Bypasses of bypasses

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agentsteel53

Quote from: sr641 on May 08, 2012, 05:14:38 PM

I started a poll to see if louisville has 2 bypasses.

I noticed.
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sr641

Quote from: kphoger on May 08, 2012, 09:10:38 AM
Quote from: sr641 on May 08, 2012, 05:55:50 AM
Quote from: Steve on May 07, 2012, 09:10:33 PM
Quote from: sr641 on May 07, 2012, 11:39:04 AM
louisville has 2 bypassess

no it has two loopssess neither one is really a bypassess

ya they are bypasses

It has neither.  I used to make deliveries in Louisville all the time, and I know all the main roads in and out.  See the map below, and tell me which road is a bypass or a loop:
http://g.co/maps/epvfq

We are talking about Louisville, KY not Louisville, IL!
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kphoger

Quote from: sr641 on May 08, 2012, 05:27:19 PM
We are talking about Louisville, KY not Louisville, IL!

Forgive me.  My powers of telepathy have been a bit below par lately.

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sr641

louisville, ky has 2 bypassses
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PurdueBill

I was going to make a Louisville, Ohio reference but will let it slide.  (Louisville, Ohio is pronounced "Lewis-ville", not "Looey-ville", regardless of what you hear on TV sometimes by people unfamiliar with it.

Will the new routing of US 52 around the west side of Lafayette/West Lafayette qualify?  Sagamore Parkway (S, N, and W) once was "The Bypass" but now is every bit as congested as the streets through town, if not more so.  The new road (carrying 231 and 52) will bypass the area on the other side.

kphoger

Quote from: PurdueBill on May 08, 2012, 08:46:25 PM
I was going to make a Louisville, Ohio reference but will let it slide.

In point of fact, you did make a Louisville, Ohio, reference.  :pan:

Quote from: PurdueBill on May 08, 2012, 08:46:25 PM
(Louisville, Ohio is pronounced "Lewis-ville", not "Looey-ville", regardless of what you hear on TV sometimes by people unfamiliar with it.

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hbelkins

All of this Louisville talk is making me nauseous.
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kphoger

Saint Louis, MO:
I-55 from Sikeston (MO) to Chicago (IL)
Bypassed by I-255
Further bypassed by I-57

OK, now for a somewhat serious one.....
I-270 around northern Saint Louis is a bypass for Illinois-bound motorists.
Signs on I-70 coming in from the west indicate (or at least used to) that Illinois-bound traffic should use MO-370 instead.

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tdindy88

Quote from: PurdueBill on May 08, 2012, 08:46:25 PM
Will the new routing of US 52 around the west side of Lafayette/West Lafayette qualify?  Sagamore Parkway (S, N, and W) once was "The Bypass" but now is every bit as congested as the streets through town, if not more so.  The new road (carrying 231 and 52) will bypass the area on the other side.

I don't think so, to me it's just another bypass, albeit on another side of town. The US 231 bypass is a new bypass that isn't replacing a previous one. As for the Lafayette area, I would think of I-65 more of a bypass of a bypass, especially given that it replaced the US 52-US 41 route for Indy to Chicago traffic.

PurdueBill

Quote from: kphoger on May 08, 2012, 08:49:18 PM
Quote from: PurdueBill on May 08, 2012, 08:46:25 PM
I was going to make a Louisville, Ohio reference but will let it slide.

In point of fact, you did make a Louisville, Ohio, reference.  :pan:

Quote from: PurdueBill on May 08, 2012, 08:46:25 PM
(Louisville, Ohio is pronounced "Lewis-ville", not "Looey-ville", regardless of what you hear on TV sometimes by people unfamiliar with it.

Hooray!  Someone got it.  :P

Quote from: tdindy88 on May 08, 2012, 09:40:41 PM
Quote from: PurdueBill on May 08, 2012, 08:46:25 PM
Will the new routing of US 52 around the west side of Lafayette/West Lafayette qualify?  Sagamore Parkway (S, N, and W) once was "The Bypass" but now is every bit as congested as the streets through town, if not more so.  The new road (carrying 231 and 52) will bypass the area on the other side.

I don't think so, to me it's just another bypass, albeit on another side of town. The US 231 bypass is a new bypass that isn't replacing a previous one. As for the Lafayette area, I would think of I-65 more of a bypass of a bypass, especially given that it replaced the US 52-US 41 route for Indy to Chicago traffic.

Yeah, that's why I'm not sure if it fit the criteria of the thread.  The new road is more 231 than 52, with 52 sorta coming along for the ride.  What I find weird is how (an albeit small) part of the "new" 231 south of West Lafayette is already getting torn up to tie in to the western bypass; concrete that was probably built to last more than 50 years and is only 11 years old getting ripped out seems to suggest a lack of planning (or at least a change of plans--although 15 years ago around there I don't remember hearing about the western bypass as an idea even).

mukade

I'm do not believe it was lack of planning on the US 231 bypass. It seems to have moved along very fast from multiple alternative routes to construction in very few years. I don't believe it was seriously considered when the existing divided highway section was built. If it was not for Major Moves, it would certainly not be under construction now. The long range planning map does show the bypass continuing north from US 52 to I-65.

hbelkins

Quote from: kphoger on May 08, 2012, 08:56:51 PM
Signs on I-70 coming in from the west indicate (or at least used to) that Illinois-bound traffic should use MO-370 instead.

Signage on the outer loop of I-270 indicates that MO 370 is an alternate route to I-70 west to Kansas City.
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Quote from: kphoger on May 08, 2012, 08:49:18 PM
Quote from: PurdueBill on May 08, 2012, 08:46:25 PM
I was going to make a Louisville, Ohio reference but will let it slide.

In point of fact, you did make a Louisville, Ohio, reference.  :pan:

Quote from: PurdueBill on May 08, 2012, 08:46:25 PM
(Louisville, Ohio is pronounced "Lewis-ville", not "Looey-ville", regardless of what you hear on TV sometimes by people unfamiliar with it.

I live near Louisville, and PurdueBill is right. Moving on...

Here's one that some may not know: US-11 in Lexington, VA has a Super-2 bypass around the city (with a partial interchange at old US-11 and a diamond interchange at US-60). Now I-81 bypasses that.
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Michael

This past week, I was looking for the location of a railroad crossing in a YouTube video I had watched along US 22 in Lewistown, PA.  As I was zooming in, I noticed the business route, which looks like it curves away from an old alignment.  After looking at old topographic maps on Historic Aerials (too many to link here, use the search box on the site), I'm guessing that US 22 was first on Main St, then on the current business alignment along the river, then finally on the current Lewistown Bypass.

DandyDan

I believe Marshalltown, Iowa has one of those. US 30, when it was simply the Lincoln Highway, used to go right to downtown Marshalltown.  Later, they built the current business route on the south side of town and now they have the freeway even farther south.

Tama and Toledo, Iowa is similar. It used to go straight thru downtown Tama over the famous Lincoln Highway bridge. There then became the current business route and now there is a brief freeway section between Tama and Toledo. 

In Des Moines, Iowa, US 6 used to follow Grand Avenue straight through town. Later, it followed the current Euclid Avenue/Merle Hay/Hickman Road alignment. Then they built I-80, which completely bypasses Des Moines altogether.

I believe US 6 in Lincoln, NE is similar, but I don't offhand know what the original route of US 6 (or US 38 before that) through Lincoln was.  But Cornhusker Highway is clearly a much later highway, and I-80 even later than that.
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Roadsguy

Not sure if it was mentioned already, but in Dover, DE, current US 13 was a bypass of Dover, but that wasn't a freeway, and backed up from development along it. Then DE 1 was built, bypassing that, with a short connector from it to US 13 on the south side.
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US81

I think I have one: US 77 thru Waco.  I have (or have seen) maps that show it used to be a street currently called "Old Dallas Road" which was bypassed by the "New Dallas Hwy", the current Business 77.  US 77 itself is contiguous with I-35, bypassing the older US 77, now Business 77.

The former US 81 followed these same realignments (if I am reading my old maps correctly).

MBHockey13

Reidsville, NC - US-29 down Scales Ave became US-29 Business when the US-29 Freeway was built to the west. Then, that was bypassed by the new US-29 Bypass to the east, so the US-29 freeway became US-29 Business, and the first US-29 Business was decommissioned.

As read at the NCRoads Annex.

http://www.vahighways.com/ncannex/route-log/us29b.html

Michael

I just stumbled on one in Selinsgrove, PA.  Based on looking at various years on HistoricAerials, the original road was the current South Market Street. It looks like a one-way northbound bypass of the main road was added by 1951.  The 1957 topographic map indicates that the bypass became the main road for both directions.  The 1967 topographic map shows the road back on it's original alignment, and the bypass is shown as a secondary highway.  The current Selinsgrove Bypass opened in 1977.

sdmichael

Burbank, California has been bypassed twice times. The first was in 1950 along Front Street and Providencia St, where US 99 went around the CBD. In 1959, the current Golden State Freeway was built along a similar alignment to the 1950 bypass. Gorman and Castaic, also both along US 99, had similar histories.

Road Hog

Quote from: Perfxion on April 14, 2012, 03:18:57 PM
Houston, TX

Current road: US-90A(old US90) runs through downtown, down mains street through Medical Center, and out the south west side.
Current road: I-10/US-90, by passing Texas Medical Center
Current road: I-610, bypassing Houston circa 1950, downtown and all wards
Current road: Beltway 8/Sam Houston Tollway, bypassing what was then Houston all together(currently the city limits extend 5 to 10 miles outside the beltway)
Under constrction: Texas 99/Grand Parkway, bypassing Houston and Suburbs, but still inside the metro area.

Thats some Inception mess right htere.

Dallas is working on a similar thing.

You had the original U.S. highways serving the city, then you had Loop 12 as the original bypass. Then I-635 (LBJ) was built as a second bypass in conjunction with I-20 and the Mid-Cities freeways to the west. Last year, the George Bush Turnpike was completed around the north half of Dallas as the third bypass. Now plans are being worked on for another bypass that will connect I-35 north of Denton to I-30 somewhere around Royse City.

A quadruple bypass!

TheStranger

Here's one in the Middletown area in Louisville:

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Middletown,+Louisville,+KY&hl=en&ll=38.239057,-85.529423&spn=0.042538,0.075445&sll=38.204195,-85.535431&sspn=0.170235,0.301781&gl=us&hnear=Middletown,+Jefferson,+Kentucky&t=m&z=14

Old Shelbyville Road was the original US 60 through town, followed by the current Shelbyville Road on the north side.  Of course years later, I-64 bypassed both routings, but a mile to the south.
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bugo

That's just a simple relocation, not a bypass.