Two roads in same concurrency signed via different ways

[roadman65]

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.679879,-75.590774,3a,75y,33.29h,88.79t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1smnOMHfMYsk6nY9RJGjK2fQ!2e0

I was noticing this piece here from Northbound US 13 and Eastbound US 40 near Wilmington Manor, DE.  It is the northern beginning of US 202 which a short distance after its start it becomes concurrent with I-95, which incidentally is signed here as well, but via another exit 1 mile further.

I thought this was always interesting seeing this sign for many years.  I have no problem with it, although SB I-95 could be directed via NB DE 141 and US 202 as it is shorter than continuing one mile to return back a mile as the I-95 interchange with US 202 is a short hop from exiting here, but it really is not life threatening or that much hardship to demand its change nor worry about it.  Just think that it is fascinating that traveling US 202 North puts you on I-95 which is being signed a different way from this very same interchange.

Any other instances that this happens when two routes of one particular concurrency are signed from the same location via different other routes?

[NE2]

On US 2 west at US 1 in Houlton you can turn right for I-95 or turn left and hop on I-95 the wrong way south of Boston.

Silly questions beget silly answers.

[PHLBOS]

FWIW, that I-95/US 202 concurrency has only been around since the 1980s.

Even if the (useless/unecessary IMHO) I-95/US 202 concurrency didn't exist; one could still use DE 141 to get to I-95.

Personally, (I don't care either way, but for discussion purposes) I would place sign US 202/DE 141 North with a supplemental TO SOUTH 95 legend and US 13 North/US 40 East with a supplemental TO NORTH 95 legend per your earlier comment.

[Alps]

I have absolutely no idea what the original post is trying to state, whatsoever. Can someone please English it?

[kphoger]

I have absolutely no idea what the original post is trying to state, whatsoever. Can someone please English it?

+1

[spooky]

I have absolutely no idea what the original post is trying to state, whatsoever. Can someone please English it?

Sometimes signs direct you onto a route with greater capacity rather than the shortest or most direct route words words words same thing repeated again but in different words.

[TEG24601]

Oh.  I read it as concurrencies with opposite directions listed.  Like a N/S concurrency, or E/W concurrency.

[freebrickproductions]

Oh.  I read it as concurrencies with opposite directions listed.  Like a N/S concurrency, or E/W concurrency.

Like the AL 20/US 72 concurrency over between Muscle Shoals and Florence?

[roadman65]

No it is pretty self explanatory.  US 202 and I-95 are concurrent from a point north of its start from US 13.  Yet DelDOT does not sign the other route of the concurrency at the starting point of the other route, but via another way.

No I am not debating the way DelDOT did it as I am just wondering where else there is signing practicing like this one.

Sorry guys I cannot explain things a little better as I am not that good at writing.  Alps you need to calm down in your tone.  I know you do not like me nor the way I write, but if you give a free pass to a college buddy of yours for some issues with his state then you should others as well. 

Believe me I wish I could write better, and I try each day to learn a little more and feel that I have been making progress.  Some elders said to me once that life is rough for some, but that may mean that they are different for reasons yet that none of can see yet, but in the end it will be revealed.  Now I go by them wise words told to me especially in tough times.

Believe me it bugs me that I have an awesome point to make, but have a hard time putting them into words.

[vtk]

I think what roadman is trying to say might become more clear after a close inspection of his example, but I don't have the patience to investigate it. I think maybe it has something to do with signage treating two routes as if they are separate roads, when actually they are the same road.

[NE2]

You're at the junction of 13 and 202. If you follow 202, you reach an overlap with 95. But 95 is instead signed via 13. Yeah, it's nothing strange if using 13 is the better way to go.

[jeffandnicole]

I know what he's saying, as I'm familiar with the route.

Basically, you're on US 13/40 in Delaware.  You can take an exit for 141/202, follow 202 around the infamous left to left cloverleaf onto I-95, and then take 95/202 North.

The sign is telling you, if you want to access 95, to continue on 13/40 to the 295 exit, then take 295 to 95/202. 

Confusing?  Yes.  I'll rewrite it without using 202:

Option A: 13/40 to 141 to 95

Option B: 13/40 to 295 to 95.

I think the difference is 13/40, 295 and 95 is made for faster and longer distance travelling, whereas 141 is made for more local traffic. 

[bzakharin]

The closest I can come up with is this: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.866908,-74.03026,3a,75y,92.75h,87.16t/data=!3m5!1e1!3m3!1sFPw8Z0OP7qNQGEviOY9Afw!2e0!5s20141001T000000
where "TO US-46" is signed together with I-95 South despite the fact that US-46 *East* is actually ahead together with I-95 North. This distinction is academic, however, since US-46 continues to multiplex with I-95 before ending at the NY state line

[hbelkins]

I think KYTC should put a "To East US 460" trailblazer on KY 114 at the point where eastbound US 460 intersects eastbound KY 114 at Salyersville. 

[ajlynch91]

I've never understood why US-46 continues up until the state line, which would literally be in the middle of the George Washington Bridge. Why not just end it at I-95 since it multiplexes with US 1/9 after that?


Of course, I've never understood why I-276 ends at a state line either.

[Pete from Boston]

I've never understood why US-46 continues up until the state line, which would literally be in the middle of the George Washington Bridge. Why not just end it at I-95 since it multiplexes with US 1/9 after that?

It doesn't meet 1-9 until the latter comes in from Broad Ave. in Palisades Park, an overpassing street.  It would be odd to have 46 end at an arbitrary point on a highway that continues on, and it would be odd to have a nameless stretch of Not-46 between 46 and 1-9.

I would instead end it at Fletcher Ave. in Fort Lee, which is where I thought it ended already. 

In any case, it doesn't matter that much.  It's not like they're signing 46 on the bridge.

[lordsutch]

An odd case: US 460 technically follows I-81's C/D road for about a mile, and it is actually signed that way at the gore... but the shorter route to follow, using US 11 and US 460 Business instead, is actually the one signed on the overhead BGS.

https://www.google.com/maps/@37.137801,-80.355161,3a,75y,255.82h,90.89t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1ssfOqA2oWO2hh9sdfiGP5fw!2e0

Southbound, though, the logic is not reciprocated: https://www.google.com/maps/@37.136531,-80.378193,3a,75y,123.54h,93.68t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1si6Y6FMSbyRXswFQLAohlIg!2e0

Here's a plausible example of something similar: I-10 and I-35 are multiplexed; I-10 is signed for the lower level, while I-35 is signed for the upper level, but both levels reunite after the split, so you can take either level for either route.

https://www.google.com/maps/@29.40649,-98.510045,3a,75y,21.98h,89.44t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1siqVr__O9M0amaY54b-UG_Q!2e0

[SidS1045]

I have absolutely no idea what the original post is trying to state, whatsoever. Can someone please English it?

"English" is now a verb?

[NE2]

It got verbed.

[kphoger]

https://bellsiebooks.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/verbing_weirds_language.gif

[Zeffy]

https://bellsiebooks.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/verbing_weirds_language.gif

I knew I remembered something vaguely similar to what NE2 said - and you found it! Damn do I love Calvin and Hobbes...

[PHLBOS]

https://bellsiebooks.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/verbing_weirds_language.gif

I knew I remembered something vaguely similar to what NE2 said - and you found it! Damn do I love Calvin and Hobbes...

Going back even before Calvin & Hobbes. 

Sherman, set the WABAC Machine to 1974 (Note: 1:03)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=US8mGU1MzYw