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Which candidate is better for highway improvements?

Started by Plutonic Panda, October 04, 2016, 10:38:47 PM

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Plutonic Panda

Which candidate has shown that they "plan" on increasing the funding for new highway and road improvements more so than other? Clinton or Trump?


corco

Both have expressed a need to spend more on infrastructure with no specifics on how to do so or fund it.

NE2

Johnson. If you like toll roads that only take bitcoin.
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Plutonic Panda

I'm curious as to which one. I won't be voting in this election as I don't really know which one would be better, but I also have been focusing more on myself than the future of this country. Perhaps it is selfish, but I haven't been paying attention at all. I just know Hilary Clinton is Bill Clinton's wife and Donald Trump wants to build a wall. Who is Johnson? ;)

hotdogPi

Quote from: Plutonic Panda on October 05, 2016, 03:28:49 AM
I'm curious as to which one. I won't be voting in this election as I don't really know which one would be better, but I also have been focusing more on myself than the future of this country. Perhaps it is selfish, but I haven't been paying attention at all. I just know Hilary Clinton is Bill Clinton's wife and Donald Trump wants to build a wall. Who is Johnson? ;)

Johnson is basically a protest vote for people who don't like either Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump.
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kkt

Like so many issues, it's not who's president that matters, it's Congress.

jeffandnicole

Quote from: 1 on October 05, 2016, 05:05:07 AM
Quote from: Plutonic Panda on October 05, 2016, 03:28:49 AM
I'm curious as to which one. I won't be voting in this election as I don't really know which one would be better, but I also have been focusing more on myself than the future of this country. Perhaps it is selfish, but I haven't been paying attention at all. I just know Hilary Clinton is Bill Clinton's wife and Donald Trump wants to build a wall. Who is Johnson? ;)

Johnson is basically a protest vote for people who don't like either Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump.

So, about 110% of the living and dead voters will be voting for Johnson then, right?

bmorrill

Quote from: jeffandnicole on October 05, 2016, 09:55:51 AM


Johnson is basically a protest vote for people who don't like either Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump.

So, about 110% of the living and dead voters will be voting for Johnson then, right?
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I think you've nailed it.

Buffaboy

What's not to like about highways and bridges, intersections and interchanges, rails and planes?

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Rothman

Quote from: Buffaboy on October 05, 2016, 11:19:59 AM
The one who lost against Hillary.

How do you figure with the lack of specifics of a plan on either side?
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Buffaboy

Quote from: Rothman on October 05, 2016, 11:20:53 AM
Quote from: Buffaboy on October 05, 2016, 11:19:59 AM
The one who lost against Hillary.

How do you figure with the lack of specifics of a plan on either side?

I meant in the primaries. Still, a $1 trillion investment over 5 years could be a boon to the nation's infrastructure. So many projects and repairs could move forward. It's mind boggling that we spend over $500 billion on the military every year.
What's not to like about highways and bridges, intersections and interchanges, rails and planes?

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Avalanchez71

If using the mindset that government creates jobs then why doesn't militray spending also create jobs?  Military spending does spur creation and innovation in the private sector.  Just look at Huntsville, AL.

epzik8

Gee, man, I don't even know. Truth be told, I don't like Trump and I'm not a fan of Hillary either. I don't like Gary Johnson, Jill Stein or whoever else may be running on a third-party ticket either. Nobody 2016!!!
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Avalanchez71

Think of the picture in pieces and not the big picture.  The president is the chief executive of the Executive branch of the government.  The president will make appointments to the Sureme Court.

Much of the rheotric that you hear on TV and radio has more to do with Congress than it does the president.

PHLBOS

Quote from: Avalanchez71 on October 05, 2016, 04:05:26 PM
Think of the picture in pieces and not the big picture.  The president is the chief executive of the Executive branch of the government.  The president will make appointments to the Sureme Court.
However, that appointed nominee (for any federal judge not just a Supreme Court Justice) needs to be confirmed by the US Senate.

So the 3 branches of government (Executive-Legislative-Judicial) are indeed connected.
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jakeroot

Here in Washington State, both the Democrats and Republicans are into funding new roads, bridges, freeways, HSR, etc. The differences are in the details: For example, WA Republicans oppose express lane tolling, while WA Democrats support it (both, however, support the additional lanes to ease congestion).

I suspect any vote, for any of the three leading parties, is a vote for infrastructure improvements.

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I really don't think it matters too much. It's more about how high of a priority it is at the state level than the federal level. In Texas it's a priority and they have great roads. Other states have horrible roads and it's clear that they have other priorities.
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hobsini2

Quote from: kkt on October 05, 2016, 09:48:37 AM
Like so many issues, it's not who's president that matters, it's Congress.

Bingo

And the last 6 years of Republican control of Congress has had a number of stalled or no votes for highway infrastructure projects in the name of "fiscal responsibility". Load of crap IMO if you look at the military budget and compare.
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Quote from: epzik8 on October 05, 2016, 03:40:27 PM
Gee, man, I don't even know. Truth be told, I don't like Trump and I'm not a fan of Hillary either. I don't like Gary Johnson, Jill Stein or whoever else may be running on a third-party ticket either. Nobody 2016!!!
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nexus73

Vote the Hitler/Mussolini ticket for autobahns and autostrada...LOL!

All Stalin will give you are dirt roads that turn to mud every spring and fall.

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kkt

Quote from: nexus73 on October 05, 2016, 07:25:09 PM
Vote the Hitler/Mussolini ticket for autobahns and autostrada...LOL!

All Stalin will give you are dirt roads that turn to mud every spring and fall.

Rick

Stalin was a bright guy.  If they'd built good roads before June of 1941, the Germans would have used them to take Moscow.

Pink Jazz

Quote from: jakeroot on October 05, 2016, 04:40:48 PM
Here in Washington State, both the Democrats and Republicans are into funding new roads, bridges, freeways, HSR, etc. The differences are in the details: For example, WA Republicans oppose express lane tolling, while WA Democrats support it (both, however, support the additional lanes to ease congestion).

I suspect any vote, for any of the three leading parties, is a vote for infrastructure improvements.

In Virginia it seems to be the opposite; Republicans seem to be in support of tolls while Democrats seem to be against them.

1995hoo

Quote from: Pink Jazz on October 05, 2016, 07:55:02 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on October 05, 2016, 04:40:48 PM
Here in Washington State, both the Democrats and Republicans are into funding new roads, bridges, freeways, HSR, etc. The differences are in the details: For example, WA Republicans oppose express lane tolling, while WA Democrats support it (both, however, support the additional lanes to ease congestion).

I suspect any vote, for any of the three leading parties, is a vote for infrastructure improvements.

In Virginia it seems to be the opposite; Republicans seem to be in support of tolls while Democrats seem to be against them.

Except it's been Democrat governors who got the ball rolling on the HO/T projects.
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Duke87

Quote from: Avalanchez71 on October 05, 2016, 03:19:36 PM
If using the mindset that government creates jobs then why doesn't militray spending also create jobs?  Military spending does spur creation and innovation in the private sector.  Just look at Huntsville, AL.

Spending money on weapons creates jobs to design and build weapons, which then serve little purpose other than blowing things up in other parts of the world.

Spending money on infrastructure creates jobs to design and build infrastructure, which then provides mobility and transportation capacity for decades afterward, allowing the economy to grow long term.

Methinks the latter is a better return on investment.
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plain

I don't think there's been a candidate that's really serious about our highway system since Eisenhower himself
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