from: KG909 on September 15, 2014, 09:12:35 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on September 15, 2014, 09:04:11 PM
Because Caltrans.
Really that's it? I guess Caltrans is the rebel of the highway system. Not only different US route shield style but the only one with a green state route shield.
Vermont uses green shields


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Oh yeah my bad forgot about Vermont, but I'm sure I'm not the only one.
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Arkansastravelguy

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KG909

Quote from: Arkansastravelguy on September 15, 2014, 11:37:39 PM
I remember because not only was I just there, I love the uniqueness of them


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Oh they are pretty nice looking, they're really unique.
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NE2

California probably uses green because laziness and making a simple button copy white outline on a guide sign look like a standalone shield (c.f. Connecticut).
pre-1945 Florida route log

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Road Hog

I remember the color US shields in Florida.

KG909

Quote from: Road Hog on September 16, 2014, 12:26:24 AM
I remember the color US shields in Florida.
Ahh yes they we're nice, also heard Arizona had them.
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national highway 1

Quote from: Arkansastravelguy on September 15, 2014, 11:36:07 PM

Quote from: KG909 on September 15, 2014, 09:12:35 PM
Quote from: Zeffy on September 15, 2014, 09:04:11 PM
Because Caltrans.
Really that's it? I guess Caltrans is the rebel of the highway system. Not only different US route shield style but the only one with a green state route shield.
Vermont uses green shields
So does South Dakota.
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emory

Caltrans loves the old US shield yet despises the continued existence of US routes.

formulanone


Quote from: NE2 on September 15, 2014, 10:26:06 PM
Wrong question.

Why did the other 47 states change?

Florida only gave in 21 years ago...

US71

Quote from: NE2 on September 15, 2014, 10:26:06 PM
Wrong question.

Why did the other 47 states change?

Because they were supposed to be phased out.
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Occidental Tourist

Quote from: NE2 on September 15, 2014, 11:48:29 PM
California probably uses green because laziness and making a simple button copy white outline on a guide sign look like a standalone shield (c.f. Connecticut).

California used to value things other than expediency.

kkt

Quote from: NE2 on September 15, 2014, 11:48:29 PM
California probably uses green because laziness and making a simple button copy white outline on a guide sign look like a standalone shield (c.f. Connecticut).

California claims white on green is more legible than black on white or white on black.

sdmichael

There were studies done in the late 1950's regarding sign colors and styles. Perhaps having the shield in green isn't just "because".

bing101

Quote from: KG909 on September 15, 2014, 09:01:33 PM
I'm not sure if this has been answered here and Google does not want to help on this. I'm just wondering why we use a different shield style.


Because its a nice shield.

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Honestly, the new design that other states adopt look cheap. 

It just looks so good!






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US71

Quote from: sdmichael on September 16, 2014, 12:38:31 PM
There were studies done in the late 1950's regarding sign colors and styles. Perhaps having the shield in green isn't just "because".

Yup. Green exit signs with white letters trumped Blue/White and Black/White.
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