Highest speed limit for two lane road?

Started by J Route Z, July 02, 2015, 05:19:30 PM

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dfwmapper

Quote from: J N Winkler on July 06, 2015, 02:26:34 PM
Quote from: froggie on July 06, 2015, 09:37:40 AMAs I recall, Texas does have a population density discrimination at the county level as to which counties the 75 MPH zones are allowed in.

Not any more.  There was a density ceiling when 75 was first rolled out on two-lane roads that had the effect of restricting it to the tumbleweed counties in southwestern Texas.  There was also a requirement to carry out an engineering study before upzoning a two-lane road for 75.  I don't know if the latter provision is still in force, but the density ceiling was later lifted, so there are now two-lane roads signed for 75 throughout the state.

Current practice (judging from an October 2014 transit of US 54 in the Panhandle) is to sign for 75 with 70 buffer zones around built-up areas.
The density thing is for the 80mph limits on I-10 and I-20. There were no density restrictions when the default limit was raised from 70 to 75 in 2011.

Speed studies are required for any change to the limit on any state highway in Texas, except for temporary reductions due to construction, or recently, emergency reductions due to having higher crash volumes than the average for similar roads.


roadfro

#26
Nevada's 2-lane rural highways currently have a max of 70. This includes most US highways outside of towns, as well as several state routes.

Even with the recent increase in the state's max speed limit to 80, I do not believe there are any plans to increase limits on any 2-lane roads any time soon.
Roadfro - AARoads Pacific Southwest moderator since 2010, Nevada roadgeek since 1983.

kkt

Quote from: roadfro on July 06, 2015, 03:37:30 PM
Even with the recent increase in the state's max speed limit to 80, I do not believe there are any plans to increase limits on any 2-lane roads any time soon.

Yeah, but I bet they don't spend a whole lot of effort writing tickets to people going less than 20 over (in otherwise safe conditions) either...

corco

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Quote from: kkt on July 06, 2015, 04:10:57 PM
Quote from: roadfro on July 06, 2015, 03:37:30 PM
Even with the recent increase in the state's max speed limit to 80, I do not believe there are any plans to increase limits on any 2-lane roads any time soon.

Yeah, but I bet they don't spend a whole lot of effort writing tickets to people going less than 20 over (in otherwise safe conditions) either...

What? If I go 89 in a 70 in Nevada by a cop I will get a ticket 99.5% of the time. I'd say 5 over is tolerated, 10 over is possible but risky, anything more than that is insta-ticket. Your mileage may vary in Clark and Washoe Counties.

jakeroot

Quote from: SSOWorld on July 06, 2015, 06:24:04 AM
Eastern Oregon's on the docket for getting 70 mph on 2-lanes (on Governor's desk) but my suspicion is that if passed, ODOT will not comply.

I'm not aware of any two-lane highway in Oregon with a limit above 55 (though I don't spend a lot of time in Oregon). A 15 mph jump in one go has the same chances of being implemented as smoking in restaurants.

doorknob60

Quote from: jakeroot on July 06, 2015, 06:14:52 PM
Quote from: SSOWorld on July 06, 2015, 06:24:04 AM
Eastern Oregon's on the docket for getting 70 mph on 2-lanes (on Governor's desk) but my suspicion is that if passed, ODOT will not comply.

I'm not aware of any two-lane highway in Oregon with a limit above 55 (though I don't spend a lot of time in Oregon). A 15 mph jump in one go has the same chances of being implemented as smoking in restaurants.

You're correct about the current situation, nothing over 55 (though, some very remote ones like OR-78 have rare, or non existent posting of speed limits, though it's still technically 55).

Actually, it's looking pretty likely. The 70 is only for US-95 (and I-84) though. Other highways like US-20, 97, and 395 and a few others will only be 65.
http://www.ktvb.com/story/news/local/regional/2015/07/03/oregon-eastern-speed-limit-increase/29673201/
http://www.bendbulletin.com/home/3308297-151/rural-oregon-drivers-can-soon-drive-faster-

texaskdog

Quote from: ekt8750 on July 06, 2015, 02:39:18 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on July 06, 2015, 06:11:25 AM
NJ has a few 2 lane roads at 55.  You can probably count them with one hand, but they do exist.
70 through the Pine Barrens comes to mind.

Pine Barrens sound so cool.  Are they?

iBallasticwolf2

Only two things are infinite in this world, stupidity, and I-75 construction

jakeroot

Quote from: doorknob60 on July 06, 2015, 06:53:33 PM
Actually, it's looking pretty likely. The 70 is only for US-95 (and I-84) though. Other highways like US-20, 97, and 395 and a few others will only be 65.
http://www.ktvb.com/story/news/local/regional/2015/07/03/oregon-eastern-speed-limit-increase/29673201/
http://www.bendbulletin.com/home/3308297-151/rural-oregon-drivers-can-soon-drive-faster-

Hasn't the Oregon legislature always passed higher speed limits? In the past, it's been ODOT and their puppeteer Kitzhaber that continue to shoot it down.

Perhaps Kate Brown will approach the situation differently. Which she should. Though she worked for Kitzhaber so perhaps he influenced her. She should probably allow higher speed limits after a study has been conducted. Washington should begin posting 75-mph zones starting sometime next month after Inslee approved a study. The entire length of I-82 (minus through Yakima), plus the majority of I-5 and I-90 should see higher limits. US-395 as well.

Tarkus

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Quote from: jakeroot on July 06, 2015, 07:39:23 PM
Quote from: doorknob60 on July 06, 2015, 06:53:33 PM
Actually, it's looking pretty likely. The 70 is only for US-95 (and I-84) though. Other highways like US-20, 97, and 395 and a few others will only be 65.
http://www.ktvb.com/story/news/local/regional/2015/07/03/oregon-eastern-speed-limit-increase/29673201/
http://www.bendbulletin.com/home/3308297-151/rural-oregon-drivers-can-soon-drive-faster-

Hasn't the Oregon legislature always passed higher speed limits? In the past, it's been ODOT and their puppeteer Kitzhaber that continue to shoot it down.

Perhaps Kate Brown will approach the situation differently. Which she should. Though she worked for Kitzhaber so perhaps he influenced her. She should probably allow higher speed limits after a study has been conducted. Washington should begin posting 75-mph zones starting sometime next month after Inslee approved a study. The entire length of I-82 (minus through Yakima), plus the majority of I-5 and I-90 should see higher limits. US-395 as well.

HB 3402 has been absolutely gliding through both chambers.  It was a 52-5 vote in the House and a 22-6 vote in the Senate.  ODOT has publicly testified against it, in their traditional chicken crap fashion.  I have no idea whether or not Gov. Brown will sign it--she's kind of hard to read--but I really hope she will.  A lot of the people who voted for it have traditionally been against that sort of thing in the past.

Wishful thinking, but I'd love it if she'd clean house with some of the ODOT brass while she's at it.

jeffandnicole

Quote from: ekt8750 on July 06, 2015, 02:39:18 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on July 06, 2015, 06:11:25 AM
NJ has a few 2 lane roads at 55.  You can probably count them with one hand, but they do exist.
70 through the Pine Barrens comes to mind.

That's actually the newest addition to the 2 lane, 55 club in NJ.  They finally (thankfully) increased it from 50 several years ago.  72 and 539 are a few of the others.

Quote from: texaskdog on July 06, 2015, 06:57:38 PM
Quote from: ekt8750 on July 06, 2015, 02:39:18 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on July 06, 2015, 06:11:25 AM
NJ has a few 2 lane roads at 55.  You can probably count them with one hand, but they do exist.
70 through the Pine Barrens comes to mind.

Pine Barrens sound so cool.  Are they?

I guess if you like travelling thru heavily forested areas they are.  More cooler if you were to see the Jersey Devil!


ekt8750

Quote from: iBallasticwolf2 on July 06, 2015, 07:03:08 PM
Quote from: texaskdog on July 06, 2015, 06:57:38 PM
Quote from: ekt8750 on July 06, 2015, 02:39:18 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on July 06, 2015, 06:11:25 AM
NJ has a few 2 lane roads at 55.  You can probably count them with one hand, but they do exist.
70 through the Pine Barrens comes to mind.

Pine Barrens sound so cool.  Are they?

https://www.google.ca/maps/@39.948583,-74.489985,3a,15y,283.34h,88.5t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s2R1dbylEYhuz0efrIVM8GQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
That is a funny looking 70.

I meant NJ 70 sir. There is a pretty big 55 zone through the Pine Barrens.

iBallasticwolf2

Only two things are infinite in this world, stupidity, and I-75 construction

jeffandnicole

Quote from: iBallasticwolf2 on July 07, 2015, 03:06:56 PM
Quote from: ekt8750 on July 07, 2015, 02:54:21 PM
Quote from: iBallasticwolf2 on July 06, 2015, 07:03:08 PM
Quote from: texaskdog on July 06, 2015, 06:57:38 PM
Quote from: ekt8750 on July 06, 2015, 02:39:18 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on July 06, 2015, 06:11:25 AM
NJ has a few 2 lane roads at 55.  You can probably count them with one hand, but they do exist.
70 through the Pine Barrens comes to mind.

Pine Barrens sound so cool.  Are they?

https://www.google.ca/maps/@39.948583,-74.489985,3a,15y,283.34h,88.5t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s2R1dbylEYhuz0efrIVM8GQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
That is a funny looking 70.

I meant NJ 70 sir. There is a pretty big 55 zone through the Pine Barrens.

:ded:

I hadn't even looked at that link.  Though it was for some odd NJ 70 sign!

Like I mentioned, that was only 50 mph until relatively recently.  Still doesn't matter when you get some guy insisting on driving below the limit; it can be a long, boring ride stuck in a line of traffic.  Traffic is pretty heavy, even when it doesn't appear to be all that bad.

ekt8750

At least they let you pass in some areas. I go to Toms River sometimes and I always debate whether taking 70 or the ACE/GSP is faster given the time of day. Both options suck at night as far as not keeping from being bored goes.

odditude

Quote from: texaskdog on July 06, 2015, 06:57:38 PM
Quote from: ekt8750 on July 06, 2015, 02:39:18 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on July 06, 2015, 06:11:25 AM
NJ has a few 2 lane roads at 55.  You can probably count them with one hand, but they do exist.
70 through the Pine Barrens comes to mind.

Pine Barrens sound so cool.  Are they?
driving on 70 in a severe thunderstorm is surreal... i will never forget the view of lightning lancing across the sky seen through a veil of driving rain and pine branches.

on the other hand, getting stuck behind a sunday driver on 70 or 72 can be downright infuriating, especially when you're closer to Southampton (thank you, Leisuretowne).

texaskdog

Quote from: jeffandnicole on July 07, 2015, 08:09:36 AM
Quote from: ekt8750 on July 06, 2015, 02:39:18 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on July 06, 2015, 06:11:25 AM
NJ has a few 2 lane roads at 55.  You can probably count them with one hand, but they do exist.
70 through the Pine Barrens comes to mind.

That's actually the newest addition to the 2 lane, 55 club in NJ.  They finally (thankfully) increased it from 50 several years ago.  72 and 539 are a few of the others.

Quote from: texaskdog on July 06, 2015, 06:57:38 PM
Quote from: ekt8750 on July 06, 2015, 02:39:18 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on July 06, 2015, 06:11:25 AM
NJ has a few 2 lane roads at 55.  You can probably count them with one hand, but they do exist.
70 through the Pine Barrens comes to mind.

Pine Barrens sound so cool.  Are they?

I guess if you like travelling thru heavily forested areas they are.  More cooler if you were to see the Jersey Devil!



There's a hockey rink there too?  Cool!

ekt8750

Quote from: texaskdog on July 08, 2015, 02:30:22 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on July 07, 2015, 08:09:36 AM
Quote from: ekt8750 on July 06, 2015, 02:39:18 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on July 06, 2015, 06:11:25 AM
NJ has a few 2 lane roads at 55.  You can probably count them with one hand, but they do exist.
70 through the Pine Barrens comes to mind.

That's actually the newest addition to the 2 lane, 55 club in NJ.  They finally (thankfully) increased it from 50 several years ago.  72 and 539 are a few of the others.

Quote from: texaskdog on July 06, 2015, 06:57:38 PM
Quote from: ekt8750 on July 06, 2015, 02:39:18 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on July 06, 2015, 06:11:25 AM
NJ has a few 2 lane roads at 55.  You can probably count them with one hand, but they do exist.
70 through the Pine Barrens comes to mind.

Pine Barrens sound so cool.  Are they?

I guess if you like travelling thru heavily forested areas they are.  More cooler if you were to see the Jersey Devil!



There's a hockey rink there too?  Cool!

I'm pretty sure the actual Jersey Devil has no interest in being associated with that dumpster fire of a hockey team lol

okroads

ODOT (Oklahoma) just announced today a speed limit increase from 65 to 70 along a 185-mile section of U.S. 412 from Boise City to Woodward. This is the first 70 speed limit to be signed along a two-lane highway in the state. http://content.govdelivery.com/bulletins/gd/OKDOT-10e2885?wgt_ref=OKDOT_WIDGET_1

roadfro

Quote from: corco on July 06, 2015, 04:16:30 PM
Quote from: kkt on July 06, 2015, 04:10:57 PM
Quote from: roadfro on July 06, 2015, 03:37:30 PM
Even with the recent increase in the state's max speed limit to 80, I do not believe there are any plans to increase limits on any 2-lane roads any time soon.

Yeah, but I bet they don't spend a whole lot of effort writing tickets to people going less than 20 over (in otherwise safe conditions) either...

What? If I go 89 in a 70 in Nevada by a cop I will get a ticket 99.5% of the time. I'd say 5 over is tolerated, 10 over is possible but risky, anything more than that is insta-ticket. Your mileage may vary in Clark and Washoe Counties.

There is some leeway in the rural areas, but not a 20mph cushion unless you're just on a road that is scarcely patrolled by NHP or county sheriffs. (State law provides a maximum $25 fine for 5 over at certain speed limits, so there is some general leeway at minimal overages.)

The only ticket I have ever received in 15 years of having a driver's license was getting pulled over for speeding by an Esmeralda County sheriff. I was going 85 in a 70 zone on US 95 south several miles south of Goldfield, in daylight and otherwise safe conditions. (I probably was going a bit faster, but only got cited for 15 over–which is good because 16 or more over the speed limit constitutes an automatic double penalty in Nevada.) Since then, I've found that 5-8 over is generally a pretty safe range.
Roadfro - AARoads Pacific Southwest moderator since 2010, Nevada roadgeek since 1983.

sipes23

For a while in the mid 90s, Burlington Road* in Kane County, IL, was 65 between IL 47 and Burlington itself. I thought that was really odd given that virtually every other road in Illinois that wasn't the interstate away from Chicago was 55 or lower.

*Burlington Blacktop to the old-school locals. It's the only thing I ever heard it called growing up.



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