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States without any kind of toll road or toll bridge

Started by iBallasticwolf2, May 20, 2015, 04:30:04 PM

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briantroutman

Quote from: formulanone on May 21, 2015, 12:51:37 PM
Not quite, there's the Tuscaloosa By-Pass, and the Montgomery "Expressway".

Interesting. Despite the names, both would seem to be, in effect, toll bridges.


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xotoxi

From Wikipedia:

QuoteAs of January 2014, the states of Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Hawaii, Iowa, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Mexico, North Dakota, Oregon, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Tennessee, Vermont, Wisconsin, and Wyoming have never had any toll roads, while Georgia,Connecticut, and Kentucky have had toll roads in the past, but have since removed the tolls on those roads. Connecticut, Kentucky, Michigan, and Tennessee currently have proposals to construct future toll roads

Big John

^^ Not sure if Georgia counts there as they did remove the tolls from GA 400, but now have HOT lanes on I-85.

iBallasticwolf2

Quote from: xotoxi on May 21, 2015, 03:38:13 PM
From Wikipedia:

QuoteAs of January 2014, the states of Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Hawaii, Iowa, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Mexico, North Dakota, Oregon, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Tennessee, Vermont, Wisconsin, and Wyoming have never had any toll roads, while Georgia,Connecticut, and Kentucky have had toll roads in the past, but have since removed the tolls on those roads. Connecticut, Kentucky, Michigan, and Tennessee currently have proposals to construct future toll roads

It only counts toll roads such as the New Jersey turnpike.

It does not count toll bridges or ferries
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Many (all?) of those states had toll roads in the 19th century.
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Quote from: NE2 on May 21, 2015, 06:07:41 PM
Many (all?) of those states had toll roads in the 19th century.

I guarantee you the states of Alaska, Hawaii, New Mexico, and Arizona did not have any toll roads in the 19th century. :bigass:
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Quote from: Duke87 on May 21, 2015, 11:54:44 PM
I guarantee you the states of Alaska, Hawaii, New Mexico, and Arizona did not have any toll roads in the 19th century.
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Quote from: NE2 on May 22, 2015, 12:14:41 AM
Quote from: Duke87 on May 21, 2015, 11:54:44 PM
I guarantee you the states of Alaska, Hawaii, New Mexico, and Arizona did not have any toll roads in the 19th century.

Anal fuck.


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Quote from: jakeroot on May 22, 2015, 06:26:01 PM
Quote from: NE2 on May 22, 2015, 12:14:41 AM
Quote from: Duke87 on May 21, 2015, 11:54:44 PM
I guarantee you the states of Alaska, Hawaii, New Mexico, and Arizona did not have any toll roads in the 19th century.

Anal fuck.



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Quote from: jakeroot on May 22, 2015, 06:26:01 PM
Quote from: NE2 on May 22, 2015, 12:14:41 AM
Quote from: Duke87 on May 21, 2015, 11:54:44 PM
I guarantee you the states of Alaska, Hawaii, New Mexico, and Arizona did not have any toll roads in the 19th century.

Anal fuck.



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Quote from: Duke87 on May 21, 2015, 11:54:44 PM
Quote from: NE2 on May 21, 2015, 06:07:41 PM
Many (all?) of those states had toll roads in the 19th century.

I guarantee you the states of Alaska, Hawaii, New Mexico, and Arizona did not have any toll roads in the 19th century. :bigass:
In the Territory of New Mexico was a toll gate on Toll Gate Canyon, which crosses into Colorado east of Raton Pass. Privately operated, of course.
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Quote from: hbelkins on May 23, 2015, 11:11:35 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on May 23, 2015, 11:08:18 PM
The Carolinas (North and South Carolina)

Nope to both.
wait. man i'm stupid. I'm really behind the times with the Carolinas (it's been about 9 years - I lived in North Carolina from when I was born in 2004 to 2006). Yep, forgot US 278 was a toll road and the Triangle Expressway...
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Quote from: Brandon on May 20, 2015, 04:59:39 PM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on May 20, 2015, 04:47:12 PM
How specific are you looking to be? Do high-occupancy toll lanes on an otherwise free road disqualify the road?

Wisconsin I believe does not have any tolled facilities of any kind.

I would think it to be any toll facility of any kind.

I believe Wisconsin is 100% toll facility free, even including ferries, with the sole exception of the SS Badger.  How one counts the SS Badger can be up for debate.

Technically, you would have to pay the ferry tolls for the SS Badger if you wish to "remain" on US-10 and not make a long land detour so I count it.

Maybe we should say "states w/o any toll facilities totally within their boundaries", and not "toll facilities which straddle two states".

In the latter, you could really be splitting hairs if the toll facilities are only taken/operated by only one of the two states.


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Quote from: Brandon on May 22, 2015, 07:58:41 PM
What'll that asshole think of next?

Somebody go back and get a shitload of dimes!

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Quote from: thenetwork on May 24, 2015, 12:32:50 AM
Quote from: Brandon on May 20, 2015, 04:59:39 PM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on May 20, 2015, 04:47:12 PM
How specific are you looking to be? Do high-occupancy toll lanes on an otherwise free road disqualify the road?

Wisconsin I believe does not have any tolled facilities of any kind.

I would think it to be any toll facility of any kind.

I believe Wisconsin is 100% toll facility free, even including ferries, with the sole exception of the SS Badger.  How one counts the SS Badger can be up for debate.

Technically, you would have to pay the ferry tolls for the SS Badger if you wish to "remain" on US-10 and not make a long land detour so I count it.

Maybe we should say "states w/o any toll facilities totally within their boundaries", and not "toll facilities which straddle two states".

In the latter, you could really be splitting hairs if the toll facilities are only taken/operated by only one of the two states.


We already pushed the OP into one specific filter - do we need to be that technical? :pan:
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Quote from: jakeroot on May 24, 2015, 06:45:48 PM
Quote from: Brandon on May 22, 2015, 07:58:41 PM
What'll that asshole think of next?

Somebody go back and get a shitload of dimes!

I'm glad they made that movie back when they did. It would never get made today.

True of a lot of Mel Brooks's ingenious movies.  There would be no "Producers" hit on Broadway now if he hadn't done it first. 

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Not counting ferries, Quebec was completely toll-free for 21 years, from May 1990 (when the toll was abolished on the Champlain Bridge) to May 2011 (the first Monday after Pont Olivier-Charbonneau opened to traffic).

sandiaman

Not so fast in writing off the western  states without any toll facilities.  Colorado  has  the 470 Toll road and an adjoining toll road to Broomfield. Utah has a one mile long toll road in Ogden, the Adams Avenue  Pkwy. 
  New Mexico  had the  Dunn Bridge in Taos County   which  at one time was tolled. On an old  map from the 40's, a pontoon style toll bridge went from Parker across the Colorado River into California.   Montana  had a toll bridge across the Missouri River and Idaho  had a toll bridge across the Snake River at Twin Falls.  This was shown on 1930's maps.

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Quote from: jeffandnicole on May 21, 2015, 08:07:08 AM
Quote from: iBallasticwolf2 on May 20, 2015, 04:54:31 PM
Well that is an interesting point whether HOT or express lane facilities count. I would say no, only tolled roads and bridges. No other types

?? 

I realize you can make up whatever criteria you want, but...

HOT/Express lanes are tolled roads.  The toll may not apply to everyone, but it's still a toll.

I think this is especially true when they're configured like the ones on the Beltway in Virginia where they have their own dedicated exits and entrances and no slip ramps to and from the general-purpose lanes. A Transurban spokesman once analogized it to an express Interstate built within the footprint of another Interstate. I thought that was a good way to think of it.
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OCGuy81

Does Arizona have any?  I don't remember seeing any type of toll facility driving there.


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Quote from: OCGuy81 on May 29, 2015, 01:16:35 PM
Does Arizona have any?  I don't remember seeing any type of toll facility driving there.

Maybe some roads in Native American lands? I'm not sure.
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