Oak Brook makes offer to avoid red light cameras near Oakbrook Center mall

[kphoger]

What about where you need to stop after the line to be able to see if you can make a safe light on red?  The they removed near / on Woodfield Rd? was like that.

I'm pretty sure there is no legally approved "place to stop after the line."  Legally, if you can't see well enough from behind the line to safely turn right, then you should not make the turn till your light turns green or the obstruction is no longer there.  Correct me if I'm wrong.

[kalvado]

What about where you need to stop after the line to be able to see if you can make a safe light on red?  The they removed near / on Woodfield Rd? was like that.

I'm pretty sure there is no legally approved "place to stop after the line."  Legally, if you can't see well enough from behind the line to safely turn right, then you should not make the turn till your light turns green or the obstruction is no longer there.  Correct me if I'm wrong.

I had an impression it was "stop before stop line, count to 3, roll forward to where you can see, count to 3.."
Since NY assumes crosswalk at each intersection, you need to stop before crosswalk - and if nobody is actually walking, then...

[kphoger]

Really. The law says count to three?