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Interstates and U.S. routes entering Canada and Mexico because 'Murrica

Started by bandit957, May 14, 2015, 05:12:22 PM

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bandit957

Has there ever been an instance where a U.S. route or Interstate has crossed the border and maintained its designation there? I don't mean just the same number. I mean the same system - for instance, remaining a U.S. route on Canadian or Mexican soil.

I thought someone said US 2 used to be designated through Canada, though I don't remember ever seeing this on any map.

Conversely, have any other countries' route systems entered the U.S.?
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cbeach40

Quote from: bandit957 on May 14, 2015, 05:12:22 PM
I thought someone said US 2 used to be designated through Canada, though I don't remember ever seeing this on any map.

That's because whomever said that had no clue about what they were saying.
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US 41

The closest thing to this is MX 57 turning into US 57, US 75 turning into MB 75, US 67 turning into CHIH 67,US 83 turning into MB 83, I-95 turning into NB 95, and US 97 turning into BC 97. I probably missed a few others too. Why would any US highways be signed in other countries though?  :confused:
Visited States and Provinces:
USA (48)= All of Lower 48
Canada (9)= AB, BC, MB, NB, NS, ON, PEI, QC, SK
Mexico (9)= BCN, BCS, CHIH, COAH, DGO, NL, SON, SIN, TAM

empirestate

Quote from: US 41 on May 14, 2015, 07:37:57 PMWhy would any US highways be signed in other countries though?  :confused:

Same reason NY 17 is signed in Pennsylvania.

SignGeek101

Quote from: bandit957 on May 14, 2015, 05:12:22 PM
I thought someone said US 2 used to be designated through Canada, though I don't remember ever seeing this on any map.

http://goo.gl/maps/qtmkJ  :bigass:

Yes, I know it's a trunk route, and not a US highway

Does QC 247 Count? Also named as Canusa Street or something like that.

http://goo.gl/maps/VyhHh

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canusa_Street


US 41

Quote from: empirestate on May 14, 2015, 07:41:17 PM
Quote from: US 41 on May 14, 2015, 07:37:57 PMWhy would any US highways be signed in other countries though?  :confused:

Same reason NY 17 is signed in Pennsylvania.

Well, you got me there.  :D  This might be a dumb question, but out of curiosity does NY take care of that tiny part of NY 17 that enters Pennsylvania or does PA take care of it? The pavement doesn't appear to change at either one of the state borders.
Visited States and Provinces:
USA (48)= All of Lower 48
Canada (9)= AB, BC, MB, NB, NS, ON, PEI, QC, SK
Mexico (9)= BCN, BCS, CHIH, COAH, DGO, NL, SON, SIN, TAM

NE2

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MA 22,35,40,53,79,107,109,126,138,141,151,159,203
NH 27, 78, 111A(E); CA 90; NY 9A, 366; GA 42, 140; FL A1A, 7; CT 32, 193, 320; VT 2A, 5A; PA 3, 51, 60, WA 202; QC 162, 165, 263; 🇬🇧A100, A3211, A3213, A3215, A4222; 🇫🇷95 D316

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SignGeek101

Quote from: empirestate on May 14, 2015, 07:41:17 PM
Quote from: US 41 on May 14, 2015, 07:37:57 PMWhy would any US highways be signed in other countries though?  :confused:

Same reason NY 17 is signed in Pennsylvania.

SK 17 is signed in Alberta.

http://goo.gl/maps/fS82q


Quote from: US 41 on May 14, 2015, 07:37:57 PMWhy would any US highways be signed in other countries though?  :confused:

US 37 is in Canada: http://goo.gl/maps/PXT2L

hotdogPi

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US 13, 50
MA 22,35,40,53,79,107,109,126,138,141,151,159,203
NH 27, 78, 111A(E); CA 90; NY 9A, 366; GA 42, 140; FL A1A, 7; CT 32, 193, 320; VT 2A, 5A; PA 3, 51, 60, WA 202; QC 162, 165, 263; 🇬🇧A100, A3211, A3213, A3215, A4222; 🇫🇷95 D316

Lowest untraveled: 36

briantroutman

Quote from: US 41 on May 14, 2015, 07:49:06 PM
This might be a dumb question, but out of curiosity does NY take care of that tiny part of NY 17 that enters Pennsylvania or does PA take care of it? The pavement doesn't appear to change at either one of the state borders.

The tiny stretch of NY 17/Future I-86 that crosses the PA state line near Sayre was constructed by NYSDOT, is maintained by them, and is patrolled by NY State Police. For all intents and purposes, it functions like a tiny enclave of NY within PA borders.

SignGeek101

Quote from: 1 on May 14, 2015, 08:25:50 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on May 14, 2015, 08:12:31 PM
Quote from: US 41 on May 14, 2015, 07:37:57 PMWhy would any US highways be signed in other countries though?  :confused:
US 37 is in Canada: http://goo.gl/maps/PXT2L

That should be "TO NY 37".

I know, I was just having fun. That error has been there for years. Not to mention, NY 37 goes East / West.

Quote from: 1 on May 14, 2015, 08:12:03 PM
Does QC 247 enter Vermont?

There are American signs there: http://goo.gl/maps/kQ54D

Voting for US Senator? http://goo.gl/maps/Rk23P


NE2

Quote from: briantroutman on May 14, 2015, 08:28:28 PM
The tiny stretch of NY 17/Future I-86 that crosses the PA state line near Sayre was constructed by NYSDOT, is maintained by them, and is patrolled by NY State Police. For all intents and purposes, it functions like a tiny enclave of NY within PA borders.
On the other hand, it was assigned a legislative route number by Pennsylvania. See page 139: ftp://ftp.dot.state.pa.us/public/Bureaus/BOMO/RM/RITS/LR%20Books/Bradford.pdf
pre-1945 Florida route log

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bandit957

Quote from: US 41 on May 14, 2015, 07:37:57 PM
Why would any US highways be signed in other countries though?  :confused:

Because there's a few places where a Kentucky state route enters a neighboring state. For instance, KY 17 goes a little bit into Ohio to include the Suspension Bridge.
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The High Plains Traveler

Quote from: US 41 on May 14, 2015, 07:37:57 PM
The closest thing to this is MX 57 turning into US 57, US 75 turning into MB 75, US 67 turning into CHIH 67,US 83 turning into MB 83, I-95 turning into NB 95, and US 97 turning into BC 97. I probably missed a few others too. Why would any US highways be signed in other countries though?  :confused:
Since the closure of the Noyes/Emerson border crossing between the U.S. and Canada, U.S. 75 dead ends and I-29 becomes MB-75. There was a MB-29 (very short) between I-29 at the border and the intersection with the road formerly posted as MB-75 that came through Noyes and Emerson, but no longer.
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Duke87

Quote from: empirestate on May 14, 2015, 07:41:17 PM
Quote from: US 41 on May 14, 2015, 07:37:57 PMWhy would any US highways be signed in other countries though?  :confused:

Same reason NY 17 is signed in Pennsylvania.

NY 17 briefly dips into PA simply because it was easier to build the road that way than to keep it all in New York. There are other examples of state highways doing this - see NY 120A in Connecticut, ME 113 in New Hampshire, AR 43 in Oklahoma.

But between two states this sort of thing can be arranged since there are no customs to worry about. If a similar dilemma were to arise involving an international border, you can bet that they would spend the extra money to keep the road on one side of the border since otherwise you'd have a customs problem.

That said, there ARE examples of minor streets dancing with the border and this producing some interesting consequences, such as the aforementioned Rue Canusa where the road is in Quebec but houses along it are in Vermont.

There's also the aptly named "Border Road" directly east of the northern end of I-15, which runs right down the middle of the no-touching zone and has streets ending on it from both Alberta and Montana. No customs booths along it but I'm sure border patrol keeps an eye on it and anyone who doesn't leave to the same side they came from will get nabbed. 
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jp the roadgeek

BBefore Québec renumbered them, Autoroutes 15 and 55 were numbered 9 and 5, respectively, to match the US route at the crossing.  Also looks like Route 235 keeps its same number in Québec and Vermont, as do routes 139, 243, 147 (all 1/8 mi. in VT), and 141 (about a 1/2 mi. in VT)
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national highway 1

Quote from: US 41 on May 14, 2015, 07:37:57 PM
The closest thing to this is MX 57 turning into US 57, US 75 turning into MB 75, US 67 turning into CHIH 67,US 83 turning into MB 83, I-95 turning into NB 95, and US 97 turning into BC 97. I probably missed a few others too. Why would any US highways be signed in other countries though?  :confused:
BC 93 is a northern continuation of US 93, BC 95 is a continuation of US 95 and BC 395 is a continuation of US 395. BC 99 is a remnant continuation of the now decommissioned US 99.
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NE2

pre-1945 Florida route log

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national highway 1

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codyg1985

ON 61 is a continuation of what used to be US 61 but is now MN 61.
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empirestate

Quote from: bandit957 on May 14, 2015, 05:12:22 PM
Has there ever been an instance where a U.S. route or Interstate has crossed the border and maintained its designation there? I don't mean just the same number. I mean the same system - for instance, remaining a U.S. route on Canadian or Mexican soil.

Quote from: national highway 1 on May 15, 2015, 02:34:16 AM
Quote from: US 41 on May 14, 2015, 07:37:57 PM
The closest thing to this is MX 57 turning into US 57, US 75 turning into MB 75, US 67 turning into CHIH 67,US 83 turning into MB 83, I-95 turning into NB 95, and US 97 turning into BC 97. I probably missed a few others too. Why would any US highways be signed in other countries though?  :confused:
BC 93 is a northern continuation of US 93, BC 95 is a continuation of US 95 and BC 395 is a continuation of US 395. BC 99 is a remnant continuation of the now decommissioned US 99.

Quote from: codyg1985 on May 15, 2015, 07:09:05 AM
ON 61 is a continuation of what used to be US 61 but is now MN 61.

So...that would be a "no", then?

CNGL-Leudimin

There's a recently completed (last year or two years ago, I don't recall exactly when) German road that passes through Swiss territory while retaining its German number.
Quote from: SignGeek101 on May 14, 2015, 07:45:31 PM
Does QC 247 Count? Also named as Canusa Street or something like that.

http://goo.gl/maps/VyhHh

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canusa_Street



Too bad the country is not displayed anymore. But https://www.google.es/maps/@45.00584,-72.137515,3a,75y,105.48h,89.41t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sPsUAhHxH9uk1LsAi96yqEg!2e0 :sombrero:.
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