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Started by Mr. Matté, April 05, 2013, 06:34:44 PM

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Pilgrimway

Quote from: _Simon on April 06, 2013, 01:09:39 PM
I-99 was chosen to match Bud Shuster's IQ

Wouldn't that be Interstate 4? Maybe Florida and Pennsylvania could do a swap.


roadman65

Quote from: Pilgrimway on April 13, 2013, 12:22:21 PM
Quote from: _Simon on April 06, 2013, 01:09:39 PM
I-99 was chosen to match Bud Shuster's IQ

Wouldn't that be Interstate 4? Maybe Florida and Pennsylvania could do a swap.
You know that would actually fit the grid better.  Even though it is west of I-95, it is not directly west of I-81.  Then again, you could make I-4, I-95 and I-95 south of Daytona I-99.

Interstate 4 runs diagonal and could be signed as a N-S routes.  Having I-4 in Pennsylvania would not look any more odd than I-99 already is.  Plus ole Buddy can sign its E-W demeanor into law so that an even number could be signed N-S.
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kphoger

Quote from: OCGuy81 on April 13, 2013, 01:53:32 AM
Now how about US-491?  It's significant because people wanted to be rid of the 666 designation, IIRC.

So it's sort of an anti-meaningful number.  What I remember from driving a portion of US-666 was seeing zero route shields except for one waaaay up on stoplight arm (out of reach, I assume).

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Quote from: roadman65 on April 13, 2013, 12:41:37 PM
Quote from: Pilgrimway on April 13, 2013, 12:22:21 PM
Quote from: _Simon on April 06, 2013, 01:09:39 PM
I-99 was chosen to match Bud Shuster's IQ

Wouldn't that be Interstate 4? Maybe Florida and Pennsylvania could do a swap.
You know that would actually fit the grid better.  Even though it is west of I-95, it is not directly west of I-81.  Then again, you could make I-4, I-95 and I-95 south of Daytona I-99.

Interstate 4 runs diagonal and could be signed as a N-S routes.  Having I-4 in Pennsylvania would not look any more odd than I-99 already is.  Plus ole Buddy can sign its E-W demeanor into law so that an even number could be signed N-S.
Renumbering I-4 and I-95 in Florida is a brilliant idea!
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US71

Quote from: kphoger on April 13, 2013, 01:43:02 PM
Quote from: OCGuy81 on April 13, 2013, 01:53:32 AM
Now how about US-491?  It's significant because people wanted to be rid of the 666 designation, IIRC.

So it's sort of an anti-meaningful number.  What I remember from driving a portion of US-666 was seeing zero route shields except for one waaaay up on stoplight arm (out of reach, I assume).

Everyone has them on their walls ;)
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huskeroadgeek

Quote from: lepidopteran on April 08, 2013, 10:03:05 PM
For a time, I-70 was significant to St. Louis, when Mark McGwire hit 70 home runs in one season, playing for the Cardinals.

Sometime after his 70 HR feat in 1998, the portion of I-70 in the city of St. Louis was named the "Mark McGwire Highway", but after his admission in 2010 to using steroids, the Missouri Legislature renamed it the "Mark Twain Highway"(pretty nice for them they only had to change one word).

Duke87

Quote from: huskeroadgeek on April 14, 2013, 04:22:35 PM
Quote from: lepidopteran on April 08, 2013, 10:03:05 PM
For a time, I-70 was significant to St. Louis, when Mark McGwire hit 70 home runs in one season, playing for the Cardinals.

Sometime after his 70 HR feat in 1998, the portion of I-70 in the city of St. Louis was named the "Mark McGwire Highway", but after his admission in 2010 to using steroids, the Missouri Legislature renamed it the "Mark Twain Highway"(pretty nice for them they only had to change one word).

This is why you don't name things after living people.


Anyways, for a more obscure example of the "connects this to that" variety, PA 652 connects US 6 to NY 52.
Okay, now are there any other examples of this sort of thing that involve two different states?
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hbelkins

Quote from: Duke87 on April 14, 2013, 11:54:15 PM
Anyways, for a more obscure example of the "connects this to that" variety, PA 652 connects US 6 to NY 52.
Okay, now are there any other examples of this sort of thing that involve two different states?

OH 852, which is the route that links US 52 to the Carl D. Perkins bridge across the Ohio River, which becomes Spur KY 8 and intersects KY 8.

There has to be some significance to OH-WV 527, which is the old routing of US 52 through downtown Huntington and ends at OH 7 just north of the Robert C. Byrd Bridge.
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roadman65

I was noticing that near Fort Worth, Texas that there is a TX 380 that was originally US 80.   Of course there are parts of US 50 in MO and MD that were numbered like that with an x50, but the fact that the route number TX 380 is not connected to its parent in designation like MD 450 is connected to its parent and the same in Missouri with its child state route.

Apparently, TxDOT did not forget the historic US 80 at that location and kept it alive sort of.  Part of its number still has significance obviously.
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Kacie Jane

Quote from: roadman65 on April 13, 2013, 12:41:37 PMYou know that would actually fit the grid better.  Even though it is west of I-95, it is not directly west of I-81.  Then again, you could make I-4, I-95 and I-95 south of Daytona I-99.

I agree it would fit the grid better.  But it's ironic that either of these new 99s would actually be about two degrees of longitude further west than the current 99.

US81

Quote from: roadman65 on April 24, 2013, 08:02:18 PM
I was noticing that near Fort Worth, Texas that there is a TX 380 that was originally US 80.   Of course there are parts of US 50 in MO and MD that were numbered like that with an x50, but the fact that the route number TX 380 is not connected to its parent in designation like MD 450 is connected to its parent and the same in Missouri with its child state route.

Apparently, TxDOT did not forget the historic US 80 at that location and kept it alive sort of.  Part of its number still has significance obviously.

TX 580? Or another route I'm not finding?

OCGuy81

QuoteQuote from: kphoger on April 13, 2013, 01:43:02 PM

    Quote from: OCGuy81 on April 13, 2013, 01:53:32 AM

        Now how about US-491?  It's significant because people wanted to be rid of the 666 designation, IIRC.


    So it's sort of an anti-meaningful number.  What I remember from driving a portion of US-666 was seeing zero route shields except for one waaaay up on stoplight arm (out of reach, I assume).


Everyone has them on their walls ;)

Same with any highway 69 (Interstate, state, US) I'm sure.  Probably why there hasn't ever been an I-420 as well.   :bigass:

sandwalk

Quote from: OCGuy81 on April 24, 2013, 11:57:05 PM
QuoteQuote from: kphoger on April 13, 2013, 01:43:02 PM

    Quote from: OCGuy81 on April 13, 2013, 01:53:32 AM

        Now how about US-491?  It's significant because people wanted to be rid of the 666 designation, IIRC.


    So it's sort of an anti-meaningful number.  What I remember from driving a portion of US-666 was seeing zero route shields except for one waaaay up on stoplight arm (out of reach, I assume).


Everyone has them on their walls ;)

Same with any highway 69 (Interstate, state, US) I'm sure.  Probably why there hasn't ever been an I-420 as well.   :bigass:

Close enough. Stony Ridge. LOL

Road Hog

Quote from: roadman65 on April 24, 2013, 08:02:18 PM
I was noticing that near Fort Worth, Texas that there is a TX 380 that was originally US 80.   Of course there are parts of US 50 in MO and MD that were numbered like that with an x50, but the fact that the route number TX 380 is not connected to its parent in designation like MD 450 is connected to its parent and the same in Missouri with its child state route.

Apparently, TxDOT did not forget the historic US 80 at that location and kept it alive sort of.  Part of its number still has significance obviously.

You're not thinking of US 380, are you?

Brandon

Quote from: sandwalk on April 25, 2013, 12:38:25 AM
Close enough. Stony Ridge. LOL


However, in this case, the "420" refers to it being a branch off US-20.  It can be mildly amusing as is the Richard I. Bong Recreation Area in SE Wisconsin.
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Big John

Quote from: OCGuy81 on April 24, 2013, 11:57:05 PM
Probably why there hasn't ever been an I-420 as well.   :bigass:
There was one planned for Atlanta, but it was never completed, so it is now a state highway, GA 166

InterstateNG

Quote from: Road Hog on April 25, 2013, 09:23:53 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on April 24, 2013, 08:02:18 PM
I was noticing that near Fort Worth, Texas that there is a TX 380 that was originally US 80.   Of course there are parts of US 50 in MO and MD that were numbered like that with an x50, but the fact that the route number TX 380 is not connected to its parent in designation like MD 450 is connected to its parent and the same in Missouri with its child state route.

Apparently, TxDOT did not forget the historic US 80 at that location and kept it alive sort of.  Part of its number still has significance obviously.

You're not thinking of US 380, are you?

Who knows with roadman65.  But the only 380's in Texas are the aforementioned US route and a spur down in Beaumont.
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mgk920

WI 441 is a beltline freeway from US 41.  I am anticipating that it will likely become a full interstate once its currently planned upgrades in Winnebago County, WI are complete in a few years.

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OCGuy81

QuoteRichard I. Bong Recreation Area in SE Wisconsin.

Been there, seen that, and it is a place where I'm sure many a college kid has stopped for a picture....myself included.

This is still a favorite of mine as well, though I'm probably venturing off topic a bit, apologies admins.


Alps

Quote from: OCGuy81 on April 26, 2013, 12:10:22 AM
QuoteRichard I. Bong Recreation Area in SE Wisconsin.

Been there, seen that, and it is a place where I'm sure many a college kid has stopped for a picture....myself included.

This is still a favorite of mine as well, though I'm probably venturing off topic a bit, apologies admins.


Doesn't this belong in the Photoshopped photos thread?

US81

Quote from: InterstateNG on April 25, 2013, 10:19:02 AM
Quote from: Road Hog on April 25, 2013, 09:23:53 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on April 24, 2013, 08:02:18 PM
I was noticing that near Fort Worth, Texas that there is a TX 380 that was originally US 80.   Of course there are parts of US 50 in MO and MD that were numbered like that with an x50, but the fact that the route number TX 380 is not connected to its parent in designation like MD 450 is connected to its parent and the same in Missouri with its child state route.

Apparently, TxDOT did not forget the historic US 80 at that location and kept it alive sort of.  Part of its number still has significance obviously.

You're not thinking of US 380, are you?

Who knows with roadman65.  But the only 380's in Texas are the aforementioned US route and a spur down in Beaumont.

I'm wondering if roadman65 means TX 580 in southwest Ft W, which runs from US 377 just north of the traffic circle west to where it meets I-30.  I remember having driven on it as US 80 before the decommissioning. 

Brandon

Quote from: Steve on April 27, 2013, 03:21:03 AM
Quote from: OCGuy81 on April 26, 2013, 12:10:22 AM
QuoteRichard I. Bong Recreation Area in SE Wisconsin.

Been there, seen that, and it is a place where I'm sure many a college kid has stopped for a picture....myself included.

This is still a favorite of mine as well, though I'm probably venturing off topic a bit, apologies admins.


Doesn't this belong in the Photoshopped photos thread?

No.  IIRC, it is real, but may have been replaced.  Here's some Google Street Views off I-5:

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=41.418691,-122.374306&spn=0.024619,0.038581&t=m&z=15&layer=c&cbll=41.418785,-122.382609&panoid=6qTnEBjZQ6BTpN84eLHxnQ&cbp=12,327.02,,0,9.84

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=41.417967,-122.383811&spn=0.012374,0.01929&t=h&z=16&layer=c&cbll=41.417912,-122.383868&panoid=iLgIPykrrugxGIWNe_-lJQ&cbp=12,142.56,,0,8.51

Older sign still at the interchange:
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=41.417436,-122.384198&spn=0.012374,0.01929&t=h&z=16&layer=c&cbll=41.41753,-122.384159&panoid=cAJLQoqcRoyT_LkQpuFa-w&cbp=12,236.96,,1,2.2

I know the Bong Recreation Area one was replaced in the 2000s.  When I was going to college, it read "Bong Rec Area".  I have the photo around here somewhere.
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woodpusher

Probably just a coincidence...Interstate 270 into Washington DC....it takes 270 EV's to get to the White House.

vtk

Quote from: woodpusher on July 15, 2013, 11:10:58 PM
Probably just a coincidence...Interstate 270 into Washington DC....it takes 270 EV's to get to the White House.

With Ohio being a bellweather for national presidential elections, and Columbus as a microcosm for Ohio, our I-270 is also symbolic for 270 electoral votes. In 2012, mayor Coleman called Columbus "the 270 solution" for Obama, and indeed it was Ohio's results announcement that put Obama over 270.
Wait, it's all Ohio? Always has been.



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