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What's the oldest turnpike service plaza still in use?

Started by GCrites, January 05, 2015, 07:17:51 PM

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GCrites

I'm older than every single turnpike service plaza that I've been in except for ones that have already been demolished. What is the oldest one still in use? And for bonus points, which have gone longest without major renovations i.e. not just switching food vendors?


cl94

I can tell you that it's not in New York. All of ours were rebuilt in the late 80s, 90s, and early 2000s (most recently Angola, IIRC). I think that, by this point, all of Ontario's and Ohio's have been rebuilt or are in the process of being rebuilt.
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GCrites

By the way the reasons I put this is the pictures section is because thread is useless without pix!

1995hoo

I'd presume probably one of the ones on the original segment of the Pennsylvania Turnpike, perhaps Midway?
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jeffandnicole

Quote from: 1995hoo on January 05, 2015, 08:30:32 PM
I'd presume probably one of the ones on the original segment of the Pennsylvania Turnpike, perhaps Midway?

South Midway was renovated several years back.  North Midway is currently closed for a rehab.

1995hoo

Quote from: jeffandnicole on January 05, 2015, 08:34:11 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on January 05, 2015, 08:30:32 PM
I'd presume probably one of the ones on the original segment of the Pennsylvania Turnpike, perhaps Midway?

South Midway was renovated several years back.  North Midway is currently closed for a rehab.

But he also said oldest one still in use. I interpreted that as being a separate question from the issue of not having major renovations.
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lepidopteran

On the NJTP, while I'm pretty sure most if not all of the main plaza buildings were rebuilt or extensively renovated, some still have separate "snack bar" structures that don't seem to have changed much since they were built.  In fact, one of them, at least until recently, still had the words "Snack Bar" in the original Howard Johnson's neon.  Can anyone confirm?

And for an example that doesn't count, one of the EB plazas on the PATP was recently rebuilt, but with the exterior structure preserved, complete with the dormer windows.

SectorZ

I know a lot of the Mass Pike ones have been redone a few times, but there is one on 128 north (east) in Beverly that looks incredibly old.

SectorZ

Of course I guess I missed the concept of the thread being a turnpike service plaza...

GCrites

I suppose non-turnpike service plazas are in play too, but they cannot be just gas stations with a McDs in them or be 100% privately-owned. I just didn't think that there were very many non-TPK ones.

Brandon

The Indiana Toll Road still has a snack bar in use, but it is not used for its original intended purpose.  The state police post at MM 72 (near US-31) was a snack bar until the 1970s.  The building remains, but the state police use it for their HQ now.

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PHLBOS

Quote from: Cjzani on January 05, 2015, 10:46:17 PM
I know a lot of the Mass Pike ones have been redone a few times, but there is one on 128 north (east) in Beverly that looks incredibly old.
The building that houses a Burger King & Subway at the Beverly Plaza was probably a HoJos in its former life.
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Beeper1

All of the ones in CT have been totally rebuilt within the last couple years or a are currently closed for renovations.

All of the ones in Maine were rebuilt within the last 5-6 years.

The plaza in Beverly on MA-128 may still be the original.  I think the service areas on MA-24 in Bridgewater are also around the same age as the Beverly one. 

In NJ, the Vince is still in the original building, though altered many times over the years.   Some of the small service areas on the northern stretch of the GSP certainly seem old enough to be original.

Aren't there some very old, small service areas on the Turner Tpk in Oklahoma that are still largely original?

PHLBOS

Quote from: Beeper1 on January 06, 2015, 10:23:51 AMThe plaza in Beverly on MA-128 may still be the original.  I think the service areas on MA-24 in Bridgewater are also around the same age as the Beverly one.
I believe that the ones along MA 24 were redone around the same time that the I-495 cloverleaf was constructed (early 1980s).
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thenetwork

I believe the last of the original service plazas on the Ohio Turnpike has recently been demolished -- the ones on the I-76 stretch near Youngstown.  I believe all the others have been rebuilt from the ground up already.

cpzilliacus

What about the Vince Lombardi service plaza near the north end of the New Jersey Turnpike?

I got the impression (perhaps incorrect) that this plaza was rather old and worn, unlike most of the rest of the Turnpike plazas, which seem reasonably current.

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roadman

Quote from: PHLBOS on January 06, 2015, 09:51:39 AM
Quote from: Cjzani on January 05, 2015, 10:46:17 PM
I know a lot of the Mass Pike ones have been redone a few times, but there is one on 128 north (east) in Beverly that looks incredibly old.
The building that houses a Burger King & Subway at the Beverly Plaza was probably a HoJos in its former life.
Correct.  All the service plazas in Massachusetts, including the ones on the Mass. Pike, were originally HoJos.  However, the MA 128 one in Beverly is the only plaza that hasn't had significant changes to the original building when ownership changed.
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Brandon

Quote from: thenetwork on January 06, 2015, 11:08:51 AM
I believe the last of the original service plazas on the Ohio Turnpike has recently been demolished -- the ones on the I-76 stretch near Youngstown.  I believe all the others have been rebuilt from the ground up already.

All except the second set between the Indiana state line and Toledo.  Those are just empty paved areas currently.

All of the ISTHA ones were rebuilt from the girders up back in 2004 with the exception of the DeKalb Oasis.  That one was just renovated (in 2004 instead of rebuilt) and is now the oldest oasis building on the ISTHA system (dating from 1975).
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Quote from: GCrites80s on January 05, 2015, 10:52:53 PM
I suppose non-turnpike service plazas are in play too, but they cannot be just gas stations with a McDs in them or be 100% privately-owned. I just didn't think that there were very many non-TPK ones.

I guess this disqualifies the little ones on the Merritt Parkway, whose recently-renovated buildings are still very old.

The buildings on the Connecticut Turnpike were replaced recently, but does anyone remember if their predecessors were just renovated when converted to McDonald's in the 1980s, or replaced from the ground up?

GCrites

Quote from: thenetwork on January 06, 2015, 11:08:51 AM
I believe the last of the original service plazas on the Ohio Turnpike has recently been demolished -- the ones on the I-76 stretch near Youngstown.  I believe all the others have been rebuilt from the ground up already.

Looks like the new facility was already complete when the Google car drove by in September '14. The 2008 drive-by shows a vastly different structure.

Beeper1

Quote from: Pete from Boston on January 06, 2015, 12:35:17 PM

Quote from: GCrites80s on January 05, 2015, 10:52:53 PM
I suppose non-turnpike service plazas are in play too, but they cannot be just gas stations with a McDs in them or be 100% privately-owned. I just didn't think that there were very many non-TPK ones.

I guess this disqualifies the little ones on the Merritt Parkway, whose recently-renovated buildings are still very old.

The buildings on the Connecticut Turnpike were replaced recently, but does anyone remember if their predecessors were just renovated when converted to McDonald's in the 1980s, or replaced from the ground up?

The interiors were just renovated.  The structures themselves were the originals from 1957.

okroads

Quote from: Beeper1 on January 06, 2015, 10:23:51 AM
Aren't there some very old, small service areas on the Turner Tpk in Oklahoma that are still largely original?

Two service plazas on the Turner have been demolished in recent years and will not be rebuilt: WB at Wellston http://goo.gl/maps/oxyB2 and EB at Bristow http://goo.gl/maps/Gfy6C. There is a gas station-only service area still open on WB near Bristow. http://goo.gl/maps/qzNSQ

The only other service plaza remaining on the Turner Turnpike is near Stroud. http://goo.gl/maps/j5ks4

okroads

The Indian Nation Turnpike has 3 service areas: 2 of which are quite old and the other just opened in McAlester last month.

Antlers: http://goo.gl/maps/uQSjt
Dustin: http://goo.gl/maps/Mq3rc
McAlester (when construction was in progress on the now-southbound lanes): http://goo.gl/maps/Nb4uj

Brandon

Quote from: okroads on January 06, 2015, 04:51:01 PM
Quote from: Beeper1 on January 06, 2015, 10:23:51 AM
Aren't there some very old, small service areas on the Turner Tpk in Oklahoma that are still largely original?

Two service plazas on the Turner have been demolished in recent years and will not be rebuilt: WB at Wellston http://goo.gl/maps/oxyB2 and EB at Bristow http://goo.gl/maps/Gfy6C. There is a gas station-only service area still open on WB near Bristow. http://goo.gl/maps/qzNSQ

The only other service plaza remaining on the Turner Turnpike is near Stroud. http://goo.gl/maps/j5ks4

The Oklahoma and Kansas ones struck me as a bit strange.  I'm used to having one main building for the food and shop with an outbuilding for fuel like in Illinois, Indiana, or Ohio.  Those in Oklahoma and Kansas looked like each vendor built their own on the site.
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sbeaver44

Quote from: GCrites80s on January 06, 2015, 12:37:58 PM
Quote from: thenetwork on January 06, 2015, 11:08:51 AM
I believe the last of the original service plazas on the Ohio Turnpike has recently been demolished -- the ones on the I-76 stretch near Youngstown.  I believe all the others have been rebuilt from the ground up already.
Looks like the new facility was already complete when the Google car drove by in September '14. The 2008 drive-by shows a vastly different structure.
The Glacier Hills (EB) and Mahoning Valley (WB) Service Plazas opened in their current form on May 22, 2013.  This makes sense as they were empty lots when I passed by in November 2012 but I stopped there for lunch in June 2013.

Source: http://www.vindy.com/news/2013/may/04/relief-ahead-new-turnpike-plazas-to-open/





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