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Green Interstates - state or locally maintained?

Started by Pink Jazz, November 20, 2015, 12:16:54 PM

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Kacie Jane

Quote from: jakeroot on November 22, 2015, 01:32:52 AM
Quote from: Kacie Jane on November 21, 2015, 11:18:15 PM
Right, but still, just because Agency X (WSDOT in this case) is primarily responsible for the maintenance of a road, that doesn't mean that they're going to do 100% of the work on the road and won't let Agencies Y and Z do any work.

In particular, locally-designed street blades on state-maintained highways are something you can find pretty much anywhere.

So in relation to my original point, it is then possible that WSDOT does not 100% maintain I-90 Business within Moses Lake?
Here's how I would say it. If there are crosswalks or signals or whatever else that match other Moses Lake roads that are not state-maintained, then those were probably put in by Moses Lake. But that doesn't mean that the state doesn't maintain those state highways. It just means that the city helps out.

(In other words, where you're looking at it as a percentage, I'm looking at it as just a yes/no, where IMHO the answer is still yes.)

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Pink Jazz

Quote from: Kacie Jane on November 23, 2015, 02:22:59 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on November 22, 2015, 01:32:52 AM
Quote from: Kacie Jane on November 21, 2015, 11:18:15 PM
Right, but still, just because Agency X (WSDOT in this case) is primarily responsible for the maintenance of a road, that doesn't mean that they're going to do 100% of the work on the road and won't let Agencies Y and Z do any work.

In particular, locally-designed street blades on state-maintained highways are something you can find pretty much anywhere.

So in relation to my original point, it is then possible that WSDOT does not 100% maintain I-90 Business within Moses Lake?
Here's how I would say it. If there are crosswalks or signals or whatever else that match other Moses Lake roads that are not state-maintained, then those were probably put in by Moses Lake. But that doesn't mean that the state doesn't maintain those state highways. It just means that the city helps out.

(In other words, where you're looking at it as a percentage, I'm looking at it as just a yes/no, where IMHO the answer is still yes.)

SM-G920T

Here in the Phoenix area on Grand Avenue (US 60), ADOT-owned signals are mostly at major intersections, while signals at smaller intersections are mostly owned by local authorities.  Also, all signals on Grand within the City of Surprise are owned by the city.

ekt8750

Quote from: cl94 on November 21, 2015, 08:25:56 PM
Quote from: PHLBOS on November 20, 2015, 04:48:59 PM
In PA, any road with an SR number is state maintained.  That said, Business Loop I-83 and Business Loop I-376 are both state maintained.

Which is basically every road of semi-moderate importance outside of developed areas

That's what a large state with more rural areas than not and no county route system gets you. That said I don't think I'd want any of PA's counties maintaining roads (leaving Philly out of that).

andy3175

Quote from: corco on November 20, 2015, 11:22:06 PM
ID: State maintained

It seems like some of the Idaho business routes are being decommissioned as they shift from state to local maintenance. An example is the loop through Coeur d'Alene. I imagine there are others.

In my opinion, states should allow business loops and spurs to be maintained by the state or local agency. I'd prefer to see signage remain consistent, because a loop that existed five years ago probably still is a traversable, useable route through the city center that helps people from out of town to find their way through town. But I also recognize that local cities may desire less traffic, and perhaps the removal of a business loop or spur accomplishes that. Corco, do you know why Coeur d'Alene wanted to drop its business loop and remove signage?
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Mr_Northside

Quote from: ekt8750 on November 23, 2015, 05:24:16 PM
That's what a large state with more rural areas than not and no county route system gets you. That said I don't think I'd want any of PA's counties maintaining roads (leaving Philly out of that).

The Allegheny County maintained roads are usually in pretty good shape
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